Mention It All - Heartbreak At The Coupon Cabin (RHONJ, Summer House)

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

Turns out love might be dead, because Tinsley and Scott’s engagement is officially over. Dylan and Bari kick off a packed show by weighing in on Tinsley’s possible return to RHONY, and sharing some updates on Madison LeCroy’s A-Rod involvement. Next, they recap RHONJ, and discuss why Michelle has the world’s worst vibes. Jackie skips another group event, Margaret gets deep while working on her book, and Jennifer gets… hammered. Finally, they get into Summer House, where Hannah and Kyle have fixed their issues (for now), and Lindsay and Luke might be getting too close for everyone else’s comfort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, boo? And Barry Rosenfeld. I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep week. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer.

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld. Happy Friday. It's a windy Friday over here. Oh, it's windy for you. It's just cold for me. We have like wind advisories. It's scary. Oh my gosh.

It's not windy at all here. I'm just glad because it was originally supposed to snow today and that is not happening anymore. That's over. It's canceled. I know. Also, we're making it seem like Dylan and I are on two ends,

two different ends of the country. We're like 40 minutes away from each. Well, I mean, we're not like in the same place. I know. Weather is wild that way. Like you can cross the street and it's not raining anymore.

Weather is. What's our favorite haiku about weather? Salt Lake City. Oh, Whitney and Heather, bad weather, tornado, spin the truth, destroy. Shout out to Lisa Barlow, we miss you. Yes. Okay, today we're going to recap New Jersey and Summer House. Before we get into that, we have a very exciting announcement to talk about.

We are launching a mention-it-all newsletter. So your favorite Bravo recaps, funny stuff, all of it. It's going to be in a once a week email launching in just a couple of weeks. I'm going to be writing it myself. So, you know, if you're, if you don't hate me, subscribe to this newsletter. You can subscribe at betches.com slash bravo newsletter. Go sign up now so you can get the first email when it comes out. It'll also be on our social media and everything.

So you can, you'll be able to find it if you want to. But yeah, it's going to be exciting. And I think you guys will really like it. I'm so excited to read that. Dylan, because you do write great recaps. So I'm excited. But in other news, transitioning over, we have some sad news to talk about, which is that Tinsley and Scott broke up for the, what we think the final time is. I think this is it. I feel like, I want like sad music to be playing in the background right now. We can, maybe we can ask, we can ask that we plugged out. But the thing we're

And I'm going to delete our episode. Pretty little voice. It is. It sounded great. I read an article that he, this is like, they break up and he dates other women and then they get back together because they want to be together. And I'm like, huh? Okay. So it's interesting.

So the news broke yesterday and Scott officially confirmed it. Like he said that they're not together anymore. So it's not like some report. It's not like a rumor that they are not together. But then after the fact. All of these sources then started coming forward. So every kind of tabloid has its own story about like a source close to the couple said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And so there are kind of differing reports. I think most people seem to be an agreement that Scott was the one who ended it. But there's a disagreement. I mean. I mean, there seems to be questions over how long they've been split up, whether this was kind of a one-time thing or whether they've really been on and off, you know, kind of the whole time. But I think the overarching thing is I think most people just feel bad for Tinsley because

she really, she thought she was, you know, leaving town for her fairy tale and it has gone wrong. And, you know, she left the show. She left New York. And it seems like it seems like she, it really didn't turn out how she wanted it to. And I do feel bad for her. I, 100% feel bad. We love Tinsley.

She's like a fan favorite. She's a great housewife. but Dylan and I were texting yesterday and I think it's so funny. Like everyone like we're so, we're so sad. Like this sucks. And we're like, so is she coming back as a New York housewife or what? Like perfect story. Plugged Tinsley right in.

Literally like I feel like the entire response on social media was like, oh, poor Tinsley. Now come back to Routy. I know. Honestly, we need her. I love her and Leah together. Like Tinsley needs to come back. And honestly, I can see it. I can see it.

I agree. Obviously, they've filmed season 13 already. So she's not going to be on this current season. But I mean, if they're going to start filming again in like six months, it would kind of be a perfect storyline to have her sort of coming back to New York with her tail between her legs a little bit and sort of starting fresh. Honestly, that's how we saw her first season on Roney. And kind of building herself back up. I personally, I think that Tinsley brought a lot to the show, even though she wasn't always the most kind of like, you know, over the top or, you know, dramatic housewife.

I did really enjoy what she brought to the show. And I think she definitely left in a way, while they might not have been happy that she left in the middle of the season. It was iconic. She didn't leave because she had nothing left to give on the show. She left because of her relationship. And so it wouldn't be weird for her to come back. Right. and that can't work for everyone like it did for Tinsley.

Like that was, people were like applauding that exit. I know. They gave her, I will say, you know, they might not be happy behind closed doors that she left in the middle of the season, but they gave her a very gracious send-off. So it seems like there's probably not a whole lot of bad blood. And to be honest, Tinsley is one of the more well-known New York Housewives outside of the show itself. People have heard of her. People, she has, you know, an audience. So I don't know.

She's a New York socialite. An OG. An OJ. Also really quick, because I feel like we didn't mention this in the beginning of the week with the fact that Arod and Arod and J-Lo announced didn't, but it was announced that they broke up. Then the whole internet was freaking out. Then the next day, they're like, we're not broken up. We're just working through things.

While Madison is now taking selfies on vacation, watching the world burn. And I felt bad because I was like, is this actually truly because of her? But it's funny because last time I watched it happens live, Shep was on it, happened to be on it. And he was like, it's so funny.

He's like, our little show, because Southern Charm, you know, is not Housewives, it's not Vanderpom. He's like, our little show is on the cover of magazines now.

So like the rest of the cast is like loving this attention because everyone's like, what Southern Charm? I feel like Bravo, those producers are probably calling the cast and being like, get back to Charleston. Now, we need to start filming like next week.

If they are not, if they're not like fast tracking whatever filming plans, I don't know what their schedule is, but they're not because he said that. I know, but he's like, I guess the boys were just filming Winterhouse. Exactly.

I don't know. Exactly, Dylan. They need to listen to you like, hello, do you guys not see this? Like as a legitimate. There's like, I can't remember what. Viewer increase. I can't remember what moment it's from,

but there's that picture of a producer just being like, I need Andy. a camera. It's like that's what we like send Andy to wherever Madison is, do an hour long. They need the Oprah interview, to be honest. Like we need a two hour sit down. Well, and okay, one more thing than we're done with Madison because you know how I feel. I know how you feel in another in another article. So that was Watcht Happens Live in an article he said the NDA did exist like their pair allegedly but not allegedly it did exist. The NDA and that it was seemed that he pursued her.

Yeah, that sounds right. I feel like there's alleged, there's like two types of allegedly. There's like allegedly, like, who knows if it's true, but I'm just going to say it. And there's allegedly where it's like, I know for a fact it's true, but I still don't want to get sued. I'm going to plug the word allegedly in there. You can read between the lines and figure out which one it is usually. Correct. Okay, we must get into New Jersey and Summerhouse because there's, wait, what? I have like word vomit. You're going to kill me because it's just, I have to get it in there. I have to.

I know this is a Bravo account, but we have to talk about two things that happened last night, which was overserved Lisa Vanderpump, which was not good, okay, moving on. And then keeping up with the Kardashians final season, they used the word final in the intro.

I didn't watch it yet. It is final. I'll give you an overview. It was literally about Scott and Sophia and their breakup and about Chloe and her, her pregnancy process. That was really what the episode was. That was actually very good. I suggest watching it.

I obviously revolve my life around it. Oh, okay. That was my review of keeping up the Kardashians in five different O's. I actually, I am, like, lightly planning on watching this season just because I feel like it's important. No guarantees I'll get to it like right away. But overserved with Lisa Vanderpump. It's a no for me.

I watched. It's not good. I had a screener of the first episode, so I watched it a call. couple weeks ago and it just was like forced. Without so I, when I watched it, it was without commercials or anything. So it was like 20 minutes long and I still felt like I

couldn't get through it. Like I still was like forced. I still was like pausing it to do other things. And it's just I. It wasn't the Lisa we know. It was like she made herself a different character and I don't like that. I think it would, it might have been better if they kind of leaned into the hosting

and like kind of cooking, decorating all of that aspect because that I think is kind of like fun and you feel like she is kind of better at that. But the celebrity guest thing just like isn't working for me. I don't think she's great at kind of connecting with those guests. It felt like she was reading off of note cards about Vivica A Fox. Fox. Like I don't think she knew anything about her. It was the first time they met. Yeah, it was so strange. But to be honest, honestly, I'm going to connect it to Bravo in some way because it did feel like below deck where she changes the theme and the table scapes for each guest that she has.

And I was like, okay. Wait, it's funny also because the theme of her first dinner party was Provence. And she said that Provence is one of her favorite places. And my friend pointed out to me that Provence is actually the Beverly Hills trip that she skipped because she didn't want to be with Kyle and Teddy. So, Lisa, you had a free trip to Provence that you just noped out on, but whatever. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session. And this summer, Prime Originals have everything you want.

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And then the pool party at the end was clearly like the main event. We have Joey's birthday at the shore and there's a dinner with Teresa and Kim and Lisa. Kim and Lisa are like the weirdest side characters to me because they have been around for so long. But just I guess they probably don't want to be that involved in the show if they aren't at this point. but like they just bring nothing for me. To be honest, though, I do like to see how far they've come with Teresa. Because when Melissa and her were in their prime fighting, obviously they hated Teresa because they were on Melissa's side.

But to see them laughing and after all these years like coming and like being friends, I love that. They reminded going back all those years to when they were kind of like, you know, coming at Teresa, it reminded me of like Melissa. was Ursula and then Kim and Lisa were the two little eels, flotsam and jetsam that kind of swim around her. That was Kim and Lisa to me. I can't ever get that image out of my head. I am so impressed that you, that number one, I didn't know there were names, but that you knew the names of the eels. I mostly know that because of the musical.

Like Little Mermaid then was like a stage, whatever. Okay. We won't get into it. So basically, Joey tells Teresa that she needs to basically figure shit out with Jackie. which I appreciate because everyone knows that Joey is the only person who can really talk sense to Teresa. So I thought it was good that that little moment happened. Teresa's having a pool party. Everyone's invited, including Jackie and including Michelle, which Melissa is like, uh, what?

It is funny because Melissa, like, stopped dead in their tracks because, of course, Teresa was like, here, Melissa, you send the text message. So it was truly heartfelt from Teresa's end. It was such a weird moment that they're sitting at the table together. And Teresa's like, Melissa, you write the text. I'm sorry, you can tell, though, Teresa was dropped. Teresa had drinks in her. Like, you can tell by her pitch of her voice when she's drunk.

It's so funny. But so Melissa stopped dead in her tracks when she goes, you're inviting Michelle. Hello. I'm sending an olive branch to someone you're not friends with, but you're inviting Michelle. Hello. Insert production. Of course, Michelle is going to be invited.

to the pool party. If you go into the text inbox, there's a separate one from Bravo that's like, Michelle must be at the pool party. Yeah, it's funny. Like, when Melissa's like, you can invite your weird friend yourself. Like, I'm not putting her on this text, which smart. Like, she shouldn't be in the group text. I will, I just like, am not liking Michelle's vibe at all.

I mean, no. I remember back when they were filming in the fall, there were all of the, you know, there's always when they're filming like rumors about who the new cast is, like you see photos of them at events and stuff. And it seemed for a minute, like Michelle was like the new housewife. Yeah. And I remember kind of like looking into her being like, oh, she's a realtor. Like she looks fun. Like she, whatever looks like she would fit in with this group. And I am, I don't know if they were ever trying to cast her for real, but watching this season now, I am so glad they didn't because I just, it's bad vibes whenever she's on screen. I'm not. A

fan. Yeah. There's more of her at the pool party. We'll get to that. But we want to talk about Margaret and her ghostwriter, which I thought that was a beautiful scene. I loved how vulnerable and open Margaret was. And it's so funny, I don't think out of every single Bravo Leopardy who has a book, which is a lot of them, we've never really seen, correct me if I'm wrong, that because they all let us know that they wrote their book, which we know is not the case. but like it's interesting to put the recorder on the table they meet a bunch of times they just like talk and then it like turns into a book so it is like storytelling 101 I appreciate that obviously I think Margaret is great I no doubt she has gone through a lot of really interesting

stuff I'm excited to actually um read more of her book because I feel like a lot of these bravo liberty books it's kind of like I maybe there's some tea about the show but like other than that I don't really care. I actually am I'm interested to see what Margaret's book kind of has. It comes out in a few weeks and I think we're going to have her on the podcast, hopefully, so stay tuned. Yes. But yeah, like I appreciate that she is showing this because having her like, obviously

it's interesting what she's talking about, but showing her talking to her co-author and doing this recording process, she can talk about the book so much more authentically because she's not pretending that she just like sat down with a word document and wrote 30,000 words. Right. And yeah. That's not realistic. And I appreciate, I think it's smart that she's letting us in because then we can actually see these conversations versus her being like, so I wrote a book. It's about me.

There's lots of good stories. And it's like just like cut it out. Yeah. But she did open up about Joe and like how he's her first like amazing, basically. supportive adult relationship and man and honestly it was so nice because like we love joby like he's he really is like so kind and cute and nice well it's it's interesting hearing her talk about her past relationship with um why jan jane josephs because we've seen jan on the show they clearly they don't you know they still get along to a degree and so it's it's interesting

to get a little more context for what kind of didn't work in their relationship And she said that he was quite a bit older and they were always fighting about money and he was he kind of had the control in the relationship and You know, Margaret Joseph's is not somebody who needs to be controlled trust and believe No, and I love when the ghostwriter I'm sorry I keep calling her that but that's what it said under me So she came in and margaret goes sorry we're renovating can I get you a drink That fucking iced coffee in a wine glass with a straw gets me every time I love I love that for her. I know, but we know you're renovating, Margaret, we know.

Like, when is it? Is this going to do? It's just, yeah, this is it. This is how it's going to be. But this, we got to go to this pool party. Okay. Jersey Shore not themed birthday party. I mean, pool party. We got to go to the pool party, but you know who didn't got to go to the pool party was Jackie.

Yeah. I got to say, I wish she would have gone. I understand kind of the, I understand the reason she didn't. don't want to go, but I think from a show standpoint, I just wish it's hard because it's like, I, I like Jackie a lot. I want her to, you know, have a great season. I'm kind of rooting for her. But at a certain point, you just have to show up. So I, I don't know. I agree. I see kind of both sides where I would or wouldn't show up. So I think she should, she should have because it's an

icebreaker. There's people there. You can, you know, kind of just like move on. And then I don't because there's alcohol flowing. You haven't had the conversation yet. Like it could not go the way you want it. So and Jackie of all people we know her, there was not a chance in hell. She was going to that pool party.

There wasn't. I didn't even think twice that she was going to that. Especially with Evan. Jackie's one of those people where it's like she's not desperate for the spotlight. She's not desperate for the camera time. If she doesn't show up in this episode much, it's not that big of a deal to her. And I think that's great for her. I'm happy for her that she's not like desperate.

But in terms of the show, sometimes it works to our advantage to have people that are really like hungry for the spotlight. Because then they're never going to miss an event, even if they're just getting, you know, dragged through the mud and the shit kicked out of them. It's like, no, I got to be there. Like, it's going to be a good scene. Yeah, and the thing I didn't like, obviously, when Teresa acts like this is like when she was like, all right, well then she can go fuck herself then. And I'm like, no, that's not like, Teresa, you have to understand. And that and this is we've seen Teresa do this before too. Trees is like, okay, I'm done. No, like she just didn't want to come to the pool party. You guys can still talk after.

I think Jackie now has to be the one to be like, hey, listen, I didn't want to come. Like, can we talk another time? So the ball is now in her court. But I think the way Teresa just, like, throws her hand and gives up is like, no, that's not how it works. Right. I wish Jackie would have come to the party. But I also understand that you can extend an olive branch in a way that's not just like come to my big event. Like, let's actually talk about stuff.

Speaking of talking about stuff at the big event, let's talk about Joe and John Pais, I think their last name is. So they actually... No, their last name is like some long... I begin to the K, like some long... Michelle's last name is Paius. I promise.

Do they have two different last names? I'm telling you. Maybe. Her name is Michelle Pais. This is not important. So they talk and they actually really settled. their issue like adults and you know they kind of quickly get to the bottom of where the misunderstanding was and seem to really you know put it aside meanwhile michel is going over to talk

to the women and she's like just trying to stir up drama and it's hilarious that she's being messy and then they look over and they're like oh i guess our husband's made up like okay okay so the thing is about this conversation is it was very bizarre Like it was it was definitely just for filming because they the the or they were showing how guys can just settle their fights like very quickly. I'm not getting into details with what they were talking about because I truly think it was ridiculous. I honestly thought Joe Gorga made himself look not good to be honest. Like and but at the same time, everything needs to be in writing. Are you guys kidding?

Especially when it comes to money. You do not handshake things like that. And also Joe, the fact that Joe was like, no, I meant moving forward, not that event. And I was like, all right, this was just not a good luck. All of this should be in a contract somewhere. Very bizarre. And so, but they settled it. It was good.

But you're right. Comparing the women, Melissa was like, Michelle, come here. And it was annoying to me a little bit that Melissa, like, she, like, wanted a start of, like, argument. And I was like, that's it. Come on. Melissa, like, stop. And Michelle actually handled it better than.

And Melissa did. She did, except for, she's saying that it has nothing to do with them, which is like, okay, but then Michelle, like, why were you gossiping about it? Jennifer? So it's, it's honestly pretty similar to what happened with Jackie and Teresa that, like Teresa was telling everyone this rumor. Michelle was telling Jennifer. And it's like, okay, but if it actually has nothing to do with you, then stay out of it. Don't talk about it. Don't tell other people.

Yeah. And it's the same. with the Evan rumor that whether or not Michelle made it up or started it or was trying to be messy, she's the reason that the group is talking about it. So whether or not you are, you know, whether or not you did something like super wrong, you can at least own the fact that you're like the source of the conversation within the group. But, you know, they settle their issue, whatever. I will be curious to see how much Michelle is around from now on because she is I guess going to be selling Teresa's house, but other than that, it doesn't seem like she really has

much of a reason to be around, but you never know. Yeah, and I love how part of the making up process was that Michelle sells Teresa's house. Like, how is this involved in the whole John thing? You know, I don't know. But of course, the last thing we need to talk about is Ms. Jennifer Aiden getting absolutely just smashed off of tequila. I have not seen someone get drunk like that in a while. I mean, Deandra was close on Tuesday's Dallas episode, but nowhere, nowhere quite at that level of Jen. When Jen was drinking the water bottle and it was just on her top lip and it was pouring out.

Or the entire water bottle down her stomach. So here's the thing. She kept going around the whole day being like, I'm on cloud nine. Like she, this was her time to get out away from the kid. She was like making pretend. She was on vacation. Like she went to a pool party, living it up. But listen, it's never, it, it's hard to judge when things like this happened because

if it happens one time, okay, it's funny. Like she got so drunk, she had to be carried out, whatever. And she was a good sport about it and was laughing about it herself on Watcher Upens Live. She was like, you know, because what are you going to do? She's like, was it a good look? No, it happened. Whatever. It was funny.

But Andy, I love when Andy's like. can't hide his expressions and he's like, your, your drunk was better than, than your husband's. Like, no, it wasn't a good luck at all, but, like, she had fun. Mama had fun. She had fun, but she said she doesn't remember the pool party.

Doesn't remember it. So did she have fun? I don't know. I don't know. It looked like she was having fun until she wasn't. But, you know, I love to see that. I feel like that's going to be all of us this summer after we get vaccinated. But of course, of course, responsibly and safely we're not promoting overconsumption.

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And they go outside. And I love how everyone in the house just eavesdrops constantly. They're, like, looking over balconies and out windows. And no conversation is truly private in this house. No, but we have to call out the best line of the entire episode was Paige when she was eavesdropping. And she said, this isn't a set. I put this together. If you guys were wondering while they're laying on the top.

And I was like, that was iconic. She's having up, Paige is having a great season this season. this season. Okay. So this- Hannah is not. This Hannah and Kyle thing, it goes to shit very quickly because

basically Kyle is saying that he doesn't have that much of an issue with Hannah. He just doesn't like when she talks shit about his relationship. And basically he says that like as his friend, he wants her to just like not do that. and Hannah's response to that is basically like, well, I'm not your friend. We're not friends. And you're like, constant, you're like mean to me yelling at me. You're like acting like my dad, which of course, she brings up the dad word.

And so she's like way more mad at him than he is at her. And then so Kyle is just like, okay, like, why am I in the same sentence as your dad? And Hannah, that is a trigger in whatever state of my. mine she's in and she just starts screaming about don't bring up my family don't talk about my dad don't talk about my family ever storms out or in I guess back to the house and I had whiplash watching this fight because I'm like what just happened I actually had to rewind and be like I don't think he talked about her family and he didn't he literally I mean he said the word dad because he was referencing what she just said but nobody is talking about any real family like it was

So wild. He didn't even, he wasn't even talking about, like what you just said. He, like, basically repeated what you, he was questioning. He actually said, why am I in the same breath as your dad? And that, she acknowledged the fact that that was, she was 100% wrong. She acknowledged it. She, yeah, she brought it up later on the show. And then also on watch what happens live.

She basically was like, yeah, I don't know what the fuck was happening with me. And I was like. She was triggered. She was bottled up a lot of emotion. and that is, I don't know. Like you mentioned, she was on with Shep and Shep was like, yeah, Hannah, I don't know what you, like, that was,

that was crazy because, but even Andy called her out. Andy said, like, she's not a good, or I don't want to, like, mess up what he said about mental health, but he was like, you're, like, not a good, like, vision for mental health, like, this season. It is interesting. She's laughing.

She was laughing at herself, like, it's all good fun. She mentioned, though, that this was like, they had been in the house for, like, 35 days or something, at this point. And I totally get how it would be kind of work, do a number on your brain to be like stuck for that long. I haven't, you know, obviously we've spent a lot of time inside in the last year, but I haven't been like literally, you know, stuck in a house for 35 days. Right. But okay. So then we're all upstairs like in the kitchen and Hannah comes and it is this apology that was basically Oscar where.

it was laughable. It was, I don't know how to explain. Yes, it was very weird. Like she, she, the first half was great. She apologized. She said,

I feel like I've had some, like, basically lashed out of people and she's apologized for that and any harm that she's caused in the house. Okay, fine. End it there. Then she proceeds to just direct it to Kyle and say,

and the fake tears are still coming. And she said, you're the man. And then they showed every they showed each person's face in the house. And it was, I love those scenes when it doesn't involve. Oh, sorry. And they FaceTime Carl in because his quarantine wasn't up yet. So Carl was still there.

But like I loved that it wasn't a conversation for anyone. That was Hannah's conversation to have. So it's like no one is going to say anything. So they all were just silent. It was like how every single person in the house is. like, what the fuck is Hannah saying? And Luke is like, damn, that's deep. Like, Luke was like, right.

Luke was like on the same wavelength that it's like, what is going on? He has to stop singing. He's like, damn, I can't even remember the lyrics to my own songs. And he's like, girl, you smile. It makes me go wild. I'm like, I. All right, Luke. I'm glad, though, that, I'm glad though that Hannah and Kyle hopefully will kind of

of be able to be in a little more chill of a place, at least for a little bit, you know, because it's, for the last few episodes, it's been, the tension level has been very high. And I feel like now we can let some other stuff have kind of the spotlight. I like in this house, there's a lot of people. We can kind of have like a rotating basis of like sort of who's on the hot seat. And it was like the love triangle at the beginning and then this Kyle, Hannah Amanda stuff. and now we have a whole thing going down with Luke and Lindsay and I don't know if I'm ready for it. It's crazy because Luke, okay, I kind of feel bad for Luke in some scenes because he is just trying to like, hey, like he has that sporty relationship with Hannah.

So he was like, do you want to like shoot? Like he's just kind of trying to be like a friend. I don't know. That's how I'm seeing it during the day at least. He's like you want to just like play a sport, whatever. And then he asked Sierra at night. to like watch a movie. No,

because I think it was, I think it was hockey at that, at that time. Oh my goodness. I thought you like couldn't think of the word for tennis. No, no. He asked like whatever game he was playing at that moment he asked.

And then like, sorry. And then see, he texted Sierra like, hey, do you want to watch a movie? Which like the timing of that late at night, probably no,

but Sierra was like, fuck no. But like he's kind of just like being turned down by everyone friend wise also. So I think that's why he's like, you know what? I'm going to swoop in on Lindsay. And,

have someone acknowledge my presence. I know what you mean that it's like he came into the house thinking, oh yeah, like I'm good buddies with Hannah or whatever he thought was going on there. I'm probably like going to have a thing with Sierra, you know, and then all of a sudden they fail, fail. Right. So he with kind of the people that he thought he was closest to, he's sort of like damaged goods at this point. Like they want their space from him still. And yeah. I mean, I don't think making a move on Lindsay is the best choice. But I do, I get what you're saying, that it's, it makes sense why that would sort of be his impulse if he's feeling, you know, lonely slash horny slash whatever. Right.

Right. So they have this little beach day, which their beach days, like, stress me out because they pack a hundred things. They go to this like one pebble of sand. It like it really just like I don't know it makes me feel a certain type of way. It's yeah, it's not fun. So Lindsay and Lindsay calls Stephen and they're done. They broke up. They're like that it was a it was a quick, nice, pleasant phone call it seemed,

which should have happened a long time ago. A little too quick, a little too pleasant for Sierra's taste. Yeah, she was like, what the fuck? She's like, why is Lindsay like smiling right now? Also that phone call was pretty quick. Well, it seems that Lindsay. has been when you compare the timeline and look at the phone call and everything that she has clearly been checked out a while ago.

Yeah, totally. So then the whole psychic thing kind of I got confused about because Hannah talks to the psychic and apparently she sends messages or text messages when she has like a thought. I don't know. So she like gets this message on her phone from the psychic that she tells Paige about that Lindsay and Luke have slept together. But we don't know the timeline. We don't know when.

We don't know anything. So people have been saying like at the beach day, whatever, people are saying that it seems like Luke is flirting with Lindsay. Maybe they're flirting with each other. But the insinuation with this text from the psychic, which I want to know how that works. Like Hannah said on Watch What Happens Live that she doesn't pay this woman. So I'm like, okay, does she just like,

is she just like thinking? about you 24-7? I don't know. The sort of insinuation is that they slept together before coming to the house, aka Lindsay cheated on Stephen with Luke, and Luke and Stephen were good friends, I guess. So it's, I mean, if that's the case and that's sort of being alleged, as we would say, that's pretty sketchy,

but at the same time, it's like, I don't know. I mean, a text from a psychic is not the same as like receipts. So. I mean, okay, but then she kind of had us where she's like, she, the psychic though, doesn't know anything about this. Like, like, she just like thought of this. But so basically the girls are trying to plant a seed now. We'll see in next episode.

Yes. If it is true. I don't, I will say. Lindsay and Luke seem very flirty at this point in the house they are hanging out outside. Lindsay seems to be kind of, they're kind of comforting each other. I definitely think that they will hook up, have hooked up,

something has happened, but I don't know. I think it's like a little, um, convenient slash, uh, maybe production is involved in this specific text from the psychic and the timing of that text.

Because it's like, wait, you literally were just talking about this like an hour ago that they were flirting with each other and now your psychic is just like, hey, girlie. thinking about you. I don't know.

Something popped up in my head that I wanted to share with you about a roommate or two. Oh my God, that's funny. It's crazy. The Summerhouse producer texted me asking if I had had any visions about Luke and Lindsay fucking. And then like I had one. Oh my God. Guys, this was fun.

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