Mention It All - Holding Space for Vanderpump Rules (& RHOBH)

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

These were the best days of our lives… and Dylan is back to give thanks for all the Vanderpump Rules memories of the past 11 years. He goes long on the shocking reboot news, including what it means for each displaced cast member, and why Lisa Vanderpump is the true winner here. Later, he recaps another exciting episode of RHOBH, where the cast is clicking into place to give us exactly what we want. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, boo. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. Just raise your glasses high because this one's for you tonight. Oh, boy, it is a historic, historic time in the Bravo universe because we, we, we, we have a bit of news that we are going to get into that Vanderpump rules ahead of season 12 is being

completely gutted, completely rebuilt from the ground up with a new cast, an all new cast of servers. The time has come. The time has come. And I don't know how to feel. It has been about 24 hours since the news broke. So I've had a little bit of time to process. We've gotten some reactions. We've gotten some updates. I'll share with you what I know. And I'll be honest about what I don't.

We're going to talk about this news. We're also going to talk about Beverly Hills a little bit later in the episode. But Vanderpump rules. We have to hold space for it. We have to hold space for it because this has been an odyssey. This has been a journey. A journey. And it really is, it's a strange feeling.

And I am, I guess, pleasantly surprised that this news had not really leaked at all ahead of the announcement yesterday. I'm glad that we heard about it for the first time with an official announcement with quotes on the record from Bravo, from Alex Baskin, the executive producer who works at Evolution. We got cast reactions. You know, it felt like we got the proper role. out of news of this magnitude. I was glad that it didn't come out in some, you know, anonymous report from, from Des Moines over the weekend. Now, of course, there had been rumors and rumblings of troubled waters when it came to season 12 of Vanderpump Rules. Obviously, they took some time away after season 11 was airing to sort of figure out what to do. I think we had assumed for a while

that nothing was going to be filmed until 2025. That is, in fact, the case. It's just going to be filmed with a new cast that we don't know yet. But there were whisperings about, you know, people making salary demands and people uncertain whether they were going to come back. And I think I've seen in the 24 hours since the official news broke, some people kind of trying to find sources of blame for why they decided to go this route. and while there might have been certain pieces, I mean, if somebody was deciding that they didn't want to come back,

maybe that affected the potential that Bravo or Evolution saw in this cast. But when it comes down to it, a decision of this magnitude is not being made because one person wanted more money. a decision of this magnitude to basically, for all intents and purposes, scrap an Emmy nominated, multiple Emmy nominated, highly rated, culturally significant tent pull on the network. That is like a 360 come to Jesus strategic decision. That is not like we lost one cast member, let's birth. the house down. I don't know everything that went into this decision. We probably never will.

But I think there has been a lot of kind of armchair analysis in the last 24 hours, which I guess is also sort of what I'm here to do. But I'm not going to pretend to know all the details. But I will, I will read, Bravo's official thing for season 12 is that it's going to feature an entirely new group of quote, close-knit servers who are as complicatedly involved with one another as their iconic predecessors. I'm just going to say, that sounds like it'll be hard to do. Because going back to those early seasons of Vanderpump Rules, complicatedly involved with one another is a polite way to put it. They were all fucking. They were all fucking each other. They were all fucking each other's girlfriends and

boyfriends. Sometimes at the same time, sometimes while somebody else was asleep in the other room and they were watching drive and they, you know, they just crept over on the couch. Never forget. But yeah, I mean, I think we cannot overstate how much those early seasons of Vanderpump rules were special and were really unique because they were so real. And I mean, real sort of in air quotes, but also like real. So I am willing to be optimistic about what. they're putting together for next season of this show. I know I'm going to watch it. I know I'm

going to talk about it, so I always hope that it's good. That's my philosophy. Am I glad that I don't have to talk about Roney for a second week in a row because we have this big news? But perhaps, but I was optimistic about it till a point. Alex Baskin, like I said, the executive producer, also said, what a thrill it is to build on the legacy of this series by doing it all over again with profound appreciation for the original group and their iconic run. We can't wait for the audience to see a dynamic new group of co-workers and friends make their way through life together. So the gist of this announcement is that it seems like they have already pinpointed at least some of who that new cast is going to be. Otherwise, I don't think they would

be making such bullish statements about it. So that is giving me a little bit of hope that I don't think it's like the rony situation where they announced that they were going to be doing a reboot. and then we're like, okay, let's go out in the world and cast a show. Let's find six women who aren't really friends. I have faith that this is going to be a more actually connected group of people than that. I don't know if it will live up to the original Vanderpump rules, but you know what I was thinking, when I saw people kind of spiraling over this news

and complaining about having to start with a new group of people from scratch and saying that we should just throw Vanderpomptuels. pump rules away, we'll get to it. You know what show kept popping into my mind that I think maybe some people that have been on the fence or haven't considered it should check out is Southern hospitality. Because if you're looking, if you're skeptical that Bravo is going to find a new group of people that have those messy connections that are willing to bring it, that honestly don't just seem interested in being influencers and getting brand deals from going on TV, there's another show like that that is already on Bravo that is about to go into its third season

that is I think and I know some of you think so too pretty good and pretty pretty raw so if you are if if you love Vanderpump rules as it has been and you are maybe concerned or just missing it or you're not sure how you're going to feel about this reboot, I would actually really recommend checking out Southern Hospitality if you haven't yet because the third season premieres in just over a month. And so if you start watching now and you get caught up, that might scratch the itch. I'm not going to say that it's the same as classic, iconic Vanderpump Rules.

But I do think if Vanderpump Rules is like your drug and you're having a little bit of withdrawals, maybe Southern hospitality will give you a little bit of that, a little bit of that high. God, I don't know if the drug metaphor was such a good idea there, but nobody is doing drugs, of course. It just, the show is giving you a euphoric feeling because it's so, so crackling and intense. On social media, though, the last 24 hours have been, have been a lot because most of the Vanderpump Rules cast members have been similarly holding space for their experience on the show, posting lots of great throwback photos. I would really recommend if you have not, if you don't follow

most of the Vanderpump Rules cast on Instagram, congratulations. You have priorities better than mine. I would recommend going like Ariana, Sheena, Lala. There have been a lot of really good kind of behind the scenes throwback classic Vanderpump Rules moments posted in the last 24 hours. And so that's been a fun walk down memory lane. I want to just highlight a couple of the captions. So Lisa Vanderpump posted. She just posted the like season 11 cast photo. I was like honestly, low effort, queen, whatever. She said, what a wild ride. The last 11 years have been. Thank you to all of our cast for sharing your lives and stories and for being a part of this journey. How I've loved each and every one of you. That's very like, okay, see you never. Thanks for, thanks for this.

the thing that's interesting with this announcement, R.E. Lisa, and I'm going to get into, I think it's an interesting conversation. I'm going to talk about some winners and losers, I think, of this sort of announcement and of what they're doing with Vanderpump Rules. And I think that Lisa is kind of sneakily the biggest winner of all. Because like her or not, however much she appears on the show, however much she's involved with the show, the show has her name and she is an executive producer and it is a very rare trajectory that she has had on Bravo of going from being just just a cast member just talent to being an executive producer,

a creative partner, the face of a show. And Bravo choosing not to cancel Vanderpump rules, not to sort of let it, you know, fade out into the sun, but to reinvest and to reinvigorate this show with a whole new generation, it is still Lisa Vanderpump's show. She is still an executive producer. It's still going to be set at her restaurant. It still has her name in the damn title. She is winning here because she has this whole business that is kind of, it's like a, it's like stacked on top of all the different layers. And at the core has always been her position on Bravo. And whether or not this reboot runs for another 11 seasons, we will see.

That's going to be a tall order. But this, I think it's important for Lisa that among all the other stuff she has going on, I mean, she has a new restaurant opening in Vegas. Like, as we speak, she still has the foundation, which is she's Lisa from fucking Vanderpump rules. So obviously, you know, there are emotions and feelings about saying goodbye to this cast, but Lisa's the one over here that's like, oh, works for me. When do I have to go back? Honestly, she's probably going to be more involved in the show than she has been in a while.

If this new cast is all actually working for her, do you remember in those early seasons of Vanderpump rules how often we would see Lisa coming in to serve for a staff meeting or, you know, somebody would be running to get her her proper cup of tea, or she'd be having kind of disciplinary meetings with people. Like, we haven't seen boss Lisa in a while. She was kind of in this weird, like, you know, boss emeritus role where she was giving these people life advice, but they didn't have to listen to her. So Lisa, I think is, she's sitting pretty here. And the other person that I think is sort of undoubtedly a winner here is Ariana. Because there had been, in those kind of rumors that I was talking about of contract things and stuff like that,

people were trying to paint Ariana as a little bit unreasonable, that she was making demands, and she didn't want to come back and all of this. And what I have to say to that is like, as she should, because out of all of the cast members, let's say, aside from Lisa, Ariana is the one that does not need this anymore. And so I think if the show had gone on as usual and she had made the decision to leave, I think it would have been easier for people to sort of paint her out as kind of this like person who thought she was too good for the thing that made her famous and gave her this platform. And I think people would have kind of looked at that a little harsher.

But now that the show is kind of kaput, she just gets to go. do whatever she was already going to do, but without anybody being like, oh, should she have stayed? I think she should have stayed. I think she's being a diva. No, she just gets to go live her life. She gets to say yes to whatever opportunities she wants to,

and she doesn't have to be back at Sir in June to film a scene with Lala, who hates her guts. I mean, she wins. She wins. I don't know what she has kind of on the burner for 2025, but I guarantee it's not. nothing. And I guarantee that there are still people that want to work with her. I mean, she

had a big DSW partnership that just like relaunched for the holidays. You know, we're still just a few months removed from the biggest season of Love Island USA. I think if she wants to return to that gig, I'm sure they will be happy to have her. Ariana, I think, honestly, I think this is, this is a good thing for her. But the other, the other winners, and this I kind of, I kind of had to play around with where I had put people in this ranking. I think the other winners are Kristen, Jax, and Brittany. Because if you looked four years ago, Vanderpomper Rules was getting back in gear for another season,

Kristen, Jackson, Brittany had been kicked to the curb, and it seemed like we were never going to see them again. Or if we did, it would be like sad. They would not be doing well. but the timing of the Valley premiering earlier this year and being such a surprise hit and such a surprise great show and they've already filmed a second season they are the stars of that show whether whether you like them on the show or not i think jacks maybe doesn't come off amazing but they've got starring roles lined up for 2025. And so I think by the cycle kind of working the way it did in them, leaving Vanderpump

rules when they did, and then being around to get this new show, all of a sudden, they're kind of the flagship. Because if the valley seemed like a poor man's spin-off of Vanderpump rules that actually was pretty good, when there's no Vanderpump Rules, you're going to watch the Valley. Girl, winter is so last season. And now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders.

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But if it wasn't, how delicious is that? Kristen Doty's pregnancy was announced in a people-exclusive, like three hours before the news that Vanterpump Rules was getting rebooted. What kind of timing is that? She truly is a witch, and I mean that in the best way. That is, it's unbelievable. And her kind of having that spotlight moment and then, yes, it got soaked up by the Van der Pumper rules news, but then it also kind of turned back around and people were making all these jokes about how Kristen won. And Kristen kind of like got them all.

She's so powerful. She is so powerful. And I, I mean, I truly can't wait to see the Valley season two. And I already felt that way. And now knowing that there's not Vanderpump Rules coming back in the, you know, form that we're familiar with, I'm even more excited for the Valley season two. And that is where we get to like an interesting, an interesting piece, which is that it was reported in deadline last night that Sheena, Lala, and Tom Schwartz will appear on season two of the Valley. Now, this is news in the

sense that it has not been confirmed previously, but it's not news in the sense that we don't know anything about what their roles will be on the show. I really do not think that they are going to be full-time cast members. And I don't even know if they are going to be like friends of. Does the Valley have friends of? I don't really know. But us knowing that they will appear on the show is not in and of itself huge news because they're friends with people who are on the show. Sheena is like besties with what's her name, Janet and Jasmine goes way back like that could be as simple as them showing up to a party. I mean, we had some crossovers last season. So I think that this is an important note in that it seems like the door is open, but I think there's still some way to go.

So I have those three, Sheena, Lala, and Schwartz, as like soft losers of this. announcement because I think that they have potential to stick around and to come back on the valley or maybe do another show. You know, Traders is in the air. Dancing with the Stars is in the air. We know Sheena wants it. You know, Lala's from Salt Lake City. That is now apparently a hotbed of reality TV. I could see a world in which she goes back to Salt Lake and is on housewives or if sold on SLC goes really well. Maybe she dips her toe into. real estate, you never know. I think that Schwartz, Sheena, and Lala are in a place where there is opportunity, but it's not guaranteed. Now, the biggest loser of this announcement, I think, is Tom

Sandoval. I mean, Sandoval, as a villain, was integral to the last season of Vanderpump Rules, but people still fucking hate him. Honestly, actually, worse than that. I think people hated him for like a year. And now people, I think, just don't give a shit. People don't want to see him. And yes, he's on the upcoming season of the traders, which is going to do numbers on Peacock. And I'm excited to watch it. I'm excited to talk about it. But I had to be reminded that he was on the upcoming season of traders. Because when I turn on traders, I'm excited to see Derinda. I'm excited to see Dolores. I'm excited to see. Um, fucking Bob the Drag Queen.

Tom Sandoval is way down the list of people that I'm actually excited to see on the traders. So it's great that he got a check. It's great that he, you know, has an opportunity. Great for him. I mean, I don't care. But after that, when the villain of Vanderpump Rules doesn't have Vanderpump Rules anymore, like it's just kind of over, right? He already got to go on, was it, world's toughest test?

Jesus Christ. I think that Sandoval is going to have a harsh reality facing him. And we already know that the bar is closing. It's not looking good. And then I kind of have this third category, which is people that I was unsure of where to put. And it's because I think that they don't really have anything locked up after this. But at the same time,

it doesn't feel like they're in like flop territory. as much as like a Tom Sandoval. And those are Katie and James. And I think that Katie and James are in an interesting position because they are both pretty well liked. I think Katie sort of riding with Ariana these last couple seasons gained her a lot of favor from the audience. I think that she seems like a real person in a way that maybe Sheena and Lala don't.

She has a podcast. She has something about her. I don't know kind of what her ceiling is in terms of like an entertainment career, but I think that she at least has enough goodwill from people, that she might get opportunities. I think she and Ariana are still like a powerful duo. And I think, you know, she is going to be fine. And James Kennedy, I mean, he has done a great job establishing his personal brand, his personal career, the DJ stuff. I, I don't know exactly, you know, the financials there, how it works, whatever. But James, I think, too, he, um, he finished his

run on Vanderpump Rules now in a pretty good place when it comes to audience appreciation. And that could not be said of his entire run on Vanderpump Rules. There were times where he was like villain energy and just like messy, messy, messy. But I think he was able to turn it around and land in a place of people enjoying him, people finding him funny. I think his sobriety really benefited him. I mean, obviously in like a life sense, but also just in his being like not completely insufferable on TV. James and Allie, I think, are going to be fine. He has that lovely house

right by the airport. I think he could also, they could be on the Valley in a season or two if they want it. And I think that's the question for a lot of these people. Going back to a show that you're already on for multiple seasons, that's easy. And by easy, I mean that it's already set up. if they want you back, you just say yes, and then you do it. I think the question for a lot of these people now is going to be, how bad do they want it? How important is it for somebody like Katie Maloney to maintain her public persona and her presence and her relevance? Because once you are out of that kind of recurring yearly schedule of being on a a TV show, no opportunity is guaranteed. Things aren't necessarily going to be falling into your lap.

You might have to go out there and hustle. And I could see some of these people deciding maybe they kind of take themselves out into the marketplace. And six months a year from now, they realize that the demand is not that high. And maybe it's time to go get your real estate license or, you know, learn a trade, hit those cameos and kind of recede a little bit. And that's okay. So I would just say, for anybody who's, you know, touched Vanderpumpurals, I know Billy Lee was like celebrating on Instagram yesterday that this show is getting rebooted. Okay, whatever. I think everybody should take a beat, figure out what matters to them because it's a tough road. And even if you get cast on another show, that could go away. It's,

It's tricky. And I'm really curious to see where everyone lands. I'm really curious to see what happens with Vanderpump Rules. I mean, it's an important show. It's clearly, it's an important show to the network. And so I have faith that they are going to give it their best effort. And I hope that it's good. And whether it's good or not, we'll be following along.

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but this is kind of the last thing. Like, it's, you know, when it's like, it's 10.41 a.m. now. And it's kind of like, this is last chance saloon for the day. And talking about Beverly Hills right now is going to be kind of like the thing I'm thankful for. Because Beverly Hills is really good so far this season. Don't you think? Isn't it good? This second episode, I feel like we are already more than last season really like getting into what we all came here for and kind of not beating around the bush maybe as much as Beverly Hills has tended to do frankly a lot in the past because and I really can't thank her enough. Derreet seems willing to go there and willing to talk about things

and just kind of let it out in a way that. Kyle wasn't willing to do last season in a way that, you know, thinking about like Erica and Tom, it was so much more complicated with all the legal stuff. Doreet is giving us a lot of material. And I also think because Kyle is a little further along in her separation, perhaps even headed for divorce if Sutton gets her way, we're getting a little bit more juice from Kyle this season. Bose is really lighting it up so far. I'm very into her. I think Sutton seems like she has settled a little bit,

and she's able to be a little bit more of a listener and a, um, like a productive member of the cast versus just kind of like saying the wrong thing and then, and then the vibe is ruined. Erica seems to be really also kind of locked into that like listening, chatting, pushing the story along mode. Everybody seems to be kind of clicking so far this season.

Garcel was not really in this episode. She's working on some film stuff in Atlanta. It's fine. We're going to have time. But I think watching the Kyle and Derreet argument continue at Sutton's Party, it's interesting how differently they see their issues with each other. because Derreet feels like Kyle can't land on one specific thing that she's angry about. And so in Derreet's mind, the fact that Kyle has brought up multiple different things,

whether it's the comment on Watch What Happens Live about, what was the comment on watch what happens live about? The Morgan stuff. Whether it's the comment at BravoCon about ranking the sisters, whether it's Kyle breaking down at BravoCon and not being there enough, whether it's something that happened at the reunion last season. Doreate sees that as, if she can't give me one specific reason, then all of the reasons are bullshit, and it's not real. But I think from Kyle's perspective, if she can't pinpoint one specific reason, it's because there's multiple reasons.

And if you're having a major friendship breakdown with somebody that you've been close with for years, it actually kind of makes a lot of sense to me that it's probably not over one specific comment that somebody made at watch what happens live taping at BravoCon six months ago. Like, it makes sense that it's kind of a pile up because if it really was one specific comment, and I get why Derreet wants to pinpoint something, but I think what might be tough about this for Doreet is that perhaps she hasn't quite dug deep enough about maybe things she said or done that Kyle doesn't like. And I think I'm not necessarily team Kyle in their issues, but I understand the idea that

Kyle has multiple things that have kind of compounded with Doreet. Meanwhile, for Doreet, it kind of couldn't be simpler. All she wants is for Kyle to say that it was fucked up for her to say the thing on Amazon Live about her exaggerating their friendship. Doreet, Godlover, she exists in kind of a binary, like a black and white space where she's like, well, I thought we were friends. And then Kyle said that I exaggerated the friendship, so now we're not friends. And I almost, I almost respect that, that it's like, if your way of looking at relationships

and friendships and frankly the world is that simple. I'm kind of like, God, that seems easy. That seems nice. But then also it's like seeing stuff in black and white, you cut things off so quickly. And it was also really interesting to watch the scene of her and P.K., get dinner and really chat for the first time since their separation went public. Because they are also clearly on really different pages about what they're separating. means, what their issues are, where their issues are stemming from, how fixable those issues are. Because for him, he's saying, when we first got together, you were this, you know, socially vibrant

person who was always by my side. And really, you know, we were, we were in it together. It's given, you know, British Bonnie and Clyde. But now he feels like she's, um, she feels like he makes him feel less than. He doesn't feel like she puts him first. He thinks that in a marriage, that the spouse should come before the kids. And I don't think she actually really responded to that, but in my mind, it's so clear watching Dorete that she feels the opposite,

that her kids are the center of her universe. And if P.K. If P.K. kind of gets pushed to the side for a minute, it's what you have to do because the kids come first. And I don't really have a strong opinion either way. Obviously, you know, if you know me, I don't have kids. I don't have a spouse. So I think that is a deeply personal thing.

And there's not really one right way to differentiate that. But I think watching it, it's clear that they have kind of opposite feelings about that. And that's a tough thing in terms of just life compatibility when you have a family with somebody. But I also, I really understand when he shows up to the restaurant and she points out his leather jacket that he's wearing and he's like, oh yeah, you know, I've got the new clothes, that single PK. And she's like, it really hurts that we've been separated for 48 hours. And he's talking about single PK. Like, yeah. Because in Derreet's mind, I don't think Derreet is single Derreet.

She's Dorit who is Has a husband and is married and is currently separated She tells Erica and Bose earlier in the episode That there still is potential for them to reconcile That they're waiting to feel it out They're not talking to the kids until they figure out where it's going to end up And that frankly in the past of their relationship It's not unusual for him to be away for weeks at a time

And so right now it's not even that different. And I think for P.K., he feels like they reach the boiling point and now it's over. And yeah, maybe it's going to be over in phases, but that it doesn't really seem to me like he's on the page of, like, thinking about this just taking some space before it's time for them to probably get back together. So I hope for everyone's sake, for the kids, for Dere, for, I mean, for literally everyone involved, I hope that they get on the same page. because that's something where it feels like that situation is going to be

tough and painful no matter what. But if you're, if you don't have the same expectations as the person that you're going through it with, it's going to be ten times harder. And so I really, I really hope that, you know, they can kind of get to a better place there.

I don't know how much we're going to see of it on the show. I don't know that we even need to see every conversation that they're having about what their separation means to them. But I think it's really interesting. And the fact that we're seeing all of this in episode two of the season, just hats off to Doreet, because she could be doing this a lot more behind the curtain than she is. And I'm grateful just watching the show that she's not. We do get some really funny kind of commentary from Erica this episode.

And like I said, I'm really enjoying her kind of as like a side person this season so far where she's kind of pushing the conversation along. But when, um, when, Doret is telling her and Bose about her issues with Kyle, and she's like, I mean, I see both sides. But why are P.K. and Mo out having the time of their lives? Well, we're sitting here fighting in Encino. She's like, I want to have fun.

We're single girls. Single Doreet. Maybe too soon. Maybe perhaps too soon. And also, we don't know if Kyle's single, because she won't talk about she who must not be named. Morgan Wade. Sorry.

Oops. Oops. Shouldn't have said it. It's a secret. But also is it? Are they together? We'll never know. Later in the episode, when Kyle and Erica and Sutton go over to Kyle's house,

when, wait, what? Kathy. Sorry. Kathy and Erica and Sutton go over to Kyle's house. And they do, by the way. New York ladies, take notes. This is the acceptable amount of prank on a Real Housewives show. Is Kathy showing up to Kyle's gate and doing a poorly executed vocal disguise and saying that she has an Amazon delivery? Like, that's enough. That's the prank. We don't need pregnancy storylines. We don't need figuring out who's the leaky pigeon.

then Kathy doing a bad voice and pretending to have a delivery, that's enough. That's the prank. And then we move right on and we have a real discussion. Imagine that. Kyle's dogs are breaking out of the house for the 50 second time. I'm sorry. I am not a pet owner. And so I don't pretend to know everything that comes along with being a pet owner.

But Kyle, get the dogs inside the house. If you're going to have like six animals, it's going to be chaotic no matter what. But like, oh my God, it gives me a headache every time I see her at the house. She's like, oh my God, Biscuit. Get back inside, Sadie. Come on, Serena. I don't know the names. Scout?

Devil Lope? Get inside. But they're talking about, you know, where Kyle's at. Kathy's trying to get her to talk shit about Maricio's workout posts, which I really appreciated. And then they're talking about. talking about it being Valentine's Day. And Sutton's like, they're talking about how Maricio, you know, didn't send flowers or whatever. And Sutton's like, well, you know, I used to get flowers. And now he doesn't send them anymore. And Erica's response, this is why I love Erica right now,

because she's like, bitch, you're talking about not getting some flowers? Meanwhile, you're getting 350K a month in spousal support. Buy the flowers yourself. And Sutton's like, well, you know, money's not everything. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If I were Erica, I would slap that girl right there. Erica's like, we fought for two seasons over whether or not I had to give back a pair of earrings that are worth two months of your spousal support. I don't want to hear about how money's not everything.

When you've got all the money to buy everything, you need or want, or could possibly use. I just, I really enjoyed this episode. The photo thing, though, insane. So Maricio in his office at home had a photo of him and Kyle. A lovely photo. Adorable. And he replaced the photo with a photo of him with his dancing with the stars partner, that he was like rumored to be stooping during the season last year.

I don't know if it was real. What the fuck? First of all, that's like shady, especially when it's still in the same house that you're separated estranged wife lives in. But also it's like you're framing a photo with your dancing with the stars partner. Get a life. Get a grip. Go somewhere else. Put it in your hotel room.

I do think Kyle should file for divorce. because Sutton, I mean, Sutton doesn't always have her head screwed on 100% straight, but I think she knows what she's talking about in this kind of like high profile, high net worth divorce situation. It's kind of crazy to me to know that you're not getting back together with your partner and just to let it sit there. And she's right, whatever business deals Kyle's doing, whatever opportunities she has, I get that she thinks it's going to be very simple, split down the middle 50-50, has Maricio like thanked you in his book or whatever. I think Sutton's right.

It's not necessarily going to be that simple. And maybe it will be, but maybe it won't be. And that's my soapbox for today. I'll get off. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. I hope everybody has a great holiday. I'll be back next week with lots more Bravo to talk about.

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