Mention It All - Ezra Sosa Tells All on DWTS Cast & Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Ft. Ezra Sosa

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

On this today's episode, Dylan is joined by Dancing With The Stars pro Ezra Sosa, who tells all about DWTS casting, ballroom chaos, and teaching a Secret Lives of Mormon Wives star how to dance. From being paired with Anna Delvey on his first season to growing up gay and Mormon, he came ready to gossip. Plus, they also get into the lasting legacy of Dance Moms, the politics of professional ballroom, and being a back up dancer on RuPaul’s Drag Race. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone, welcome back to the Mentioned at All podcast. I am excited today to be joined by a little bit of a different reality TV personality than we usually talk to. He is a pro on dancing with the stars, among other things. Ezra Sosa, welcome to the show. I'm like, hey. I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm not a housewife. Hey. How y'all doing?

How y'all do it? I like shake my ass in different ways. You like, you watch and like critique some of the moves you see because it's like, Oh, all the time. I mean, I'm a gay-ass man. Of course, I'm critiquing every dance we by I see. Oh, my God. How are you doing? What are you up to these days? What am I up? I'm just living my life. I don't know. Like, such a loaded question. I'm like, what are you up to these days? Got in, uh, got in my flight yesterday in New York, but mostly just spending most of my time right now, getting ready for next season. Getting ready for next season. Very exciting. Do we know a few people

who are going to be on this season. Yeah. Well, you might know more. than a few people. I do know more people, but I'm not... I'm not trying to get you, like, disappeared by big, uh, big ballroom. I mean, that's what it's yours. Um, no, so this season so far, it's Alex Earle. Correct. Uh, our Mormon wives ladies. Yes, Jen and Whitney. Yes. And Robert Irwin. Mm-hmm.

Sexy Australian hunk. Yeah, I fear the cast is already stacked. Like, it's been... I like what they've started. I feel like it used to be like we wouldn't know anyone. and then they would announce it all at once. And they've started like, oh, like, here, you can have a name now. Oh, here, the Mormon wives. Like, you can find out, like, they're sort of, like, giving us little tidbits more than they used to, I think. I definitely feel their strategy this year is to just drop celebs.

But if you notice, they're dropping celebs that are really hot in that moment. Yeah. So Robert Irwin had his Bond's underwear, like, hot-ass sexy moment. And the next thing, you know, dancing with the stars. Right. I feel like Alex Earle, like Alex Earle, she's just that girl. so announcing her was just very obvious. Yeah, and the Mormon wives they did,

I think like when their reunion came out, it was like, oh, by the way. Yeah. Well, it's crazy to me because Jen just had a baby like two weeks ago. Yeah. And now she's going to be in the ballroom. Okay, fuck it. I'm going to say it.

I taught Jen how to dance on secret lives of Mormon wives. So we were on tour in Utah. Yeah. And she reached out to me. And I didn't know, because I haven't seen season two at the time. Okay. No one's seen season two at the time. Right.

But when she reached out, she said, I'm not, I haven't really been filming, but I really just want to get in the studio with you and like the camera people will just come and like, slay. I'm like, work. And they filmed it. And I just remember how much you wanted to be on the show. Also, at the time, she was preggers, like, preggers. Yeah. But she got through a whole lesson.

She crushed it. I don't know if they're going to air it or not, but I saw my shoulder in the trailer, so I'm sure. Like, I'm sure. Like, I have to be in it. You're like, the footage exists. The footage exists. So I'm sure it's in it. So I remember just getting to work with her in that and really just hearing her and her like dream to be on the show.

I was rooting for her. So I'm really happy that she's going to be on the show this year. Interesting. I feel like something shifted a few years ago where like people will like openly talk about having it on the vision board of like, yeah, I want to do dancing with the stars. That's like the coolest thing like on Vanderpomperil is like her number one goal in life. Bless her whole. Dancing with stars. Bless her heart.

Like literally bless her heart. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, I feel bad for her. I hope she does it. And you were like already on the show when Ariana was there. Yeah, correct. Ariana season, I actually wasn't asked back that season. Okay.

But they brought me back because a pro at the time, Ardum had COVID. And that's when I danced with Cherry Lawson. That was my first time ever being a pro. Okay. So I was devastated because the season before I was on Troop. And if you don't know what Troop is, troop means professional dancer but in training. So I'm doing all the background work.

I'm just basically in every single room, basically just training to be a pro one day. The hard part about troop is you're never guaranteed a pro. Right. So that's why you see people be on troop, but you never really see them again. I was lucky enough to be on troop. Got to fill in for one week. And that was basically in my audition to be a pro. That must be so stressful when you know you, like, you have this like one shot and you might not get another chance to like do the dance on the show.

Yeah. You're like, okay, wait, now I need to, like, kind of, like, extra crush this. Don't get me wrong. I was shit in bricks. Like, I was definitely, like, shit in my pants every single day. But weird enough, that whole process, especially with charity, I never doubted myself once. And I'm, like, I'm a Scorpio. So, like, the doubt is real.

Like, I have so much insecurities and whatnot. But I just remember that week feeling so secure in what I did and, like, teaching her. Mm-hmm. It just felt like the right. It just felt like I was in the right place. And I definitely felt after that experience I had with her, I was going to be a pro full-time. Yeah. And so last season was your first time, full-time being a pro?

Yes. Famously paired with Anna Delvey. Who's that? What is the process? Like, how long before the season starts do you find out, like, who you might be paired with? Is there, like, a process of, do you get any say in it? Like, what's the kind of, how does that work? So they gave you so much time to really like prepare.

They told me a week before I started. And I was already actually working in New York on a current job. Okay. And I was convinced I was not going to be on the season because I knew the season before I was an assback. Right. I filled in for a week. But then I found out next year that it was going to be even harder to be a pro. I won't get into into why, but there was a whole thing with production.

They were like, we're not going to have as many pros this season. Luckily, a majority of us came back. back. I'm not really sure how that went down. But I thought for sure I wasn't going to be. Yeah. I wasn't going to be there. So I took on a job in New York and that's when I got the call. I was like, oh my God, I couldn't believe it was happening. And I remember the casting director being like, are you okay? Because I was seriously in a state of shock to happen. And then she was like, you're, I remember in the call too. She was like, you're so patient and you're so kind. And you're so patient. And you're so kind.

I'm like, fuck, who do I have? I'm like, fuck. And she was right. I am patient and kind. She's very right. And those skills were? Yeah, I was like, and I was. Period.

So then like after that season, obviously you, you didn't make it to the end of the season. Yeah. What is it? Like, was it kind of you, that was your first experience being the full-time pro. And then you don't make it to the end. You're kind of like, wait, that was so fast. Yeah, I thought I was getting fired. I thought I was going to come back.

I feel like though, because I like watching Dancing with the Stars, but I don't always keep up with the season the whole time. And I feel like last season, I was like, oh, people are like, people are liking Ezra beyond just like the couple of dances he got to do on the show. So what was it like for you kind of getting that reception your first season, even though maybe the competition didn't go the way you hoped it would? I definitely feel as a pro, I have a different perspective on the show. because I say if you win like winning the season isn't necessarily winning the mirror ball

for instance you have seasons where I mean look at like Jojo Siwa she didn't win her season but you think Jojo Siwa like who beat her like she had such an iconic season I definitely feel like Alona was a huge one last season

who like had such a triumphant moment maybe didn't win a mirror ball but you know three years to come you're going to remember that she did the show Yeah. So I knew when I was paired with Anna, we weren't going to make it far, but I knew I could have a win in my book if I played my cards right. Getting eliminated first was hard.

It was because truthfully, I didn't expect for her and I to go home first. I thought for sure we were going to last a couple more weeks, especially because, I mean, I knew people didn't like her, but I knew people actually loved her. There was a lot of people out there that were seriously supporting her. So getting eliminated first was very jarring, especially as your first season, thought I was going to get fired like no cap. But the blessing behind it was her giving me kind of a spotlight. And I really took with that and I ran.

I was like eliminated pros. Okay, let's film TikToks. And me being chronically online also helped too. Well, I feel like it kind of was like you had like the moment on the show and like obviously people have their own thoughts about her. But then it's like you kind of get that moment and people are like, wait, who's this like new young? Who's this, Diva? I'm like, that's me, bitch. You are like the first pro to be born in the 2000s, I think?

Like the youngest. No, Riley. Riley? Riley's like young. She's like five years younger than me. She's not five years. Yeah, she just turned 20. And I'm going to turn 25 this year.

That's crazy. Yeah. She's a young and. But one thing I love about Riley is she does, like you, you're a surprise. She doesn't show her age. She's really mature. Even her first season as a pro, she was fresh 18. Could you imagine like graduating high school

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Like, you're on so you think you can dance. Correct. So, like, what was it, like, for you kind of stepping into the arena with, like, these people that are, I mean, they're famous, even outside of the dance. world, but it's like, I imagine that was kind of, I don't know, intimidating. So I grew up at the same studio that a lot of the pros came from. I don't know if you know, but a lot of the pros are from Utah. Yeah. And they all. I know like the Huff dynasty. Yes. I'm like, I'm like living. I'm like, yes. I love, I love the whole war, especially because you have two, you have two Mormon wives that are going on to the show. Yes.

And we have a lot of Mormon pros. So we're going to see how that goes down. I'm very interested to see. I'm interested to see that. But wait, what was your question? I VATD. Like when you first kind of joined the show being with these like people that you've seen on TV that have that reputation. Like what was that like for you being so young and kind of fresh to the show? So like back to what I was saying. I came to the, I went to the same studio as a lot of them. So as a kid, you're already idolizing them because their pictures are on the wall. I was a kid when Jenna Johnson, it was her senior year in high school.

When I remember like seeing her senior, I remember seeing her solo. I'm like, oh my God, I love Jenna. So seeing their trajectory, I definitely feel like they kind of. paved away for the younger generation. And I just kind of walked in that path to get on the show. What is it like for you being from Utah watching reality TV set in Utah? Because now Salt Lake City Housewives is such a huge thing. Mormon Wives is such a huge thing.

How is that for you? I watch it and I'm like, just reminds me of home. I love it. I love it so much. You're like, I recognize that specific brand of bullshit. I'm like, I know this behavior. No, honestly, I live for it. Yeah.

And I feel like a lot of people in, I mean, I grew up in Utah. I don't live there anymore. But a lot of people currently in the Utah community, like, do not like how the show is representing Mormon culture or Utah culture. I feel separated from that, but I live for it. I'm like living for these shows, especially secret lives and Mormon wives. Yeah. When it was first announced, I feel like some people were kind of like, but we already have housewives of Salt Lake City. how much more could there possibly be.

And it's like, oh, no, this is a completely different. Yeah. It's a completely different world. Yes, I agree with you. 100%. It's like we have the park city, the, you know, the fur coats and everything. Like, we need the girls who are like having a barbecue. Yes.

Yes. I'm so glad that you say that because I feel like a lot of people compare the two shows. Yeah. But in my eyes, they feel different. I feel like one's very like social media heavy and one's a little bit more. like integrated with reality TV. But I agree with you. Yeah, the,

the Mormon wives thing of like the way that their social media followings and careers and whatever are like... Integrated in the show. The topic of conversation a lot of the time and how they're making decisions and who's close with each other. It's like, are we making TikToks anymore? Like, it does feel like uniquely like 2025 in a way that it's like, oh yeah, that's like a real thing.

And as a creator, it's refreshing to see them filming them, like, making TikToks. And really think about it. They wouldn't have that show if they didn't have their TikTok following or that whole lore behind the swinging scandal with TikTok. Yeah, it's like the housewives shows are almost kind of the other way. 100%. You get cast on the show and the show becomes a thing. And then maybe a couple of those people kind of like really break out on social media.

But like there's plenty of housewives and people on Bravo that like, barely pay attention to what's happening on social media. And I love, I love that so much. Especially people like... Time and place. No, like time and place. The difference between like a Jen Affleck and like, Fager Parks is like so different.

Oh my God. Yeah. Like if Fadra was making TikToks every day, like there would be a something that felt off. Yeah. I would be like, are you okay, girl? I'm like, do you get new PR? I'm like, what's happening? There's something about like when, when like, Nini Leaks pops up.

into TikTok, you're like, wait, what? Like, does a double take? She doesn't really belong here. This is something new and different. Yeah. What is your, going back, like, what was your kind of reality TV origin story? Like, what were you watching? Dance moms.

Dance moms. Like, I mean, that's my guilty pleasure. And I hate how those girls were treated on the show because I'm close to a lot of them. Okay. But it's so unfortunate because it was really good TV. It was such good TV. I loved it. And especially as a kid.

who did dance, it was a whole lore. I'm like, Abby Lee dance competition, because I was very much in the same role that just wasn't on the show. So I was very tempted in in the dance moms. Dance moms is one of those things. Like, if I feel like every few months, it has like another moment on social media.

Yeah, it's like never going to not be relevant. It's like, it will never die. And some of, you know, some of the sounds and the quotes and the, the dances, I think that's part of what made it so iconic is that like, yeah, the moms are fighting. Yeah, there's drama in rehearsal, but then you watch the dances and you're like, oh, this is bad shit crazy.

Yeah. No, it is bad shit crazy. And that's why I live for it. Did you watch that they did a dance mom's reboot last year with like a new, a new teacher, a new studio, everything? I didn't watch it. I wasn't living. I'm like, if Abby Lee is not there, I'm not there.

Okay, I watched it. I feel like I might be the only person that watched it. I fear you were. It was like, I thought, I thought it was going to be like, okay, we've, learned our lesson. It's going to be about like nurturing young talent. And like, you know, we're going to keep, you know, the moms are going to be, you know, healthy parenting, gentle, whatever.

I was like, oh no, we've, it's the exact same. I wish I saw more healthy parenting, especially in that dance kind of world because it is very toxic behavior. It's just like it's so high stakes. It is. For kids that are so young. For like a first place ribbon. Come on, girl.

Come on. It's not that deep. It really isn't. How did you first get involved in dance? Were you from like a dancing family? I know your sister. My sister actually started dancing. And we're like 15, 14 months apart.

Okay. So we're really close in age. Yeah. Growing up, we were like so close. She's still like my best friend. Love my sister. So when she gone to dance, I just wanted to be with her. She went to dance school.

actually didn't accept boys. Oh, I know. I'm like, what? I was like, but weirdly enough, growing up in Utah, there was only select studios that actually accepted boys. Interesting.

Which, looking back, I'm like, that is terrible. It's so bad. So we moved into a studio called Center Stage. We just luckily went to the right place and that's where notoriously all these professional dancers have come from.

I started in ballet and at the time, my director, Kim Del Grosso, she was like, do you want to do ballroom? And I was like, I saw ballroom and I just saw guys dancing with girls. And I was like, I don't know. Like, I don't know if I can dance with the girl.

Like at the time, like I didn't know it was gay, but I think that was a clear sign. I was like, I just don't want to dance with the girl. You're like, we're so close. Like, it's like really close. Like cooties. Like I don't know. But I got into it. And one thing about especially ballroom that at the time growing in Utah, I didn't

really see was the culture behind ballroom dancing. and especially me being Latin and Hispanic, I really connected it in that sense. But I gone to Latin and then really just fell in love with it. Yeah, I think something that dancing with the stars may be like, it reinforced or made it more of a thing that like ballroom dancing can, it sounds so like traditional and like old fashion. Like, oh, it's like, oh, you're like dancing, like who dances a fox trot?

But then you watch the show and it's like you can do so much with these. Yes, he can. classic techniques and styles and things. And I feel like that it's like seeing somebody like you who's like young and energetic and whatever. It's like, yeah, like that's you can bring so much more to like just a classic style. Yeah, I 100% agree with you. I definitely feel like even compared to the other male pros, I am a completely different energy. I think as a dancer, as a personality, even choreography-wise, I feel at especially from the male perspective, I've had very very, very,

various different trainings and various different mentors from different aspects of the industry. So a lot of these male pros have only trained in ballroom. I've trained in ballroom. I've also toured with artists. I've done, I've worked with so many reputable choreographers. Yeah. Where I definitely feels like just gives me a different eye just on choreography. Yeah.

And I think with like on the show specifically, it's like you have not very much time to really make an impact. Oh girl, you're always against the clock. Yeah, and it's like the dances have to be short. You have to teach them really quickly. You have to like catch people's attention. Like if you want, if you want to do well on the show, you can't just go out there with like the same boring whatever that people have seen a hundred times. And so there really is that like incentive to get creative and to give people something they haven't seen before. Right. Good sleep is everything. That's why Ali's science back support is made with a blend of melatonin and Lthianine for both kiddos and grownups. So when your mind won't switch. off, you've got something that can help. Erasing thoughts and restless nights won't stand a chance. Find Ollie Sleep Solutions for the whole family

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when you think about like next season or future seasons? It's like, oh, I want to do a Pasadoplau, where we're dressed like this. Yes. I mean, if you ever see me with headphones on, I am just dreaming of something that I get to do on the show. And the fact that I even get,

as a kid, I always did it. I just listen to music, but this would be a good pause. So, like, we can start here. Like, I was doing it ever since I was, like, 15, 16. So the fact that I'm, like, when I became a pro and they're sending music, I'm listening to it, and I'm envisioning it, I'm like, this is my dream and I'm actually getting to do it. So it's really exciting, especially going into next season, just thinking of the things I could do. But ultimately, it depends on who you have.

Right. Because if you're dancing with somebody who's, like, 50 years old and has never danced before, versus like JoJo Siwa. Yeah. There's a difference there. There's a difference there. Or like the difference between Jojo Siwa and a convicted felon.

There is a difference. Tonally, quite graphically. You never know. Anna texted me when the whole like Julie Chrissly thing was going down. Oh my God.

And she was like, your partner next season. I'm like, bitch. Well, that's what I saw the Karen Reed trial that was happening the other week where she got, when she got acquitted, it was like Dancing with the Stars.

Dancing with the phone. Yeah, you can see my DMs were flooded. We're flooded. That is so funny. Are there people, like, when you think about, like, being on the show and being partnered with somebody, like, who are some of the people that you think of that are like, oh, if I could just get my hands on her? Honestly, everyone they've announced so far.

Okay. Is already so good. And I definitely feel like everyone's like, I've been getting a lot of people saying, I want you with Whitney. I want you with Jen. I want you with Alex. I'm like, girl, I'll take all three. They're all so.

And Rob. I'm like, Jesus, I won't. Yeah. All just already, from what I hear too, it's going to be a spectacular season. So genuinely, like literally anyone they've announced, I'll gladly take. Do you have like, but do you have like bucketless kind of people where it's like, oh my God, if she. Yes. Like, Trisha Pades.

Like, please. Like, please. And I just did her podcast. And we were just talking with her, like, talking with her, like the things we could do on the show. And I really wish that she gets. to get to get Trisha would be I mean that would be like appointment television and I feel

bad too because she was sitting there and she's like what can I do? Yeah and I'm like I don't know because I keep saying I keep saying and I was saying they usually don't take people who are pregnant but then next thing you know they know it's like

I was like yeah man I was like she's really probably upset about that one I mean though like you know there's always next year. Also, like, I would argue that maybe doing the show a couple months after having a baby, like, isn't, maybe you're not going to be set up for success the same way you might be if you're, like, really preparing for it. I agree with you there. And I definitely feel like if you aren't at the healthiest compatibility to do the show, because it is very, it's very physical. And I feel like a lot of people truly don't understand how physical it is. Because a lot of these

celebrities, they have different activity levels going into the show. I mean, I think a lot of people who have been on the show have talked about that afterward, that it's like, oh, yeah, like, I knew it would be like a good workout. I didn't realize that it would be like boot camp the entire time I'm on the show. And they get snatched, and that's my favorite part. I mean, I love it when they get snatched. I feel people's lives get changed by doing the show sometimes. Well, if you think about it, these celebrities are doing something out of their comfort

zone. It's a very vulnerable experience. So as a human, you are truly being tested and you're then having to do it in front of millions of people. So it is a huge, for a lot of people who go into with the right mindset, they always leave like with a very valuable lesson in life and dance and whatnot. But ultimately, we're just teaching them out of cha cha-cha, which is why the show is so special. Yeah. I'm curious, like people on, pros on Dancing with the Stars have done, so many different types of projects and opportunities. I mean, like we said, the huffs have done literally everything. Max was on traitors a couple of seasons ago.

Mark is doing traitors. Mark's doing traitors. Do you have stuff that's kind of on your vision board of like, oh, maybe I would do this, maybe I would do that? My vision board for this year was doing Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. I just desperately wanted to do it. Yeah. So I got to do that, which is really sick.

I can see myself doing traders. I don't know if I'd be good on traitors. I don't know if you would be good on traitors either Yeah, I don't know if that's my I mean if they want a fun fruity guy then I'm your girl I feel like you would be I feel like you would be a great addition to the cast I don't know if you would do super well Yeah, I think I'm I agree But I'm the same way when I think about that I'm like I'm like oh I would be a mess Yeah I'll like I'll make a TV but I don't know if I could last I just I don't know I'm not good at mind games

Like I just don't like I just see Gabby Wendy and seeing her crush that I'm like, I can't do that like you did. No, and when you think about the fact that they're stuck in that environment for two weeks, it's like you don't get to like slay at the round table and then go sit on the couch for a day. Like you have to be like in it. And you're not on your phone. That's a big one for me. The screen time would be an issue.

Yeah, the screen time would be an issue. I talked to Dolores Katania who was on last season. I live for her. I think she said they get like 15 minutes a day to like make a phone call. That's when I knew Mark was on the show because I, because I texted him and it wasn't going through. And I don't know why. I haven't even told him this. I didn't know why mine was like, oh, he's on traitors.

I just assumed because I knew at the time that's when they were approximately filming. Yeah. So when his texts weren't going through, I'm like, oh, he's not on his phone. Oh, he's on traders right now. And you're like, okay, so you're not using your 15 minute phone call for the day to get back to my text. To text me. I was like, oh, you're texting your kid right now. This is crazy.

But he responded. He was like, Ezra, I'm so sorry. I've taken a. social media break. I'm like sure. I'm like sure. That was always the thing like you like when when the girls would go on drag race and they would like be like I'm stepping away for the next month for my mental health.

And it's like bitch. We just know we know you did drag race. And you know that I did drag race too. What did you do on drag race? So I was part of, um, I danced on the show. It was All Star 7. Oh my God. I was like on the most iconic season ever.

And at the time I hadn't. The only drag queen I've met was LaGanja Estrangea. Growing up in Utah, as you can imagine, they didn't paint drag queens in the best light. So when I was offered to dance on the show, I was hesitant because I was freshly moved to L.A. I was still closeted. It was still a really hard experience for me to do.

But I knew that was my community. So I knew I wanted to do the show. So when I got to do it, they were like, you're in front of legends. These are legends. I'm like, great. I don't even know who these people are. You're like, great.

Her makeup's cute. Yeah. But I'll never forget the way jinx monsoon. Oh, my God. Yeah. And the way she held herself in that room and the way she made me feel and the way she made the camera guy feel. And all those queens truly just inspired me with their professionalism and the way

they held themselves and how cunty they were. I was just gagged, truly. Yeah. And it was that experience that really opened my eyes on the ignorance that I was taught growing up, but also at the same time, how. how these artists are truly the best at what they do. Yeah. It's really cool when you meet somebody who's like the best at what they do and also is like a cool person.

Yes. While they're doing it. Yes. I hate meeting someone who's like sick, but then like a bitch. I'm like I cannot stand that. Yeah. I mean people literally like the number one question I get is like, so who was the who sucked the most that you've had on the podcast? I'm like, I don't know.

You always hope that people are just like chill and fun. I don't know. But. No, thankfully, very few, very few horror stories, I would say. Did you have Fadra? Yeah. Fadra's great. Her makeup?

Yes. There's not a single porn on her face. It's flawless makeup. The hair is always just like so exactly correct. Yes. I'm interested, like on Dancing with the Stars, like, do people bring their own glam sometimes? It depends on, like, Brooks had Patrick Taq coming every week to do it. Of course.

I'm like, of course. You have Patrick Talk. coming in. But for us peasants, we would go and get our makeup stuff like. You're getting like a quick get out there. They're like, you got five minutes. But the hair and makeup team, they're truly incredible on the show. And as you can imagine, doing a live show with hair and makeup is really difficult to do. Yeah. So many moving pieces. Yeah. Doing anything live is just like just doing anything is so hard. Doing anything is so hard. Jesus Christ. I mean, this has been just, I'm already sweating. Who, who, girl. What time is it? I don't know. We got to get out of here.

I'm like, we gotta get to hide. And what is the sound? And it's 7 p.n on a Friday. Get your ass up to, we're going to hide, whatever. Oh, my God. I love that sound. This has been great. Yeah, thanks for having me.

Thanks for being here. I can't, I am so curious to see what, what more casting surprises we have in store for this season. It's going to be, okay, I feel like I want to. No, I'm not going to Easter egg any of them. Sorry. I don't think you need to. No. And I fear I actually get fired if I could.

So, yeah, so we're not going to do that today. Again, not trying to get you. fired. Trying to keep my job. That's the goal. We love that. The off season, that was my goal. Trying to keep my job. Right. It's like, go on tour. Make it through tour. That was on tour, I was like, let's get through tour. Off tour.

Try to keep your job. That's my gender. There you go. Two things to, and how do we do? Am I keeping my okay? We're great. We got the thumbs up. Great. We still have a job. Great job. Great job. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Thanks. Thank you everyone for watching. Don't forget to

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