Mention It All - Get Us Out Of Newport Beach (RHOC Finale, Southern Charm)
Episode Date: January 15, 2021It’s a week full of finales, as Dylan and Bari recap RHOC and the first half of the Southern Charm finale (whatever that means). Things in OC are bleak: Gina and Shannon’s relationship is on the r...ocks, Braunwyn gets yelled at for living in a conservative neighborhood, and Elizabeth tells some more cringeworthy lies. Over in Charleston, Austen and Madison’s toxic breakup spiral continues, and Leva struggles to get everyone to understand what Kathryn did wrong. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mention It All.
A Bravo by Betch's podcast.
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With Dylan Hafer.
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And Barry Rosenfeld.
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Everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Mentioned All podcast.
I'm Dylan Hafer.
And I'm Barry Rosenfeld.
And happy Friday, everybody.
Wow.
Someone has a lot of energy today.
It is not me.
It's like very cold in my apartment right now.
So I'm like very much in bed while we're recording.
I watched Southern Charm this morning.
I had a nice little iced coffee, you know.
You went for your walk?
I didn't.
No, I didn't go for a walk this morning.
Wait, but I thought you go get your iced coffee.
No, I was an adult and I bought a big bottle of cold brew at the grocery store.
Wow.
And so.
Okay.
You prepped for this day.
You prepped for this.
I like going to get my coffee, but I also like having the option of not needing to go get my coffee.
That being said, I'm very bad about keeping, because I only do iced coffee.
So I'm like, I don't, I can't just make the coffee pot.
Like, it's not my, that's not my destiny.
The peasants that make the coffee pots in the morning.
Make the coffee pot is like not the correct way to say that, I guess.
But you know what I mean.
I can't just have like a cup of hot coffee and be like good to go.
That's not my not my journey.
Okay. I'm having hot.
You're no, listen, I'm having hot coffee right now.
I can't drink out of a straw because of my dental work that I've had for 10 days.
So it's preventing me from having ice coffee.
Can I drink ice coffee without a straw?
Absolutely.
But it's just like, no, you need the straw.
You need it.
The people, the people who listen to this show and don't have any other context are going to think your mouth is like falling off.
My ongoing dental work.
It's like a two-year construction project.
I'm sorry, not to make this about me,
but if you have been listening,
I sound a lot better.
Like, I'm in a way better mood.
Like, I'm ready to go.
You can totally tell what I'm not feeling myself,
and I was ill this week.
So here we go.
Barry and I were on a Zoom meeting together on Tuesday afternoon,
and I actually thought she was asleep.
She was not.
But the vibe check has improved,
I would say, in the last three days.
But maybe not so much with Real House Boys of Orange County, which I would say had a nice and sleepy finale this week.
Like, okay, I think in the beginning of the season, we called it a snooze fest.
But like, out of any finale in history, it was a try hard finale.
We've discussed this.
Like it, oh my God, when I always say we discussed it, I always feel like the listeners feel like left out because like we discussed it prior.
But usually we don't.
We just have little like thoughts and we save it.
the episode. I will text. I only text you during an episode if there's something that I like need to like vent about. I'm like, oh my God. This episode to me just, it didn't have like finale energy. Nothing felt like nothing felt like a culmination. And I know they can't have a big party or be on a trip or anything like that because of COVID. But it's like that I don't know. Like the drama is just not that compelling. I don't know.
So we start with Gina and Emily are meeting and talking about this whole stuff with Shannon
and how Shannon says that Gina didn't check on her.
And then there's the stuff about John.
And basically, like Shannon just seems like she's kind of a mess right now.
Okay.
But did any of you have a flashback to this happening when Tamara was on the show?
Because I did.
I was like, this happened with Tamara and Shannon where she was constantly complaining about Shannon
and not asking about her,
but always being there for her at like her midnight phone calls
and her breakdowns and everything.
And so by Gina saying this,
I was like, wow,
like this is a reoccurring event.
But Shannon to me is a type of person who just like needs a friend to lean on
when like she's going through something,
which I think she's now found in Gina.
But you can never trust the Gina and Emily show.
Like they're always talking about someone,
aka Shannon.
I think there's nothing wrong necessarily with being a friend who is like a little more needy.
And that definitely is Shannon.
But also if you are being a friend to that person, it's acceptable for you to like check in with yourself and be like, I don't think I'm getting out of this what I need from this friendship.
And I feel like Shannon seems like kind of an exhausting person to be friends with.
But also there's this weird dynamic in her relationship with John where clearly Shannon has a.
Shannon has told her that, you know,
they're having issues or they're drinking too much
or John is controlling or whatever.
And she'll say this and then the next day,
Gina's like, okay, like blah, blah, blah.
This is what you told me.
And Shannon is like almost mad at her for bringing it up.
And I think this is something that is honestly,
I don't want to be like presumptuous about Shannon's relationship,
but it kind of sounds like your like classic emotionally abusive situation
where it's like if you're in that situation,
maybe sometimes you can talk about it,
but if you're still in it,
you can't always be like super honest with yourself
about what's going on.
Right.
Like you think she doesn't want to be 100% honest
about her relationship with John?
Is that what you're saying?
Not that she doesn't want to be,
but I think like sometimes when you're still in a situation,
you have to like tell yourself something.
And so like she might have a moment
where she is like really.
honest with herself and like telling Gina what's going on.
But then it would make sense to me that the next day she might not really be able to like
focus on that because she's just trying to like be okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I hope for Shannon and John from what we've seen, they look super cute together.
Their families are cute.
Like I hope Shannon seems in a way better place.
It's so crazy when you think back to like Shannon's wild seasons and you're like,
wow she came out of that like really on top but so yeah i don't know i don't i think that
shannon and gina are just very different this always happens they're in different age brackets
they don't have a lot in common and they could be like acquaintances or friends of the show but to
get deep like that i just don't know i don't know i don't know i could be wrong but shannon is like
pushing 60 and Gina, I think, is still in her 30s.
Like Addison, Ray and Courtney. What the hell's going on?
Yeah, like, there is a, there is a pretty decent age gap between them.
Shannon, we have even more stuff about Shannon's daughter going to college and Shannon's
really sad that she didn't get to have her prom and her Debbie Topball and that that's the thing that
we're supposed to be out. Yeah, I was like, wait, what kind of toast is this? You didn't do this. You
didn't do this, you didn't do this, but you will do great things. They all look to each other.
You'll do great things at Baylor in my product coat that I'm giving you that's like 20 years old,
you know, Sophie's going to have a great time at college, I'm sure. Good luck to you, Sophie.
Let's just say I didn't cry at this sendoff the way I did at Riley's. Okay, so then Elizabeth
has the therapist over. I love that they're like, so we got to.
tested so we can do therapy in my house.
I'm like, you know, everybody else could just do this
over Zoom. Yeah, also,
that's happened in every other show
and episode, too. They're like, everyone got tested, right?
So, like, we don't need to wear a mask.
Like, right?
You didn't do it while you're on TV for one
hour. On Southern Charm last night, they're like, we booked to the
private shopping so we don't have to wear the mask.
And it's like, I get it. I think.
I've been watching TV for a while now.
We'll talk about Southern Trump.
But also, they were like, you stay on that side of the store and I'll
stay here. I was like, guys,
it's not, this isn't how, let's all
take a universal, like, have a Zoom session and everyone can just like, I do love, yeah, it's funny
to be on these shows when people will show up and instead of hugging, they like do the elbow
thing to each other and then they're just like hanging out together for hours with no masks.
It's like, what do you, you could have just hugged at that point, like, whatever.
Yeah. So we need to talk about this, unless there's any other point you want to make about
Elizabeth's therapy because I don't. I think, I mean, I honestly, like, it's nice to see her kind
opening up. I wish we would have seen this toward the beginning of the season. Right. And like learn a
little bit more about her. Right. Because we're, I do feel like we're peeling back some of the layers
about, you know, maybe some of the things that she isn't truthful about she's doing it for a reason.
And maybe she needs to kind of get to the bottom of that. But at this point, it's like,
I don't want her to come back next season. So I don't really feel invested in her journey.
Right. I not to be rude. But like, completely agree. And in the back of my mind, I'm always like,
you know what, maybe she'll come back, they'll have her come back and be a breakout star her second season.
I doubt it highly, but that's an option.
Girl, winter is so last season.
And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes.
Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs.
You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders.
That perfect hang on the patio sundress.
Those sandals you can wear all day and all night.
And you've had enough of shopping from your couch.
Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope.
It's time for a little in-person spring treat.
It's time for a trip to Ross.
Work your magic.
So we see Emily hosting a party because apparently she was a party planner and she, like,
loves hosting parties.
So she's hosting this party on the beach because they haven't been able to do anything because it's COVID.
So she's still going to host a party.
And it looked beautiful, to be honest.
like all the women were there.
Some of their husbands came late.
Others didn't.
It was,
it was again,
one of these beach parties
we've learned over the years
from every show.
They're not what you expect them to be.
Like,
you have to have an end goal,
either be like a chill lounge hangout
or like a meal or like,
are we arguing,
are we setting the tone?
Are we like talking about stuff?
Are we just like clear?
I don't know.
It was a mess to me.
And it was not,
I don't know,
it just wasn't fun.
Well, yeah, it's weird.
Like, they're all hanging out in this, like, patio area.
And Bronwyn gives everyone these, like, personalized masks, which were, like, not as funny as they wanted them.
Yeah, because you got to find they were.
Were they supposed to be digs or were they supposed to be, like, funny?
Well, yeah, like, some of them were funny that it's like, oh, like, oh, like, Elizabeth is the richest bitch in Newport Beach.
And, like, very fun.
Okay, personally, I never again want to hear any reference to fun, Emily.
Like fun Emily doesn't exist.
It's a figment of her imagination.
It's not, I don't know.
Like, I'm just over it.
But so it's like that sets the tone.
But then it's like none of these women actually like Bronwyn.
So it's like, okay, she's giving this gift.
Also, we know they don't like masks either.
So like whatever.
But then they like, they like make their way over to the beach.
Which you're not allowed to bring alcohol to.
like Shannon and G, oh my God.
Like, why are you even there?
Like, obviously, like, you don't need alcohol to have a good time, but it's like, this
is a housewives party.
Like, clearly these women want to drink too.
No, but they, like, they actually, like, made them leave their, I guess you can't drink
on the beach, but I'd be like, hell no, that's why we all have flasks.
Right.
Like, bring a water bottle.
It's not that big of a deal.
Or like a solo cup.
I don't know.
But, yeah, so Shannon kind of, like, confronts Gina.
and she basically is doing the same thing
that Gina was talking about
at the beginning of the episode
where she's like,
I told you all,
yes,
I told you all this stuff about my relationship with John,
but like my relationship with John is fine.
And it's like,
I,
again,
like,
I don't want to,
you know,
get mad at her for what she's going through or anything,
but like,
you can get why Gina would be frustrated with this
because she's like,
I don't know how you want me to help you.
Like,
what more can I do?
Like,
you're not being reset.
when I do try to help.
Right.
Well, we've always got that from Shannon where it's, you are on eggshells because you don't
want to say the wrong thing.
She's that type of person to me where it's like you say one thing where you are being
helpful and giving advice and she takes it the wrong way.
And then you're, you're hesitant to help again because it's like, you know what?
It's like when it goes to anybody, don't ask my opinion if you don't want it.
Okay.
Just don't.
Yeah.
Okay.
Can we talk about this moment where I don't, I don't, I,
I wasn't even, I like looked away for a second and then all of a sudden Elizabeth is talking about how she's going to call Vince Neal.
Oh my God. I had such secondhand embarrassment. She was like, yeah, I want she first of all, she said she wanted to set him up, set them up or just be friends. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I know. I know Vince Neil. I know Vince Neil. I know for my music company. Like I can just call him. No big deal. Oh my God. That was she called in a random. First of all, didn't even say who it was. And apparently this person had this phone number for 11 years. And it was. Oh, is this. Did you just get the, is this a new? No.
I've had this number for 11 years.
Who are you trying to call for?
Oh, I just wanted to talk to Vince Neal.
Like, girl, Vince Neal is from Motley Crew, which Gina didn't know either.
But it's just like so uncomfortable.
Yeah, but then in Gina in her interview, she was like, okay, so what else shouldn't we believe?
Because I'm sorry, that was a lot of confidence for her to just whip out her phone and be like, let me call him right now.
And it wasn't, no.
Speaking of Elizabeth's like wacky bullshit.
it because this is the last time we're seeing it.
We are so mean.
Her Ferrari is parked down the street and they're like, wait, I thought that was for charity.
And she's like, well, eventually, I have to drive it for a year first.
It's like, what?
It's, she is one of those where it's all to impress.
I've always said if you have the money, you don't talk about it.
It's all I know about her.
It's literally all I know about her.
Elizabeth, if you want to go to lunch one day and we can talk like and find out other things
about each other, I'm down for that.
But right now, I only know about your money.
And I don't care about it.
But if we do go to launch, you're paying.
So the finale
ends basically with
Bronwyn talking about
how she doesn't like
how conservative Newport Beach is.
And basically,
the other women,
mainly Kelly, are like yelling at her.
They're like, yeah,
like, if you wanted a liberal
neighborhood, you should have moved to Laguna.
Like, why do you move to Newport Beach?
I grew up in Laguna.
Why would I want to move back there?
And I was like, is this really the argument that's happening in the finale?
Like, first of all, it's like, why is this, like, a conflict on the show?
But also it's like, why would you yell at someone?
Like, Bronwyn isn't saying, like, nobody should be conservative.
She's saying, like, it's hard for me sometimes living in such a conservative neighborhood.
And, like, Kelly.
I think they're just at their wit's end with Bronwyn.
That's why.
Kelly is saying the tolerant is the most intolerant, which is, like, classic.
I feel like classic like All Lives Matter, whatever, like propaganda.
But it's like, yeah, like clearly none of these women like Bronwyn.
I have mixed feelings about Bronwyn.
Like I think she has there are like some things I really like about her.
She frustrates me other times.
But like it's clear that nobody in this group actually cares for her.
Yeah.
And here's the thing.
Her sitting at a table with these group of women who she hasn't opened up to recently.
about her marriage and what's going on because she has said multiple times she still needs to figure it out.
I just get very uncomfortable.
So I can only imagine how she feels when all of them at once are like, what's going on?
Well, what's going on?
Are you in love with Charii?
Are you in love with Sean?
Like, that's not that that is not something like appropriate for that time.
She has to figure that out.
You can tell she's about to like explode because what she's going through is a lot.
And I granted, they can come back and be like, well, you're on or,
reality show. Okay, but things happen in your life
where you're not ready to like
talk about yet. So at that
side, I kind of feel bad
and feel for Bronwyn, but at the other
side, like, then you see her and her bedroom
as Shari and like, Sean comes in and she like,
they like ignore him. And I'm just like, oh my God,
this is so like weird.
And I will say, I'm not looking forward to this reunion.
Just because I feel like it's going to be
kind of painful with like
the whole Bronwyn dynamic. Like, I
just think obviously all these women
have been like, they've been like pretty outwardly mean to her on social media and like not
being shy about that.
And I just, I feel like it's going to be unpleasant.
I don't know.
We'll see.
It's only two parts, which I'm glad about.
Well, because you see at the beach where, where Elizabeth said she texted Bronwyn a really
nice message and she read it and all Bronwyn responded was thank you.
So then Bronwyn defended herself.
And she was like, did you tell them all the shit you were talking about me?
And she was like, no.
Elizabeth was like, no.
And so that like, you only.
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Watch only on Prime. Let's talk about Southern Charm. So this week was the first part of the two-part finale,
which apparently just means it's two episodes where it's two episodes where not that much happens in the
first one. Like this whole, obviously like the whole episode, like some stuff happened, but a lot of it was kind of
just setting up for, I guess, a lot of drama to happen at this party next week.
Yeah, I mean, I am glad that this episode basically started out with Madison being up front and apologizing for her behavior because I said this last week.
Like, she was very mean.
Like, she was mean to Austin.
And you could tell something was up, though.
So she did say that she apologized for her behavior, but being around Austin, like triggers.
basically, which we see for both of them.
Like they, and now it's affecting the group.
Like the two of them are bringing me back to like a high school relationship where you can't
go to the same house party because like someone's going to be seen talking to somebody else.
And it's just annoying because yet another episode of how hot Madison looks and it's just like
triggering for me.
Yeah, like totally they have that toxic energy that's affecting the group, which doesn't help
when it's compounded with Catherine's toxic energy affecting the group.
Like two factors are a lot.
It's weird though.
So Austin is like, okay, great.
So like, are you cool with me dating other people?
And she's like, no.
Like, I'll never be happy.
Like, I'll never, like, I'll never like want you to date another person.
It's like Madison.
Like, I understand that it's like weird to see your ex moving on or like dating someone else.
But in this situation, like, how is Austin supposed to win?
this situation. Like how, like, what is he supposed to do? And later in the episode, she's like,
with Vinita getting ready for this party. And she's totally like, oh, like, Austin's going to see me
in this outfit. And he's, he can't touch, but he's not going to know what to do. Like,
but, like, all she's thinking about is like, fucking with Austin. And it's like, you both need to
move on. Like, I think they're both doing a bad job of this. But like, Madison especially, like,
come on. I think that, yeah, you're right. Madison is.
rubbing it in his face and trying to get him to be like jealous.
Austin is just this poor kid still in love with her and he's not doing anything to like make her jealous or make her mad.
He's actually, he's simply just existing.
She doesn't like it.
It's like I'm sure Madison is coming at it from an emotional place too, but it's manifesting in more of like, uh, she calls, she said I was a bitch.
Like it's coming across in a bitchy way.
Whereas Austin like, it's more just like pure, pure like sadness.
I know.
And he admitted he's like, I'm still in love with you.
And I was like, no, Austin, I love you.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm excited to see the end there back and forth end.
Just because I feel like all season, we've kind of been on this like,
annoying roller coaster ride.
But the other, the other, like, main thing that we're dealing with this episode is sort
of the continued issue of Catherine's place in the group.
This scene with Catherine calling her friend Jackie is, was like really cringed.
me first of all.
First of all, Catherine is like,
she pulls a tag off her blazer
and then cracks open a can of coke
with her teeth.
And then is like browsing a baby gift
website because Thomas,
she read online that Thomas had
his baby a month ago. And I'm like,
girl, you don't have to send a gift
if you found out online a month
after the fact that he had his baby.
She also was like, I don't know,
like, are they siblings, like questioning it?
But the thing is about her is,
something's, something's off.
I don't, I don't appreciate or enjoy watching her on TV.
I feel like her thoughts are all over the place.
Like something is not right.
And, you know, for a little bit, I was like, I was never defending her actions, but I was
like, okay, maybe she'll learn from this.
But like, she is like talking.
I'm not, I'm sorry.
She, it is like watching or talking to a wall when she's on the screen.
Yeah.
And she basically is like, sorry, not sorry.
Again, we still, I mean, we haven't seen her really like own anything she did.
And now she's like saying that she's mad at all the other people in the group.
And I think especially the women for not kind of like speaking out on her behalf and saying that she's not racist.
Speaking on your own behalf.
Right.
Like if you, she has a platform like she like Catherine specifically hasn't said the right things.
So it's like if I'm like Leva or Venita or like anyone else in this situation,
why would I go out on a limb and support someone who doesn't even seem that interested in actually like fixing the problem?
And so Leva obviously is kind of still having a lot of issues with this.
And we see her, she's talking with Danny about it at the start.
store, which like you were saying, they're like, quote unquote, social distance shopping. And it's like,
that's not a thing. You're like running around the store. Also, you guys have been together in
public settings before. So I don't know why this shopping was different than any other. Yeah. I don't know.
We've seen a lot of shopping scenes this season, which is like, okay, like, I guess they have to pick out
clothes, but like usually we don't see it all the time. But so then at this party, first of all this
house is so weird.
It's Pringle's family friend's house.
It's a really nice house, but it's like, why are we here?
I don't know.
It's a little unclear to me, but basically Leva gets there before most of the group, and
she's talking to Shep and basically saying, like, I don't understand why you guys are
coddling, Catherine, like, she's done all this stuff.
And, like, you are known for not coddling people.
So why all of a sudden are you, you know, sticking up for Catherine?
And he's like, well, you know, like, I've gotten in trouble for that in the past.
And like, I'm trying not to cut to like not to be hard on people.
And it's like, okay, but there's a difference because this is the one situation where it's like truly warranted.
Like, it's not the same.
He's he's trying to be just not involved, which is.
Right.
One side.
And then Leva said by him acting that way, that is like his, like, his, like, he's, like,
his white privilege. And so
I understand
that Shep is like
Catherine's not my responsibility.
That's kind of how I saw him. He was like, I don't want any
part of this. But at the same time, we have
seen that Shep is actually someone that
Catherine like listens to and leans on and talks to.
So I think that's what they're hoping for.
They're like, Shep, maybe you can like
talk some sentence to this girl. But the two,
seeing Leva and Shep
talk like I was telling you earlier, like I want to see more
fun from Leva and it's unfortunate that she's had to be like this motherly figure this whole
season and like. Yeah, like I agree. Like I think she's, I've agreed with almost everything that
she's been saying. It's maybe sometimes not the delivery, but like in general, I am like team Leva
95% of the time. But it is, it feels like she's so much more mature than like most of the other
people on this show that it's like, I, I appreciate that energy, but I also would love to
see just like more of a fun, you know, like, it, it sucks that she's kind of been put in
this position where she has to be like the one person in the cast really like holding Catherine
accountable for this. Right. And she did say she doesn't believe in cancel culture because
there's no growth in that. Like, right. And so I feel like she is there to help no matter what.
she's like, I'm literally just here to like make sure you, you learn from your mistakes and
like you're not. And but the thing is, they're not, listen, it's really complicated to watch.
Like it's, it's so Catherine wants no part in anything. We've seen this from the day one with her.
She doesn't care about anything. So I don't know. It's hard to defend someone like that.
So yeah, props to Leva for hanging on to this long. Right. So then the rest of the, the
people show up and it's interesting because she's talking to Pringle and Craig is there.
And Pringle is basically like, you know, like leave it alone. Like it's not that big of deal.
Like, why are you still concerned with it? And basically Lava tells them, apparently it's the first
they're hearing that it wasn't, it seems like the only thing that Craig and Pringle knew about was
the monkey emoji. And Leva's telling them how there were all these other DMs about like your
minority business isn't whatever like I don't like have them in front of me but all this stuff that
kind of compounded the like one DM the like emoji that it's like oh like maybe she didn't know what it meant
but it's like no she was like carrying on this whole thing and it's interesting that this whole time
apparently somebody like Craig has been kind of sticking up for Catherine without actually
understanding the depth of the situation and it's like yeah that's
classic like mediocre man behavior like come on yeah i mean i'm curious at that point to see where
it goes in the second episode of the season finale because maybe we'll see more of a reaction
but tbd on that i mean we also see we also see um i know guys i have like a crush on austin but
Austin has finally come to the conclusion that he is moving on for Madison.
Yeah.
That is also TBD because I don't believe it.
I appreciated Austin's phone call with his friend, Alexandra, who was like, you need to get off, like, leave the party.
You need to like be done.
Like no more of these like weird relationship convoes like just end it.
I loved though when he came to the party and he like, he could have said hi, but he kind of literally ignored Madison.
And then Madison is like, I'm not having any of that.
And she walked over to him and like asked him about it.
She's like, you said hi and walked by.
I was like, oh, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I've been team Austin since day one.
I'm sorry.
All these people are dummies.
Like just.
You're a bunch of dummy.
No, we love you.
No, we don't.
Quickly, let's say who our number one Bravo Lab in the group is.
Also, I realized we didn't do this yesterday.
So if you want to do somebody from Dallas or Salt Lake, feel free.
Okay.
really quick before we do this, I have to call out that we did see Patricia and Whitney.
And oh my God.
And she goes, can you help me with this in the green thing?
And she meant the green thing meant the messages part of her iPad.
Oh, yeah. Her message up.
I'm sorry.
That was just a little tidbit because I love them.
Okay.
My Bravo Leb.
Oh, you go first.
You know what?
I can't think you go first.
I'm going to go with Gina.
Weirdly, at the end of the season,
Gina's like the one person in OC that I actually feel like I have like positive feelings toward, which I never thought I would say.
Well, we'll also give Gina most growth for this season because in the beginning we were not having it.
Most growth in character and also in hair.
Yes. Okay. Yes. I am giving this is going to be a little bit of a shock, but I am giving my Bravo Lab to Craig this week.
not because he was clueless about with Catherine, like, ignore that part.
I loved the date he set up for him and Natalie.
I thought that was very sweet.
They haven't said, I love you yet, but he, he has moved on from Naomi.
He, he has great feelings for Natalie.
And, like, this date was one of the cutest things have ever seen.
So, and props, like, he's kind of, like, the narrator right now.
Like, Cam's shoes were big to fill.
I know.
That was weird to see.
Whatever.
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