Mention It All - Family Is Everything, Until It Isn’t Ft. Melissa Gorga

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

Just in time for the RHONJ reunion, Dylan is joined by Melissa Gorga to unpack this roller coaster of a season. They discuss how the social media response has shifted, and she explains why she finally feels free after so many seasons of feuding with Teresa. She also weighs in on the issues between Dolores and Jennifer, and why New Jersey is such a tough show for new women to succeed on. Finally, she talks about her experience on RHUGT, and why it may have marked the beginning of the end for her and Teresa. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, boo. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I am extremely excited to be joined today by a real housewife of New Jersey, Melissa. Melissa. Hi, how are you, honey?

I'm doing great, so great to see you. It's been a while, and this season has been a roller coaster to say the least. Yeah, to say the least. And by the way, I live for your like Instagram. And no matter what you say, for me, against me, whatever it is, I live for it. Like, I think you're so great. Isn't that you? Are you handling the Bravo by Betches?

Is that you? Yeah. Yeah, that's me. You do a really good job. You're like interested. And you know it all. You're into it. So I feel you're a celebrity in your own right.

on Instagram. Well, thank you so much, Melissa. I feel like, speaking of for you against you on social media, I feel like this season, there's been a little bit of a shift. I feel like maybe some people that weren't so team Melissa Gorga have sort of come on board and are sort of seeing your side more than they have in the past. Do you feel that at all? Or do you, is it hard to kind of judge that when you're looking at social media during this season? No, I definitely see it. And mainly because of like my, I don't really read the comments, so to speak. So like if I write something, I'm not there reading comments on things that other people post. But I do, when I go to bed at night and I can't fall asleep, I'll hit that plus 99. And like read what the fans are saying, like when I can't

fall asleep. So that's where I get like the, and I have been like overloaded with just like advice to me and telling me they, you know, they understand and they know, you know, they know who I am and just a lot of wonderful messages, probably more than ever, I would say. And so yes, the answer to that is yes. Well, I think you've been on the show for such a long time now. You're at the 10 season mark, which feels crazy. But it's, you know, we've watched you over the years kind of go through so many phases of your personal stuff, what you have with Joe, with Teresa, obviously. There's just been so many ups and downs in the dynamics over the years that it's like, it's hard not to take a step back and be like, at the end of the day, like, I feel like you've kind of done what you can.

You know, I don't think anybody's walking away thinking, oh, Melissa is the villain of this show. No, I mean, it would be crazy to think that. The only reason I would ever even get the word villain, I would say, surrounded was because I joined the Real Housewives of New Jersey. 12 years ago, I was a 31-year-old girl that had an opportunity, right? Just like every other person in New Jersey at this point, I'm not even going to lie. They've hit every girl up in New Jersey. I'm not even kidding. So, like, the funny part is I know people in the beginning would love to, like, they loved to say,

oh, it's because of Teresa, it's because of Teresa. You wouldn't be here. You wouldn't be here. I mean, do people honestly think that if there were, if Teresa wasn't on the show and Bravo came to interview Joe and I, we wouldn't have made it onto the show, but all of these other people would have? I mean, I just feel like people are so silly when they say shit like that. Can I curse? Of course you can. I was dying at the reunion this year when Teresa starts to go back to that. Oh, when Melissa came on the show and Andy's like, uh-uh, we can't. I simply cannot go back to that

place. No, it's like the forbidden. It's like everyone at Bravo, the publicists, everyone's like, you are not allowed Teresa to say that anyway. We are so past that. Like at this point, I've been on the show since season three. Season one, they only did six episodes. I probably, like, I'm not that many episodes behind whatever she's done. So it's insane. And I'll never, I'll always, like, of course she was here first and I get that. But I feel like that's the only villain aspect I will get. is like she came on the show behind my back because she just planted it and planted it and planted it. And it's like, I don't think anybody cares anymore. Let's be honest. I think everyone's over that. But when it comes to the family going back to what you said, I truly have no guilt. And that's, that's honest.

I truly feel like I have hit every avenue. I have done everything right. I have not always. I've definitely made mistakes. Don't take that out of context. But I've definitely come back. from mistakes. I've definitely tried. I've definitely reached out. I've definitely forgave, forgave, forgave, forgive, forgive, try it again, try it. I've hit all the avenues. Like, I have no guilt. And so finally, I do feel a little free in the fact that it's okay to say that we don't have the best relationship. And I don't feel guilty saying that because I tried really hard and I know that I tried hard for my in-laws, for Joe. I do it for them, you know, and they're not here anymore. And Now, it's really for Joe to have a something.

He has no one that. It's sad for me to see that he has no family. You know, I have a huge family, thank God. And he's very involved with my family. But I feel bad. Like, you need a family member, you know? Yeah. And at the reunion, especially in the first part, it really did feel like maybe you had put

aside the idea of you and Teresa personally being super close or sisters or whatever, but that on behalf of Joe, it was a painful thing for you that there's the, rift between them and that it does feel like you are kind of trying to put in the work and see what if you can make any progress. And when Joe walked off the reunion set, it did feel like this moment where it was like, I don't know what direction you're supposed to go in at that point. I think I'm, I think we are all as a cast sick of it, to be honest. Nobody, does anybody want to see like Teresa, Melissa and Joe argue anymore or make

or break up or break up to make like just leave it alone right like and it's so funny because people will try to say like you need that no no no no no no I don't care if we never talk about it again you have me all fucked up you got it twisted I don't want to talk about Teresa the family zero so it's like when people will say that to me like oh you need to talk about it and I'm like what like never if it was up to me like never you know I've actually liked these last couple seasons, seeing you get so close with Jackie and Margaret especially, it's been fun to see you just like have friends on the show that you don't have to always be like at odds with.

Like I imagine that that is something that we don't always get to see some of the kind of just like fun times that you have with each other. But it is nice to know that when you're in this environment filming the show, that it's not just like, oh, well, like, I hate all these bitches, but I have to go. spend time with them. It's like you, you have real friends in the group. No, they're legit good people. They're good to me. They've been friends to me. I feel like I've never really had a great friend on the show. I've done it myself all these years. I fought my own battles all of these years. I never really had that like backup saying, yeah, no, Melissa's right. I mean, the last person I would say that agreed with

us was Caroline Manzo. And she was on the show saying like, these are not bad people. Like everyone's got it twisted, you know what I mean? And it was just hard coming into the show, obviously, season three. But I've never had anyone back me up or stand behind me or be my little puppet, so to speak, because to be honest, it's really not my style. I'm a control freak anyway. Like, I got this. I don't even want anyone to speak up for me most of the time. But, like, I like to control, because I don't like, I can't control someone else. Like, maybe if Teresa feels like she has a little control with Jennifer or like, but I never, believe that. People always turn, you know? So like, I like to do it myself. That's how I feel. But when it

comes to Margaret and Jackie, I do think they're true good friends to me. I do. I believe it. I see it. And that's a first and like a really long time for me, you know? Yeah. I mean, it must feel nice after so many years to actually have people that you really do feel comfortable with. And like, you don't necessarily have to have your guard up as much if you're going into a group scene, knowing that they're going to be there. Like, you know, you can just go hang out with them. And it's not going to be some big nightmare. Yeah, because it's always, it was like a nightmare for so many years.

Every scene we walked into everything. And it was just, it was a lot. But yes, I do have friends. I'm actually very excited. I know I'm hearing the rumors like everyone else is that there's like a little switch up happening with like some maybe some new faces. I am always down with for like new blood and new people. And my goal, like my hope.

I would say for anyone new coming on to this show, it's very hard to cast anyone who's not a fan at this point. It's impossible. You're not casting anyone in New Jersey who doesn't know the show, who doesn't watch the show, or who doesn't like know us or have seen it. If they say they haven't, they're lying, okay? Because it's, I don't believe it. So it's very, very hard to cast our show right now because it's like they have a side before they even come on most of the time. And it sucks that there even is sides, but you know how these shows go. That's just how it is all the time. Your summer starts now with Memorial Day deals at the Home Depot.

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She and Tiki were friends with you and Joe. It seemed like she had a really tough time kind of finding that spot in the group. And I know that like Jackie posted a picture this week of her and Jennifer and Tracy with their daughters and was like, you don't always see the good times. Like obviously, it seemed like she got along with most of the people in the group. But like you said, it's hard. It's a tough group to really like cement yourself in. And do you feel like when somebody comes on the show that you're friends with, does it, do you feel bad at all if they don't really click with the group?

Yes, I do. It's happened a couple times, actually, throughout the years. I do feel bad. And I do think Tracy clicked. I think our husband clicked. I just think it's a very tough. It's very hard. Andy Cohen says it all the time.

Jersey is the absolute hardest of all the franchises to. I think it's because it's family. It's very polarizing. It's very hard to put your two cents into the family drama without looking like you're crazy. You know? So it's like it is rough. I do want to see Tracy. And hopefully you will see more of her this coming season that, you know.

So we'll see. But yes, it does. You kind of feel responsible. You want to like rally for them, you know. But at the end of the day, we don't have a voice over Bravo. Teresa doesn't have one. I don't have one. None of us do. Right. Yeah. You guys have never really had the din. I don't know if any housewife has ever really had a voice over Bravo. But definitely, I think on Jersey, it's always felt like a real ensemble that they're kind of putting together. And it's worked so well. I mean, the fact that you guys have had the same six full-time housewives for four seasons in a row. Like, nobody else is doing that. And there's a reason that it's working well. But obviously then when you want to bring new people into the show, it just is a difficult group to kind of crack.

It's so difficult. You almost feel bad for them when they walk in the room. But then there's the ones you get that just dive right in. And then they're like too much and they try too hard. And then we can see through that too. So it's very hard not to find like just the middle person who's going to come in as like a girl who's just going to like take it all in and say like, let me see where I feel most comfortable. That's who's going to win in this. It's not someone who comes in, like, rallying for one person.

You're already off. You're already losing, you know? Yeah. Speaking of being kind of like in the world of in New Jersey and everybody kind of knows who, who you guys are, you've been around for such a long time. That kind of came up with Teresa and Louie and her saying that he didn't sign up for any of this and all of that. And that's always, it's an interesting thing because it's like, okay, he's not a real housewife,

but there's been a lot of talk with your reunion about. about men getting involved in women's drama. And I've always felt that your show doesn't really have those lines as much. That it's all, everybody's kind of intertwined. And like, Teresa wants Joe to speak up against Margaret. And that's acceptable.

But then there's like sort of this, it doesn't work the other way. Like the idea of signing up for it. Yeah. It's not, it's not that simple. And I think it's kind of convenient to say like, oh,

he didn't sign up for it. Stop talking about him. It's like, well, we're all on the show. Anyone else. Either did Evan, right? When all that stuff was getting said about Evan, listen, when you are going to date someone like Teresa or a Margaret, if you came in and you were going to be my new boyfriend, right? Know that we are going to talk about you, that we are going to investigate you.

Like, there is no one on these shows, especially Jersey. You might get away with that in, like, New York. Maybe Beverly Hills. Like, if Erica Jane gets a man, she might be able to, like, keep him a little separate. right, but not in Jersey. And like, they are with us. First of all, Joe, he's involved because he's dealing with his nieces. He was dealing with his mother.

He's dealing with his father. He's dealing with his sister. He's dealing with his wife. So it's like, he's got, he always had five people on the show that, like, so Joe is obviously a little different than everyone else. But in Jersey, it's like, look at Frank Catania. He's the ex. And we, he's fully involved in the show.

He's literally the ex-husband. So you can't expect to date someone new. think that he's going to be off limits, especially when obviously Louis had so much circulating about him on the internet. There was no way we were going to put up the cameras and someone wasn't going to bring it up or that Bravo was going to let us, like, not ask a question. And I think Andy made that very clear at the reunion. Like, are you kidding? No one brought this out. The internet brought it out. Like if the internet says something about me tomorrow, we're going to talk about it, you know? Right. And just because in some cases, Margaret may have been the first person to say, you

it on camera, that doesn't mean that if she didn't say it, it just wouldn't have existed in the world of the show. I mean, that seems kind of naive to act like that's how it works. Right. I mean, come on. We all know that. I think it's just, we all know that no matter what somebody was bringing. Andy Cohen was going to bring it up, no matter what, you know, we have Andy. So he was going to say it. So you know that. Andy asks all the hard question. He asked everything. That's Andy, you know. So it is what it. is. I think it's silly to think that, like, you can come on the show and not have, like, a voice, especially if you're coming in as Teresa's new boyfriend. Of course, we're going to ask questions.

Look at Joe Judas. He was prime in the show, too. The men in our show are headliners, you know? Right. And I think that works to the show's benefit. I think people have really liked, especially these last two or three seasons, when the group has kind of solidified with Evan and with Joe B and with Frank. like people love that group of guys. And so to kind of then be like, but they should stay out of it. It's like, that's not, you can't have it both ways. And I think the show, I think your show, the guys are like such a strong point for it. Oh, they're a huge strong point. I mean, they, they're, I feel like when they're casting new girls, they check out the man as well. Like, let me meet your husband and see how he, what's his personality, you know? So it's like, when you get casted on Jersey, you're really cast it as a. family. So the girls that don't have the large families or they're coming as singles or don't usually last. It's it's usually they want the husband. They want the whole dynamic. They want to

know your in-laws in that situation. So it's like Jersey's a whole different beast. All new drinks are now at McDonald's with refreshers like the strawberry watermelon refresher and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba to crafted sodas like the Spriteberryberry blast with berry flavors and cold foam. Who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire? Try them all now at McDonald's. Refreshers contain caffeine. Copyright 2026, the Coca-Cola Company. Sprite is a registered trademark of the Coca-Cola Company.

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a bunch in the past. Have they ever talked about coming on the show in a more substantial context? Or do you think that would ever happen? No, because they live an hour and a half away. So it's just they don't, they're so far down the shore. And they're. And they're so far down the shore. and they really have never expressed. They'll always come on for me. They think it's fun. My sisters are the life of the party. You guys think I'm the life of the party?

They make me look like Mother Teresa. I swear to God, they're so much fun. They're like lively. They're awesome. So it's great to have them around to like, you know, when we're filming and when Donna Marco comes on, my mother, it's just hysterical. Everyone loves it.

We just like, but I don't think they would ever want their life to solely be what I've dedicated this to. You know, I've been doing this for 12 years. I feel like they're like, you know, not in the final, not now. It's been too long. And it's too far. Sorry, my dog's barking. Nika.

It's just too, it's too far. It's too far when people live that far. Yeah. I don't know if Donna Marco could handle having another child in the crossfire on this show. No, as it is. She's like, oh my God, what's happening? And like, let me, because, you know, she's getting older. My mother's 73.

So they spent a lot of time watching the housewives. She texts me. She's like, it's Andy's birthday. It's Doreet's birthday. Wish Kyle a happy birthday. She's like 4-1-1, my mother. She knows everything. It's insane.

There's a lot of birthdays to keep track of. She knows them all. She knows them all. I, this reunion, really, there was a lot going on. And a lot of people, myself included, were surprised to see the dynamic between Dolores and Jennifer. Because it really felt like maybe they weren't the best of friends, sometimes. in the past, but it was surprising to see kind of how bad things had gotten between them. Did you know, did you know to expect that going into the reunion or were you kind of caught off

guard by that as well? I knew that they were having like a little bad blood, but honestly, I could expect that from Jennifer. From Dolores, that's where it was shocking for me because she's very Switzerland most of the time. She really doesn't, you know, she just doesn't do that, Dolores. And all the years we've seen her on the show, I mean, I'm sure you. you can confirm. You really never see her completely turn on someone, even when she totally has

every right to, you know? So I was in shock, not because of Jennifer, but because Dolores, I was like, whoa, whoa. And let me just tell you this, I am so against the C-U next Tuesday. I just don't like it. I feel like it looks trashy. It's like I'm not the one. You'll never hear it come out of my mouth. If I say it, I really slipped. Like, it's, I just think it's gross, right? So Dolores says it at the reunion just randomly. I laughed and I never laugh at that word. I don't think it's funny. I don't think there's anything cute about it. It was the way she just turned her head and called Jennifer. I see you next Tuesday. I just giggled. I was like, oh my God, I've never laughed in anyone saying that word before, but she got me to laugh at it. It was just so something was so funny about the way she

said it. But yeah, those two are not on good terms right now. So we, I guess we'll see what what comes because obviously we're about to go into this all over again. So let's see how that goes. But I'm actually proud of Dolores for like just standing on her ground for anything she believes in. Jennifer always stands her ground. Jennifer will argue with someone. She'll turn on someone. Dolores doesn't.

So it was kind of interesting to see the fact that she's actually mad at somebody. Right. Jennifer's personality is very like not only are you going to know that I'm mad at you, but I'm going to remind you every five minutes and it's always going to be an issue. Whereas Dolores, it's like, oh, yeah, I might not be the biggest fan of you, but like, usually she doesn't really talk about it that much. And so I would, yeah, it was kind of refreshing to see her come into the reunion with so many thoughts about Jennifer. Yeah. Listen, here's the thing with Jennifer, too, for me.

I'm not into like the wishy-washy. Like, sometimes I feel like it's not, and it's so weird because I know she always said that I was self-absorbed or unauthentic. but a lot of times I feel like that's how I feel with her. Like I don't know if it's for the cameras sometimes or if it's real. And I get very confused with her. So it's like because sometimes she, it's like at the reunion. I feel like she's re-auditioning again for next year.

Every reunion she like says things that she didn't say all season long or didn't bother her. So I feel like Jennifer in her brain sits down on the couch and she's like, this is my audition for next year. And like she auditions where I've never. handled the show that way. And I don't, Teresa doesn't handle the show that way either. Like, we come in very real, very like what we're feeling, what we're not auditioning for next year. You know, so that part of her always took a little bit of me to get like used to. I'm just like, ugh, this girl. Like it's like, I don't know. So I'm trying with Jennifer. I will tell you that.

Like, I think we're trying to turn a corner. I'm trying to enjoy her. I see that they're like, listen, she came on to the show. I, I remember her coming right up to me. Like, you're so fun. You're the fun one. You're always drinking. You're always having good time. Like, I know that she wanted initially to like have fun with me, you know? And I'm always down for a party girl.

So I just feel like there's, there's, you know, there's maybe a longer story between Jennifer and I that we can get to another spot eventually or maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see. Yeah, famous last words, but I would like to see it. I mean, I think Jennifer is one of those people where sometimes in what's going on with her personally, you can really, watching the show, you really root for her. Like, the stuff that she was going through with Bill and with her parents last year, it's like, you just want, you want the best for her. You want her to win in that situation.

But then sometimes the energy she brings to her relationships on the show. It's like, oh, it's just like. It's exhausting. It's a lot of work. She kind of like talks over you. So you can, and it's almost like one of those things you're like, all right, just be quiet. I don't.

like you just like like you just let her keep going you know because but she really only does that if you haven't noticed to watch it's the reunion it's just the reunions she doesn't do that all season lot it's like just the reunion so it's kind of weird I always feel like it's an audition you know it's always interesting different people have such different strategies kind of going into the reunion like I feel like some people I've talked to they're like oh yeah like you got to rewatch the season the whole thing and take notes and get coached. And like, you know, some people prepare so much. And then some people kind of don't think about it at all.

And it does feel like Jennifer is one of those people where it's like, I have to be on my A game. And I have to like, even if the question doesn't concern me, I'm going to have my comeback ready to go. Oh, I feel like she pops in Adderall. I say that all the time. I'm like, that's her day. She does that. She sits down. She studied all night the night before.

She printed her shit out. like I go in I'm like I didn't watch and I'm not even going to lie they gave us the last three episodes like there was two Nashville episodes and one other they gave it to us like two nights before the reunion I was busy and then the night before the reunion I went down at the hotel I was like I need a glass of wine like I'm not going to watch three episodes I went in not even knowing what happened I just like I lived it and I'll figure it out when I get there you know but I don't think everyone rolls that way I think some people study more than others you know I remember one year, I think it was Dallas. They said they recorded the reunion kind of early. So they had like six episodes to watch right before. And I'm like, how do you even process that? You can't process it. They gave us three.

And that's three hours worth of like, it's a lot. I was like, I'm not watching this. Like, I can't. So I didn't watch it. Yeah. Speaking of when we saw you, I loved seeing you on Ultimate Girls trip. And I think a lot of people felt similar that it was fun seeing you in an environment where you could kind of just relax a little bit and enjoy yourself.

And you and Teresa seemed to be in a really in a nice spot when you did that more or less. And like, what was that experience like compared to filming all these seasons of New Jersey? I loved that. That was definitely a little bit more laid back. It was definitely just like getting to know other women and like sharing stories together. But that's another thing. when I went back and watched the ultimate girls trip, right? I was even watching some of the scenes where they show Teresa and I just like going together

and we got off the plane and we were in the car. And I remember looking at her like genuinely saying like, this is exciting. We get to do this together. Like this is something fun and like we'll have these memories when we get older that we did all these crazy things together. And she kind of just like, and I rolls her eyes at me a little bit. And I think like I think between that and like, watching the season. I just kind of feel like, now I tried and I'm good. Like I, I've, I've always put my best foot forward. And I just feel like I always want to have a relationship with her. But like,

that was another thing that I kind of watched. And I was like, I don't know. I feel like I give up. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's been, it's been a long time. But you guys, you got the MTV, uh, TV award nomination, which is exciting. I saw Luann's vagina like seven times on that trip. And it's beautiful. And her body's so beautiful. It really is. She did yoga every morning. Like, I really, really liked Luann.

And I just, I had so much fun on that job. I mean, Kyle and I were roommates. We had the best time. It was just a really, it was awesome. And I love that it's up for an MTV newest show or something, right? New unscripted reality. It's very exciting. They're doing this next season at Dorinda's Place in the Berkshires, which looks

crazy. A whole different show. I'm curious, if you were to do another one of these girls' trips in the future, is there anyone else that you would like to bring along with you that wasn't on your first one? From my cast? No, from any cast. Oh, from any cast. Um, geez, there's so many. I would love to be with, like, Doreet. I love Doree. I would love to hang with her. Um, I love Erica Jane. I love, I love all the Beverly Hills girls, to be honest. Um, who else? I feel like Giselle from Potomac would be like a firecracker. I feel like, I mean, the New York girls, I don't know, maybe Sonia. You might need Sonia on one of these trips, right?

Totally. So many. I don't know. Portia, I always said, would be great. So you can basically pull anyone from anywhere, put us together. It's going to be a good show. Yeah. I think, I mean, the possibilities are endless.

And I'm very excited to see what they do in the future. I'm so excited for the future of New York. Jersey. And this season, I wish it was longer. You guys always have these short seasons. I know. It's for worse. And we complain and we tell everybody, everybody complains. The fans complained. The production. We're like, what's the problem? See, they like to give, like, quality over quantity. Where some of the franchises just, like, bang them out. And it's more quantity over quality. So I feel like Jersey cuts it to, like, the main things and just gives you, like the meatballs, the meat and potatoes.

The meatballs are pasta. I do appreciate it. I wish, like, we didn't even, we basically didn't see Antonia's Sweet 16, which made me sad. They filmed that and it was so pretty and it was in. It was in an episode. And then last minute it got cut because for something negative, of course, but it got cut because we were going to Nashville and it was too close to Nashville.

And it was like a big discussion like, does it say in? Does it not say in? and then like last minute. And I was like, I feel like we need to show some of those moments of like, even if it's for three minutes, just show like the family moments too. I hate when those. I, I rally for that. Like I'll, I'll text all the producers.

I'm like, not just for my stuff. There was a couple of Margaret's things. There was a Teresa thing. There was a couple of things that got cut. And I'm like, I don't get it. You know, I rally for you guys. Yeah. Almost with the shorter seasons, it's like what we lose first is kind of the like personal fun

moments. A lot of personal this year from all of us. That I will say. I don't really see a personal story anywhere if you pay attention. I mean, Jackie gave us hers, definitely. But other than that, there's not a huge personal thing going on because it's like they cut a lot of it this season. Right. Which, you know, I understand it. But also it's like we could have like two more episodes, you know. Agreed. Two more would have been sufficient. I would be fine with like 15, right? That would have been back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From your mouth to the Bravo God's ears. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure they're all listening. I just want to, so we have one more part of the reunion that's coming out this week. Is there anything that you're like nervous to see in this reunion or excited for?

Or like, where does this reunion rank in terms of intensity of all the reunions you've done? Jeez. I mean, it's hard to fight with like the season three reunion and like this season four reunion. Those were the biggest ones that I've been in, I would say, my first two seasons. But this one's definitely a, I mean, I've never seen a response like we've seen from this one. It's been insane. Like, this one's definitely up there in the top three reunions because it's just, you see, it's insane. It's so crazy.

And it tells a lot. And I think it's very, like, eye-opening, you know? And I haven't seen the third episode yet. So I have no idea what's on it. Okay. You're like, I might be nervous for it, but I don't know. yet. I have no idea if I come out looking like an asshole.

But anyway, I haven't seen it yet. Maybe ignorance is bliss sometimes. You're like, I don't need to know. Exactly. Exactly. Amazing. Well, Melissa, thank you so much for coming on.

This was so fun getting to chat with you. I know. Of course, hopefully I see you soon at like some Bravo party or something. Yes, we better. And if not, BravoCon in the fall, we'll be there. Oh my God.

There's BravoCon. I know you're going to be there. I know. So exciting. Okay. All right. Good. So nice talking.

to you and I will be following you on Instagram for all your great posts. Amazing. Thank you, Melissa. Okay. Bye. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show wherever you listen. If you are like Melissa and love us on Instagram, follow at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool.

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