Mention It All - Hailey Glassman On New RHONY Beef & Old Tabloid Trauma

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

RHONY newbie Hailey Glassman joins Dylan to open up about stepping back into the spotlight and why she was finally ready to move past the tabloid headlines that followed her for years. She gets candid about her fallout with Erin Lichy, why their Passover Seder confrontation hit such a nerve, and how much Sai’s support meant to her in that moment. Hailey also shares her thoughts on Jessel, teases the chaos still to come on Mosquito Island, and talks about her interesting relationship with her mom. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday & Friday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. This season went well, is going well. Yeah. And, yeah, it's a great experience. And, you know, I can write a whole book about how you went from tabloids to real house when I was in New York City. I feel like you have such a unique kind of like trajectory compared to, you know, like anybody else on the show. I'm a phoenix that rose from the motherfucking ashes, baby.

And I'm a experience, don't give up. Keep pushing forward. I've been discarded as trash more times than I could count. But the point is, keep moving forward. Dory had it. Just keep swimming. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.

We are a few weeks into this new Rony season. And I am having a great time in large part thanks to one of our new ladies. She's here in the studio, Haley Glassman. Hi. Thank you. How are you doing? I'm doing well. You said you're having fun with the season so far.

Yeah. We're just a few weeks in. you're you're just keeping swimming we yeah i'm just moving forward keep moving forward tell me about your decision to do this show your decision to put yourself kind of back into the public eye in a way well i didn't want to go down my only regret well outside of like my eyebrows from one of my my my only mugshot i don't say one of my mug shots because i only have one but um but i didn't want to like go down as like this home wrecking haley was just i did the time not the crime and it was something that really bothered me always and no matter how many years passed it's still something that like

you know kind of like people would always take a cheap blow at me like if they like anytime someone wanted to hurt me they would be like oh well you're homewrecking haley or you're this or that so ironically i had like this was like maybe a year and a half ago i had this dream i know it sounds like crazy, but I had this dream that I was in this house and I was trying to get out and I couldn't get out and I just kept going out the door being in the same spot. And in my dream, I was like, like, I realized in that dream like a piece of me was dead and that I couldn't get out of this dream. And then I woke up and I was like, oh my gosh, like to me that dream meant like I wasn't living to my full potential and I was still like letting the past paralyze my future to my full

potential because I was so afraid of what people would think about me. So I woke up the next morning and saw this casting from Shed for Roney and applied and here I am after like it was like a year of casting or something. I know. It was a lot of people were wondering what was going to happen. There were different rumors here and there. But you guys are here. I'm here and I remember them being like we're not casting anyone alone. So I sent them like 11 women like blah, blah, blah.

They're only casting in twos and threes. Next thing I know, I was cast it alone. I came in and it's been a great experience. And I really wanted to do it because I feel that maybe like hearing my story and not my story is not just tablights. There's a lot more moving parts to this puzzle. And I felt that maybe like my misfortune and the things I've been through in life and the cards that I was dealt could potentially be someone's survival guide. You know, because when you go through the darkest phases of your life all alone and you reach a level of darkness and you come out to the light because a lot of people don't make it out. You know, they feel like there is no tomorrow and life won't get better.

You know, at 22, I felt like my life is over. I will always be branded as this homewrecking Haley from Johnny K Plus A. It just felt like my life was over. Well, it's so interesting to you because I think like when you're in a situation like that, it can probably feel like the entire world is thinking one thing or looking at you or whatever. And because you're in it, it's the only thing that you can kind of like think about. Whereas now there are so many people who, whether or not they knew about that at the time, are like, I'm meeting this person for the first time. And they're getting to know you from whatever you're bringing to the table now.

And it's like, oh, you really can. It's like, okay, that was that was one moment in time. And now it's, you know, 16 years later or whatever. And you can really have a different experience. Well, remember, we didn't have Instagram back then. Yeah. So they could take back then, they were heavy on the tabloid. So like people magazine and all that stuff.

So they would take a photo of me and then place a narrative and like this big, big bad villain mistress Haley. When like at the end of the day, it's like funny because I'm the complete opposite of, you know, I've always kind of been like, I don't want to say pothead, but I've always been like a bit of a stoner, smoking weed in my own world. Like this whole rollerblading thing, people have asked my castmates like, is Haley really like that? And like that whole intro, I was just rollerblading. Like, that's a Tuesday to me. Like that's just Tuesday hitting my pen, rollerblading. You know what I mean? Amen.

This is called the real housewives of New York City, not the real business women of New York City. Like, I don't understand why everyone's expecting you to be, you know, like. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes there is that mindset of it. It's like people are sort of like comparing their, you know, resumes and stuff. And it's like, sometimes you can just like kind of go with the flow. I just feel like like, bitch, I don't care about your resume.

I want to have fun. I'm on a show. Let's get a little liddy. Like, let's have some fun. Let's have some corkiness. Like enough with the fighting. I think Housewives went far left with just too much fighting. Enough.

I don't want to hear about this nonsense. Like, I want to have fun. So you came on the show this season. We also have Daisy and Erica who are joining the show for the first time. Erica is lovely. Yes. Okay. Did you feel like there was a divide at all between like,

we're the new people and were the, you know, veterans or whatever? Like, was that something you felt at all coming into the group? No, I think we came in. We were all just kind of like, I think, you know, as the season rolls out, you see like the chemistry and the shifts of friendship and this and that. It does feel like in these first, you know, a handful of episodes, it's like, okay, we have, there's some new energy. It feels like there, there is kind of like a, a different vibe shift that's happened. And that's exciting. I think what made everything great is,

like, you know, people will say Haley's corky. She's weird. She's odd, Bob. But that's what New Yorkers are. That, I mean, you don't have, like, that's what we are. That's what New York City is. where women beating to our own drum doing our thing. And like, who cares what everyone else thinks? I think that's such a good point that I think like people have this idea of New York as like, oh, well, it's glamorous. It's, uh, you know, luxurious and all of this. But it's like there also is like the kind of like texture of everybody existing on top of each other.

And like you can be dressed, you know, totally crazy and nobody even bats an eye because everybody's focused on their own. Like it's, it is. that kind of like if everybody's the same then that isn't really accurate. No it's not like for example like our rents are astronomical. So if we leave Manhattan and go elsewhere like we could be living in mansions like people don't realize like in Manhattan like it's not it's small living but it's small living for you know astronomical pricing but also like for example I leave my apartment in the

mornings and I go get Starbucks. There's a homeless man outside my apartment building that like pee's, I see and pee every morning and I'm just like, hey, what's up, Jim? He's like, hey. And I'll be like, do you want a Starbucks sometimes? And he'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like only in New York does it not phase you. And I'm not worried about him chasing me

because he actually isn't a wheelchair with one leg. No, I'm not playing. I'm like serious. But that's your homeboy. That's my home boy over there. And like, he's not going to chase me. Like, it's like you just, so much stuff is normalized in New York City. that like would be very weird elsewhere, you know, and we don't care in New York.

I totally feel that. Yeah. So we don't like, and I'm not over here saying I'm perfect. My life is a dumpster fire. Like the show wrapped my life didn't wrap. Yeah. You know? So what was it like?

Because obviously, you know, you talk about the sort of like tabloid time back in, you know, 15 years ago. The media landscape has changed a lot since then the way that, you know, tabloids have completely shifted, like whatever. How can you feel a difference now in how it is to be like putting parts of your life out there that maybe you wouldn't have been comfortable with 15 years ago? Like do you sense that change? I think like 15, like 16 years ago, like I was a girl, young girl at the time. Like, you know, 22 is still young.

You don't know who you are. So like I don't think I knew who I was then. But now at almost 40, like, I'm. I'm a grown woman and I've been through it and I've been through this and that and I know who I am. So I'm more confident in the direction of where I want my life to go and who I am as opposed to at 22. You don't know who you are. You don't know what you want in life. You just know like you're just figuring it out.

You know, you're just like trial and error. Mm-hmm. You know, but as you, you know, you get older and you grow into the, you know, I'm the woman I am today because of the past. So I became the woman that I needed at 22. So if I see someone struggling, I do go out of my way to understand what's going on and help them. And I do find that very important. Rather than discarding someone as they have issues or like, ooh, like I don't find someone having issues or a problem, a burden. I want to help them because I know what it's like to struggle alone.

And it's a very lonely feeling. Yeah. And I felt like I could sort of sense that at the at the Seder dinner at Daisy's parents. when Aaron's house when Aaron made the comments about you that it was almost like she was like flattening this whole experience that you've lived into like one accusation that obviously you have you know strong feelings about but like that it's like that's a long period of your life that you've worked through all of the feelings about and that when it just gets thrown out it really is yeah and like the errands of the world have been the ones that have always taken those cheap shots

So if they can't get me in one way, they'll use a cheap shot like that. And if you notice in that scene, like, there's no empathy or compassion on her end. It's an evil smirk when I'm really upset and storm out. It's just an evil smile of like, I got you. I hurt you. Yeah. And you, so you left, you leave the house and then sigh came out and kind of talked to you through that moment and eventually, you know, got you to come back inside.

What was it like, you know, having sigh there through that? Was it helpful to have her kind of talking you through that moment? How did you experience that? It meant so much to me having, you know, at that point, I was still fairly new in the group. For sure. And for sigh to come out and really just like have that talk with me meant like, meant the world to me. And you could see I give her a hug and I tell her thank you because I was emotionally, emotionally like was not okay. And you do see the scene flattened, but Erin just kept coming at me.

She would not stop. When I was, the women were saying, you need to stop. You need to stop. She was not stopping. So I finally laughed. And when Sai came out, at the end, I hugged her. And it just meant so much to me. And it shows, it should show the viewers that sigh is a wonderful person.

That Sai has compassion, empathy. And someone who's been through pain can see another. who was struggling and she came out to really comfort me and say like, you know what, girl, don't let this, don't quit, don't let this bother you. Like, you got this. And it's, it meant a lot to me. I think, you know, talking about the last couple seasons of the show before you joined and the idea of like people being perfect or whatever, it's like, Sai maybe came on the show with that kind of vibe and then we're seeing her kind of navigate, hey, life isn't perfect and things can be challenging. And I think that that has made people understand her more and like connect to her more.

And it feels like, you know, you're kind of experiencing that really quickly on the show. But if anything, it makes people feel kind of like bought into like, okay, Haley's like a real person. And yeah, she says, you know, funny, quirky things sometimes, but also like if there's pain under that or if there's, you know, a struggle under that. Like, that's all of those layers are real. Yeah. And, you know, at the end of the day, we're all human beings. And, you know, people would be like, oh, Haley's a stoner, Haley's a pothead, but you could still be a stoner and still have qualities and be down to earth and be deep and be spiritual and

have depth to you. All because I use weed as a coping strategy. Forever and ever, baby. I'm going to be like the woman who's 65. By the way, I'm not 65 for those who do think I am. I have so many big boulders in my life and all everyone wants to focus on is she's not 60s? No, I'm not 60s. And if I, you really think I am, please contact Social Security Office so I could start collecting my checks. If you're, if you're in your 60s, you have taken

excellent care of yourself. Thank you. What can I say? It's genetics. It's so fun. I mean, people, I mean, that's the kind of thing where like maybe that's what hasn't changed in the last 15 years is like the second you're on TV, people are going to have every opinion. And you know, I got to be honest. It can't get worse than the cover of people magazine being, like home wrecking Haley, so it can only go up from here. Sure. So, you know, it's just you get to, sometimes like, like I said, you have to like someone's inability to see your value doesn't decrease it.

And I think that's very important for people to know whether, you know, it doesn't matter what you're going through. Just know that like if you're okay with the way you look and the way you navigate and who you are and you know you did your best at the end of the day, fuck everybody else. Excuse me. Am I? No, you're good. You know, it doesn't matter.

or what this one or that one has to, feels about you? Because on your deathbed, do you care what that person said about you? Right. No, you care about the way you lived and you chose how to live, you know? I felt for you that once you came back into that Seder dinner, there was, everybody else had their business to get through to us like, okay, now we're going to talk about the popcorn ceilings. Now we're going to talk about the Kennedy curse. It was very like, okay, we still got a lot of, a lot of stuff on the to-do list. What were your thoughts kind of?

It feels like Jessel earlier, early in this season has kind of a lot of her different comments about different things, whether it's Daisy's apartment, whether it's, you know, the Carol's stuff in her past. By the way, my eye is twitching. It's called the tired eye twitch. I think I get that too. I'm so tired, but it's fine. Go on. You're, you know, it's a tough life. You're on TV.

You got to talk about being on TV. You're filming the after show. I don't listen, but when people say, hey, are you still working? Bitch, this is a job. Like, are you guys, this is a job? It's a job. Yeah, we need to negotiate next season, but this is a job. It's a job.

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hand selected. And I get that I am not your typical mold of your casting for this franchise. I mean, we could just say it how it is. Sure. So, I think Jessel's just British. And like, she means well, and she's a lovely person. Like, she

doesn't mean to, you know, she's not out to hurt you. She's not out to get you. Jessus just doing her thing. And like, you know, she doesn't, it's not men in a nasty way. She's just like, you know, if she were to giggle or smile at the end of what she says, I think it would not fall so flat, you know? If she were like, hey, by the way, I forgot what she said.

I don't remember. Does anyone remember what was said? It was very like, you know, Carolyn Beset, Summer and I don't know. I have no idea. I don't even know what any of them were talking about. To be honest, I have never watched it. I don't know what they're talking about. but all I know is that Carol wasn't happy about that.

Right. But like maybe if there was a little giggle at the end, sometimes a little giggle softens it. I know. I didn't watch Love Story. And now I'm like, I did not realize that this show would be such a key part of the the Roney storyline this season. Maybe I should have done my homework.

Well, I don't even know where it's streaming. Is it still streaming? I think it's like Hulu, maybe. It's not on Bravo. That I know. No. No. But, you know,

I think, you know, I think she's a lovely person. She's, she's British. Yes. So, like, British has a different sense of humor. Right. You know, and hopefully all the British people don't come after me saying, we're not like that. We're not like that.

But to us, she's British. She's our posh spice. She's her posh spice. You know what I mean? She's our posh. I love that. You guys are about to embark on your first trip together as a group to Erica's island. Amazing.

What was it like kind of jumping? in with both feet, with these women that you're getting to know and doing that experience together. Look, I'm going to keep it real. I may not be the fittest and I may not be the strongest. And I, you know what, I may not be the most put together. But I'll tell you this, my odds of suffering the longest are strong. You know what I mean? Very strong with that.

I think Erica's Island was beautiful. Mm-hmm. I definitely brought my gummies with me because I don't want to bring flour and get arrested. I didn't know what the laws were. But it was, I don't want to give anything away, but it was Shutter Island. It was a trip that I will never forget. Yeah. I burnt my forehead off on that trip, too, from my hair iron.

I had to get a laser. I wore hats the rest of the season because I had a third degree burn on my forehead. You'll see. That's actually a good disclaimer because, you know, if you're wearing hats, people on Twitter or whatever are going to be like, why is she wearing a hat? I'm wearing a hat. I'm wearing headbands. I mean, people are calling me Mr. Miyagi over there. I like that. I feel like the headband is a good look for you, though. I like it. Like when you guys, when the three of you went to the, you know, Pilates class or boxing or whatever.

Yeah. It's a vibe. It's a lot. You know, it's just, I like it. I do. I feel like I've talked to a lot of people, though, about how when you go on a cast trip like that, even if the circumstances are different, it really, it's like. you go from zero to 100 with the group, with the experience of filming and stuff, because it's like, we're here. We're stuck here. You know, it's, you're plopped in a place and, you know, a vacation. And it really, it's kind of like being at overnight camp. Like, if anyone went to camp and you're kind of like, you can't leave unless your parents, like, take you out. So you're kind of trapped unless you get kicked out. But we won't go there. But the point is that you're there.

And it really wasn't terrible. But Erica's island is beautiful. And I made the best of it. Yeah. I don't want to give away too much. Yeah. But a lot happened on Mosquito Island. I, okay, I always am like, mosquito island.

I feel like I would rename it something a little shaker. I know. I was telling people I was going to St. Bards because I was too embarrassed. You know, like, where you go? I'm like St. Bart. You're like, just to the web. of some other island.

A lot happened, though. Yeah. Like, a lot went down. But I was just trying to, like, embrace being away from New York City on vacation. Yeah. You're like, look, this was free for me. I'm getting paid to be here. Well, not enough.

But the point is, like, you know, you are stuck with, you're not stuck. You're with, you know, it's hard being new. And I had to be like, oh, I'm going away with my girls. Well, that's the thing. Yeah, it's a different, I mean, even in not on a. TV show if you're traveling with people for the first time, you, you learn a lot. I'm telling you, I love my roommate. My roommate was Cy.

Okay. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. We had, you have to tune in. That's when things start to get good. Yeah, well, at least they didn't have like you and Aaron in bunk beds or something. That was not happening. Take baby steps there.

Are you still receiving jam every month in the mail? She actually never, that was just for, she never sent me one thing a jam. Oh. She never, that was another lie of hers that I never got my jam of the month. And by the way, it was boozy jam that she handed me. Right. And she still owes me money from Mosquito Island. I Vemmo requested her like two days ago to pay me back.

Yeah, you got to hit like Remind. Yeah, I've been well requested her. But I'm sure that check will come in the mail with her manager's check. Okay. I want to talk a little bit about your mom because she's been on the show already and we've gotten to see a little bit of you guys together. Shit, my eyes twitching even more now. She seems like a riot.

She is very funny. But you guys also have a complicated dynamic. Yeah. And I'm curious just for you, like, were you kind of nervous to bring that dynamic, that part of your life onto the show, or was it just kind of natural for you? That wasn't supposed to be, that wasn't supposed to like be part of the show. Okay. She, like, didn't initially come in for a while and then ended up coming in.

But that was just, I'm trying to, I'm trying to talk about it to where, you know, looks like I'll be spending holidays alone, you know. Maybe no more bird watching in the near future. But, you know, I think all mother-daughter relationships are complicated. For sure. And I think you pair, like, you know, the genera. before, like, I don't know how old you are, but the generation before me was having children very young. That was the thing. So I think a lot of like us millennials and whatnot have parents, mothers who had children young before they were able to sort through their trauma and their issues.

So then they just had kids when they were kids and never actually grew past that. So I think that's where the complication of, you know, kind of either whether it being all about like, just they can't see outside of their own lens of stuff. But like, you know, having a lot of kids doesn't come with an instruction manual, and I think all mothers do their best. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I feel like when you're, when you're in a public platform like this, like it's, it's sometimes hard to figure out exactly what is the, like, right way to present something or, you know, to kind of open up about different aspects of your life. And I mean, you, you have, you have tough experience with that in your past. And so I think now that you're like doing it in

this way. It's like, okay, what's the, what's the exact right way to like, because you have to do it in a way that works for you? Like, there's no playbook. You know, there really isn't no exact right way, but yeah, I decided that I was going to buy one way train ticket and that was it. And here we go. And, and look, the Bravo, the Bravo fans, the Bravo audience, they've, they've been through a roller coaster over the last 20 years and it's, you know, they're, if they're, if they have the ticket on the train to, they're going to ride with you. Look, sometimes you have to jump the cliff and just pray for water at the bottom. And that's really what it is. And like we live in a society that, you know, everyone's so obsessed with whether your financial status, your social class, you're this,

you're that. And at the end of the day, I think we've lost sight of like the importance of like your character and who you are as a person and your core. And I think people look for all the wrong things in friendships and relationships. And I just wanted to make it apparent that like the things and I value are not your stereotypical, how do I put this, your stereotypical type of thing that like an average housewife would admire and value. And it's funny because it's like you think of it as being like outside the norm for a housewife or something. But I think like from watching all of these shows, it's like the more different types of people

and the more different backgrounds and life experiences you have in a group, the more interesting it's going to be to watch because you're seeing people navigate different types of things. You're seeing people have to figure out who, how do I get along with somebody that comes from a different, you know, situation or sees, has different priorities or values. Like it's, it's, I mean, that's kind of what life is like, but having it, you know, on the show, I think it makes it richer. Intensified. Yeah.

And people love a good, you know, people use housewives to relax. I personally, it stressed me out. I never watched the housewives. I'm going to be honest. But I think there's a level of like putting people who are different on there. Each person can relate to each character in their own way. So like I live a colorful life and I own who I am. And I am authentic about my faults, whether they be the good, the bad, the ugly.

Like I am putting it all out there. And maybe because of my tabloid situation, I have a bit of thicker skin. and I'm just like, whatever, you know, it is what it is. Judge me if you may. I'm not paralyzing my life anymore. I'm moving forward whether you want to hop on that train or not. That's on you. But I'm jumping the clip, bitch.

You're like, my train's been, you know, it's gone everywhere. Yeah, this train's off. Something that we like to do is I love looking back on Getty images and seeing where people have come from and been in the past. And you have some fun ones, I would say, from. 15, 16 years ago. And I would love to talk about this, um, this look. That was a terrible look. And back then, John and I were trapped in, we had paparazzi ever. That's when paparazzi was crazy. We couldn't leave in our apartment. Yeah. To this day, blame him for gaining weight. We couldn't leave our apartment. We could only like have pizza taken. And we couldn't leave because what,

the Ed Hardy shirt was the moment. I mean. And I brought, I actually brought that out. Eric had a Y2K party, I brought it back. The Ed Hardy shirt, the Ugg Boots. I mean, this is a vibe. I mean, I actually won like the worst outfit of the year in that outfit. I'm not going to lie. I like someone posted. About Jvon Honor.

I got to be honest, I think it was Joan Rivers who was alive back then and she pulled me up saying it was the, it's somewhere that I had the worst. That was the worst outfit she had ever seen. You know what would drive some of your co-stars crazy is knowing that Joan Rivers knew who you were? I love her. I know she's passed.

She's my dream blunt rotation. I was just talking about her. Yes. But like, I swear if I die one day, I'm going to find her and we're going to smoke. The problem is whenever I see the grim reaper, he winks at me, I wink at him. He won't take me because he knows if I get up there, he'll be unemployed. So he's not taking me. I'm going to be here a very long time.

That'll be, you know, like we said, you're not in your 60s, so it'll be a long time from now. But, you know, when people write, people write me like, like, I cannot believe you're, I mean, I have so many colorful aspects of my life. Yeah. Being a lavender marriage isn't that. And the only thing people are like, I can't believe that bitch is not 65. I'm just like, well, I feel 65, to be honest. You're like, I've been through it.

I've been through it. I feel 65 in New Yorkers. We don't age as gracefully as. It's a different life. It's a rough. It's a harsher life, the climate. Yeah. The constant chaos.

Yeah. And also, I'm white. We age like a banana in the sun. So like, hate all you want. And people want to say about like cosmetic work and this and that. At the end of the day, like cosmetic work, look, burkin bags. You can say whether you love them, think they're ugly or not, they're still expensive. So whether you like what I look like or not, it's still expensive.

Well, and also, I think a burken bag looks better with a little bit of wear and tear on it. I like, what are you saying, bitch? When you're in your 60s, you can wear it with pride. No, the good thing is is that I'll probably. probably looks similar as I get over. If you have the Birken bag for 20 years and you never take it out of the closet, I think that's lame. Yeah.

You got to use it. Like the Olson twins. They like throw it around. They treat it like it's a coach bag. Right. Life is short. No offense. Tenor.

Wait, someone had a coach bag. No offense to someone. It's a high low. But I don't know what, not to go off topic here. But when I think a coach, I think like of high school, I know they're trying to make a come back, but it's not, it's not going to happen, coach. Like, it's not going to happen, Coach. Okay, well, you know. Sorry, I had to go on a tangent because still when I see coach, I think. And there, and there we go. There's the housewife coming out. Sorry, I couldn't help it, but I'm not a fashion

snob at all. Like, I really live in a white beater and, like, I just love living in, like, skims, like, I just, I'm chill, but, like, my one thing is, like, coach. What's, what's your, like, what's your favorite bag? Like, what's your... I like my Birken. You like your Birken. I have a gray one with, like, my Hermes scarf wrapped around it. I really love that bag. See, and that's...

Like, if I were just going out, I think I just grab a Gucci bag. Okay. Or Gucci Fanny. Because I just wrap it, you know, wrap it, like, around here and run out. Hands free. Easy, pizy. Yeah. What about you?

You know, I have, I have different bags that I like. I actually, I'm going to Paris next month, and I am like, I feel like I should get something while I'm there because it's like good conversion and you get the tax back. Say Goiard, but like I feel like everyone's like Goiard's played out. I don't know. I've seen issues with the quality.

Really? Yeah. Like the handlebook? The canvas, yeah. Yeah. I saw some girls with that. I just assumed they had fake bags. But is it really you think? I don't know. I don't know. And never show anyone that picture, by the way. I thought that was buried. Sheesh. Maybe that's so goody images.

Oh, there's so many bad photos. Can we take more photos? I need to bury those. Yeah, you'll have some more in the next few months. It's populating. Oh my gosh. I have some really awful pictures. Like, honestly, really awful.

But people love a housewife at the mugshot. And I love that you own it. Oh, yeah. People write me all the time. Like, hey, by the way, love your mugshot, but why were you smiling? And I, the same reason I was arrested. I was high. What do you mean?

Why was I smiling? You're like, keep it moving. Focus on your own stuff. Oh, my gosh. I don't think I could say. I can't go. The state of Indiana, I got a seatbelt ticket. I think there was a warrant for my arrest for the longest time.

So I don't think I could go to the state of Indiana still. Do you really want to? No, I don't. Exactly. But if they offer me like a club appearance fee, like I may go. And I do. You got to fly in and out the same day. But if I had a new mug shot, I would do like more of a fierce look.

I'd be like, I'd call my glam team. And I'd more, I'd be like. it wouldn't be a smile or I'd be like maybe a little one. Yeah, like a little bit of like a smile. Like a little one. Yeah. But not like this full blown like, well. Well, and the brows, of course, would be.

Don't get me started. That's my only regret in life. Yeah. Regret with trauma. It was the luck back then. It was the look. And look, and look, you came out the other side. Yeah, thanks to microblading.

So I was taking those sugar bear hair. Does anyone remember the sugar bear hairs? There was a whole thing that were delicious. All the Kardashians were posting about them. They were like mean mug and trying to like sell them. But anyway, they tasted really good. So I bought them like biolting, whatever, except they didn't tell you the disc there was no disclaimer like about how the hair only grows on your head.

So I was taking them for like a year or two. Next thing I know, yeah, it helped my hair. But then it also gave me a few chin hairs. So I stopped taking them. Yeah, it's like I wanted these in one specific spot. Yeah, like the hair and the brows. But then I didn't expect the chin hairs to come. So you got a double-edged sword.

I stopped taking them. Shout out to Sugar Bear. Tell me about the rest of the season. We have a lot to go. Obviously, we're going to see Mosquito Island. Oh, my gosh. How are we feeling about just like watching the season back? Are you enjoying it?

Are you kind of like I'll check in when I, when it feels right? Well, I'm not big on TV. I like to live in my own bubble. But obviously like the last episode is like it's a little hard because like it's the one thing that like Like I had said, that if you could pinpoint a moment in your life where a piece of you died, like, you know what I mean? You could go back. That would be that whole situation.

And to have it thrown in my face in such a nasty, evil manner, malicious manner, like at that Passover cedar, it's hard to watch back. Yeah. You know, and it's hard knowing that, like, you know, everyone on that, all the women knew that that's something that really, really hurt me. She should know better. I don't just feel bad for her daughter, to be honest. But we won't get into that. But, you know, I think the season went great. I think it's extraordinarily entertaining.

Yeah. You know, I live through it. And I think the women are, I think the majority of the women are great people. Yeah. You know, and, you know, I still, like, I talked to Sigh every single day. That's great. You know? I'm excited to see it.

I think people are really enjoying the season and I think you have a lot to do with it. And I can't wait to see the rest. You're going to love it. Thanks, Haley. Thank you. Thank you, Betches. Thanks everyone for watching. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like un-cooled. Bye, hos. And also, smoke again.