Mention It All - How Long Do We Keep Caring About The Old VPR Cast?

Episode Date: December 16, 2024

We’ve made it to the home stretch of 2024, but instead of recapping the current shows, Dylan’s Monday focus is pulled to a pair of bleak—if not fully surprising—Vanderpump Rules headlines. He wades through the updates in the James Kennedy situation, then digs into the fresh drama between Tom Sandoval and his post-Ariana girlfriend. Getting existential for a minute, he then talks about the state of this crop of now-former-Bravolebs, and when we’re going to stop caring about their lives. After that, he saves some time for the most recent episode of Southern Charm, where JT becomes the main character (derogatory). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. It's Monday, and we have made it to our final week of episodes for 2024. It feels so wild that we have come all of this way. This is what the, the, fifth year of mention it all. I think it's been what a journey. Truly what a journey. Another year coming to a close and we've got so much to talk about. When I was kind of mapping out what this week was going to look like, I was like, okay, great. Monday, I'll talk about Potomac, maybe catch up on a little bit of Southern charm. You know, we've got some space to work with. I feel like Monday is

sort of like a, you know, a catch-all. It's the beginning of the week. What are we looking at? What do we want to talk about. What's going on? There's married to medicine on Sundays. There's a lot to, there's a lot to dig into. And then some, some shit happened. And that shit, that shit that we have to talk about today. The men of Vanderpump rules, well, actually, the men of, formerly of Vanderpump rules, it's not going great. It is not going great. So last Thursday, I put out an episode with Danny Pellegrino, a lovely chat. I hope you all have had a chance to listen to it. And if you haven't, right after this, it's waiting for you.

It's a nice, juicy, long episode. But we recorded that one day in advance. Now, in the Bravo world, you never know what can happen in a day. So I record one day in advance. Thursday rolls around. Lo and behold, the news drops. James Kennedy arrested for misdemeanor domestic violence. Reportedly, this was broken by TMZ, released on $20,000 bail.

After attending Kathy Hilton's DirecTV Christmas party on Tuesday night, with Allie, there's Getty images left and right. Everybody saw him there. They were at the event. Later that night, James Kennedy arrested. At first, we did not have a lot of details. We still relatively don't. I'm going to walk through sort of some of the updates. I'm not going to get into too much speculation about things that we don't know yet, because, quite frankly, I don't want to get sued.

And I also don't find this that fun to talk about. It's just a big old fucking bummer. But this was Thursday. The news broke. This happened late on Tuesday night. I don't know what was happening on Wednesday. Clearly, whoever's combing the LA County Police reports was asleep at the wheel a little bit. But so this came out on Thursday.

And at first, one of the key things here, we didn't have a clear indication from the actual reporting whether the woman involved in this alleged incident was Allie, James's girlfriend, who we know from the show. Obviously, they were at the party together. But, you know, I don't like to make assumptions in a case like this. And so there's no guarantee that this didn't happen with some random woman we don't know or maybe some random woman we do know. But over the course of the week, we got some more details. So I'm a little bit relieved that I didn't, that I wasn't like in the recording studio five seconds after this news broke, trying to just sort of like riff about it. Because that, it's not my favorite thing to do. So since then, kind of the updates that we have.

There's a police log of the incident that came out on Friday that said, this was sort of how they described what happened. It says, quote, female stated her boyfriend lifted her up and threw her to the ground. That is obviously a very upsetting thing to imagine. The language implies that that is, in fact, Allie. Allie is James's girlfriend. And then in the same sort of wave of updates on Friday, we got a statement from James's attorneys and this, you guys.

Oh my God. Here's the statement. We are in the process of conducting our own investigation into the allegations levied by the Burbank Police Department against James. We understand that there were no injuries, and we are hoping that, after careful review, the city's attorneys will decide not to file formal charges. Okay. The taste in my mouth right now is so unpleasant. This statement, I feel like if you were just giving it a quick little glance, you could almost say like, oh, they had to say something, but they're not really saying anything. But if you actually think about what they're saying, so first of all, conducting our own investigation into the allegations levied. Like, It's a lot of, like, I'm just asking questions. I'm just, you know, I'm just curious.

I'm trying to draw my own conclusions. I don't know who James is hiring to do his, like, personal investigation. Also, I don't always believe whatever conclusion the police arrive at, but I just don't, I don't love the idea that right away, James was like, what, I'm going to do my own investigation. That was a little more P-K than James, but, you know, skeezy British men, one and the same. And then this is the part that really gets me. We understand that there were no injuries and are hoping that, because of that, no charges. The idea that there being no injuries, first of all, what does that mean? It's 2024.

An injury is not just nobody broke an arm. Nobody has a black eye. There's such thing as a mental injury. There's such thing as a traumatic moment that can be a lasting repercussion, even if nobody has to get stitches or nobody has to go to the ER. And, you know, maybe there is a sliding scale of what type of injury or what level of damage is, you know, addressed with charges being filed. but it just feels so dismissive. And especially if our understanding that this is an incident that happened between James and Allie, his girlfriend that he professes to love,

the fact that he would use this kind of legalese to try and dismiss that, I understand from a court perspective why maybe that's the way you go about it. But this as a public statement really just to me, doesn't land. Because there's a way that you could sort of be vague and, you know, assert that you, you know, you want to get to the bottom, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the no injuries thing, it's like, well, did you drop your girlfriend on the ground? Because even if she didn't have to go to the hospital, she probably isn't feeling great after

that physically or mentally. But it's just messy. And so on Saturday, Ali posted on her Instagram story, she broke her. her silence. She said, this is a quote, thank you to everyone who has reached out with love and support and for checking in on me. I'm okay and taking the time I need right now. I deeply

appreciate all the kindness and respect for my privacy during this time. So, obviously, respect to the privacy, wishing well. Everybody, I think, is wishing her well. The question, of course, that naturally comes to mind is,

are we, is she are we staying together? Is this, you know, I'm okay and taking the time I need right now, you know, with James sitting five feet away? Is there any kind of separation happening, whether it's a separation of the relationship itself or just like a physical distance? It's totally unclear. And I, again, I think that she deserves that privacy and that, you know, support from us just kind of carte blanche right now. but then there is kind of a bigger conversation to be had of like, where does this leave us?

And the thing that's really interesting is that we saw in the last few days, both of James's prior girlfriends on Vanderpump Rules weighing in publicly on Instagram. And this happened first with Kristen Doty, who of course was dating James, you know, many years ago on the show. and she just re-shared kind of the initial TMZ story just with the word finally in all caps. And of course, Kristen, you know, a big, a common thread of people responding to this last week was Kristen told us years ago. We should have listened to Kristen. And it's complicated. You know, Vanderpump Rules was a place where a lot of people did a lot of questionable things and it wasn't always necessarily handled the best way.

But Kristen posted that pretty much right away. And then Raquel posted. Rachel, Raquel, we know who that is. She shared a follow-up TMZ article in which the headline is reporting from a source that basically that Ali's line was that it was a misunderstanding and that she was standing by James. I want to be careful to state that that was a report from an anonymous source. That was not Ali speaking directly to TMZ, but that was the headline and that was what Rachel shared to her Instagram. and she added, the amount of times I convinced myself that the abuse I endured by James Kennedy Georgio, that's his last name, was a misunderstanding is sickening.

So she is taking this misunderstanding word that was, you know, given by a source to TMZ and basically saying that that matches her experience, that there was behavior that now she would categorize as abuse in that relationship and that she told herself that it was a misundercer. understanding. And that is obviously a common thread that we see in a lot of domestic violence, a lot of toxic relationship traits. And I don't want to act like I know more than I do about James and Allie's relationship because A, I don't think that's responsible. But B, I just, I don't know what I don't know. And none of us know. And none of us are behind closed doors in that relationship. But I think that this kind of, it definitely signals that there is a, dynamic there that is probably not healthy. And that likely that dynamic is originating with James. And like it or not, have all the details or not, this is not the first relationship that

we have heard this from or gotten these signals from. And now Rachel, you know, we don't have to love Rachel to accept that there are things that she's telling us about this relationship that are not good. And this is a, it's a complicated thing. And I think, you know, going back to the Kristen part of it, it's like not everything has to exist in a vacuum. And even though there have been so many moments over the last 11 years that where Kristen made a bad choice or Kristen did something that, you know, she wasn't a good friend or she cheated on somebody, all of these things can sort of be evaluated on their own basis. And so when you think about, oh, you know, Kristen banged Jacks while Drive was on the TV and Sandoval was asleep in the other room, that was a bad thing to do.

But then if she was in a situation with James where he did something, you know, as she's sort of signaling, something that was, could be called abusive, that's also a bad thing and that those things can be judged on their own terms. And so, you know, we might never know exactly what happened with Kristen and James. We might never know exactly what happened with Rachel and James. And we might never know exactly what happened with Allie and James and what is, you know, maybe continuing to happen with Allie and James if they're choosing to stay together. I think that in this situation, all, all we can really do is, first of all, send a lot of love and support to Allie Luber because, you know, however she is handling this, whatever decision she's making or will

make in the future, I think right now obviously has got to be a really tough moment. And I hope that she's okay. And I hope that she, you know, finds a lot of strength to do whatever she feels like she needs to do and to be okay. But it just is, it's so bleak. And I think especially in this moment that we're in, where all of these people don't really have a home on Bravo right now, you also have to wonder, like, what does this really mean? Where does this leave us? Is this, are we ever really going to hear much from James and Allie? Like, if they're not coming back on a show and this, I can't think, is going to help

career prospects for James, like, we might never get this presented to us as like a storyline. and I don't think that that's a bad thing necessarily because this is so tough and so icky and sticky. And I just, you know, I don't need this to be something that's like wrapped up in a reality TV bow. But I think it's hard when there are people that we've spent so many years with watching on the show to know that like this isn't going to be on a show. And this isn't going to be documented on Vanderpump Rules in six to nine months where we're going to have, you know, conversations about it and footage and a reunion and all of that. Like this might just get left in a weird kind of upsetting gray area. But we'll continue to monitor this story. If there are pertinent updates, we will talk about it.

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envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. But as of today, look, I thought we were going to have one bleak Vanderpomper-Rules adjacent story to talk about. But then, Tom Sandoval. Now, Tom Sandoval, if you haven't been paying attention, and I can't blame you, has for a while been dating this woman, Victoria. You know, they've been on social media. They've been out and about. This has not been a low-key relationship, I would say. You know, people aren't necessarily checking for Tom Sandoval a lot, but like, if you are, you would know.

So she posted Victoria on her Instagram story last night. I'm recording this on Monday. She posted this on Sunday. Wow. You guys were right. Tiger never changes its stripes. He loves the best friends. apparently, I feel like a fool, completely heartbroken.

Now, the way I read that, there are a lot of line breaks in this. It's like a few sentences, but it takes up a whole Instagram story slide. It's kind of giving like 10th grade poetry assignment and you're feeling really emo. Maybe you've spent some time on Tumblr, you know, maybe a boy hurt your feelings. Maybe you were talking on, on AIM or on Facebook Messenger. and things kind of went a little cold. Maybe he goes to a different school. Maybe you haven't heard from him in a while.

Maybe he got back with his ex. Tiger never changes its stripes. I feel like a fool. Look, I don't want to, I don't want to be too harsh on Victoria because clearly she's going through it a little bit right now. She did delete this Instagram story. And near as I can tell,

this is a hard thing to kind of like verify. I think she might have deleted her Instagram or like deactivated it. I can't find her on any account right now. And I've searched on a few because I'm like, okay. Realistically, Tom Sandoval's post-Skandival girlfriend could have Bravo by Betches blocked. It wouldn't be the first, you know, I can't see Jack's Taylor's posts, I can't see Kelly Dodd's posts, I can't see Mary Cosby's posts. So I'm like, okay, let me do my due diligence. a little bit. I go to my personal Instagram at Delanea. I type in victorially. Nothing.

And then I did, I did one more check on, on another Betches account that's not Bravo related. So I would be really surprised if she's going around and blocking like nine or 10 different Betches sub accounts. But the possibility is there. But it appears to me like she may have deactivated her Instagram page. Either way, this story was deleted. it's no longer there. But it's pretty clear. This is not one of those vague posts where you're like, man, so sad right now, we could have had it all. Like that would, that would perk up an ear or two, but honestly, I'm not even sure if that would cross my desk because am I following Victoria Lee, whatever, what's her name on Instagram? No. Clearly, because I don't even know if I'm blocked or not.

but this is this is pretty black and white he loves the best friends apparently the girl got cheated on probably with the best friend but this this post got deleted and so tom um as of it's it's 1237 p.m. right now on monday eastern time so it's pretty early on the west coast honestly Tom has gone live on Instagram at least a couple of times for like short spurts and my guy seems to be spiraling a wee bit. He was live, kind of like walking through the house and he was like, Victoria's calling me. She definitely made a big mistake last night.

Pardon? She definitely made a big mistake last night. Did she fuck your best friend? Because that's not the picture that's being painted. The big mistake, I mean, she might regret posting the thing on Instagram. She deleted it. I don't know. I'm not in her head.

I'm not in her DMs. I'm not in her. her, you know, thoughts and prayers, I doubt it. But the big mistake would be you allegedly fucking her best friend, just like you did with your last long-term relationship, might I remind? And then he was on live another time, and this time he was the clip that I saw. I did not watch it live. I'm not like checking for Tom Sandival's lives.

He was like talking to the camera. He's like shouting out people in the comments. like, yeah. Hey, Arizona. Hey, New York. That is one of my, Instagram live behavior is such a cursed thing to me. The fact that people will just sit there doing nothing, basically not even saying anything. And people in the chat will just kind of be like yapping to themselves or into the void. But then like the person going live, the celebrity, the, the bravo lebrity, whoever will be doing the absolute bare minimum. And they're like, Hey Idaho

How are we doing in the chat? Where are we from? It's like the lowest form of like fan Famous-ish person interaction. It's like you didn't want to pay for a cameo So you're just hoping they notice you in the chat of the Instagram live But anyway, in this one he was like, yeah, it was definitely a rough weekend. And then he didn't really say anything.

But Tom going live on Instagram In back-to-backspirts, not a great sign that things are like going amazing for him. But it's like, okay, I'm reluctantly curious to know what happened with him in Victoria, but at the same time, these people are not really in our lives anymore. And with the James thing and with this new Tom thing,

I think the thing that I'm starting to sort of come to grips with is that like, these men specifically, these Vanderpump Rules, alumni men, aren't going to be people we need to care about moving forward. And I think right now we're in this kind of like honeymoon phases, it's too cursed for a honeymoon phase. We're in this like post-mortem phase where we have residual interest in things that are happening with them. but like the next time Tom Sandoval starts dating somebody, who gives a fuck? I mean, we never really gave that much of a fuck about Victoria Lee. It just is interesting now because she's spotlighting some behavior that we've witnessed a time or two before.

But like at a certain point, the James and Allie stuff is big, but like it's not. not on Bravo. And I try to, you know, I don't want to be too, too narrow of like, well, I only cover something that you can watch on the episode on BravoTV.com or that happens, you know, at the reunion. Like, I don't want to shut myself out of what's happening in the world, IRL. But also, I'm like, at a certain point, if the 15 minutes are over, perhaps I don't need to spend 15 minutes on the podcast. And so that's, I guess, why I've spent about 23 minutes on the podcast talking about these Vanderpump Rules Men. But I think I'm just sort of what I mean is that, like,

maybe these segments are going to be fewer and farer between. And I kind of had that moment with Bethany earlier this year where it's like, okay, I'm not going to talk about every little bit of Bethany drama. I'm not going to talk about every time that Brandy Glanville is yapping on Twitter. I don't need to be invested in every little update of people who are like vestigial limbs of this world

because we've got material being poured into our peacock cues day after day. I watched this week's episode of Southern Charm and I have so much to say. I have so many thoughts. and I don't want some has been

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this, and if you don't, close your ears, skip ahead a little bit. I tried the Melissa Gorga sprinkle cook. cookies. And this is something. When she first posted about this, of course, I knew that there was going to be a polarized reaction. Because anything that Melissa or Teresa do is going to be either super hot, super cold, you hate it, you love it, you think it's pathetic, you think it's iconic, that's fine. We are in almost 2025. I would love for us to get comfortable with something just not being for us and then keeping it moving. But also, I get there's a lot of tensions. We've been doing this for a long time. But Melissa Corga, if you

have not noticed, launched a sprinkle cookie line brand, whatever, that you can purchase last week. And I did get sent the cookies. So people, one thing, one question that I always get is, is it worth it? And I am careful. I always want to let people know if I have received something for free, worth it is a different question for me. I can tell you whether I enjoyed it. I can tell you whether I might purchase it for myself in the future. But worth it means something different to everyone else. So I will tell you. And the reason I said Bethany is Bethany reviewed these as well. and I had posted on my Instagram story that the cookies were good, and some people messaged me in disbelief.

And then Bethany, Bethany, who just ripped into Harry Hamlin's pasta sauce last week, Bethany liked the cookies, too. And I'm not a liar. Well, actually, no, I've said on the podcast, I'm on record as saying that I don't like when people say that they're not liars because I think everybody lies a little bit. But I wouldn't have said the cookies were good if they're

weren't. And I hope you know that. I hope you believe that in your heart. But you know who really wouldn't have said the cookies were good if they weren't? Bethany Frankel. Because she loves to say something is not at the level. She loves to say something is nasty. She loves to say something is overrated, overpriced, whatever. And Bethany liked the cookies. Her main critique was that there could have been more sprinkles. And I don't disagree. But people have been asking, is it worth it? And, you know, like I said, I wanted to let you know. So the cookies are running, let's see, $2,999 for a 12 pack of cookies. And to me, I know that I am like New York ruined a little bit by what things cost.

Like I know that I have like a warped concept. But $29.99 for 12 cookies, it's not bad. And I'm putting in, um, I put in my address just to see what shipping is because sometimes you know, it's like the cookies are $2,999, but then the shipping is $17. That's what happens when you look at the fucking TikTok shop, which I don't buy anything from the TikTok shop, like be an adult. But these cookies, I put in my, my New York address with shipping. in tax, the 12 cookies is 3799. I still think that's not horrible. That comes out to roughly $3 per cookie. I just did a little math there.

I don't know if you guys have bought like real cookies, not at the grocery store recently. But if you go into Crumble, if you go into Chip City, if you're buying like funny face bakery, any of those like cookies that you buy in a box that get shipped to you, it's not like, 12 bucks for a dozen cookies. That's not real. So personally, I feel okay about that. I don't know. Like I said, I didn't spend the money, but the cookies were good. They arrived to me in the mail just like they will if you buy them, and they were still a little bit soft. They had a nice crunch to the sprinkle, a nice flavor, a little almond flavor. I thought they were good. If you hate Melissa, obviously, don't buy the cookies. Nobody's forcing you. But the cookies exist. You can try them. Bethany liked them. I liked them. It is what it is. Merry fucking Christmas. Just eat the cookies or don't. But like, stay out of my DMs about it. If anybody gives me a fucking one-star review because I said that the

cookies were good. I would laugh. I actually would laugh. No, whatever. Okay. I do just want to, wow, wow, I've talked for so long. But I do just want to talk about Southern Charm a little bit. Potomac. I really was going to talk about Potomac today. The episode was not that interesting. I'm sorry. How has Stacey and T.J.'s lack of a sex life become an every episode kind of storyline? It's not actually a storyline. It's a thing that you can say, and then you've said it, and then it's, that's it.

Every episode, we're talking about it. And I'm sorry, the ick that I got watching every man go down the line and say, yeah, I'm dominant. I'm sorry, I don't want to hear about, like, all of these men being like, yeah, I'm pretty fucking dominant in the bedroom. First of all, I don't believe you. I don't believe all of you. I believe some of you. But second of all, like, ladies, men, you know, is that a turn on to you when, like, a straight man is like, yeah. I'm 100% dominant.

It's like, ugh. My spine just shivered a little bit. Like, please, have some cooth. Not so fast. I don't know. A time and a place for everything. To each their own. I hope everybody's happy in their marriages

and in their speed dating arrangements, but we probably won't see after the next episode. But Southern Charm. J.T. has weirdly, like, cursed main character energy so far this season. and we're only a couple episodes in. But J.T. is kind of the girl that is causing the conversation on the show so far this season, but in all of the wrong ways.

Obviously, in episode one, we saw him make the disastrous foe pa of giving Miss Patricia a cane at the Charleston, the Carolina Cup. But this episode, you know, we see him talking to his mom and I think his sister, and they're like, oh, my God, Jay-T, you gave Miss Patricia a cane? That was bad. You shouldn't have done that. That was a mistake. They have their head on straight. But we find out that he's like the Airbnb king of Charleston, which I also feels a little cursed. Like he has this new property and he's like, well, I've about Airbnb's and then this one is actually owned as a hotel. So it's a very valuable property. It's actually the biggest, the biggest Airbnb property on the peninsula on the downtown Charleston. And so it's a hotel. I'm like, Ugh. I don't know. Something about like landlord energy, it's like, okay, that explains a lot. But then his apartment doesn't seem that nice. I don't know. I'm getting ahead of myself. But the bigger issue here with J.T. is he is just a little shitterer because he, you know, he's talking about Ms. Patricia. He goes to golf with with Shepp and Crueger, virtual golf or whatever. And this thing that he is, saying about Madison's husband is so insane to me. So they went to Jamaica last season on the show. And I guess there was this moment where Madison was like wearing his shirt, this like striped

button down shirt, like, oh, that's so sensual. And so he's claiming that after this moment, Brett, Madison's husband, who's like, first of all, fucking gorgeous, I hope he's doing okay. I don't know if I knew that he had thyroid cancer. Thoughts and prayers. I really hope you're doing well. Also, you're so sexy. But also, that's what makes it insane that J.T. thinks that Brett thinks that Madison hooked up with him in Jamaica. Like, no shade to anyone.

I'm trying. But looking at Brett and then looking at J.T. And looking at Madison, who also is a stunning woman. who clearly is obsessed with her husband. Who on this planet would look at the three of them and know anything about them and say, oh yeah, I bet on this televised cast trip to Jamaica, Madison made the decision to cheat on this gorgeous man that is obsessed with her, likewise, with J.T.

Your Honor, it's not happening. And I love that Craig and Shep are literally like, what are you talking? What are you talking about? Literally, no one thinks that this happened. And for you to act like maybe, not even to act like it happened, but to act like somebody does think it happened is wild. And then on top of that, he still is kind of, he's bringing up this thing about Austin and his girlfriend, Audrey, and that Leva was saying that he was hooking up with people.

First of all, I think we need to all just, like, get the timeline straight because Austin is not telling anybody that he was dating Audrey last summer. They met last summer. And he's very clear on the fact that they've been dating for like four months. And they're filming this at Easter. Just like, we need everybody to get out their planners and like mark some dates because we can't do a, it's like in a rom-com when the whole movie is hinging on like one extremely simple misunderstanding that could be corrected with like one, one text message. We got to get that under control because I can't, like, honestly, out of all the things, that's like the least egregious thing JT's doing, but we just need to like get out our date

books and get on the same page. And then, oh my God, Whitney, body shaming Molly, after she's talked about having a bit of insecurity because of this fluctuation that she experiences. telling her that she doesn't need to eat a cupcake. I think she does need to eat a cupcake because she wanted a cupcake, so she was going to eat it. That's a need. Sir, get the fuck out of here.

The men on Southern Charm will never fail to fail. They will never succeed. They will never grow. They will never change. But knowing that JT is such a central person in this season, as of right now, I am very curious to see kind of like how it unfolds and how he got to the place of saying that he's resigning from the show. Of course, after filming ended, but before the show aired, something is afoot.

And I'm curious. And I, Southern Charm, still got it. Still got it. Potomac, a little bit of a question mark right now. But we have so much more to talk about. And these Monday episodes are going to continue to be hot and spicy going into the new year. So make sure that you are rating and reviewing and following the show wherever you listen. so you never miss a Monday, a Wednesday or a Thursday, or whenever we're putting out content

because you never know. You never know. But thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, just be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mentioned at all is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca Sousmaqat. Editing by Jorge Morales Pico.

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