Mention It All - I Survived Being a Bravo Producer Ft. Eleni Sabracos & Will Oser (Blabbermouths)

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

On today's episode, Dylan joins forces with the Blabbermouths, Eleni Sabracos and Will Oser, to maximize their joint slay. This crossover event is filled with hot takes, Bravolebrity lore, and Will’s suspiciously close friendship with Margaret Josephs. They break down the art of being a blabbermouth and discuss iconic reality television blabbermouths (both complimentary and derogatory), share their behind the scenes journeys from BravoCon to Betches, and get into why Ramona Singer once made Eleni empty her dishwasher. And, we find out what actually IS good for us in the new segment, That’s My Opinion!, inspired by the one and only Tamra Judge. Go to the Always On YouTube page to watch full length episodes: Youtube.com/@AlwaysOnBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See Store Online for details. Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, though. Hey, everyone.

Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. I am so excited to be joined today by two of my coworkers, my colleagues, my fellow Betches hosts. They host the Blabber Mouths show every week on the Betches YouTube. And now they are here and Mention It All. Eleni Sabrakis and Will Oser. Hello. Hi.

Welcome. Thanks for having us. Lovely to see you. We're all wearing blue today. This is really fun to be doing with our boss. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's like you're my boss and you're like my grand boss. You're my boss.

Yeah. So if you're if you're listening on audio, Eleni is Will's direct manager and I am Aleni's direct manager. You love to say manager, Dylan. You're like, I don't sign your checks. I don't like, no, I don't like the word boss because it's like I, I like manage. I'm not like in charge of it. Yeah, but it's more fun to be like my boss.

My boss. Right. Like if you were completely. about me to like your friend at brunch. I would expect to be like, oh, my boss. Yeah, oh, my boss, Dylan. I just don't, I don't know. I'm like, it feels like, it feels like so aggressive.

I love it. I'm like, Will, I'm your boss. Shut up. Yeah, you are very, she's like literally a dictator, tyrant. But whenever I talk about like my work structure or bosses, I feel like I say I have three bosses. You, Dylan and Katie. So that it's like, I'm always like, people are like, oh, which boss are you talking about?

I'm like, oh, this one. But I'm not talking poorly. I hope you know that wasn't just like I was just like when I'm showering praise on my boss people are always like which ones you love the most and you always say Dylan yeah yeah and he's always talking about Dylan when he's showering praise I go Dylan lets me watch summerhouse screeners early my favorite boss oh my god well I mean let's it was a very contained space where we watched oh yeah sorry sorry oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god I'm not firing out the link every no he's not no but so we did we're recording this you know in whenever we're recording it

we've watched summerhouse and we're going to talk about it yes we're We're going to talk about lots of stuff, though. Aleni, this is actually not your first time. I was going to say some of you fans of mention at all might remember me if you're really a loyal listener. The longtime mentioners. The longtime mentors will remember me from, was it two, three years ago? Oh, God.

It was after BravoCon in 2022 because it was the one at the Javitt Center. And how times have changed? Because while we were recording that episode, I at the same time was trying to get Taylor Swift tickets for Heather Gay. So times have really changed. No, I do remember. this because we were we were sitting in the studio at the time we had this big table and you had your phone out on the table and not only like was the phone out but you wouldn't let the screen go dark

it was like because you were like just so we know at any second I may need to bring this to a halt buy tickets and purchase Taylor Swift tickets which I did get them for Georgia and Ashley and the third one and well no it was Heather and her friend oh not that one was broad but just like they did get the tickets and they did go but did you buy them during the episode it was Afterwards. That would be good team. The queue took longer than this episode. For anyone who's like confused, I used to be a Bravo producer.

And I came, I took like a video of Heather at BravoCon with a baguette. With a baguette. And Dylan was like. It was like backstage in the bowels of the jabit center. Yeah. With like golf carts. Insert the clip. Dylan was like, oh, can I post this on Bravo by Betches?

And I was like, yes, you can. If I can come on your podcast. Look, you had an angle. With a foreshadow. All I wanted was to yap. And now Dylan is my boss. and I work here. So how times have changed? Talk about the butterfly effect.

Talk about the butterfly effect. If I had never taken that video of a baguette, I never would have been on your podcast and I never would have worked here. It is interesting. So you were a reality TV producer and also working with Heather for a while before you worked here. Will you used to work at Peacock. Yep.

I also worked kind of in that same realm and not to make it about me. But I was also there at said BravoCon with you guys. Oh, he was. I was volunteer to help. Like I was like just like they're like, you need to go stand. over here and take photos of fans in these little... I actually have a video of Will that I can send for the edit. You guys, I have got you.

That's where we also, we had just become getting to know each other there. I had like met you there or something. And I basically was like helping facilitate in the Bravo Museum where it was like, oh, tell us to keep walking. You were by the shot ski. I was by the shotsky and I was taking photos of every fucking fan that came in. And it must have been like 400 people that was on my shift. And so I was there.

but in a different capacity than you guys. Do you know that TikTok trend that's like, they don't know it yet, but in three, I think if you, I at that BravoCon passed you, and I remember being like, oh, that's Dylan from Bravo by Betches. Should I say hi? No. And it's like Will at the fan booth and it's like, they all don't know it yet, but soon they're all going to be working together.

Well, I think was the first time I met you, Will, at that Dancing Queens event at 30 Rock? No, I actually didn't get to go. That was also at 30 Rock and I was there. Dancing Queens. I have, nobody has thought about that show. R&P Dancing Queens. really try with that.

When I was still working at peekup, they're like, I don't think that's getting renewed. But basically, I think we had met at another, oh, we met at the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls' trip season three. Thailand.

That's what we all met. That weird spa event where they were like, okay, this is such a funny event. Because I feel like with Bravo events, sometimes it's a very like reality TV fan kind of crowd. And this was an event where like they invited just like, like the most like, broad level influence.

And that's why we were invited. Because they invited literally random. So we were at the Crosby Street Hotel. And in this downstairs screening room area, we watched the first, the premiere episode of that season of Girls Trip. And like me and a few of my friends that were there, we're like so excited to see this episode.

Because we're like, it's going to be Portia and Candice and Alexia and Marisol. And it's going to be messy and fun. And then there's like 35 influencers. Who are just like... That's why we were there. And you were there for a work with. Watching the episode, I'm like hooting and hollering. And then like these girls are just like...

Well, I had... I never was invited Bravo events, obviously. But I used to post like about my job sometimes. So I think when they searched like Housewives on TikTok, I came up. Because I worked on that show. So I was like, oh, I want to go see it. Yeah. But that event, I feel like normally, sometimes the Bravo influencer events are just like

a talent and like a free drink. But that one was extensive. Like there was foot massages. They brought, so we watched the episode and then they were like, come next door for a mini spa experience. And yeah, so it was like little mini manicures,

like facials, and then Porsche pops out. Out of nowhere with the missing bottle. With the Clauseuil. Yeah, which I was there for that. And that was a whole bag. That wasn't even like, wasn't that. Well, I can think I can say this.

But I have a theory. This is my personal theory. Okay. I think Pepsi. drank the tequila and when I tell you like everyone searched the footage and everyone was asking like did anyone. Pepsi the house manager. I think that he drank the cause as well. I know hate to Pepsi. Love him. Gem Angel. Pepsi if you're listening. But I just have that was my personal theory. I don't know like what actually happened. Okay. But I feel like that whole influencer experience was like much better than my

actual trip to Thailand. It was so nice. You're like I was getting elephant shit thrown at me. I was getting elephant shit and I was having Irdle Babel syndrome in Thailand But that was lovely You weren't the only one That was a toughie Wasn't Liam McSweeney She was deathly ill I will say yeah

I think that Thailand like the time difference And like the food It's a lot for a person And also the heat I'm sure as well Like that whole climate is like Well I feel like it's hard also Because when you're on a show like that Like when they're filming White Lotus in Thailand

They're there for six months They're living there They're getting acclimated When you go to film a reality show You touch down and you're filming Yeah there's no adjustment It's real time You're jet lag

you're, you're feeling sick, you're adjusting, like. You see the worst version of you. And when you're producing it, you're working these long days. 18 hour days. It's not like they fly you out two weeks in advance so you can like acclimate. I personally had a headache for an entire week, but that's okay. From the women or just in general. I'm sure that didn't help.

I think it was the time difference, but sure. There was one. You're like Marisol is kind of loud. Yeah, we filmed like one boat day, which I think that's where like Leah got her period and she was like yelling. I think something else happened. Yeah, Portia Bada. Leahy-Bi, Porsche-A-Bai.

That was like the longest day ever. I think the seas were crazy or something, but we, like, couldn't get back to port. There was something crazy with that. And that was probably like the worst 20-hour day of, like, heat-stroke where I was like, I don't know if I like this job anymore. I think I would like to work at a desk. Dylan, are you hiring?

And now you get to make canvas. And now I get to make memes with you, girls. Yes. Speaking of, I want to talk about your new show. Yes. Blabber mouse. Love it. We're like, we're a few weeks.

to it, we're getting settled. What is the, what is like the one sentence? Like, what does Blabbermouth mean to you? Oh my gosh. Blabbermouse is a show that Betches gave us because we couldn't shut up at work. Yeah. Specifically, maybe Dylan had a hand in this. He was like, those two need a room where they can talk so they stop talking to me.

Or like, I think these two are so loud and have so many opinions. Yeah. Let's put them in a room and see how long they last. Yeah. And then maybe try to, you know, make some lemonade out of it and make my and have fun with it. And also for those who don't know, we run the Betches' Instagram together.

So it's also kind of a behind the scenes about like why we post stuff, working in social media. If you want an elaboration on our thoughts or you're like, why did Betches tweet that? That's weird. It's because it's us too running the account and we have random thoughts.

Or it's our Victorian child that we feature regularly. He's not here. He must be taking a nap. He's coming later. He's normally here. He's normally here. He can only work certain hours.

Yes. Ain't that the truth? So you do have a physical doll that you explain things to. Yeah, that we got on Facebook Marketplace. Which is probably haunted. With budget from this company. But it's important to note that anything that's bad posted or, you know, something that doesn't just hit. It's usually, me and Alanyar are in these intense meetings to make sure we're strategizing correctly.

And the doll is at our computer posting at whim. A random thought. It's not us. If you're like, why did they post Nipo Bar. If there's anything you don't like blame the doll. It definitely wasn't us to hung over on a Sunday. So I want to talk about the idea of being a blabbermouth. Yes.

And obviously like that, we love blabber mouths. We are blabber mouths. Who are some like reality TV figures that you would categorize as blabber mouths? And also is it always a good thing to be a blabber mouth? Oh. Like can somebody be blabber mouth parentheses derogatory? For sure. Yeah.

I think that a good blabbermouth is also a good listener. But also they're blabbing in a way where they're adding value to the conversation. They're not just blabbing to blab. Do you know what I'm saying? And some of these reality TV girls are blabbing to blab. Yeah. And that's derogatory. Yeah.

And I think another part of being a blabber mouth is like you said, listening. But I think you are also knowing your timing, right? Like you can talk for a long time, but being able to not only add value, but be comedic with it and know when to say the right things to keep the conversation going in that blabber central. The first person who comes to mind for me is Dorit Kemsley. Oh, yeah. Total blabber girl. She is maybe more than anyone else has gotten the edit in her confessionals where she's telling a story and then they start to like chop it up and sort of fade in to one.

So it's like, and then I was going to the thing. And then there's. That's my favorite edit. And then I was a job. But don't you think that and that's why. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like my favorite is when they also are like She has a bunch of cuts in a confessional or like on a trip

Where she's speaking the language that they're on the trip to Oh, she's a international blubberham So those are my favorite because then she even gets those cuts when she's speaking another language Right, she's like, when she was ordering drinks in Italy out Oh my God Gin tonic Gintonic Campari soda

It's like just Buco de pep Just say gin and tonic to read It's like you're speaking in English Like I can do an accent too. Yeah, yeah, right. Exactly. I was going to say, I think more from like personal experience with them,

the two that would talk the most like on the phone to me where I would just be like, okay, would probably be, and this is, well, one's compliment. Don't tell us, a rose on a thorn. A rose of a thorn. One is Lisa Barlow. Where she's so funny that I'm like, I could listen to her all day. Yeah. But she definitely would be like a blabber mouth on the phone to me.

And the other would be Ramona Singer. She would just be talking. to talk. Yeah. Like she would be like, we'd be preparing a scene and she'd be like, could you empty my dishwasher while she's like talking at me? I'm like, no, Ramona. I'm not emptying your dishwasher right now.

And then somehow she'd be talking and somehow I would end up emptying her dishwasher. No, no, no, no, just put the cups away. Yeah. She's like, okay, well, just grab that. Like, she's very like, New York mother. I do feel like that's, that would be like a hazard of being in these people's homes sometimes, like in that production capacity is like you're also just kind of an assistant for the day. Yeah.

I'm like doing a task right now. And I think it's a lot of mentors or Ramona's like to the cameraman like, oh, well, just take out the truss while you're walking down there with that battery. You're a big strong man. Yeah, you're a big strong man. So that happens.

Lisa Barlow definitely has the quality where like you could you could walk away from the phone for 30 minutes and then you come back and she hasn't noticed you out there. Haven't they said that? Probably. She's like, she's a blabber mouth.

She's a blabber, but like she is a compliment like a she's good to blab with. She's sweet. She's good. And you don't have. have to worry about probably finding conversation to talk about. She has that, like, exactly. It's like two girls telling each other exactly.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. NGK has that. Not to take credit for NGK, but lore, when I was on the season of Salt Lake City, it was season two. She was a friend, right? She was a friend, and they actually cut a lot of, she was Jen's friend, but then also had, like, a relationship with Lisa. Right.

And I think that there was, like, confusion on, like, who she should be friends of with, because she had history of both of them. and Lisa was more like business-wise. I think at the time they were doing like the hair, the boys hair care brand at her salon. And so we filmed a lot of scenes with her and Jen, but obviously they all got cut because... Jen had other things going on.

But I think that there was a scene where we were filming at Lunatic Fringe like for something. And Angie wasn't really in it. She was just like the owner. Like the same way when they film in a restaurant or have a party, it's like, oh, this is the party planner. She was not a main character.

but I had been talking to her so much about filming that I was like, wait, this woman is like really funny and interesting and rich. And obviously Greek and I'm Greek. And I had like met her at church and stuff and I was like, oh, we need to get a Greek on the real housewives. And so I remember telling my bosses about her. And so I do want to say like I really planted the early seeds of like this woman is interesting and fun. Well, I think that's part of the thing with as a reality TV, even as a viewer, but also of course on the production side of things like really seeing that vision that somebody. who is a very minor role or is in the background, like finding that nugget of something that it's like,

oh, this person has that spark. And I think you don't always see it at first. Like with Angie Kay, it took a minute. It took a minute. And even when she was on as a friend originally, I feel like she didn't get a lot of good edits or like she, people weren't as obsessed with her. I want to say I was always an Angie K stand

because I thought she was, like you said, very more interesting than some of the other woman that were like the other Angie and Dana. So I was like, I didn't really like the two of them, but I loved Angie Kay. And so when she became a series regular housewife, I was like, she's getting the good will that she deserves. I think it's hard to be yourself off the bat on like a setting like that. Yeah. And she probably has like the same Greek trauma that I do where it's like, how are people going to perceive me?

And so I think maybe she was being a little bit more reserved and a little bit more like not authentically herself. Because I remember watching her and being like, oh my God, that is so not her. Like just like knowing her. In the beginning. But now I think she's much more herself. Well, I think because she's somebody, and even, like, she came on the podcast. Like, I've met her a couple times. I feel like she has that really, like over the top, like the big sunglasses, the Greek flag

everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Like that character. But then also she can be really, like, soft and sweet. She's so, like, she's really sensitive. She's so sweet. When I tell you, like, she bought, like, this is before she was anything.

Like, she literally was just the, like, store owner at Lunatic Fringe and we were filming at her store a ton. She, like, bought one of the. the audio guy's wife was having a baby. She bought them baby gifts. She got me a birthday little card. Like she's very thoughtful. And I felt like that wasn't shown. And she is like so wanting to be a good mother because like of her parental history. Like, she's got a good family. I love Sean. Yeah. We're Stanji Kay's. We're Stanjee. We're Sanjee Kay's. I love her. She's the sweetie. I always will stand with the Greeks, obviously. I also think probably the most prominent bravo blabber mouth

these days is Bethany Frankl because she's on TikTok 14 times a day yapping about chicken salad and Bethany the blabberhead like that's what she should literally she should have gotten the rights to blabber mouths before we got it up careful she's going to come out to your ass

Gina Rand Talking is my thing it's always been I think that she is I on popular opinion I kind of like some of her hot take sometimes because she's willing to go the extra mile to really talk about, you know, hot takes about Bravo and also be like the voice

of reason slash devil's advocate. So it's actually kind of welcoming sometimes to see someone who's a little like weary but also like calling things out. I don't mind Bethany's position right now because I feel like she's putting a lot of content out there. Yeah. But I, I only have to engage with it when I choose to. Yeah. Fair. She's not like, she's not on a show. She's not like out here really like, She just is like in her little TikTok bubble. She's in her niche. Going to T.J. Max and trying to find Beaded purses.

Where does she stand with Bravo now? What happened with that article? Well, I mean, I've, I've talked about this a lot, but it's like she very conveniently, I think, well, yeah, like I've said this. Like, she was so into that, like, Bravo reckoning, like, reality reckoning. What happened with that? When the strikes, when the, like, SAG and Writers Guild strikes were happening, she was like, Bravo needs to go on strike two. We need to unionize.

I'm going to be the face. of this. Raquel got dragged. This person got treated poorly. And then like the second that stopped being like in the zeit guy. She hasn't spoken about it since. And so like I think that Bethany blabs a lot and then

it's like we got to follow. She blabbed the blab but doesn't walk the blab. What? Will does this. If you watch her show he says things that doesn't make any sense. I'm finding it. I'm finding it. You got what I mean where she talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. So let's figure out.

blabs the blabs the blob, but she doesn't. You know, we don't have to always do a play on words. I know, but it's not fun if it comes in the most. Sometimes I don't know what I'm going to say and my mouth just finds the way. And sometimes it doesn't. Like, no, that's not inappropriate, but you know what I mean. It's really like, it finds a way. I was going to say that when she released that whole article thing, I understood where

she was coming from about like that, like, an actor gets residuals and they don't. But I, she lost me on the treatment of them during filming. Because if you've ever worked like in production, girls. I'm talking to all the people behind the scenes. Like she lost me on like, who needs to union? Yes,

Bravo does need to unionize, but it's the production people. Yeah, it's not you to reality. You had a five-star lunch and a spa. I had to sit in a corner on the ground for 14 hours, no meal break and no extra money.

Right, you had like a warm can of diet coconut bag of chips for a lot. Yes. I think if, yeah, if that was that, I was like, that one boat where we were trapped, I was like, I need a cracker. I was like, they had their little short

Coonerty board. I'd walk by and like grab a pretzel stick. Are we going to see you in callback clips of you like the producer? They're going to be like, actually for continuity, you need to put that cracker back. Yeah. But I think she could have done something with that better if she hadn't gone the the actor at.

I think if she'd gone the production route and been a face for reality TV unionizing because like I worked on a scripted show, which is unionized. oh baby 14,000 meals. Crackers everywhere. Crackers everywhere. Breaks, chili cart rolling through set. But if she had gone that right, I think she would have had a lot more people behind her than like the people. Because the reality TV girls aren't going to go with her because they don't want to lose their jobs on their shows.

That was the whole, that was the thing for me is like she was saying that she wanted to unionize reality stars. But she never, to actually be the person leading that charge, you have to do so much work to get people inside. the tent with you. Yeah. And there was literally not a single other current Bravo person. Right. Yeah. Whoever was willing to be.

Only people who wanted scream time. Yeah. And I don't mean to be like anybody who said that was like just being thirsty. But it's like, but it's like the current housewives have to want to be in the union too. Right. Like the only one she got unfortunate were like Leah McSweeney Aviva. Right. The people trying to sue.

Yeah. Which like go get your bag. Yeah. But like they don't need the union. They're not on the show anymore. Yeah. Bethany girl, you could take some advice from us. you could have had a lot more effects with your union.

And that's on things that happened two years ago. We have thoughts. The only other I wanted not to quickly change, but quickly add in, the other blabberhead person that I wanted to say in Bravo universe is what's her name with the glasses? I was saying her before. Oh, Dana Wilkie.

25,000. 25,000. I don't know who that is. She's a deep cut from Real House with Beverly Hills. Yeah, she was a friend up on Beverly Hills for like two seasons. And to this day, she has a podcast where she talks about Bravo. And she's also in like... Oh, talk about people who can't let things go.

Yeah, well, she's in the... Yeah, that's hard, Dana. And she's had like... I've never seen that woman in my life. She was in the housewife and the Hustler Hulu documentary about Erica Jane. And I was just like, wait, what? I always get reached out to about those,

but I think I can't with my NDA. Same. But if you guys want to drop a pretty penny, I will blab. I don't know if I've said this before. I got reached out to for the one that they were doing about Randall Emmett. Me too. And I was like, I do not want to be on the record

talking about this. It's one thing for me to be in the cone of podcast studio where I'm like, nobody listens to this. I mean, like, you guys do and thank you and I love you. But like, nobody listens to this. If I'm on Hulu talking about Randall Emmett, like allegedly yada, yada, yada, bitch, I'm getting sued. Yeah, no. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off.

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Work your magic. Wait, so the other night I want to talk about, I went to the premiere of another simple favor. Oh, I was there too. You were there too. So we're like working. I guess Betches is like working with them, but I didn't even know that I just got invited.

I was like, yeah, go to the movie. I knew that we were like broadly, were doing like a campaign with them. I didn't know that like, movie premiere. You and co-workers were like attending to capture. I was just like, y'all, I'll go see the movie.

I was the first one. Well, you love a movie. Yes. No, but so I got there and I, I do. I got to my, he's an AMC golden card pass member. He gets invited to all the free ones.

My golden card pass. No, I am. Oh, you are. He's an A-List AMC member. I would, no, I, there are so many things I would cancel and stop paying for before my AMC A-MCA list.

100%. My insurance being one of them. Will, you're not an AMC. I am. Oh, you think you know everything about you, bitch. I'm sorry, but Dylan is at a movie. No, I know. I don't post a lot because I'm like, I'm always running home to go see it in New Jersey.

It's too busy. I'm too busy. No, but so I went to this thing and I got to my seat early and I always, when I go, if you're at like a screening like that, I'm like, I don't know if there's going to be a line or whatever. So I got there early and I was like, damn, I'm like pretty, I'm like pretty early. And then I realized that I had the perfect vantage point of people watching. Oh, my favorite. Because I was, it was at jazz at Lincoln Center, which I had never been in before, but they put me in this like little box seat that was just elevated but right at the back of like the orchestra section. And that's where all the celebrities were sitting.

So I had the perfect view. And the first person I clocked because I was like, okay, like let's see who's here. These New York premieres, they always, it's an, it's an eclectic group usually. And the first person I noticed was Mr. J, aka J. Manuel from America's Next Top Model. with the gray hair. Good for him. The like frosty gray hair. There was Mr. Jay and Miss Jay.

Ooh. No, but so there are judges. Oh, got it. I see. Clocked. Thank you. Early, early, early 2000 memes. Sure.

But so I see him. I'm like, I think that's Mr. Jay. And then he was, I saw him stop and talk to somebody and I realized it was Christian Siriano. And I'm like, oh, fun, okay. He was there. They must know, you know, gay, fashion, whatever. They, same circles.

And then I watch as Jay. is pulling up photos on his phone and for like 10 minutes is swiping through showing photos to Christian Siriano I'm just like... Of what? Like vacation or where he just was. It looked like a pool. I was like a little too far to see like the photos.

But I'm like, oh my God. But you're really watching the exchange. I'm like, oh my God, Christian Siriano is trapped right now. And then I see who walks up Margaret Joseph's... What? And her BFF Lexi, they have the same haircut. Sweetheart. Sweetheart.

Yes, actually served her at Asbury Hill House. No, she's the best. I worked with her at Brabacom. But so they walk up. They are seated right next to Jay, right in front of Christian Sierra. So they're just sitting there, minding their business while Jay is still talking at Christian Siriano, and I do mean talking at. And then I watch as...

Talk about Blabberhead. Jonathan Chevin, aka food god. Former Kardashian hangar on. He is like walking up the road and has to like scooch past Christian Seriano to get to his seat, which I just love. the thing of like, oh, let me just,

let me just, get past job, and then he sits down next to Lexie Wood and her curly-haired sister. No, oh my God. We talk about

random influencer people invited to an event for no reason. No, there's more because then I look up and I'm like, who's the lady

with the short hair? Patty Lepone. She was there. What is this cruel people? And then I'm like, oh, she's talking to this man in sunglasses. Michael Coors.

Oh, we need to edit a picture like of a Jesus's table with like all these people. And then I see Dorinda coming up the aisle. Oh my God. She stopped and said hello to Margaret like a frosty blonde housewife moment. I think Jackie Goldschner was also there and for a second I was like oh that's interesting I didn't see her talking to Margaret and I'm like oh because Jackie is Teresa's BFF now. Cursed. Cursed Cursed Roe in general. Yeah. It was group of people.

They never, I was interviewing on the red, well, I was interviewing on the red carpet, but no, I thought they were going to come down and I could get a chance to say hi, but only the stars of the show. Will loves to see Margaret in public and go, I served you once in a restaurant in New Jersey. I'd watch him do it

three times. And you know what she would say to that? She'd be like, oh my God, baby doll, doll, it's so good to see you again. When I posted a photo of her at another part of event, she comments and he goes, great seeing you again. And I'm like, everyone thinks that we're We're really good friends.

Margaret Joseph at a brand event hates to see Will coming to say, I served you in iced tea once at a restaurant on the beach in New Jersey when I was working there in COVID. It was during COVID and she came in and I was just like, put her in my section, please. And she was there with Lexi and they weren't filming, which I would have been like, get me in. I'll sit with you and Gab. I do love the Margaret and Lexi combo because Margaret has her little jersey accent and then Lexi is like half British. Yeah. And so Margaret's like, oh, have you been dear?

to see you and then Lexi's like, are you going to the after party? I haven't seen you in forever. Yeah. They're kind of like a hoot. Do you want to drink a suiare? I just love, they're a fun little duo. And if Marge Sr. is with them, forget it. Oh, my God.

I would love to watch a show just on three of them. I would love to watch Marge Sr. and Patty Lepone have a conversation. Yes, that would be riveting. Let's get on that Real House of New Jersey. I just want Patty Lepone to like meet Lexie Wood actually, the other Lexi that's there as well, who I want to see them interact. I don't think Patty Lippon will get Lexie Wood at all. No, of course not.

Patty Lopone, like, what's a summer house? I don't think Patty Lepone would like watch a Bravo show. No. No. I think that she would respect. She'd be like, I like people with talent. Sing a song. Do a monologue.

I feel like she sees those rehearsals and events. She's like, not one of those. Like she doesn't understand why they're famous or how famous they are. Right. Patty Lepone sees Ramona singer and it's like, Like, I gotta go home. We used to be a proper country. I have three Tonys.

She probably thinks it's Madonna's like older sister. She's like, get that all the way from me. The older sister. Madonna and Ramona are probably about the same age. Oh, you think? No. Yeah. Not with that face tuning that she's been doing.

I know Ramona is being a face tune culprit. I will say though, Ramona, I hope to be looking as good as her at my age. She'd be looking good, working out. The thing is, like, she looks good for. for her age, she doesn't look like she's 35. And that's the problem with you look, you look great girl. Yeah, like, own your life. We watched

Summerhouse, so I want to talk about Summerhouse Oh my God, please. A little bit. Wait, let me get my notes. So, this week's episode is like the downfall of Lexi and Jesse. It's really over for them. Saw that coming. I kind of like that this was a more, like, the last episode was like building up to that

the, like the, in rising action. The season's been a little slow for me, personally, I think that this is a really good episode. Yeah. With Jesse and Lexi, like, was there ever a moment where you were, like, rooting for them as a couple? Or is it kind of, like, nothing good can grow from this? I don't think I was ever rooting for them as a couple because it seemed so crazy at

first with Jesse just immediately. Like, it seemed like he was love bombing her from episode one. So it was kind of, like, already doomed from the start. Like, it was like, there was no hope there because of the setup of it all. I did not like the way they edited her, like in the very beginning where, you know when they try to make you like root for the new character like understand the new characters like trauma? Yeah.

Her thing was like and I was bullied as a kid because I was modeling. Lost me. Oh yeah. Oh boo freaking who. You were bullied because you were a model at 13. Prime me a river. She's like it was so hard when I would be in Paris and then I would come back to school and people were like why were you in Paris?

And they didn't think it was cool at all. Well she would also be like I actually have been through hard things. Like I went to Paris and navigated that way. travel around Paris. I was like, yeah. This is your hardship in life. She clearly hasn't had that kind of childhood experiences that we all had that were traumatizing.

Speak for yourself. I personally didn't have to like be a model and get bullied. I do think it's funny though. It's like there is this kind of like archetype where I feel like every famous person or every like model or beautiful whatever has like sort of a similar broad anecdote of like I was I was an outcast I was I wasn't popular yeah I was bullied and I'm not saying that like none of those stories are valid because I'm I'm sure like I'm sure somebody pretty was bullied once once but like I feel like it becomes a thing where it's like you feel like it's it's

like illegal to acknowledge that you were popular and pretty in high school they're like no no no no no I was gangly I was skinny but I'm too skinny I'm tired of people and this is all people celebrities writing memoirs for reality of people being like, I was bullied as a child. We were all bullied girls. Where are the bullies? Stand up and say, yeah, I was a fucking bully.

No, I want to hear who was the bully, right? Like, instead of the bully, let's change in there. No one's ever the bully. All we hear is I was bully as a kid. You and everyone else, bitch, you're not special. I will stand up and say that I talked a lot of shit in middle school. I believe that, Dylan. I was a shitter in middle school as well.

So I was bullied. I was bullied. I was bullied. Oh my God. No, but like, I will own shit-talking. I don't think I was a bully. No. I was bullied.

And I can, I'm still friends with my high school friends and one of them was a bully and we all talk about how she was a huge bully. And she laughs and is like, yeah, I was a bully. Oh, that's, that's, let's get around. DeLora. She's my friend, I can say it. She knows she was a bully. I always, because kids are mean.

Yeah. I always think like describing somebody as nice is kind of like the most boring thing you can say about them. And I'm like, yeah, like, I don't, I don't think I'm like the nicest person. I'm like, I'm like warm. I can be friendly, but like, I'm not like. But that's where I. felt like the thing with Lexi where she was like on the phone with her mom and sister, I'm

guessing, on the floor. And she's like, but he told me he loved me. Girl, have you never spoken to a man ever? Yeah. Like, men notoriously say shit they don't mean. She's all the time. She's young. So like we had also were. How old was she? She's 23. Oh, she's 26. She's like 36. She's like 36 and he's like 31. Right. I feel like, unfortunately, she seems more immature to me. respectfully. I don't mean that meanly. I just mean it like this whole bit kind of makes sense. Like it is to me truthful, but it's like... I don't think she's had men tell her like misleader before. I think men just like like like like her and stay with her and she dates them longer. I think she hasn't like been in the fuck boy dating scene. It kind of reminds me. She hasn't been on the Mon Talk dating scene.

I haven't watched The Bachelor in years, but like I feel like there was a thing where there would be these women that came on that were like between like 21 and 25 that were like a, um, that were like, I'm just so done with all of these, with all of these guys out there. You've been dating for five minutes. And I'm, I just want to, I want to find the one and I want to find that,

the, the, Mr. Wright. And I just feel like I've been through the ringer with dating and yada, yada, yada. And I'm like, I don't not believe you that you've had negative experiences with dating. Yeah.

Like, so has everyone. Yeah. And like you haven't, it's not like you've been at the, it's not like you're 40 years old and you're like, I've never connected with anyone. It's like,

keep, just keep. keep meeting people, keep going out. You don't need to like, you don't need to like settle and get married. I also feel like it's these are the prettiest people we've ever, like you see these gorgeous people. Like you're not going on and they're like, oh, you're ugly, get on camera. Like they're picking the pretty people. Like I would be honored if I was ever because I'm like, not that I'm like, oh my God. Oh, Will you're gorgeous. Thank you so much. But I feel like it's like your rare moment of me being nice to Will.

Very rare. But it's like a lot of these people are universally gorgeous. They're conventionally attracted. And they're conventionally attractive. So it's always rich to me when people are complaining about it. It's like, girl, like you've definitely had better experiences than just what we're seeing here. Like what I do. What was me is hard. What I do respect of her where she did better than me.

A man would have done that to me and then in front of people, embarrass me publicly in front of my friends. And then in private been like, I'm sorry. And I would have been like, okay. She was like, no, this was a line crossed. And she didn't, she didn't need to put up with it. But again, she's conventionally attractive. I'm sure there will be other. I would be like, what if there aren't others?

I know. Yeah, I did like that at the end of the episode when he came to her apartment. Yeah. And they were, I like that she stood by her guns and was kind of like, was kind of like, this either, we either are like really going to try again or this just isn't going to be a thing. And I don't think I have enough good evidence to really try again. So like, yeah, we're done.

I like that too. I think that's good. She's making a really, she's winning me over as a viewer because in the beginning, it felt like she was wishy-washy with the toe sucking. I mean, the amount of toe sucking, they should get that on like a... He's like, look, aside from the toe suck, I get it. I'm sorry. I'm only sorry and admit I was wrong for the toe sucking.

You got me there. It was a joke. Right, the amount of times I feel like Jesse has dug a hole for himself is just like a whole other area. And the Sierra thing is so... Oh, I was like, I said that I would have gotten with you last summer to make you feel better. Or like, I said that, you know... Crazy? He's walking around after.

saying that freely as a free man. That's an insane thing to say. Well, and the way that he always talks or like tries to apologize, he's like, or saying these things. He's smiling. Like, he's almost like, he's kind of like, um, what's that American psycho? Yeah, American psycho movie where he's smiling saying something sincere and you're like, you're a psychopath. Yeah. Speaking of, uh, he's also like Lexi where women haven't checked him before like that. So I think Lexi having boundaries with him, he's like, wait, normally they're forgiving me. Yeah. He's like, I thought I was just gonna fall in love. Yeah. Yeah. Or it's like, maybe we're not meant to be. be together if this is how you're acting after an argument.

Like that's crazy behavior. But I've changed everything about it. Yeah, right. And everything's a joke. I was going to say, what did you take a joke? That was pretty good, right? That was pretty good impression.

I was going to say some advice I have for Jesse Solomon where he made a huge misstep is where he went to the girls and was like, yeah, I have a problem because you guys told her something I told you. Jesse Solomon, women talk, bro. These women aren't your bros. Yes. You told them what you were saying about another woman and you're on a reality TV show, obviously they're going to tell her. Right.

It's like a double-decker. That's your fault because it's like you're talking to these girls who obviously. Yeah. And it's like there's a producer that's like, hey, Sierra, go talk to Lexi. Yeah. Well, and also I think it's rich that he thinks that he can almost try to spin. Like he's saying the things that the girls are saying are not what he said. But it's like, girl, you are saying.

It's on camera. It's on camera. Like, how do you not sit there and go, wait, that is what I said. I should at least try to fix this. You know what I mean? Or apologize. I do just want to give a little word of encouragement to Lexi

because she's like, they're making me look like a psycho. Nobody thinks you're a psycho. We think you need to like grow up a little. I think also like when you are on those shows for a long time, when new people come into the house, like if you're a page or a Lindsay, new people come on the show and like there is a bit of an ulterior mode of like

in the back of your moment of like in the back. mind like you're not just here to be my friend you are here to be on TV. So I think their perspective was like you came here and immediately got this guy. So yeah, we didn't get to connect with you because you were with him all the time. And also like I don't know, there's a lack of trust that you have to build with the girls if you want to be with the girls. Is that makes sense? Be a girl's girl's first. I think it's good for Lexi that it feels like she is friends with the girls now. Yeah. Yeah. That's why that's where Imroll is really lacking this season as the other new person is like I don't know anything about you except for you have three sums. And it doesn't be like you've four. You. is doing too much. A bond with anyone? He's just trying to have more sex. Like, he's forming bonds, but not with the house. Like, he's having sex with more people than, and I think he makes it worse. He's not going to get ass back. My favorite thing

from, not my favorite thing, but something that was, like, funny when working on shows, because I worked on a lot of dating shows, not just like Bravo Universe, but whenever talent puts a shirt over the camera, I love being the person in the control and that just, like, wiggling the joystick of the camera, be like, shake the

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Watch only on Prime. I want to get to a new segment that we're doing on the show. Love it. This is our new segment, that's my opinion, inspired by the legendary Tamara Judge, where we hold space for our strongest reality TV hot takes and personal beliefs. We're each going to have 60 seconds to get activated about our opinions. And you can let us know in the comments whether you agree or whether we're alone on scary island with no friends.

Now, who wants to go first and be the inaugural opinion shareer? Oh, my God. You go first. You had a good one. No, I mean, I guess I could, but I was like, should you, Dylan? You're the... No, I'm going last. Oh, gosh, okay.

And that's where he is our boss. He's like, Vito. Okay, well, you have 60 seconds. What's your opinion? Okay, so timer starts. Oh, thank you, producer Joe. I'm freaking out. Okay, I think the work as sisters should have had more seasons on the Summer House.

I know that's crazy. I know they're crazy. And the way that we leave them in Summer House early on, it's like good riddance. But I thought they were really great reality. TV gone too soon. I would have loved to see more of where their relationships intersect with Lindsay Hubbard or with Carl. I would have kind of loved to see more back and forth between Lauren and Carl. I also really thought they had a fun relationship with each other, like seeing twins on TV. They're identical. They could have done so many funny bits switching places. They could have,

there could have been a lot that made them more reality TV stars. And I really like the original cast that was on that show. And I would have loved to see more of them go. further on, like even Stephen as their relationship together. So I really loved the work as sisters. I thought they were funny. We're at 54 seconds. And I think I'm just going to leave it like that. That's your opinion.

That's my opinion. Interesting. I like that you're kind of coming at it from like a twins rights angle. As a multiple. As a quadruple. Yeah. I should have said that in the six seconds. It was like justice for the twins.

Justice for the twins. I'm a quadruplet. So that's also partially motivated for that. Twins rights. Justice for. Justice for multiples on TV. Kate and eight plus eight. I mean,

John and Kate plus eight. Okay. You had your minute. You had your minute. You could have said that. Okay, Lenny. Not to put you in the hot seat. My opinion is this.

Oh, wait, ready? Go. My opinion is this. Stop sending people on cast trips to tropical places the same four. I'm tired of the Bahamas. I'm tired of Mexico. I'm tired of the Cabo and the Cancun. And I'm not just saying that as a producer.

who was tired of going to the same fucking place over and over again. I would have loved instead to be paid on a trip to go to Paris, Madrid. I want to see Doreet in, where was she? Paris talking in an accent, or is that right, French? Sure. I'm tired of the same beach, the same scenes, the same horses riding through the ocean. Take me somewhere interesting.

Take me somewhere cold. What happened to Ultimate Girls' trip winter? Switzerland was in the works at a point in time. I would like to go somewhere interesting. We're tired of seeing the same beach scenes and beach lovers over and over again. And that's my opinion. Okay. That was under 60 seconds.

Good job. It was like 55. You got your point in there. Oh, Switzerland girls trip. Yeah. Was that not public knowledge? I don't know. We can bleep it.

We can believe in Switzerland. Oh, you can say it. Whatever. Say it. Okay. I like that, though. I like that. More locales, more differentiation.

And that's not just for housewives. Like the love is blind people. and like the Netflix girls just be going Cabo, Tulum. Well, you spent like a month in Toulomb on one show, right? I could write a whole lot. That's my opinion about how I hate Toulomb. If you have a wedding or a Bachelorette there, I'm not coming, honey. Don't invite me.

Overpriced and terrible. Okay. My opinion is that I still fucking love it whenever celebrities talk about watching Bravo or Real Housewives. I've seen people with the take that this is, they're trying to get attention, they're pandering to the masses that they're like, oh, I'm going to say I watch Housewives and get a bunch of clicks and people are going to like me. I don't care. I like it.

I saw Florence Pugh on the Thunderbolts red carpet stopping Garcel and her son Oliver because she wanted a picture with them. She watches Housewives. She loves them. That's all I care about. Give me every clip of Seth Rogan talking about Sheena from Vanderpump Rules. Give me every clip of Ben Stiller talking about why Kyle texting P.K. was wrong. I want every celebrity. I want Sarah Paulson channeling Meredith Marks on Broadway.

I want the White Lotus cast watching Southern Charm. It still gives me a thrill every single time. And if you think it's tired, that's okay. But I don't care. And also celebrities come on the show and talk about Housewives to me. That's my opinion. Yes. That was the best one.

That was really good. Thank you. And John Hand saying thoughts and brothers to Greg and Paige. And also Rihanna, I love when you hear Rihanna secretly DMing stars or like on Ask Andy from Watch What Happens Live, Mary Cosby texted Andy and said that Rihanna DM'd her. Rihanna loved to DM Heather. My phone background on my work phone is John Oliver in his Brooks Mark's track suit.

I was not a track suit. But did you get it for free? I'm sure John Oliver did. I did. Oh, yeah. I worked on that. I didn't. You're like, I'm not that bad with money.

But I did donate it when I moved. Sorry, Brooks. Oh, wow. Well, thank you guys for sure. sharing all your opinions. On that note. Thank you for sharing all your opinions, not just your chosen opinions, but opinions about lots of things.

This was so fun. If people want to hear more opinions from you guys, I think there's a place for that. Can you talk about blabbermouts and where to find it? If you want to hear and see more of this, you can watch us on Blabermouts, which is on the Betches YouTube and Spotify and where you get your podcasts. And you can see us post about the Blabber Mouts and ourselves on the Betches main account. Yes. And then on our personal accounts at Willow Sir.

At Alenis Abrakis. And new episodes of Blabberbts every Saturday. Every Saturday. Every Saturday. And speak for yourself. Well, after this. And you can watch that on the Betches YouTube. And now you can watch mention it all on the Always On YouTube channel. So if you've been listening to this episode, you could have been watching it. It sucks to suck. No, but thank you. We love you all so much. Thank you everyone for listening, watching. Don't forget to rate review, subscribe. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Bye. Mention It All is produced by me, Dylan Hafer, and Joe Diomore. Edited by Julia Stanton and Grace Hernandez-Johnson.

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