Mention It All - Growing Up On RHONJ Ft. Ashlee Malleo (RHONJ)

Episode Date: March 16, 2022

Dylan is joined by Ashlee Malleo, and gets into all the burning questions about her time on RHONJ. She gives some updates on the Manzo/Laurita family, including who’s talking to who, and who recently unfollowed her. They chat about what it was like to grow up in front of the cameras, and how she feels watching the Giudice girls go through some of the same things. Later, they discuss the iconic table flip, and how she’s feeling about Danielle Staub these days. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha, laugh, funny, Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it with Dylan Hafer. We'll go and check me, though. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and today I am so excited to be joined by someone I would consider a friend.

We have been chatting on social media for a long time, and I'm so excited she's finally here. You know her from Real Housewives of New Jersey, and of course, lots of stuff she's been up to since then. Please welcome Ashley Malayo. Hi, Ashley. Hi. I'm so excited to be talking with you.

Can I just say you're a very entertaining follow on Instagram because you give me everything. I get comedy from you. I get all of my Bravo information, really good in-depth movie reviews. And then I found out you can sing. I'm like, you does everything. Yeah, no, I try to be a jack of all trades. Speaking of the Bravo news, what are you into these days? Do you watch a lot of Bravo or is it kind of a little tough for you to?

get into it after being seeing how the sausage is made it's yeah it is a little tough just because it feels so um i just know there's always stuff going on behind the scenes like you know like the earlier seasons of everything just because when reality tv was so new it's like the cast didn't know how to manipulate things but now it's like they're they're smart you know they know kind of how to play the game. And so it's not as fun for me to watch certain reality TV anymore. But I do watch Vanderpump Rules. I'm a big Vanderpump fan.

I don't really watch many of the Housewives franchises. I get all of my Housewives news from you, honestly. So speak of Vanderpump Rules, just yesterday, Tom and Katie announced that they are splitting up. That's the big news this week. What are your feelings about that? Are you surprised? Did you see it coming?

There's always, like I said, there's always stuff behind the scenes. So, you know, we only see like a small percentage of their life. Like based on what we see on the show, I'm not surprised. It's still sad though, you know. And then, but I don't know what their relationship was like. Like I think Tom and his statement even said something about that. Like we've had plenty of romantic, whatever moments and all that stuff. So it's like, you know, you never know their life. But they seem like they're in a good place. So I think that's good. It doesn't seem toxic. They both kind of put out a mutual statement. And their friends were commenting on both of their posts. So it's not like, I don't think it's anything like too scandalous. I think they're handling it well. It's hard because their relationship has been such a central part of Vanderpump rules for so long. And so it's like, where do we go from here? I assume, assuming they have another season coming, it's like, is every, does anyone leave the show or do we unpack it together? It's always curious to see, like, how that dynamic changes.

I know. And then I saw, like, I think you posted this actually. It was like the same day James Kennedy posted he's like in a new relationship. And I was like, oh, come on. I need, I need like sweet Raquel to be okay. I know. I know. She's so cute.

Do you like know the Vanderpump crew at all? Because you were still on Jersey when that show started, I think. Yeah? Yeah. I haven't met them. I have like briefly talked to Sheena on like Instagram. I've, I think like Stasi one time posted something about wanting makeup recommendations like for primer or something when,

for when she's in labor and I gave her some tips and she just said thank you. So I don't know them like that. Oh, I'm friends with Brett Cap. Yeah. Caprioni. I'm friends with him. But that's about it. you know, he's not on there anymore, obviously.

But there's, yeah, they're really cool people, though. I like the cast a lot. I just don't know them on that level. So you were living in Nevada for a while, right? Like with your mom and then you came back. Yeah, I was there for like eight months. And then you came back to New Jersey during the pandemic. What was it like the decision to come back?

Like, how has it been kind of readjusting? It's funny because, like, I. I grew up in Vegas, for the most part. I moved to New Jersey and I was in like fifth grade and then I would go out there, you know, twice a year. And every time I would go out there throughout the course of my life, it was always vacation mode. And even when I was living in L.A., I would go to Vegas all the time and I was just kind

of in my bubble with my family. I didn't realize how much Vegas has actually changed as far as the parts you actually live in, like outside of the strip and things like that. So when I was out there, there's a lot that I love. about it, but, you know, I did miss New Jersey. And then, um, so yeah, I don't know. My, my husband's job is here. And so we came back here and, uh, yeah, but I like where I'm living now. I'm living in, um, Pompton Plains, New Jersey. And it's really, it's a really nice area, um, as far as the people. Like, the people are just like really kind and, um, yeah, Franklin

Lakes and, and Bergen County in general, it can be a little, I mean, you've seen it on show how kind of the people are. So it was cool kind of getting out of that environment. And I'm like, oh, there's like really nice people in New Jersey. I have no idea. Yeah. Speaking of getting out of that environment, your mom obviously is not living in New Jersey anymore. And people, I think, sometimes don't realize that. And everybody who's ever been a housewife will always be dragged into the conversation of like, will, will Jacqueline come back? Will Dina come back? Like, everybody is always on the table. And it's like, no, actually, she doesn't live there. Do you feel like, do you feel like it was important for your mom after she left the show to kind of

get that physical separation from being in New Jersey? No, I think she would have been fine either way. But I think it's definitely nice for her right now being where she is because it's not just like, oh, they moved to Vegas. You know, that's where my grandparents are, her parents. So it's like her parents are there. My uncle, her brother's there and cousins, things like that. So she kind of, you know, has her whole family back. You know, being in New Jersey, you know, we love my dad's family. But, you know, it's still, when it's yours, it's, you know, it's different. So she has kind of like her side of the family around all the time now. And, you know, she has her best friends there that she spent such a big chapter of her life with.

So she's happy. I don't think she needed that. I think she would have been fine here, but she's definitely like in a good place over there for sure. I love. Yeah. Speaking of your dad's family, I, first of all, your son is like the cutest kid in the world. I always love seeing him pop up on my timeline. But you posted a picture of him with little Marquesa, Lauren's daughter. How has it been kind of in a new phase of your life with that side of the family where you're older now, some of you have kids. What has that been like kind of spending time together now that things are so different? It's so great.

Like it's just wild. Like it's just how fast, you know, time has gone. It's like when I think of myself, like when I was 21 versus now being 31. And it's just like, but I don't know or,

you know, it's like it's crazy. So, um, and seeing like, you know, Lauren be a mom. Like, she's such a good mom. She keeps it pretty private, I think, on social media. Like, she shares a lot, but she also holds back to it. I think she doesn't give herself, like,

enough credit as far as, like, what a good mom she is. And it's great. And Albie is, like, just such a good uncle. And he's even, like, with Cameron, you know, like, they're just, it's great. It's so fun. Like, Markey's birthday party was, it was awesome. It was, you know, there was a whole DJ, of course, the whole thing at the Brownstone. It was a whole event. and just seeing all the little kids like dancing on the dance floor and I'm like, I used to get drunk here on the years. And now like I'm watching my kids dance with Elsa, you know? What is it like for you revisiting? Obviously the Brownstone for us is like this TV iconic space.

But for you, it's like the family business for part of your family. Like what does it feel at all weird being in that place where so much stuff has gone down that the world knows about? No, it is, it's, I think for me it is kind of always one of those things where, like, there's a memory everywhere in it, you know, from one of the first things I, I did when we moved here was like the New Year's party they would have every year there. And so it's just every time I go to the Brownson, I just think of every single New Year's Eve for so long. I think of all the different birthday parties we've had. Like, and because it's such a popular space here, it's not even stuff with my family, my friends. have done things there. And so, yeah, it's always nostalgic when we go there. It's probably just as iconic to me as it is to the viewers, like you were saying. It might be a little different for like Al B, Lauren, and Chris. Because for them, yeah, they were, you know, they would hang out in the office, you know,

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unfollowed them back. And that's that. I'm like, I'm not going to follow you if you're not following me. And that's kind of it. And I haven't talked about. I totally get that. Sometimes I feel like I will like black out things that I do on social media sometimes. So I'm like, tweet something. to respond to a story. Like, I'm like making sure, like flipping through in my mind. But that's, I mean, I feel like we hear about that so much. And obviously for people who are, you know, on these shows or in the public eye, there's more attention being paid to kind of who's following who, who's commenting on whoever's post.

But I mean, just, I guess family just has ups and downs like that too. I don't know. It's a hard dynamic, I'm sure. Yeah, I know. The only thing I could think of is that, like, I obviously spend a lot of time around my aunt Caroline and that side of my family. So I'm like, maybe she just didn't want to see me posting stuff anymore. I don't know. So Dina and Teresa are still like BFFs. That's always so funny to be. I'm like, because I feel like they're just. Yeah, they were actually just in Vegas recently. Yeah, they went out to dinner. They were going to, they invited my, my mom and dad. But. just scheduling reasons and stuff, they couldn't join them. But I thought that would have been fun. I kind of mad that they couldn't go. That would have, okay, I have to say, if they had posted, if Jacqueline had gone and they had

posted a picture together, that would have kind of broken the internet a little bit. I think it would have. Yeah, I know. You know, family first. It is funny. Like the early seasons of Real Housewives of New Jersey, I feel like are this like time capsule of a lot of chaos, but also a lot of really. fun family moments and the fact that it was like your family all the you know the manzo

lorita whole dynamic and then the judices and the gorgas like it really does feel like this kind of bottled up thing that you could never quite have that again like it would be really hard to cast that on a show yeah i think it's like most of the shows at the time it was kind of like casted people and the kind of random, you know, created friend groups where with us, like we didn't know we were going to be housewives. I say we just because my mom, I know I'm not a housewife. Let's calm down everybody. I can smell the comments now.

It's like she thinks she's a housewife. I know. I know. I always have to prepare myself mentally for that. But it's like, yeah, we didn't know that's what the show is going to be. It was called the Untitled New Jersey Project. And it was just kind of like, you know, it started like it was us. And then they threw in the wild card, which was Danielle.

And so that was the only thing that felt a little weird. But yeah, so it was different when it came out. It was kind of like, oh, they're sisters and their sister-in-laws. And they've known this person, like their whole lives. And, you know, and then enter Melissa. It's like, oh, now that's her sister-in-law. And then Kathy, it's like, oh, her cousin. Like, it is.

That family element was just like really different. And it was just more organic. and I think people felt that. Yeah. And another thing, too, because I always, like, I think was it Vicky and Ramona, like, fight about who put housewives on the map? Is that what they did about? And every time I hear that conversation, it bothers me because they might have been first. But I think we all know the table flip with Teresa is what did it.

That was, like, the first thing that, like, like, Real House House of New Jersey was on South Park. Was Vicky on South Park? I don't think Vicki was on South Park. I mean, I feel like each franchise kind of has their own, like, piece of the puzzle of what made Housewives what it is. But that table flip, I think, more than any other single moment, like, I was in high school when that was airing. And I did not watch Housewives at the time. I didn't start watching Housewives until years after that. And, like, I knew exactly what that was.

You know, that was, it was so relevant. Whereas, like, I knew that people liked New York. I knew the people watched Atlanta. but like I didn't have a moment in my head like I did with that table flip. Yeah, exactly. Were you at that dinner? Yeah. Everybody was at that dinner.

Like the little kids were at that dinner. Yeah. I think we just feel like there was like a kids table of sorts that we were at. And I think when things start to kind of happen, like when you can hear voices being raised and things like that, there's kind of like a magnetism. I think with the kids. So they started yelling and like Lauren and I both stood up and then like I go stand kind of by my mom but behind her. She's standing like by her mom behind her. And, um, you know, that's kind of we're like always ready to defend clearly. Um, so it's like, but yeah, it was crazy. It was like the craziest thing ever. And then what's what was crazier is when cameras like went down because it was like nothing happened. Like Teresa was just like. Like, was that okay? Was I fine? It's like, no. I feel like Teresa has that ability more than anyone else to go from 100 back to zero and be like, yeah, like, whatever. It happened. Yeah. Like, we all go from zero to 100 and we're like amped up and like are feeling adrenaline.

And then Teresa just goes right back down to zero. And it's like, we're all like frantic still and you're just like calm. Like nothing happened. Yeah. That was. So you were old enough when the show started, like you were saying to kind to kind of pick up on what was happening. You weren't a little kid. You were involved in some of the drama. What was it like when you found out you were going to do the show or were auditioning to do the show? Was that like a family decision? Were you ever not interested in participating?

Or how did that go? Oh my gosh. I mean, I definitely was interested. I was, I always make jokes like because I feel like at the time. like when it happened, I was like, I manifested this. And I just, you know, the only thing I knew about reality TV really was like I'd seen the Osbournes. I knew this wasn't going to be that.

And then like the hills. And I was like, oh my God, this is going to be amazing. And I was just, I was just an asshole, really. I was just like, oh, my God, I'm going to be on TV. And I didn't realize like the long term effects of certain things. It was just kind of like, I was just listening to like whatever. I'm not blatant. I hate when like they're like, it was.

the producers. It wasn't. I was just going through like a time. But also like if producers were like in certain interviews or things like that, like they kind of feed you stuff and like I would let, you know, I would get like amped up and like, you know, and it's also certain things like they, you know, they stick you in a room together and they don't, there's a topic that needs to be discussed and like they're not going to stop filming until the topic is discussed, you know? So it's like you're just kind of do your job essentially and then get out of there. Yeah. I think. one thing that I was struck by, because I asked people to send in questions for you, and it's like, people think that you have no realization that some of the stuff that happened when you were on the show was, like, cringe-worthy. And I'm like, no, I think she knows. Yeah, I literally just posted,

like, a Reels video recently about, like, stuff. No, there's stuff that literally, I don't even know. And I don't even think it was like, like, I feel like I outgrew so much. And then I had my son and I outgrew even more. Like I always make jokes. Like, I must have had like a hormonal imbalance. And then I had my son. And like that's what I needed to like knock everything right chemically. Right.

Like those first few seasons that you were on the show, you were like a child still. You were a teenager. And so, I mean, and then there was like compounding circumstances on top of just the fact that you were a teenage girl, like, who wouldn't be moody with their mom, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, there were, there were like a lot of factors, you know, I was dealing kind of with a lot of my own stuff that I didn't even work out until somewhat recently, you know, just stuff like with my, in general, just things I like went through growing up and stuff like that.

I was just holding on to like a lot of resentment and stuff for things. And then, yeah, I had gone through like a breakup. I did this and that. You know, there's just like a bunch of things. And I was just like not, I was not in a good place to be on a TV show. And I just felt more and more resentment as like time went on because I just feel like I could have had a little bit more protection in a sense. Like looking back when I was in it, I wasn't fully thinking that. I was just kind of feeling resentment for other things.

but then like when I got older, I kind of hit a block with that because, you know, I look at like the way like my Aunt Caroline kind of, you know, like my cousins were shown just in such a different light. And with me, my storyline on there with my mom, I was such a large part of her storyline. And a lot of the stuff was just negative. Like they never showed any of the positive aspects of my life or my personality. it was like only the negative things and that just like really got to me especially during the time of my life that I was in and yeah so it was it was hard I think the hardest season for me not not even season like the hardest year for me was I think it was season four whenever I had that like I don't even want to call it blonde hair I don't know what it was but that and then my whips were like overly

filled and like all that stuff and um That was probably like the worst time. And then like when they sent me away and I remember I was like so mad because we hadn't just started filming and they're like, you're going to Vegas. And I was just like so mad. But it was honestly like the best thing that could have happened. Like from there from Vegas, I went to Texas to be with my family there. And then I still got paid for that season.

That's why I continued doing like web chat things throughout. And, yeah. So, like, after I got my money from that, I moved to L.A. I got an internship with Sellibuz and BuzzNet. And then I started working for them. And yeah, and then everything else just got better after that. Wait, so, okay, if you don't mind me asking, you said you were getting paid for that season. When were you always getting paid separate from your mom to be on the show?

Or did that start happening at a certain point? So season one Yeah, season one It was a It was like a Makeup and Wardrobe budget But it was like a lot And I clearly didn't use it on makeup and wardrobe

So that's what it was So that was like a lower fee And then after season one And then like the popularity I got paid more in season two Got paid more in season three And then four four and seven I got paid.

I don't think I was on five or six, right? Yeah, because my mom was gone. Your mom was not on speakable season. No one talks about. She like came back at the end of six. Right. Six is the one where it's like, Dina came back and then it was like the twins and yeah, yeah, it was a rough patch.

Yeah. Because it's exactly why it's because like what we said, it wasn't organic. It was like they casted. You know, someone that called herself an actress and wanted to be on TV. Then they casted the twins and all that stuff. So it just, it was just such a random group and then like Dina. So it was like, why is, you know, it just didn't make sense.

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becoming kind of more a part of the storyline. They're getting confessionals and things like that. Do you, does that like make you feel, are you, like, stressed out when you see other kids, kind of doing that or do you feel like it's different for everyone and I don't know. Stressed out in what way? Like, does it stress you out on their behalf that it's like, I want you, I don't want you to like get this hate 10 years from now for something that you said on TV when you were 16?

Yeah. Yeah. Like I, I can tell like certain moments where I'm like, oh, they might regret that later or they might whatever. But I, in the specific sense, as far as like Teresa's girls, I think they're doing fine. I think Malanya has been an icon literally since day one. Like from the second she said, give me pizza, you old troll and stuff like that. Like she's just been like, you know, she's been great. Gabriella has always been like quiet. But like when she does speak, like in the recent

episode, you can see she has like that sense of humor and she's like very just chill. And I've always like Gabriela. She was always like the sporty one. And, um, and Adriana now is like, that's all she's known. Like she was born on the show. It's kind of like the Kardashian. kids. You know, it's like she was born on the show and it's her life. So she doesn't know any better. And I think she's growing up in a time where she kind of gets, you know, like I said, when we were all newly on it, we didn't know how it worked. And I think she was kind of groomed to know how it works. So I'm not as worried about her or even like the newer kids in general. I think they're at this point, depending on like how long the parent has been on the show, they're kind of groomed to know

how to how to be and Gia you know she's been on it for so long she's always had that personality like that like entertainer like you saw her in the earlier seasons like auditioning for movies like you know she was always doing dance and stuff like that and um and now she's in college and she's going to be a lawyer and all that i'm a little concerned that she doesn't think her mom needs a pre-up but she's still in school so she'll figure that out um but other than that you know she looks great. She's beautiful and, you know, bless them. Totally. Were you, back when you were on Bravo, were you, did you talk to any of the other housewives kids from other cities? Because around the same time, there were a lot of you

kind of around the same age, like Ali Shapiro and Lou Am's kids and Kyle's kids. Like, were you ever in touch with them much? No. I, uh, I reached out to Farah somewhat recently, just about like real estate school because I was I mean I did go to real estate school I just haven't taken the exam but before I considered going I reached out to Farah and I was just kind of asking her like what she thinks about certain things and she was really nice I've never met her in person I've talked to Brielle

and I don't want to like offend anybody if I'm forgetting but no I don't really I'm just like in general I'm pretty I just talk to a lot of people on social media Like you see even how, like the way I talk to you on social media is how I talk to, I talk to people. Like I like, like I just know them. So it's like sometimes they'll respond and we'll talk and then sometimes that's it. Like it's always like if I like, if I like them, I'm like we're friends. Well, I think that's one of the cool things about social media is that if you're open to those kind of interactions, you can make connections with so many cool people.

And it doesn't have to be like, oh yeah, I know her because we went to this event together. and then we had a mutual friend. It's like, no, I know her because she's cool and we talk sometimes. Like that it doesn't have to be like as coincidental of like meeting someone and getting to know them. It's just like cool to know people in lots of different contexts. Yeah. And I think I think for me too, it was like season one was just kind of like I'm just a really

open person in general and I'm definitely an oversharer when it comes to social media and just like life. So season one for me It was like I was going to be going to summer school and all that stuff And my mom did ask me like do you care if we show that? And I was like, I don't care whatever like it happens you know And so I didn't but I didn't realize how just with other things like how bad it was going to be for me And then season two was when it started just getting worse for me

And then season three it was like I was just like I had given up at that point at season three And I think it's kind of obvious, like, even when they had that whole, like, intervention thing for me when, like, my parents from Texas came up too. And I just, like, gave up. I was like, this is me on the show. Like, this is me. And I was just done kind of, you know. So I didn't really, I wasn't going out to, like, the events or, like, trying to talk to people or try to do those things because I was kind of, like, embarrassed. You know, I just didn't want to.

And I can, you know, it was just like an uncomfortable feeling. I felt very uncomfortable in my skin during that time, like in general. But then especially after stuff was airing. And I was always annoyed because I was like, you know, I'm not like doing drugs. I'm not out like sleeping with people. Like I'm literally just like, you know, I just didn't have guidance. Like as far as like I didn't have structure. You were like a young adult kind of going through it a little bit.

But it wasn't looking back. It's like it wasn't anything so scandalous. it just was like a little bit of a rough patch maybe. Yeah, a little bit. And a very public one. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Okay, I have to ask about Danielle Staub.

That's like the number one question topic, of course. I know that you and Danielle are not close these days. Did you and her ever talk after those first couple seasons of the show? Like, was there ever any kind of? interaction or conversation that happened that we didn't see on the show between you two? No. I'm trying to remember my last interaction. I think my last interaction with her was in court.

Yeah. And that was like insane. It was like it was just the whole thing was ridiculous. But I'm not saying like the whole thing was ridiculous in the sense of like obviously I shouldn't have pulled her hair. But like the courtroom thing in general was just like it was just she was just so you would think there were cameras there the way she was acting. So that was kind of my last interaction with her. There's been little like social media fights along the way, of course, because like I said, I'm impulsive. I'm working on that.

But she, I said this with someone recently in regards to her. I am not as bothered by her anymore because I used to hear things she would say. And I would be like, oh, my God, she's lying. Like, that's a lie. She's crazy. Da, da, da, da. And then I would want to, like, fight her, like, as far as, like, you know, I would tweet something or whatever. And as I've gotten older, I've just sort of realized, like, that, like, yes, she's lying.

but I genuinely believe that she like that's her reality and it's not one of those things like oh it's like my perspective and her perspective it's like she literally is and it's I'm not saying this to be sarcastic how it sounds but I do think she is mentally ill and it's like she you you can't reason with someone like that as far as like I can't hate her or blame her for saying these things because she genuinely believes those things she's saying. Do you know what I'm saying? Am I making sense? Totally.

It's like she believes that. Yeah. And that makes it, it's like not satisfying in the same way to like clap back at someone on Twitter. If it's like, I'm not going to like win this argument with you because it's not about that anymore really. And even if it was, even if it wasn't, it's like I, it's, she's going to say her things.

I'm going to, you know, either way, it's, there's no changing it. So why am I wasting my time is kind of where, where I'm at, but that. But I do think there's a correlation there as far as, like, why her daughter decided to be a psychology major. Like, I think she maybe wanted to understand how her mom works with things. You know, I don't know. I can't speak for her. But, yeah, like, I do think something's, like, off there that she genuinely believes that. And it made me feel, not, like, feel bad for her, but I was kind of like, oh, you know, I guess it's weird.

Even when she came back on the show a few seasons ago, it was like she kind of was being given the second chance and Teresa was friends with her all of a sudden. And over the course of those few seasons that she was on, she really kind of dug her own grave in terms of the people in that group. Like one by one, she kind of showed everyone that she couldn't be trusted or that she wasn't there for them. So it's like in that sense, it's like it's not even just what happened 10 years ago on the show. show, it's like she kind of was let back in and then with the hair pull and the, you know, the Teresa and all that stuff. It's like, no, you just can't really. She's not the kind of person you can have around like that.

Yeah. And it's like I was saying, it's like that's her reality. So it's like she, it's like when you lie so much and then you believe your own lies. But then there's so many and you can't fully keep track of them. And then you build upon that in your head. So it's almost like even like she said with me pulling her hair. Like she said how Like she had like a bald spot on her head

And then that became she had to get stitches And then that became she her head hit the cement And she had to get like Her story has evolved insanely over time And it's like dude it's on camera Like it's on camera Like you did not hit your head on the cement And need stitches

Like you like But that's why I don't even say anything Like I mean technically now I am But I'm talking to it's like I'm not like I'm not not like on Twitter tweeting her and saying stuff because it's like why. Like that's what she thinks happened. So why am I going to say anything if that's what she believes happened?

Everyone knows that's not what happened. So why do I need to waste my time? It's like, you know, love and light, as you might say. You know what's so funny about that too? People think I, I think people think that was like something I said because I like shouted at her. But the reason I said that is because Danielle was going through a. time period on her social media where everything she was saying, she would sign it,

Love and Light, Danielle. Everything was Love and Light, Danielle. Oh, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, love and light, Danielle. So that when she was doing all that shit, that I was mad. And that's why I was like, Love and Light, Danielle, Love and Light. Because she, that's like, she had been signing everything on social media that way. And I'm like, you're literally being such a bitch. And then you're signing it, love and light.

So that's why I said it in my, yeah, so that's why in my like little poorly spelled letter to her, I signed at Love and Light. And then when I was fighting with her and I screamed at her, that's why I said it. But, yeah. And now, now I feel like you since that time, you're on your own journey of Love and Light, you know? Oh, yeah. Onward and Upward, Love and Light, all of that. Hopefully. Oh, yeah.

All the good stuff. Oh my gosh. Well, okay. So is there anything that you have that you're working on that you have coming up that you're excited about these days? Yeah. So I was working as a makeup artist for like a really long time. And then COVID scared me. And I just like threw away everything in my kit. And I just kind of took a break from it for a while. But I have started kind of getting back into that and doing that. But in the meantime, um, so many random projects. I recently partnered with, um, this tech company called Kana technology. And it's, It's really crazy what they're doing. I can't even fully explain it. I keep referencing. Have you seen Zoolander? I know you're younger than me. Zoolander, you know the part when she's like, the files are in the computer.

And he's like, they're in the computer. That's me. Every time I'm talking to the team members from this company, they pretty much, it's the world's first molecular printer. So they're, it essentially is turning water into any. beverage that you want. So I'm working with them specifically on creating like a line of cold brew coffee. So we're developing that right now and they're going to start shipping them out early 2023, but you can pre-order them now too. So if you check out canna.com, I believe it is.

But yeah, it's awesome. It's really cool. So that's the main thing I'm working on right now. But I have a bunch of random little projects. And I have a podcast. I have a podcast too. it's called your mom friends and I do it with one of my best friends and we haven't recorded an episode in the last like three weeks because she just got a new job so I'm letting her kind of like get in her new routine and then we're going to start recording again but it's it's a lot of fun and the goal is just sort of like any that you don't have to be a mom to listen to it it's not we don't talk about like lactation or like things like that it's we talk about normal stuff and it's just basically for the moms who maybe like you can't get a sitter to go out with your girlfriends or

you just feel kind of lonely. It's like we're your mom friends. That's all. So it's fun. It's a fun time. Amazing. Well, check that out wherever you're listening to mention it all. And Ashley, thank you so much for joining us. This is so fun. Of course. Thank you for having me. Anytime. Thanks so much everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate, review and follow the show. Follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Batchez. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Sean Kilby and Jorge Morales Pico. Editing by Sean Kilby. Social media by Dylan Hafer.

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