Mention It All - Huda & Jax: A Tale of Two Crashouts (Love Island, The Valley, Love Hotel, RHOM)

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Well, it finally happened. On today’s episode, Dylan has finally fallen down the Love Island USA rabbit hole, and he breaks down the biggest developments in the Villa this week (mostly, Huda). Stick...ing with the love theme, he shares some quick thoughts about the finale of Love Hotel. From there, he recaps the latest episode of The Valley, which sees Jax return from “rehab” a deeply unchanged man. Will his “my show” strategy backfire once again? Later, Dylan has some reactions to RHOM and Next Gen NYC, before sharing which Bravo duo should Smooth It Over, presented by CeraVe. Go to the Always On YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@AlwaysOnBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Betches Media presents Ha ha, laugh, funny Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, boo. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. We've made it to another Friday, another action-packed week, a week where something happened that I didn't think was going to happen and I said it wasn't, and then it did. And that is, I've been watching Love Island, USA. I'm on the train.
Starting point is 00:01:03 we're going to talk about it. I don't, I don't know how this happened, but here we are. But first, I just want to remind you, we have a YouTube channel with full video episodes every Tuesday. You can see all our great guest episodes earlier this week. We had Joel Kim Booster, talking all things Love Hotel and all other shows on Bravo, too. Joel is a great person to pick his brain about Bravo. And next week on Tuesday, a little teaser. We've got Marisol. Marisol back on the podcast. And you can watch the whole episode on video. You can, you can see the Miami fantasy in HD on the always on YouTube channel. It's at at, always on betches. It always gets me to put the at sign in the YouTube URL or just search for mention it all on YouTube. But that's what we've got going on
Starting point is 00:01:55 over there. But over here, it's been a busy week. It's been a busy week. No boo, spray tan. Sorry, Chloe Kardashian reference, if you didn't get that. No, we're going to talk about Miami a little bit. The Valley. Jacks is back from rehab, but it's not going great. Surprise, surprise. Going to touch on the Love Hotel finale a little bit. You know, next gen is still chugging along. Maybe we'll talk about that. But Love Island, USA. You guys, I have been so, resistant of the Love Island machine because there are simply not that many hours in the day. There are not that many hours in the week. And you know, Love Island is on a lot. And so I always said, I don't have time for that. I have to keep up with everything on Bravo. You know, I try to read a book
Starting point is 00:02:47 every now and then. I read a lot. And Love Island, it's so many minutes. It's so much time. And then Sunday night's episode happened. And I, you guys, I have never had FOMO like this over a reality TV moment that I can remember because I was sitting there already knowing that I was 13 episodes, 12 episodes behind. I had not started this season. I was like, is it too late for me? What do I do? What's the best point of entry? Because normally I'm very much a completest when it comes to watching reality TV.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You know, there's nothing. The hardest question for me is when somebody's like, I really want to start watching Real Housewives of Atlanta or Orange County or New Jersey or whatever. They're like, what's the best place to start? I'm like, baby, episode one, season one. I mean, I'm happy to give like alternate paths, you know, like the Star Wars movies. Some people say you watch four, five, six first and then then go to the prequels. Some people, chronological order. The MCU, you can watch whatever, you know, there's charts and graphs. But I like to start from the beginning, but I just, I did not have time this week. So I dove right in, right at the scene of the crime, with Sunday nights episode, which I think was episode 12, the episode of all episodes, America's recoupling.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And the Hurricane Hoda, Amaya, you could hear from, from 12 miles away, this show is kind of mesmerizing. I know I'm not the first person to express these thoughts. I'm very late to the Love Island train. Bandwagon, of all bandwagon, I'm owning it. I have watched all the episodes this week. I have not gone back in time. And people told me, oh, you can just start wherever.
Starting point is 00:04:44 You can just start last night's episode two days ago, whatever. You'll be fine. And I was so skeptical. I was like, but I'm going to be missing so much. And I'm not going to know who everyone is and what the couples are. I would say it took about 10 minutes for me to feel like I was kind of up to speed. It's like, okay, yeah, like Huda and Jeremiah, their whole thing is annoying. Hannah's like obsessed with Charlie, but also is making out with Pepe.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And then Charlie gets sent home and she's devastated. And then the next day she's making out with Pepe. You know, Mommy, Mamasita, we've all seen it. Like, it took like 20 minutes. Love Island. If anybody is listening to this and is like in a similar predicament where they want to watch it and they're saying, I don't have 25, you know, hours to catch up on this, don't worry about it. Jump in wherever.
Starting point is 00:05:34 People are going to get mad and people are going to say you have to watch the beginning. I get it. I'm usually one of those people. It's fine. But no, there's this recoupling ceremony. And Ariane Maddox, first of all, the best job in the world. Because she gets to hang out at a hotel in Fiji for what, six weeks. And her only real job requirement seemingly is showing up every two to three days,
Starting point is 00:05:59 looking hotter than anyone has ever looked, and delivering about 12 lines of pre-prepared dialogue. And the hosting dialogue on this show, it's like very, very simple to the point of almost robotic, but Ariana like does a good job delivering it. but she's at this recoupling ceremony where people are acting like Sophie's choice is happening next door. Amaya is like, we don't want to do that. Amaya, God, I love like a New York Dominican accent. She just, oh, she scratches the edge for me. No, but people are crashing out left and right and Ariana, stoic as fuck. It's just like, Alandria, how do you feel? Jalen, how about you?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Hmm. Huda, you're now single and vulnerable. How do you feel? And Huda looks like she has been hit by a semi-truck. And the only thing that's left are the lashes. The lashes, oh my God. It's crazy watching this show and just thinking about, so they're in Fiji.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And they are at this villa, which is like, it looks cool, but it doesn't, I don't think it's, It doesn't look very, it's not fancy. And these people are sitting outside all day and all night, some of them sleeping outside. The humidity, the heat that's like radiating off of the screen. I would be breaking out in hives the entire time.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I would be sweating profusely. I would be so uncomfortable. And watching these people sit outside in the sun. all day, slurping on their water bottles, you know, having a chat, pulling each other, you know, this, that, and the other thing. And then they have to go back inside and, like, put on more makeup for the nighttime scene and then they have to go back outside in the humidity. I would be a fucking puddle. That, to me, is the craziest thing. And then they go in and sleep in these big comforters, cuddling with each other. Austin's like, I'm excited to sleep with
Starting point is 00:08:17 Maya and like I'm kind of a furnace. It's like, get away from me. I would wake up drenched. Don't Love Island. All other issues aside, it just looks like the most uncomfortable experience on earth. No, but that recoupling was really just something special. And I do think if you are on the fence as I was, it's a perfect place to jump in because it's so heightened. And the thing with Love Island, because they have these episodes coming out almost every day, there are episodes where not very much happens and that's kind of part of it. You get into this rhythm with watching where it's like, oh yeah, sometimes the point of the episode is just to watch Nick say that he was obsessed with hippos when he was a kid. Sometimes that's all that's happening and that's okay.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And then sometimes they have these challenges and the challenges. I'm sorry. They could not matter less. And the way that they edit them, it's funny because if you watch Survivor these days, it's like they want to spend less and less time on the challenges. They'll have whole reward challenges that they don't even show, truly. And then on Love Island, because they're giving us an hour of footage six days a week, the challenge takes 30 full minutes to watch, and then it ends, and then there's no consequence. This week, there have been two challenges. And the first was hosted by Paige De Sorbo. Now, I saw the picture of Paige in Fiji for Love Island before I had started watching. And so I was like, oh, fun. Like, what's she going to do? She's hosting like the dumbest
Starting point is 00:09:55 challenge anyone could imagine that's about like beavers or woodchucks or something. And there's like grinding on a log and then swinging on a swing and then making out in a cat. It's, it's truly, it's like five steps of nonsense. And we have to watch each of the guy. do it one by one. And then halfway through the challenge, Paige disappears. She's just gone. And Love Island is narrated by this guy, Ian Sterling, who's a very funny comedian. And we come back and all of a sudden, so Paige has been walking through guy by guy. It's like, okay, like Taylor, now who are you going to pick and take a beaver from the basket and get on the log? Page is doing all the directions. And suddenly there's just like no ringleader. And page
Starting point is 00:10:42 is gone. And all we get is from Ian. Paige had to leave. So now I'll take the reins from here. And then there's just, it's just chaos. It's just chaos. It's like, where did Paige go? She, she flew to Fiji for this. And then she's gone. And she doesn't come back. There's not like another thing that Paige hosts. Now, Paige talked about this on Giggly Squad this week. And we, we got some answers. Because watching the show, it was kind of baffling. And she said that basically, so she's wearing this like, suede turtleneck outfit, which is just a wild choice to be wearing outdoors in Fiji in the middle of the summer. And she says that basically she was like overheating and felt sick and had to leave
Starting point is 00:11:25 to throw up. And then she came back and then she was like about to pass out. So she just left. Which like, that sucks. I don't know. I don't know. I mean like you got to do what you got to do. But this week, we give out awards here if you forgot. And I would like to give page an award this week. I would like to give her the Emerald at the Summer House Reunion Award for Blink and You'll Miss It, Paige de Sorbo on Love Island. Congratulations. I hope she got to, like, hang out in Fiji for at least a few days. I mean, that's a long way to go. Meanwhile, the other guest this week, we're, we're spoiling things here if you're, if you weren't, you know, it's Love Island. It's, I mean, get a grip. But on last night's episode, Thursday night's episode, Megan the Stallion.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Now, I love Paige DeSarbo, but Megan the Stallion, that's a get. That's impressive. And what's even better is that when Meg goes in, she goes into the girls kind of dressing room area as they're getting ready for this challenge. And the whole thing, it's like a glorified commercial for Megan the Stallion's new swimwear line. She looks amazing. All the women look great. I mean, the people on this show are like genetic miracles and some cosmetic surgery miracles, too. but they look amazing. The swimsuits are cute. I think you can get them at Walmart, which like, sure, whatever, recession indicator, yada, yada, yada. But Megan comes into the dressing room, and first of all, all the girls are freaking out
Starting point is 00:12:52 because Megan the stallion is standing there in a swimsuit, but then it gets even crazier because Meg is like obsessed with the show. And she's talking to each girl in the room about what they have going on in the house. She's like, oh my God, Elandria, how do you get your booty like that? Hooda girl. You had me worried.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You were crashing out. You stand 20 toes down. And then she reenacts in, she does the little confessional booth. And she says her favorite moment from the season so far was Nick finding out that who does a mommy? Mamasita. It's so good. I mean, Meg is just the personality on a hundred and is the best kind of person to have
Starting point is 00:13:34 come in here because it just like, it just is like an energy bolt into the episode. But then she hosts this like buildup. bombshell challenge that, again, lasts 30 minutes. We watch this twerking competition. We watch them do a puzzle. It is like Survivor doing a puzzle. Tough, tough for this crowd, let's just say. But then they do this whole challenge. And the whole thing is that whichever team wins, they get their bombshell that night. So it's like, oh, okay, some stakes. And then they bring out the guy bombshell, TJ. And then literally 30 seconds later, Meg's like, bring her out. And the guys get their bombshell too. It's like, what do we just do that for? For 30 minutes, we watched
Starting point is 00:14:15 Taylor try to bust a move and then there's literally no consequences. An unsurious show in the best way. I, TBD on how judiciously I will keep up with Love Island for the rest of the season, but safe to say, I will be checking in here and there because it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a really good season, this cast. They've got some juice, I think, sticking with the dating front, the love blank shows, Love Hotel. The finale was on Sunday night. Obviously, it had Joel on the show the other day, so if you haven't listened to that or watched it on YouTube, go check it out. The Love Hotel finale was cute. It was, it could not be more of an opposite vibe from Love Island to Love Hotel. It was just a little bit like, a little bit
Starting point is 00:15:04 lower energy. And the way that I was curious, like, how they would end this show, uh, because obviously there weren't going to be proposals. There weren't going to be, you know, riding off into the sunset together. So it ends with the women deciding if they want to invite a man to check out of the love hotel with them, which is just kind of like, okay, so we're checking out of the love hotel and then going back to our separate lives in different locations. It's a little bit made up. And I mean, I guess this whole thing is made up, but it confirmed my suspicions that I don't think the goal of this show was really for anybody to find love per se. Because, again, spoilers. Luann picks James, who lives in Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:15:49 She lives in New York, and they're talking about distance. And it's like, okay, I've been to Hawaii twice since I've lived in New York. It's a long flight. It's not like a casual amount of distance. And the way they're talking about is a little bit like, okay, so you'll just like come to Hawaii when you need a break. And maybe I'll come to New York. Sometimes it's like, what are we talking about? What's going on? I don't think that's, that's not real. Giselle picks Theo over Phil. Theo is like cute, I guess. Giselle just doesn't really seem like she's been like romantically activated by anyone on this show. I'm not really sure she was open to that. But she picks Theo. And then in the little like after message, they say that he, was supposed to come to D.C. for Halloween, but he lost his phone so that didn't happen. But now Giselle is still talking to Phil. It's like, okay, that's not real. Shannon picks Earl.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It turns out they actually did go visit each other, I guess. She went to Georgia. He went to the OC. They're just not compatible. They're not life partners for each other. And Ashley does pick Ralph over Wale. And again, they don't last. This was a fun little, experiment, I would say. I'm open to another season. Talking to Joel, it sounds like the powers that be are open to another season. We'll see, you know, if that happens, how quickly that happens, if they switch up the format at all. But I don't know. I mean, it was like something a little cute and fun for the summer. It was like a nice little vibe. I like that, you know, Giselle got a two-week vacation in Mexico. It's fun. Just, just good enough, I think. But not, not life change.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And that's what I hope, you know, knowing that a show like Love Island has the ability to produce such highs, I would like to see Love Hotel step it up a little bit if they get another season. A little more drama, a little more something, because the Shannon and Earl thing, it just was like, I get it. At a certain point, I get it. But I don't know. Love Hotel. Not bad.
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Starting point is 00:18:50 a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Okay, the valley, the valley, the valley, the valley of valley. So, Jack says back and everything sucks. I hate it. Jacks being back, he has loomed large over this season, the time that he was in rehab. And it is kind of crazy. Like he was gone, quote unquote, gone. I mean, it's a little bit. It feels like it's a little bit of a false thing to say like, oh, Jacks was gone for 30 days because it's like, sure, he wasn't like attending their cast parties and he didn't go on the trip to Santa Barbara or whatever. But it's like he was texting Brittany and others in the group nonstop.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He was kept abreast of what was happening during filming. He was making these video diaries. He was watching the cameras in the house. It's like it didn't feel like Jacks Taylor actually like went away for 30 days. And he certainly didn't, you know, go away and do any hard soul searching work on himself. Because he comes back and dare I say he seems worse than before. It's kind of wild to watch. know, the guys have this scene where, you know, Jack's is back. There, the guys are hanging out.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And for some reason, we cannot move past the topic of Danny's drinking. And I'm not saying that there's nothing to talk about there. I'm not saying that it should be swept under the rug or anything. Obviously, he's, you know, done some questionable things and all of that. It's just like the way that it has become the group topic of conversation every time they're together, to me, just like, it's a little boring. The way that it's being discussed, both with Danny present and when he's not there, just makes me feel a little bit strange. I've always felt this, like, on, this happened on Roney with somebody like Derinda. It happened with Shannon last season on OC, the way when you're calling someone an alcoholic or talking about them having a drinking
Starting point is 00:21:07 problem, addressing these things as if they are facts when the actual kind of reality is a little bit unclear, a little bit up in the air, certainly, you know, not something that, you know, Danny is not labeling himself as an alcoholic. It's a little strange to me to just kind of keep bringing this up as like group drama fodder. That it's like for Jacks to say, I'm so glad other people have issues. And it's not just Jacks. And I, you know, I can be out of the hot seat for a minute. It's like, first of all, that's like an icky thing to say regardless that you're just like glad other people have problems.
Starting point is 00:21:51 but if Danny is actually your friend and you think that he is an alcoholic, to act like that's a great development for you is just like dark-sighted. Like you're gloating that your friend or at least somebody that is like in your friend group, you say has a drinking problem and you're like, oh, thank God. Now people won't be mad at me. shut the fuck up. He's like, my problem is, my drug is anger and your drug is alcohol. It's like, no, your drug is fucking cocaine and probably alcohol, too.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I mean, let's be real. But Jack's on his high horse, the second he gets out of this 30-day thing, I don't want to say rehab because like, doesn't seem like it. And he is immediately laying into Danny. He's trying to be the accountability police, which is just like rich. and he's, you know, claiming that he, you know, anger is the only thing that's wrong with him and he's working on it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, where? Nobody believes you.
Starting point is 00:22:59 It's wild. It's wild. And Jacks is somebody where, you know, we have some people on Bravo that just struggle so hard with, um, understanding the way that things are coming across and tailoring their own actions to maybe, you know, Jack's had a job. chance this season to sort of take control of the narrative in some ways and make adjustments or even pretend to make adjustments that would make him come across in a better light. He could have just gone away for 30 days. And if he wasn't rage texting Britney, he might be sitting there in rehab being like, fuck Britney, fuck Britney, I hate her, I hate her, I hate her.
Starting point is 00:23:45 If he doesn't send the texts, we don't know about it. And then we think he's in rehab working on himself. But instead, he's giving this cast all the ammunition they need to show us that Jacks is the same old douchebag he's always been. And later in the episode, there's this, so there's a surprise party for Zach's boyfriend Benji because he's back from Canada. I don't remember the whole situation there. But Jacks comes to this party, which it's unclear to me whether he was actually invited. Either way, I know that Zach didn't actually want him there. And he and Zach are having this conversation, which, first of all, just like the bitchiness back and forth.
Starting point is 00:24:27 It's the one scene where I'm kind of like, oh, this is entertaining because watching Zach, like, drag Jack's Taylor is pretty satisfying to me. But then Jacks falls into something that he has done before, and it did not work the first time, which is my show, my show. It's my show. Remember that. My show. And I was so shook when I saw this because I'm like, does Jacks not remember that when he pulled this same move on Vanderpump Rules, it's the last episode he was ever on?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Literally, he said, my show, and he never was on the show again. How dumb are you? Everybody's watching this. This week on the Valley was the turning point where I think much of the, audience was like, actually, I don't want to see that anymore. I don't want to see him anymore. This show would work better if he wasn't always there. I want to see Brittany 2.0. I want to see whatever that looks like. I don't want to see her picking her, picking the photo of her dad and Cruz out of the trash because Jacks threw it away. And she's like, you know, they're arguing back
Starting point is 00:25:43 and forth about whether the cameras should be covered and whether he's going to bring back the computer so she can log out of her accounts. It's like, I want to see Brittany like getting her groove back. I want to see her, you know, with a gentleman caller without Jacks lurking on the edge of the frame. No, but Jacks has not learned literally anything. I mean, him getting served with divorce papers, commenting on his own posts from his Frank Dremon burner account, embarrassing. embarrassing, embarrassing. It's just like, he's a loser. He's a loser.
Starting point is 00:26:21 He was on Watch What Happens Live this week. All the polls were like 100% Team Brittany, as they should be. Like, loser. I can't say it enough times. He's a loser. And the whole thing about, I mean, seeing, seeing crews or not seeing crews, again, like, I believe that Jacks is like not doing the right thing in this situation. but I also just kind of don't want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Because it's depressing. You have this child who has special needs and has already been through, you know, some turmoil with his parents. You know, I'm sure he's like seen and heard stuff that is not great. And now we're watching this just this cycle continue of Brittany trying to, you know, move forward and yada, yada. and, you know, does Jacks even care? He hasn't reached out. He's getting Botox before he's trying to see his kid. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:27:23 It's not good. Meanwhile, Nia and Janet, Janet stands 10 toes down, just like Huda. The reunion looks, though. Janet looks hot. I got to give it up, you know. I'm excited to see next week, I think, they're going to Hawaii. I'm excited to see Janet and Kristen kind of. be at each other's throats again because I feel like we've gotten a little bit away from that
Starting point is 00:27:47 with this whole focus on Danny. And I would love for us to just kind of like put the Danny thing in a box a little bit because I don't think we're getting anywhere. But other than that, I don't want to say like an entertaining episode of the Valley, but I think a really interesting, like, substantial episode of the Valley. Because this Jack's return was something that had kind of been looming the whole season. And now that he's back, it really just, it makes you think, I would, oh my God, it would be so satisfying. If he gets fired after this season, after doing my show thing, a second time, sociopathic. But like, oh, it would be delicious.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I don't know. I'm scared for that reunion, man. I just, I feel like it's going to be like, I feel like that forehead vein is going to be popping. The face is going to be red. Jack's, when he's in that mode, kind of gives to me Louis, like Teresa's Louis, just like, a bit of darkness. I just got to chill. It might be the air conditioning.
Starting point is 00:28:51 It might be the spirit of Jack's Taylor. You never know. Speaking of husbands with a little bit of sinister energy, let's talk about Miami and what's going on with Todd and Alexia. Because Alexia, I am rooting for Alexia. So hard. I just want her to never speak to that man again. This week's episode was kind of like a tale of two cities in Miami because while the rest of the cast stays home and tries to get Alexia to realize that her husband sucks,
Starting point is 00:29:26 Larsa and Lisa are off to Milan for a little mini trip, for a little fashion show. And the timing of this could not be more perfect for chaos and pettiness because we, We've just seen Larsa and Lisa have this blow-up argument at Jody's birthday party with, you know, Larsa getting kicked out and fake breakup and fake bitch and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just shots left and right. And then who gets to go on like a two-person trip to Milan? These two. These two enemies.
Starting point is 00:30:01 No, so there's a Philip Lyne fashion show in Milan, and Lisa is walking in the show. and Larsa's son is walking in the show. So Larsa goes along with Preston and Lisa brings Jody. And so they're on the same flight to Milan. And then they show up at the airport and they have to ride in the same car to the hotel. And this is just, I mean, whoever orchestrated this, can I just say thank you? I'd like to say thank you. How about a round of a plaz?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, you did such a good job. A little family van. and a dream. I mean, just the four of them, the amount of suitcases, these ladies don't travel light. In one van? No, but it's the kind of van where you get in and it's like, it's like a little bigger than a minivan, but not a full sprinter. So they get in.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And Lisa and Larsa are like sitting, facing each other basically with their knees touching in this van. And it is the most uncomfortable thing you have ever seen. Larsa's son is sitting up in the passenger seat, so it's just Larsa, Lisa, and Jody in the back. And the whole time, they're like, okay, we can, you know, we don't want a fain front of Preston, whatever, we want to keep it cute.
Starting point is 00:31:16 These ladies can't keep it cute. They hate each other's guts. And they are, I mean, it would be one thing if they hadn't seen each other in a while and, you know, they had some animosity, but then they haven't talked. It's like, no, they just, Larsa got kicked out of the house yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:31 She still has the footprint on her ass from getting kicked. just perfect. And then this pettiness tour of Milan continues from the hotel to the fitting, to the show itself, to the after-party. They cannot help themselves. And Larsa is somebody, Larsa makes me laugh so bad because she, she is going to make that petty comment. She is going to make that dig and she is going to, she delivers the line perfectly. Like even this like VIP coordinator, who seemingly is in charge of like making sure that both of them are taken care of during this like Milan experience. Larca's like, she's not my friend. Don't ask, she's like, I don't know where she is.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We're not friends. And then they're sitting at the show, first of all, again, whoever put the seating chart or whatever together for this show, A plus, give them their flowers because it's Larsa and then the VIP guy and then Jody squeezed in on. a little couch watching the fashion show. And so Larsa's son walks second in the show. And the VIP guy is like, oh my God, he walked second. So it's basically like he's opening the show. That means he's good. That means Philip likes him. And Larsa's like, yeah, my baby's doing so good. First of all, it's like he didn't open the show. Famously, the opener of the show is the first person to walk out, not the second. I know. Math is crazy. And then Lisa is like the 50th look in the show. And so Larson's like, what is Lisa? Like, number 50? Yeah, sounds about right. Like, it's just a,
Starting point is 00:33:12 it's a fashion show. There's just, the looks go in order. And Lisa's wearing one of the leather dresses and the leather dresses are later in the progression of the show. I don't think it's like shady to be 50th in the show. It's not a ranking. It's not like they put their favorite look first and the worst one last. But no, while Lisa is walking down the runway, Larsa, fully breaks out the iPhone with like the housewife selfie light. I've seen this in action. It's crazy. And she takes out the big light and is taking a selfie with the VIP guy who's there for
Starting point is 00:33:48 both of them. And so you see, well, Lisa is walking past like six feet away on the runway. And Jody's like looking up at her like a puppy dog. Larsa is full like selfie light blasting taking a picture. not watching. And after Lisa walks past, Jody just goes, she did great.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I can't. These two are too much. And then at the after party, they're fighting, it's just, it's so good. However, this little like side quest came together,
Starting point is 00:34:24 chef's kiss, this was what I needed. Because back in Miami, the vibes are tough. You know, Gertie and Julia are not on a good page. Adriana seems to be in a weird place, with a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But Johnny is back from Madrid. Alexia and Marisol's friend, Johnny, who's just, I like seeing him. He seems like a good guy. And they have this kind of like tough love luncheon for Alexia. And it is the most we have ever seen Alexia open up about the kind of reality of her relationship with Todd. Because Todd and Alexia have always been that kind of
Starting point is 00:35:07 couple where like we're seeing some of the red flags and we're kind of trying to raise the the flag. And Alexia is like, no, Todd is perfect. He is my dream man. He takes care of me. He's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's a good businessman. He's good to the kids. He's, you know, the love of my life. We have great sex. Yada, yada, yada. And to hear her now kind of strip back some of those protective layers and say, no, he, he's controlling. He didn't like me being on the show. He didn't like the platform that it gave me, the power that it gave me. And it made him feel like he wasn't in control.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And for Alexia to say that she offered to him to step back from doing the show because he didn't like the platform that it gave her, I didn't think we would ever get this level of candor from her about that relationship. Because, you know, it kind of is reminiscent. people compare it a lot to Teresa and Louie, that with Louie, there's all these red flags, there's all these questions, there's all these, you know, rumors and things swirling,
Starting point is 00:36:13 and you will never get Teresa to give an inch there. You will never get her to actually address any of those things in a real way. And I thought that Alexia and Todd were kind of going to be on that same road for a long time. And so for Marisol to talk about how she, She saw these last few years that Alexia was stressed and that the environment in their home with Todd, that he was always belittling her and criticizing her and making her feel smaller and taking away her voice and her agency. It's really painful because Alexia is such a, she's such a strong presenting person and she's such a fiery person. and she's such a fiery person and just like a star that to know that for the last few years she was really molding herself into this smaller shape to kind of fit with what this guy
Starting point is 00:37:19 wanted from her and that she allowed that to happen. I mean, you see her in the scene. She's sobbing saying like, it makes me feel weak because I love him and because I, you know, I want to make things work. And I hope that she's able to kind of stay resilient and not fall back into the Todd mindset. Because watching Marisol say, you know, like my best friend, I didn't have her. It wasn't the same Alexia for these years. And now since they've been apart, I'm starting to see that energy back.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I'm starting to see that spirit back. And, you know, Marisol and I, she's on next week's episode and we talked a little bit about it. but it's, it's just, you just hate to see it. And, you know, at this lunch, it really feels like Alexia is starting to sort of build up that strength to say, no, I am actually done. No, I'm not going back. I'm not going to, like, crawl back into the bed just because it's nice. And the kids, too, you know, Alexia does not play about her kids. And so if she is admitting to herself that Todd F'd with the kids, I think that's,
Starting point is 00:38:31 that's when you know it's really over. And I hope so. I hope we'll see. Miami though. Spicy. It's good. It's so good. Next week there's going to be some Jodi drama.
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Starting point is 00:39:50 microaggressions. Riley is like the least scary person imaginable. She's so, she's like, soft-spoken and sweet and beautiful and kind. I've met her. Just like weirdo bullshit. Get a grip. Charlie is like the least valuable player on this show. I'm sorry. Get over yourself. And Georgia too, wash your hands. Wash your hands. Watch your mouth. That's that. Good for Riley. The candy phone call. You can hear the like candy voice crack a little bit when she's on the phone. Good stuff. Next gen. Interesting show. Looking forward to talking more about it. Looking forward to seeing where the season goes. But you know, we'll get into that more next week. All right. Now it is time to. To smooth things over, brought to you by Sarah V.
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Starting point is 00:41:11 The streets are talking that Monique Samuels is coming back to Real House Stories of Potomac. Now, Monique is an interesting case because, you know, the last time we saw her on our TV screens, it was a little bit fraught, you could say. You know, she had a bit of an altercation with one Candace Dillard Bassett. Monique ended up leaving the show. Candace ended up staying. Candice now has departed the show. she's being a mother, literally and figuratively. And that has maybe kind of cleared the way for Monique Samuels to come back.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And who does Monique Samuels need to smooth things over with? Giselle Bryant. Giselle and Monique, we could have had it all. Actually, I don't know. They didn't really hit it off on the right foot from day one. You know, Monique, I have four homes, Samuels, and Giselle, oh, you do, Bryant. They never quite clicked. And I don't know if I see that in the future for them.
Starting point is 00:42:10 But the thing is, we've seen with Potomac that this show works best when we can have a little bit of fun shade. We can have a little bit of reading. We can have a little bit of, you know, push and pull and drama. But it doesn't work when we have people that can't be in the same room together. We've done it before. I don't want to do it again. Last season was such a nice development of, look, Giselle and Wendy can be friends. again. Look, everybody can be in the same room, and for the most part, it's okay. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And so, Monique coming back, I feel like this is, this is the right time. Because, look, Giselle and Monique had this big old issue because Giselle was, you know, seemed to be taking Candace's side post-Alter Cossione. But then Candace isn't even on the show anymore, and Giselle and Candice ended up hating each other. So it feels like it could be like an enemy of an enemy as my friend kind of thing. I don't know that that's like the best way to form a relationship, but it could be a start. It could be a building block. And I don't think that Monique is going to come on the show being like yada yada, Candace sucks. I hate her so much still to this day. I think it's going to be time for her to turn over a new leaf. You know, she is no longer married to Chris Samuels.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That is something I'm interested to see. I wonder if that could change her energy, her vibe that she brings to the group. Maybe Giselle will receive that well. And just in the last couple of weeks, it was World Pride in D.C. So there was a ton of stuff going on. You know, it was, it looked like a lot of fun. It looked exhausting, frankly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:51 I'm too old for that. But GNA, Gizel and Ashley's athletic wear line turned mental health foundation, turned lifestyle. It's more joggers. I don't know. They had a float in the Pride parade and all the Potomac Girlies were there. Actually, I don't know if they all were there. A bunch of them were there, including Monique. Now, I love that the girls can bury the hatchet and smooth things over in the name of pride. But I also think that there was a time when Monique and Giselle would not have smooth things over even in the name of
Starting point is 00:44:25 pride. So I feel like we're making some progress. And I feel like Ashley, now that Ashley and Giselle have this, you know, business connection as well as having a relationship personally. I feel like Ashley is probably pulling Jazeel in the direction of being okay with Monique. And also, Giselle, producer Bryant, I'm giving her a lot of middle names. I don't know where her middle name is. I don't know. Giselle. I feel like Giselle wouldn't have a middle name. She's just Jezelle Bryant. But I feel like she is a producer mindset, girly, through and through. And she knows that Monique coming back on the show is going to add a nice little bit of spice to the soup. It's going to make things interesting. And yeah, they can have their, you know, maybe contentious moment.
Starting point is 00:45:17 They can, you know, maybe go to a little lunch where nobody actually touches the food, but they hash things out. Their disagreements in the past. Maybe that'll happen. But I think that Giselle will understand that it is in the show's best interest to kind of keep the story moving along. It doesn't work when we're stuck in one place for too long. And I think that enough time has passed. I think that enough time has passed that Monique and Giselle will be able to coexist. And look, if they have some like dramas and disagreements, that's fine. That's good.
Starting point is 00:45:49 We love it. We don't want them to never disagree on anything ever again. we just want them to like coexist, to just, you know, lighten the mood a little bit. And then they can have, go back to Funshade. You know, that's what we love. That's what Potomac thrives on. That's what I thrive on. That's what I want all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But that's who I want to smooth things over. And it looks like I'm going to get my way. Now, next week, I don't know. It's going to be tough to find another duo that's really, really working on smoother things over. But thanks again to Sarah V for sponsoring this episode. and for helping us smooth things over. And just like those Bravo fudes, hydration can go deeper than you think. Up to 10 layers deep with Saravis' AM and PM facial moisturizing lotions.
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