Mention It All - GG Takes Out The Trash (Shahs of Sunset)

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

Bari and Dylan return from the weekend to break down the feud between Kelly Dodd and Golnesa. They discuss how Kelly’s style of fighting was ultimately her downfall, and why you don’t mess with GG. Then, they recap this week’s episode of Shahs, where Destiney’s issues with Mike erupt at her Halloween party. You can buy SkinnyPop at retailers nationwide, or go to the Shop Now page on skinnypop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, though. And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep week. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer.

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. Welcome back. I hope everyone had a fabulous weekend. A fabulous weekend. And it feels like it was like a, I guess it was a long weekend. We had Friday off. Yeah. I was going to say it feels like it was the long weekend and it literally was.

It was in fact. But I feel like I just have to share that I saw like my friends, family this weekend. But on Saturday night, me and a few of my girlfriends, like, sat at her kitchen table and just drank and talked and laughed for hours. And I just got home at like 2.30 in the morning. And we didn't even do anything. And I feel like those are, that's what I miss. Like those are the like nights that I miss. And I'm glad that like it's somewhat back.

So that's just. You have like a, you had like a Paulina and Destiny like sit down at the table and immediately take a shot of Don Julio. Yeah. That, that is funny. You brought that up because that is the one. thing of this episode last night of Shaz

that I couldn't wait to talk about for some it's like the most random but like it was like affecting me because I don't know it was a little shady boy boy boy oh laena June

oh my god we we actually have so much shah's stuff to talk about because we're going to get into obviously this week's episode but also this feud between Kelly Dodd and Golnessa, which has been quite the saga on Instagram.

I have to say, I was looking back through my camera role, which is just like 90% screenshots of random Bravo-related things. And that first, like, comment that Gigi made on the post about Kelly Dodd leaving the show when she was just like, yeah, like, yay, I'm glad she's gone. Sorry, not sorry. And she said, like, out with the ass in with the class. Like, it felt so just like random. It was like, oh, L.O.L. I guess Gigi isn't like a fan of Kelly join the club.

And to see where it like devolved into is. Oh, yeah. But also other Bravo Labs, which watch other Bravo shows. So like Gigi watches OC clearly or probably just sees Kelly's rants on Instagram. But Kelly just snap back. And it's funny because guys, I know this is crazy, but like you're allowed to have an opinion about like other people and other shows. So Gigi was a. 100% allowed to say what she said. It is funny when I enjoy seeing how and when Bravo Lebrides choose to comment on stuff that's happening in the Bravo universe because we've also seen in the last week the stuff going on

with Erica, a lot of people clearly don't really want to touch that. And in fact, we've seen some people supporting her like Candice posted this tweet yesterday about how like everybody's being so quick to judge her based on this. like thrown together documentary and like we don't know what she knew, which is true. But at the same time, it's like, it's interesting to me that somebody like Candace sees this Erica situation happening and it's like, let me defend her versus like nobody really, like we haven't really seen anybody like in the Bravo universe like say anything negative about Erica.

So it's interesting kind of when people choose to voice their videos. I think when something is a legal situation, people aren't quick to like say how they feel, but someone getting fired off a show, everyone's like, who, hell yeah. But also they announced, I know we're talking about shots, but I just remember speaking of that.

They announced the two New Jersey cast members, which is very exciting. Wait, they did. Yeah. A random. Who announced them? A rant. Someone reposted another Bravo account

with their cast. pictures in it. So like Bravo didn't, but like someone did. Oh, it's one of them. It's one of them is like Tiki Barber's ex-wife, right? Wait, so like I saw that a while ago, but then her, she wasn't on that

picture. So, all right, hold on, let us get the facts about that. It's not confirmed. Listen, I don't know. Don't, don't shoot the messenger. I just saw it on. No, it's not confirmed until Bravo confirms it. Like, yeah. You never know. Some of these

women who like film for the show could end up being like in the background of two episodes. We thought Michelle was going to be a housewife on New Jersey. And she was like, we did. I don't think I ever did. Yeah. No, she was filming with them all last season. Like obviously not. She wasn't on like some of the trips and stuff.

But like she, she, you know what? You never know. Like obviously we know like Heather DeBrow is like going to be a housewife next season. But it's when somebody's just kind of like rumored to be like filming with the cast, it's like you never. It's like the hunger games now. You can literally be filming halfway through the, a season. And they're like, well, we're actually,

you're not going to be a housewife anymore. Sorry. They're like, they're like, so technically you're not even going to be a friend of, but like you might still be in the background of three episodes. Thanks for the footage. And it's like,

excuse me. Okay. We're going to, we're going to give you the base pay. Thank you for your time. It's like when you like, take your meal coupon on the way out. Like when I used to first interview for jobs,

like when I was still in college, like trying to get ahead. And like all those like sales like cold call jobs were what like I would apply for. I feel like that's what everyone did. And it's like, okay, your base pays like $15,000 and like commission. It's like, well, what if I don't make any sale? They're like, well, that's what it is. And you have to fight for it. So that was like the.

Yeah, it's like. Yeah. Michelle Pace is going home with like $500 and a meal ticket. it. Okay, let's, so let's dive further into this Kelly and go and ask the thing. So basically, Gigi made this initial comment saying she was happy Kelly got fired. And then page six, because they are, you know, always on top of whatever mess is going on, reached out to Kelly and got a comment on this. And Kelly said, I don't know this woman. I don't watch this show. And, you know, I think that is, in the grand scheme of things,

not that crazy of a response. Same. That's kind of what I would expect Kelly to say because like, you know, Kelly's probably like, I was on housewives. This girl is on shas of sunset. You know, like,

I'm above that. But then some receipts kind of came back to bite her because Gigi posted this clip from a past OC reunion when one of the viewer questions was which non-housewives Bravo show the women would want to join.

And Kelly is the first person to answer and she goes, ooh, like, I would be on Shows of Sunset. Like, they seem fun. Like, they're crazy. Like, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, so Kelly very clearly knew, like, what Shaws of Sunset was. And then there was another Instagram comment

that Hannah from Below Deck Med posted. Less than a month ago, Kelly commented on one of MJ's posts about a new episode being like, I'll be watching. And so it's like, Kelly. Like, I believe that Kelly hasn't seen every episode of Shaz of Sunset, but I also, I believe that she knows who Gigi is. Okay. Yes. I am not. I feel like I've done this in the past where I've like kind of thought

about something Kelly has said. And I'm like, oh, maybe she didn't mean it that way. But like, this is a perfect example. Like, Dylan, I agree with you. Or like she probably like didn't know at first when she said it. And like the thing is she might not know. who Gigi is. Now she does, but when she was first asking and like, you actually don't watch a show religiously, like maybe she truly at that moment didn't know who she was. But at this point, now I feel like she took this information and ram with it. And now Kelly's just making a mockery like she usually does. But at the same time, like, what if someone was talking about Shaz of Sunset, like, and Lily Gle, she's not on the show anymore? Like someone might not know who that is.

Granted, I know Gigi still is on the show. So whatever. But. seeing Bravo Lebs fight with each other is one of the funniest things. Like I saw Gigi be like, I'm like number one on my show. Like I was on before you were. I'll be here long after you go. So she posted this video. It was funny because like Gigi I felt like was being very deliberate in like how she

was throwing shade. And it all was like very kind of, um, I would say like well worded clapbacks and stuff. Like she's talking about, you know, like Ms. Dodd. Like I you got fired from your show like I'm still on my nine seasons baby like I'm an OG. And then like every time Kelly responds, she's just getting like more and more unhinged, which is kind of how Kelly tends to do these things. And so it's like, Gigi is still over here. Like she's like, oh like Elijah went to bed early.

So I got time, baby girl. Meanwhile, Kelly's like, who are you? Like I don't want to talk about you like blah blah. And it's like Kelly. You're not you're not winning this. was just so confident and like trying as fast as she could. I can like see her like behind her phone and trying to like fight with everyone about like, we'll see, we'll see about her getting fired.

It was like, no, Kelly, like we all know you're getting fired. Like, why don't you know that yet? And she did. I think she really, I think I feel like she was in denial until maybe even still. But like the last like 15 months, she was like, you'll see. I'll be back. And it's like, oh, oops. Yeah.

So going against Golness. I think is like, that's not going to happen for you. That's probably the strongest evidence that she didn't really know her because anybody who does know her would be scared. But so like the real like issue here is when Kelly started, she made fun of Gomes's name, like mispronouncing it on purpose. And a couple people when I posted about this were DMing. They were like maybe she doesn't know how to say her name.

And it's like she literally typed it out also as like goulash. Like she was fully trying to make fun of her. And then she also made fun of her hearing loss. Golnessa has like, is like, has a pretty major hearing loss. Like she uses hearing aids. She reads lips.

And Kelly literally said to page six, like glad she confirmed she's deaf and dumb. And it's like, oh, that is not good. She really, like, she just not puts her foot in her mouth. She just shoves it down her throat, like so, far because it's crazy.

I remember saying this in the past. Like she, if she just, she just always goes one step further. And it's exactly what she did for this. That is like too far. And you're right. Those people that DM didn't like said about the name.

Yeah, you would think that. But it's, it's the way she said it. And she knew she was mispronouncing it on purpose. And that's just like, disgusting. She didn't,

like, pronounce it wrong. She like made fun of it. Right. I think it's the kind of thing where like Kelly, with someone else that's like maybe you would, you know, not rush to judgment or give them the benefit of the doubt or kind of like keep a neutral side. But it's like Kelly has shown us

over and over again that like she doesn't mean well. She isn't harmless. You know, like I feel like that's the kind of thing where I love a good villain on Bravo. Like we all love. Yeah. You know, like there's people who we love to hate. There's people who are like fun villains who you kind of still root for at the end of the day. But it's like there's a line. And I feel like, that's why Kelly was so hard to kind of get, like, you know, kind of, whatever. Well, also the fact that- Kelly literally, like, activates me. I don't know.

But it's like, that's why Kelly was so difficult to kind of deal with over the last years because it wasn't fun. Like, it's not like there were, in the past it was. And then it got to a point where it was like, I don't want to do this anymore. Right. And it's also a different story when you make fun of someone. that they aren't in charge. You know what I mean?

Like, you can't make fun of something that someone's not responsible for. So, like, Gigi doesn't want to have hearing loss. It's actually, like, affects a lot of things. And, like, she is, like, doing things to help. But, like, you can't make fun of something like that. It's, like, just gross. And, like, come on.

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So let's get into the Shaz episode because this season, man, they are, I feel like the first couple weeks I wasn't really sure how I was feeling about it. And I am like fully on board now. I'm on the train. Oh my God. And complete opposite. I thought this season is so good and it is. But last night's episode I actually thought was kind of boring.

Yeah, there was a lot of, I will say like there were a few different scenes that I felt like we're kind of, it was like too many like one-on-one catch-ups after this baby party, the whatever, because it was like, okay, we got Shams and Elijah. And so MJ and Golnessa were talking about the party. And then Reza and Gigi were talking about the party. And then Reza and MJ were talking about the party. So like I think the overall storylines here are really compelling. but there is like a little too much,

a little too much like, okay, let's meet up and debrief about what happened last episode. And it's like they don't need to because we do it on our podcast. Like, they don't need to do it. I think we can all agree that it was not great what happened at Elijah's party that Reza kind of acted like a fool. And obviously, Gigi is not going to be happy that there was drama at the party. I feel like we shouldn't, we don't really need a whole scene of like, you know, her explaining to MJ that she wasn't happy that there was drama.

So I do think it's interesting though because, you know, Reza shows Gigi this house, which it's funny to see Reza like in real estate mode because I feel like we forget he quote unquote has a job. But like I actually totally am on the same page with Gigi where she's like, why do you care so much about what Mike has going on in his personal life? Like, why can't you just let it go? Like, why are we talking about that? It's one thing to talk about it in the first place, but why are we bringing it up again at my baby's party? Yeah, and it's weird when someone is so invested in something that's going on with someone else's life that has nothing to do with them.

It's very strange. It's one thing if you, if it's affecting you to the point where you're like, I actually just can't be friends to this person anymore because the shit they do is too much. But it's, that's not what I'm seeing from Reza. He's just like, he's just like kind of being really like, trying to involve other people and trying to like start more problems with it. And it's like just either let it go or you move on because you know what this kind of reminded me of is on is Beverly Hills how Rina like can't get over what happened with Denise. And so I feel like Gigi is kind of like a Garcell in that in that moment where she's like, why why does this affect you?

Like it doesn't affect you. Why do you feel like it affects you? like why do you care so much? And I don't think Reza really has a good answer for that. Like I understand why he maybe doesn't like Mike or why he doesn't trust Mike, but in the sense of like truly why do you care? I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

I have the answer. No. So what I think is because, oh my God, I forgot to tell you. So what I think is happening is that Reza is seeing all of these other relationships actually move forward. including his own with MJ. Like he is like, yes, everyone is like kind of growing up and maturing and letting things go.

And I feel like he like is holding on to that one thing where he can like maybe come out on top almost and like make someone else like bad. Oh, yeah, see? You like like like so I think that's like kind of what's happening. And it's just like, I don't know. I can't say let it go enough because it's like you're happily married or are you.

You're moving on with MJ or are you. because you just start another fight. And now you're trying to start shit with Mike and Gigi. So it's like, I don't know, you kind of are the common denominator. It is interesting. Like, I do agree that I think Reza almost sees an opportunity to kind of like be better than feel like he's above Mike. Because he's, we see later at this Halloween party when they're playing this game that it's like he's criticizing Mike's personal life. He's criticizing Mike's, you know, like shady business, whatever.

and saying he would marry for money. Like he clearly feels kind of superior to Mike in a way that I don't know if it's like maybe he's right. Like maybe all of these things he's saying about Mike are accurate. But the fact that he kind of is using it in that way, it's like, oh, Reza, just like tone it down a little bit. I will say you were saying about like happily married. I was talking to my friend yesterday who hasn't watched any of this season and she was like,

I can't believe Reza and Adam are still together. like I'm just surprised. And I was thinking like, Reza and Adam haven't had like any kind of problems this season. Their relationship isn't really even a storyline at all. So it does feel like they've kind of gotten to a good place, at least as much as they're showing us. So that's nice.

Yeah, I didn't know where you were going with that if you were like, but I didn't know. It is, it is very nice to see good relationships on Bravo. Like we don't want everyone breaking up. Like, we don't want that. And, you know, but not all relationships can be good. And this episode, it really seems like in question how long Paulina is going to put up with Mike's shit. Because she goes over to Destiny's house for this, like, girls night.

I know, the night you wanted to talk about. They're shooting tequila right off the bat. And it feels very strange. So Paulina and Destiny, I guess, have gotten close. more recently. That's what I want to talk about. Like, what the hell is going on? Destiny's like,

Paulina and I have been friends for a while and it flashes to a scene that's like one month ago. And it's like, okay, so you've been friends like this season. Okay. So that's literally what I want to talk about because it's like,

no, I cannot be the only one who is like, I don't think they've been friends for that long. And that's fine if they have or haven't. But the way they made it seem like this girl's night is if they have been, they went to high school together, that you have sleepovers. And it was like, Destiny was like, where are the kids?

And Pauline is like at their dads this weekend. And they were just like sitting on the floor. I was like, it seems like you guys just met. And this is like the like fifth time you're hanging out and you're like going to get drunk. But you know what? Girl, power. I love it. So I totally feel like this is a friendship of convenience for destiny because we know she is

not Mike's biggest fan despite her saying that she, you know, is friends with both of them. but I feel like last season Paulina was really just on the show as Mike's girlfriend. Like I felt like Paulina was kind of like off limits a little bit. Like she wasn't really engaged in the group dynamic so much. Whereas this season, it kind of feels to me like Destiny is like pulling Paulina closer because she, you know, kind of wants to be in the loop about what's going on with Mike. I agree. So, you know, Pauline's.

Alina tells her that this is actually like the 10th time Mike has been caught sexting other women, which is, I mean, I understand. You let it get to double digits. I understand relationships are complicated. Everybody has their own whatever that works for them. But it's like, girl, 10 times. 10 is unacceptable. Also, I'm sorry. She says that for him, it turns him on.

It's like watching, that's like the equivalent of watching porn for him. I'm sorry, that is not the same. No, no, no, yeah, no. Porn and cheating are not the same because porn, like some couples encourage it, actually. Others are like, I don't want you watching that. But majority of what I've heard is that people enjoy watching porn or want their partner to, but actually text it. You don't actually go ahead and text the porn star that's in the porn now, you know?

Watching porn is a very one-way street. it's like somebody makes the content and then it's there and all you do is click play on the video you're not like having a conversation where you're getting invested with another human so it's like I mean

I don't think Paulina sees it as the same thing either but I think she's trying to sort of rationalize why she is kind of putting up with it and you know I don't know really where Destiny and Paulina's relationship is super grounded. But I do kind of agree with Destiny when she's like, girl, you deserve better.

Like, Mike is not clearly not like getting it done for you. And, you know, Paulina kind of does this, you know, justification of like every other area. It's a 10 out of 10. And it's like, yeah, but if you feel like you're basically getting cheated on every other week and having to catch him sexting these women, like it doesn't matter if every other area is a 10 out of 10. Okay, and also if it does turn him on and that's something that she's aware about,

then that's not something he would be doing behind her back. Do you know what I mean? She would almost be more involved in that aspect of it where she was like, or like, yeah, it's just very weird. And also, I totally agree. I think Destiny is trying to get information to which we see later on in the episode. But like, and it's almost like, are you taking advantage of your friendship with Paulina. Like I get it. Girlfriends are trying to help girlfriends. Like you obviously want the best for her.

We've all been there. You want your friend out of a toxic relationship. But at a certain point, like mind your own goddamn business, you know, like it doesn't concern you. I think what she's saying is correct. But I also believe there's like another motive for her. I can't wrap my head around the tent. Like, and for you to like say that out loud to someone and actually and then still think, obviously, you know, Paulina doesn't think it's okay. She knows it's a problem. but I think she doesn't know to handle it. She's trying, she doesn't, she's not happy about it, but she's trying to reconcile, you know, she's trying to get to a place where she's okay with it with the relationship.

And it's like, girl, I don't know. Hear me out. I'm going to make a comparison. I think Mike, which we've already said, Mike's not changing. I think he knows that too. Like, he's just not a relationship type of guy. Or if he is, he just needs it with other people. Mike and Brody Jenner are very similar in their relationship world, I feel like,

because they like to go out and have fun and not be tied down to one person. They've tried it before. And they see that they do better just having fun with people or not. Do they want their relationship? Yes. Can they physically handle it because they have other things to think about? No. So it's like, I can't speak for Brody.

I can't speak for Brody. I haven't been watching The Hills. I hear it's great. I've grown up with Brody. I've watched him for years. But I think the thing with Mike is that not everybody is meant to be in a monogamous relationship. And there's nothing wrong with that. People have open relationships.

People are polyamorous. People are very happy and fulfilled in those kind of situations. But I feel like Mike has this idea that he wants this perfect relationship and he wants the perfect girl. And, you know, my better half, he says four times in this episode. And it's like, Mike, you might need at a certain point, Mike's probably like 40 years old, he's been divorced. He might need to like sit down and be honest with. No, that's not, no, that's, I'm saying the opposite. He might need to like be honest with himself that if that monogamous like perfect, better half

relationship might not actually be what he truly wants because he keeps sabotaging it for himself. And so it's like, you know, Paulina. doesn't seem to want an open relationship, but maybe Mike needs to go find somebody who does. Like, you know, or just be single for a little bit. Play the field, whatever. I don't know. Look at us, solving relationships, one relationship at a time. Bravo couples therapy. Come to us.

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Let's talk about this Halloween party. So first of all, Nima shows up in this MJ costume, which personally I thought was a miss. I didn't, I wasn't a fan of the costume. Can I just ask you really quick? Has Nima done anything yet that has. Has Nima done anything yet that has been like anything, like anything, not just how long a costume, but like anything. Nima's not like carrying the show for me. Like he's not like a top tier Shah's cast member at this point, I would say. But yeah, if I was MJ, I wouldn't have been super impressed with that costume. She seemed to take it in stride.

I liked that Gigi was kind of like, uh. I think he thought it made it better. it made it better because he, him and Tom, like he didn't go and get stuff. Like he was like, Tommy knew about it. Like, we went to your closet and rated your closet. Like, that's MJ's actual outfit.

Yeah. But no. I just wasn't a huge fan of like the couch cushion ass. Like that is a little bit whatever. Like get some drag queen pads or something. It's like, feel the tits. Feel the tits. Feel the tally woman.

But, okay, so they're playing this game that I've mentioned before. Paulina is clearly like kind of uncomfortable throughout this whole thing. we saw her call Destiny before the party and kind of ask her not to bring up the whole situation with Mike because, you know, maybe she's going to break up with him, but they're still together. She doesn't want to have like a whole situation.

And I would say predictably, destiny does not do great with that assignment. Well, okay, but here's the thing, same thing about them being friends and they're like shady friendship. Imagine having to call your quote unquote friend and have them ask to not bring something up front of a group of people, like, that's a lot of trust issues right there with your so-called girlfriend. Like, I don't know. It's just like, I don't need to call my friend. I mean, I think Paulina is smart to not trust Destiny, but at the same time, it didn't, clearly Destiny didn't really take that suggestion to heart. Because this game right away, it's pretty clear that the point is sort of to shit on Mike. I don't know if Reza made the questions or whoever, but

You know, Mike already feels some type of way about, you know, Paulina and Destiny going to the bathroom together and Destiny is trying to get them to not sit together. And it's a little bit like destiny. Just like take your foot off the gas. Like breathe a little bit and just like keep Mike's name out of your mouth. And of course, she does not. Let some of it happen organically. Like, I think what threw Mike over the edge from the beginning is the seat changing thing. Because she was like, everyone sit next to someone like you wouldn't.

normally or whatever. And it's like, what? They're all in like a group, but you guys would all sit. That's why to me it was very geared. There were like 12 people there. Yes. It was very geared towards Mike because she didn't want them. So she made an announcement. So it seemed like everyone. Everybody moved seats. Paulina. Yeah. No, it was a little clunky to me, but definitely, you know, when they start going at it, it just gets ugly. Mike, you know, I don't know, destiny is saying that, that or no, Mike calls Destiny a liar. And she's like, what do you mean when you say I'm a liar? And Mike is like, I'm not going to say it.

Like, I don't need to bring it up. Like, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, what are you talking about? Mike? Like, what's going on here? Okay. But then Destiny after, like, Destiny goes, oh, there is so much I could have said. And it's like, so then set, what are you trying to do then?

Then say it. If you have all this shit. I know. I wish both of them. I feel like Mike and, Mike and Destiny are both kind of like, they clearly have issues with each other, but neither of them are really saying exactly what the issue is. We know a little bit more with Destiny.

It's like the stuff with Paulina and the sexting 10 times. But I'm like, Mike, like, what do you share with the group? What you have on Destiny? Yeah. Like, I'd like to know. But Destiny calls him. If you have something to share it with the class, like just share it with the class.

Destiny calls Mike's son. And he says that she could never afford him. And then what really sets her off is when he says, I could buy and sell you, which is, I don't exactly know what he meant by that, but it sounds very icky. Like,

it sounds very, like, insulting. Yeah, I don't, I feel like, I'm not sure what he meant by that. I don't, I think maybe he was just trying to prove how much money he had,

but it didn't maybe come off that way. Maybe, like, never, maybe, like, never say something to a woman about, like, selling her. as a commodity. Yeah.

Probably not good, but Destiny is totally set off. She's screaming at him to get out of her house. And he like kind of takes a while to leave. He's like, he goes back outside to the barbecue. And then like he's like, I'll leave when my woman gets here. And it's like, babe, just like wait outside the door. Like, come on.

Yeah. I, he kept saying like, I'm waiting for Paulina until I come out of the bathroom. And I get it. He could have like gone outside. But at the same time, like, those situations are always so weird because you don't know what's happening. No one is going to calm down. Like, Destiny kept repeating herself, like, get out of my house.

But he wasn't doing anything other than just standing there, which was annoying her even more. Like, she was like, just leave. But, like, he, they ended up getting in like a bit of a, I don't want to call it a scuffle. But from what I saw from my angle, she or someone was grabbing onto Mike's shirt. Like someone was grabbing onto Mike. No, I think she was getting heated and I think she kind of tried to like shove him a little bit, which is not ideal. But at the same time, it's kind of like, I mean, whatever. She wanted him out of her house.

Yeah, I think. The thing that was like troubling to me is when they finally, when he and Paulina finally get in the car, the last thing we hear him say is don't say a word until we get home. Like telling Paulina basically shut up, we're not going to talk about this on camera. and I'm like, there's a giant puzzle piece that we are missing from this because Destiny got a little like too mad at what was happening.

And also she, I don't know, to me, she almost wanted this because she started the game, she did this. Like she, Mike's not the type of person

if you're going to yell at him. He's just going to sit there quietly. Of course he's going to like, so like, what were you, what did you want out of this? I don't know. And then you're right.

Mike has something on her. her that like, I'm sorry, but like, we need to know. Destiny definitely felt like she was, she was like looking for an angle to start shit. Like I think that she is, you know, I think that she is like justified in her concern for Paulina and like wanting the best for Paulina. And I don't think right now it doesn't seem like this relationship is the best for Paulina. But at the same time, it's like destiny very clearly like wanted. there to be an issue.

And so that's tough. But of course we get a two be continued because that's how every episode on Bravo ends these days. You know, it's so funny. I think we've said this before, but like a to be continued is just like not necessary because like the there, it's a weekly episode. So it's like it's, we know that it's going to be on.

Newsflash. This was not the season finale. It's like episode six. Like did you mean the scene is going to be like continue? Because like we know that the show. We know you're. going to follow up. Like it was just cut at that moment.

So it's like, I guess it's a bit of a cliffhanger. Okay. Lots to consider. But let's get into the Grab the Skinny Pop moment of the day. Endless entertainment calls for endless popcorn. And luckily, every kernel of Skinny Pop is so light, crunchy and delicious that we can eat it by the handful or even the bagful. Barry, lots happened.

What is your Grab the Skinny Pop moment? My Grab the Skinny Pop moment this week is a little friendly. I know he said we don't like the one-offs. But when Reza and MJ went to Nurse Jamie, who we know and love as like a Botox date and getting, and I love just seeing people going and being like, well, and they're like, well, what do you want? And it's like almost like they're ordering off a menu. And it's like, oh, my God, don't you have to like prep yourself and think what you want and look at what they have to offer? Like, MJ was like, I just had a baby.

Like, come on. Like anything. And I was like, oh, my God. It must be so nice to just walk into a doctor's office and be like, hit me, baby. Do whatever you need. look at my face and tell me what you think I need. And they really were just getting like injectables. But the craziest part of this scene is that MJ in her interview is like,

I just love watching people get tortured. Like so. Yeah, it makes me, it reminds me of people who will just be like, I might go get a piercing today. And it's like, what, what piercing? Like, have you not thought about this for six months? Like, where do you want? Where is it going to be?

Like, what kind of stutter you're going to get? I get like, right? like spur the moment things I do. But this, yeah, I get it. These are funny. This was funny. Okay. My moment is actually the same scene, but the part after the injectables when they're

kind of having a little heart to heart. And, you know, they're talking about this issue of Gigi telling Reza that MJ said that Reza is never going to get to meet Shams. And I thought MJ did a really good job of kind of taking a step back. and explaining it that, like, I am not the same person as Tommy. Like, we are two different people. We don't always want the same things. And, like, I don't, like, I feel like MJ did a good job of explaining that, like, in my heart, like, I don't not want you to meet my son.

But because of all the stuff that has gone down between our families, she can't just, like, make that decision and disregard the restraining order and how Tommy feels and all of this. So I think that was a moment that needed to happen. And I thought they handled it well. And I feel like I'm encouraged to see, you know, we're like several episodes into the season now. And it feels like MJ and Reza are actually like building a good friendship, not just like a surface level. Like, bitch, we love each other again.

Yeah. I agree. I think that was great. And I agree we've said before. Like MJ has been doing a really good job at like, explaining basically their situation for the audience. MJ's, she's so level-headed this year. I love to see it.

We love to see it. So anyway, those are today's Grab the Skinny Pop moment. You can grab Skinny Pop yourself at Retailers Nationwide or go to the Shop Now page on Skinnypop.com. Thanks so much for listening, everyone. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show wherever you listen and just be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Sean Kilby and Horviel.

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