Mention It All - Flipping Cars & Blizzards In Pasadena (RHOBH)

Episode Date: September 16, 2021

Dylan and Bari recap another iconic episode of Beverly Hills, and they start by trying to make sense of Erika’s unbelievable story. They commend Kyle’s work ethic, and question Crystal’s comments about Garcelle. Later, they discuss Dorit’s wedding dress reveal, and why she won’t stop coming for Garcelle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, boo? And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep week. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer.

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. You know what? I just felt coming in my, inside my bones. I just have, hell. Sometimes Deline and I randomly get word vomit and just have to like

get out whatever is on the tip of our tongues and that was for you right now. I love that. That was great. It's podcast Thursday. It's Beverly Hills

recap Thursday. Podcast Friday. It's real Thursday. Podcast Friday. No idea what day it is. Medicine Monday. Yeah, whatever. It's um,

but I had this revelation like this morning or last night. Now I don't remember. I don't remember anything. Thursdays are great because for right now only, it's like strictly dedicated to Beverly Hills. So we can pour our blood, sweat, and tears into it. Yeah. You know, Bravo is, you know, they always are playing around with us.

So it'll be like, you know, like right now having Potomac and Salt Lake on Sunday nights, it's like, I'm thankful for all of the content, but like it's a little stressful. it's a little hectic. Right. I feel like my Sunday nights are now like, you know, it's like I'm starting my work week on at Sunday at 8 p.m. Which, you know, it is what it is. But like I do love having like full focus, Beverly Hills, Wednesday nights.

I, you know, if I have any errands to run or any, you know, if I want to make dinner, I make sure to get it done by 8 p.m. So I can be, you know, sit my little ass in front of the TV or in front of the computer screen and just let it wash over me. The devil works hard, but Bravo works harder. They do. And, you know, they filmed the reunion last week for Beverly Hills. So it sounds like that should be exciting.

At like 9, 10 last night, my sister-in-law texts me and she was like, as Beverly Hills over? And I go, yeah. And she goes, that was abrupt. And I thought she meant like my answer. And I was like, what was? She's like, this season. Like, I just wasn't ready for it. And I go, no, like, the episode is over.

over tonight. They, it, we're like, what do you talk about? If that was the season finale, I mean. I was like, they just filmed the reunion. We got a, we have a little ways to go. It was funny because, um, faces by Bravo on Instagram posted something about how Kathy wasn't there for the full reunion because she's a friend of. Right.

And that they wish, you know, he's saying he wished she was there for the whole time. And Kathy commented she was like, she was like, trust me, I was there long enough morning till 9 p.m. It's like, okay, we're going to get some good Kathy. Well, the whole day, well, yeah, that's a long time for her, but the whole day Andy was on and he was like still here, still here. I feel like he does that for every reunion, though. Like, I feel like every reunion, he's like, it took us 12 hours. And I'm like, that seems like the norm at this point. But, you know, this is a three-parter, though, which I kind of expected for Beverly Hills. Don't they always have a three-parter? Like, Beverly Hills. Yeah.

but I'm like recently we've been like in the complaint company the complain area right right right I feel like hopefully that means they really like earned three parts rather than just like okay part two we're going to talk about um crystals handbags all I want to see is her new basement okay that okay first of all she's cut the price says they she wants to keep the basement renovation to six figures I'm like She wants to keep it that way because it was seven. But the thing is she cut it from one million to five. How did you? What was 500,000 that you cut? Maybe there was like a really special like pinball machine. Her reasoning for the golf simulator being so hot.

Rob so tall. His swing hits the ceiling. Can you imagine like? Right. Most people in their basement don't have like 10 foot ceilings. So I can imagine that. being an issue. It's just most people then would be like, okay, I guess we can't have the golf simulator in the basement.

Damn it. Maricio doesn't get one, you know? Okay. We will get to it. But I feel like we also have been waiting for this moment. Didn't we just talk about this recently that we haven't had enough like P.K. Maricio or husband like scenes. And tonight was last night was the all we needed. That was, they gave it. Last week, the scene with PK, kind of talking to Doreet about Erica, was kind of like, it was like the appetizer.

And then this week, this double date they had was like, you know, the main course. Because it was just seeing them in their element with clearly no filter on. You know, they were just enjoying themselves. I loved it. So let's just back up and talk about this story. So actually I had a really stressful morning because on my way here, you know, I was driving and then there was a tidal wave and then my car actually flipped. Oh, and I really thought you were telling me like you had a stressful morning. I realized you were going into this.

Barry, my car flipped 12 times. My eyes were bulging, bulging out of the sockets. They had to take me to the hospital. they had to take me to the, Erica's son had to come get me, but it was snowing in Pasadena, mind you. Yeah, Pasadena. And so it took him, he ended up having to get a helicopter, parachuted down to the hospital. He brought me back to my apartment, and I actually just made it back in time for our 11 a.m. recording. So that is, thankfully.

But my eyes are still a little sore because they were bulging out of the sockets. And you have glaucoma. I don't know what that means, but sure. You don't know what I go with it? Wait, not really. I know if you're like commercials. Okay. First of all, this, the fact that Kyle truly said that in a story is so unbelievable.

And that's the only word that. And then Doreet said, how in the world can someone even make that up? And part of me was like, well, I mean, there were a lot of layers. But just maybe for this week, if people decide not to come for me for being Team Erica, this story was berserk. It was so beyond that you have to give some credit. It was wild. What?

Okay. So people were trying to sort of like find whatever evidence they could. And this burglary was reported. back in February, I think. Right, because remember the tabloids had Tom with a black eye? Was that from that? No, the black eye was very, was a lot more recent. This was like early this year.

I can't keep up. The burglary was reported. But the thing is, okay, so the burglary wasn't the part of the story that was hard to believe. It's like everybody knows, you know, I could find this house on Google Maps in two minutes. Like, everybody knows where they live, especially if they know that Eric, is not there. You presume that it's just this 80 year old dude hanging out in the house. I don't think it's that crazy that somebody would try to rob the house. But the rest of the story is like that's the part where it's like, so something happened between Tom and the burglars. And then he was injured. But Erica couldn't go to the house because she's not supposed to be having contact with him. So she sends her son and he's driving, but it's snowing. But this is Los Angeles.

Well, no, no, no, Dylan, he lives a little further up. Right, but like further up where? I know. She said that. I googled last night because I had to. I was like, wait a second, like I have to. I googled when was last time it snowed in Pasadena. And it snowed like the biggest snowfall was like in 1984.

And it's on it. It holds a record of snowing zero inches per year, which even in it's, if it snowed a few inches, your car, it does like, we. live in New York. I know what a snow store. Yeah. Like your car doesn't do that. If Erica was calling her son to be the one to like take him to the hospital, you have to think he lives within like an hour,

right? Also, everyone's main question was who called Erica but couldn't like. Right. So if I mean, this was also the question, you know, it's always like Tom was unconscious, but then he called me and it's like who? Who? Who? When? The, that it's just so like it's like a not children's but it's like a children's book like uh no yeah it's like

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So fucking good. So, okay. So Kyle, I actually thought it was really refreshing that Kyle, I felt like she was being more honest in this episode with her reactions to stuff than she has been for a lot of the season because I think she has been trying to be a good friend to Erica as much as possible. And to hear her say, I'm not saying I don't believe Erica, but this story is unbelievable. I thought that was like a really, it felt like an honest reaction to a story that I think we both agree feels kind of crazy. And then I, at the dinner with, you know, Dore and Piquet,

she was she's like trying to deliver this information in a way that is like faithful to what Erica said but even she can't like hold it in right this is like the tipping point for her where she's like I can't pretend that I don't have like questions or doubts or like confusion about this and I think that is the thing I don't need her like I don't need anyone in the cast to be 100% like

I hate Erica Erica's evil. Erica's going to hell, all of this stuff. Like, I don't need that from these women. I understand that they're conflicted, but I want to see them be real about how they're grappling with this. And I think Kyle and DeRie are getting more to a place

where it's like, okay, this is how you actually feel. You don't just 100% trust everything Erica's telling you. Right. And P.K., first of all, we know has like never believed. Like, he's like everything's bullshit. it like it doesn't but he did say i never trust her he did say that erika happened to have been in a controlled marriage and tom lied to her and she just went with it which i kind of like that's what i've been saying the whole time like i think and my friend even die me last night and she was like t was team erika but she's just digging her her own

whole deeper like what are these like either don't say anything at all or like I'm just I stumble over my words every time I talk about this story. It's just beyond. Like there's so many twists and turns. Kyle also points out that this is not the first time that they have seen Erica at an event. And she's acted like everything is, you know, relatively normal, you know, as much as it is for her at all. And then like two days later, she's like, oh yeah, this crazy thing happened. and that was before I saw you the last time,

but then I didn't say anything because I didn't want it to make a big deal, but now I'm telling you, and it's all going to be on camera, and it's like, if you are, if you're going to show this stuff on camera at all, the like weird back and forth timeline

of like pretending everything is normal and then retroactively telling a story that happened before, it's like, it just makes it hard to, it makes it hard to really like, feel like we understand what Erica's going through. And I get if she doesn't want to tell us everything,

but the timing keeps being weird. And it's like either tell us or don't, but it doesn't make me trust her more that it always feels like she's like coming up with these stories or deciding to share these stories like after the fact. Right. I loved when Kyle said that because it was true, first of all. But I agree, like if you lie one time, like, okay, but if you continue to do this and make it so crazy, like people are going to believe you going forward less and less because how can they trust what you're saying? But at the same time, this dinner watching them.

And okay, you imagine Erica watching your friends. Now we know, remember we found out recently why Erica is not talking to the whole cast. I think now we know why. But those were her friends. So she probably feels really like, upset watching that dinner last night. Oh, totally. But, but.

I don't regret to hear that. Like, I might, I might agree more with Doreet and Kyle than with Erica, but I also can empathize with the fact that it would fucking suck to watch a TV show. Exactly. And realize that your friends are like cackling about your. Yeah.

And she doesn't trust people in general. So now her friends, she doesn't trust like, okay, but we have to allegedly say that more recent. was as high as a kite last night. And it was so funny because he literally thought this story was like the funniest thing in the entire world.

So us watching him watch this story because think about two like men who have nothing to do with this. They're just like laughing, listen to their wives like talk about their friend. But this is such an entertaining story for dinner that once they got to the point of him to. And Kyle is just like, oh my God, what did I do? Like I'm just trying to tell the story. Kyle and Dr. are like, this is genuinely so funny, but also like, oh my God.

And so they, I was laughing when they were laughing about P.K. I was like, no, no. Don't, don't do surgery on his brain. Do his ankle. Do his ankle. Can I go? He's a 79-year-old lawyer. Do his ankle.

He's not a football player. Erica chose for the doctor not to do. First of all, brain surgery is not something you just randomly choose to do or not do. It's like brain. surgery is like something serious. And if you need it, you need it. Not like, eh, we'll wait on this. But then to not do the brain surgery and just go ahead with the ankle surgery, huh? That was the weirdest part to me. I also. But that's where you think you know information's missing. Like what,

like this was a game of telephone. I have to give, um, you know, like an honorary acting award to to Dereet hearing this story from Kyle for the first time because her facial expressions, combined with multiple times the what? Huh. What? Like, the way she, the way she listens and takes in information is like, she's very expressive. She's going on.

Right. Like, she talks a lot, but she is also an extremely active listener. And it is very entertaining to watch. I want to know more of like what happened after this dinner. and like Erica watching this episode that couldn't have been the first time like she heard about.

Like I feel like they had to have brought this up to her again. I feel like she, we haven't really seen it on the show yet, but I feel like in real time, it seems like she's had an idea that Kyle and Dorit are not on her side as much as Rina is. Like it's been clear for a while

that Rina is like the most. ride or die for her. And on Watch Happens Live last night, she was basically still, you know, carrying that torch. And so it really seems like that's what Rina has kind of chosen in this life. Also,

going back to when you said Kyle has been like, she's doing a good job at like understanding and listening to Erica. I think I noted that last night. Like when she, Erica was telling her this story. And it also reminded me of the scene a few weeks ago where Kyle and Sutton were her backyard where Kyle just kind of like listens what people have to say and like they she gently reacts. So like last night when Erica was telling her the story of Kyle was like we'd

like it's no it was snowing like she was trying to like understand where she wants to understand but she's good at doing it in a way where she it's not like she's grilling her like some of these women would kind of be like so I don't like I feel like if Sutton was there she'd be like no no no go back you said it was snowing it doesn't snow in Pasadena like I yes. Yes, but because Kyle was like, I'm trying to help you here, but like, oh my God. This is a very Kyle heavy episode. I think she is doing some really great work right now. We've seen her have scenes with Sutton in the last few weeks where they're kind of one-on-one, you know, this whole scene with Dury.

And then she also has a scene with Crystal, which is, you know, where they're talking about the basement. but that's not the only important thing they talk about. They are digging a little more into the dynamic with Garcel. And I think it's, I was a little surprised at the way this conversation unfolded because it seems like for the most part, Crystal and Garcell have been pretty close this season. We saw them in Lakinta kind of spending a lot of time together. And, you know, Kyle, Kyle has some complicated feelings. about Garcel bringing up the charity check again.

And I feel like Crystal is a little bit, I wish she would have like stood up for Garcel a little more in this conversation. But instead I feel like she's kind of playing into Kyle's hand. And she's talking about how she feels like Garcel doesn't have a lot of friends or a lot of people that she considers friends. So that when she says, you know, I thought we had this friendship and then you did blah, blah, blah. It's like more of a big deal to her. I just thought it was a little bit odd to hear her, like,

kind of diagnose Garcel's, like, character in this way. Like, I thought she would just be a little more neutral. Yeah, because in other impasse scenes where there's, like, I guess people talking shit, Crystal kind of does stick up for the person they're talking about or she kind of doesn't say anything. But at the same time, I don't think she was being a bad friend to Garcel in this conversation. But I agree she could have done a little. bit more tough. Yeah, it's not so much that I think she was like throwing Garcel under the bus or anything. It just was like, I feel like the way we've seen her sort of speak on Erica's behalf has felt more,

more like caring and positive toward Erica, where she's kind of like, Erica feels this way about Sutton, you know, like she doesn't need a bandaid. She doesn't want blah, blah, blah, blah. Whereas like this felt a little bit more, like, I don't think Garcelle. would have loved what Crystal was saying about her, which is fine. I mean, that's what this show is. But, like, I was just surprised to hear her kind of speaking that way about Garza, like Garcell's relationships and things just because I don't know. I don't think she necessarily was wrong about Garcel, you know, being careful with who she considers friends and stuff.

But, like, I also don't think Garcel, like, doesn't have any friends. Because honestly, we see her bring more outside. friends on the show than most people do. Like I feel like she's always hanging out with someone else. We see her with the matchmaker this episode, which was nice. I like getting a little check in on, you know, her personal journey. I want to be friends with Garcel. I've said that many times before.

Oh, totally. If there was anyone in this cast that I want to just like hang out with, it would be Garcel because I feel like she like isn't like full of like bullshit. I was literally just going to say she's not fake. not calling like most of the other woman fake, but like she's, yeah, she's cool.

Would I love to meet and interact with Dereat? Do I think that would be a fun time? Sure. Yes. I would love to have, you know, lunch with her at Bucca de Pippo or something. But like Garcel,

I feel like in like real life, I'm like, oh, she would be cool to hang out with. Okay. Dereit. party planning has been like just remarkable. And she always, she's like, you know, she like was very jump quick to jump to be like,

if it wasn't COVID, like it would be a much bigger party, much bigger. We would be at warehouse or something. There would be 50 foot ladders. And the models would be on the ladders in the gowns. I'm like, DeReed, that sounds like somebody's going to fall to their death. Oh, it sounds like the actual photo shoot in sex in the city in the wedding gowns. Like that's what it was. Okay, I need to go back and make like a video compilation.

Der Reet's favorite party trope is there being a reveal behind some sort of curtain or fabric wall. I know she did that with her Beverly Beach storefront. I know she did that. There was one party where boy George was like behind a curtain. Yep. And this one. She told everyone there was a flood, right? Or she was doing work.

Because of the rain, she has, she has all the models standing in the dresses behind these windows. And she, like, reveals the curtain. But then the models just come in the room. I thought they were going to, like, stay in their little enclosure. I know. I honestly thought she did a really good job. Like, it was very sweet of her. And you could tell she actually was really, of all of her projects, I feel like she's actually really excited about this.

And her little, like, reading. cards like saying what all the names are and explaining it. Like she was she was wearing one of her dresses. Like it was very sweet. But what I was honestly more excited about was to see who each person brought to the to the party. Like we have not seen Sutton's boyfriend, Michael. Like I know.

I was trying to figure out sometime in the last couple weeks if they were still together. And I was having trouble because she doesn't post a lot of pictures with him or anything. So I'm like, I don't know. I'm hoping we get a reunion. an update because I'm like. Oh, true. But more importantly, like, Kathy brought her architect and like.

Also, I love that she just assumes that Doreet knows her architect. And she's like, no, but nice to meet you. It's not no way. And she'll see, I told you you love the architecture. She is so fucking funny. She just has, she has her architect like on speed dial that she's like, want to come to a party? Her arc.

Yeah, like, I don't, I don't. That's so, like, I've never heard of someone who. who just like has an architect in their life that they are like like lately right like most people bring like their hairstylist maybe somebody like I feel like anybody on the personal team like assistant hairstylist you know makeup artist like all of those types of things make sense even maybe like a personal trainer or like a you know like architect is a new one for me but he seemed nice. Yeah.

I would go to a party. This is the kind of thing I wish we saw like Kim Richards or Camille or like Brandy at. Like I feel like this is the kind of event where it would be fun to have some little like surprise appearances. I guess maybe in COVID times they're trying to like limit the number of people that are there. But I'm like this would have been a fun event to have like I guess Camille probably wouldn't have gone to Brandy's to Doreet's party. Oh, speaking of Brandy, it would have been nice to have, to have Brandy there, too. Imagine? Like, just they had a party and they didn't tell any of the housewives who was coming and they just sent sent in random older housewives.

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come on in. She was like, you look beautiful. Come on in. And like, we, I was actually very surprised because Erica's the same person to like not even acknowledge the person's presence. But she was like friendly to Sutton. I almost feel like now, so she says, uh, the door is closed, which gave me very real housewives of Atlanta vibes. Um, I almost feel like now that she, now that they have basically decided they are not going to make an effort with each other. that maybe makes it easier to be kind of vaguely polite and to like be cordial because there's not like a there's not this question of like okay so like when are we going to talk like we have stuff to work through like if I feel like there's somebody that I am never going to have a relationship with again and I see

them it doesn't like raise my heart rate to be like hey it's like you're a stranger and you're just you know right it's like the difference between like if I'm if I like have a crush on someone and I'm like texting them about something you know I'm like overthinking it I'm like what am I going to say how should I respond do I use an emoji all of this stuff but like if I if I'm like no longer into that person and I need to text them for whatever reason it's just like send the text ask the question like right I don't see them texting anytime but I mean I don't go to that many like wedding dress reveal parties What? I went to one last weekend.

But yeah, Doreet and Garcel, you know, have some words again at this party. I feel like Doreet is, I feel like she is kind of reaching a little bit with Garcel. I feel like she's trying to, I feel like she's trying to turn this into a bigger thing than it is. And Garcel, I think, is just really good at sort of not taking the bait that she's like, you know, Doreet, I've said stuff to your face in the past. I'm happy to continue saying stuff to your face. But like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, like, turn this into some bigger fight than it is. Like, I think Garcel doesn't love Doreet. Like, I don't think she's really her kind of person. And I think she is annoyed by Doreet, but, like, Garcel doesn't want to spend her whole night having a feud with Doreet.

Like I don't think she really, I don't think it's worth the time for her. And I think she's perfectly happy to say that. Absolutely. And I think they both were going back and forth. Doreet was like, I just feel like she's still making comments. And then Garcel was like, I don't, like, it's not affecting me. Like they both have different like outlooks on the situation. But Garcel said like my favorite line of all time and to her face.

And she said, am I not allowed to have my own. an opinion. Because I say something and you don't agree with it, that doesn't, and I literally stand by this. It doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means you didn't, you didn't want to hear it, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to say it. This whole idea of Garcel feeling like she's an outsider with the group. I think the other women, especially Kyle and Derreet, have, and maybe Renna a little bit too, have sort of taken this personally, that they're like, that they take it as some sort of accusation that they, They've been exclusionary or been mean to Garcel.

And Garcell's like, honestly, it's not that deep. It's my feeling. Like, that's how I feel. She's allowed to happen. Yeah, this is something that happens in real life and all the time on Bravo shows that it's like, she's not accusing you of anything. She's saying that whatever has happened, this is the feeling that she's been left with. Whereas the other women, I think, are making it about them more.

and they're like, I feel like I've been a good friend to her. And it's like, okay, maybe you have, maybe you haven't. That's how you feel. Right. And I think there could be a bigger conversation of like, Garcel, let's work together to figure out how we can make you feel more accepted by the group. But for them to just get defensive and be like, oh, well, I don't feel that way about you. It's like, okay, great. You're not on the same page, clearly.

Right. And I also think in this scene seeing like Rina and Erica sitting off at the table by themselves, like kind of judging the situation from afar, it's very telling about how Rina feels about her relationship with Garcel at this point. Because like she is not interested in getting involved at all. And it's like, okay, like guess you're not really friends. I don't know. Like maybe like stick up for her a little bit. I don't know. Yeah.

like Renaud was like, should we go over there? And Erica, Erica wasn't even blinking an eye. She's like, I'm not doing that. And Renaud was like, okay, I'm going to like, Renna felt safer over there, knowing she wasn't going to get involved and whatever. And I agree, like,

you can pick and choose your battles, but like you hear what's going on over there. And you are in the middle of figuring out if you're good friends with Garcell or not. So just like, right. And Renaud's whole thing. I guess she feels it's better for Renna to not say anything, and get herself in one of her sticky situations again.

Right, yeah, it's just a little, it's interesting to see how Rina sort of evaluates whether or not there's an injustice being done, as she says, and decides whether to get involved. Because I feel like, you know, we've seen her for several years on this show, and I think she is very selective about when she chooses to kind of like have this moral compass. And I think it is definitely a look that she has chosen this season that Erica is the one who is in need of, you know, sort of moral defense. Whereas like Garcel clearly is just should fend for herself and doesn't need any help.

And it's like, okay, like if you want to stick up for Erica, that's fine. But like the Garcell situation is totally separate. Like you could you could also get involved with that. I'm really, I'm really curious to see how things go with Garcel and Lisa at the reunion. Because I feel like they are, obviously, like, other conflicts have taken up more space this season. Like all the Erica stuff, you know, the stuff with Doreep. But like, I feel like Garcel and Rina, there's just like a lot of, a lot of baggage there. And I'm curious to see if that's unpacked.

I agree. and there's also so much more to come like in this season. Like we even see next week. Next week's episode looks really good. Like there's even more arguments and fights and I was like, oh my God, I can't.

But, God, these ladies just bring it, don't that. These gals. These gals. Just bring it. And P.K.

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