Mention It All - If It Ain’t Brock Don’t Fix It (Below Deck, Vanderpump Rules)

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

Bari is joined by Betches’ own Taylor Jackson to talk about this week’s episodes of Below Deck and Vanderpump Rules. They start with Captain Lee’s return, Jake and Rayna making out, and Heather dating a charter guest. Then they dive into VPR, including Scheana’s cringey vlog with Brock and James questioning Raquel’s nose job. Finally, they discuss the Brock situation and debate whether or not it was appropriate for Lala to bring it up in front of the entire group. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betch's media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention it all. A Bravo by Betcha's podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, boo? And Barry Rosenfeld.

I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep week. Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Mentional podcast. I'm Barry Rosenfeld, and I'm joined with another guest this week, Ms. Taylor Jackson. Hello. You know, Barry, I'm kind of offended that you said another guest, not like. like our favorite guest co-host. So let's just rewind that and go again.

You're going to be even more offended because when Chris was on this week, I did say he even called me out. I said a very, very, very, very special guest. So I basically gave you no intro. Okay, guys. So I'm a nobody. No, I'm just kidding. I work at Betches.

Yeah. Yeah. I work at Betches. I do the social media. Okay. I used to have a podcast about sex and things, but no longer. So I love Bravo and I was so ecstatic when Barry chose me to be her guest. You were chosen.

Wait, so if anyone does need sex advice, though, feel free to DM. DM me? Yeah. Girl, I got a boyfriend now. I don't know. I don't have any advice for anybody. Oh, you know, okay. All right.

It's fine. We can figure that out. But anyway. The episodes are still on Apple if you guys are in her. So go on. Let me finish. All right. Just for a blast from the past. It was fun for it was fun while it lasted. See what I did there. And while it lasted. That was good. Okay. Today we're talking about below deck and Vanza Pump Rules.

But it's funny because more news broke this week, which I think is very ironic with the timing of this Vander Pump Rules episode regarding Lala and Randall. because last week when Dylan and I talked about it, like all the details weren't out yet, so we had no idea what was going on. But this week, they split. Like, they called off their engagement. It's like legitimate now. Yeah.

And apparently he's having financial issues, which are not new. Like we, we like knew about this. Exactly. Can I say something, though? Like you said the time. You can mention it all here. I'll mention it all here.

I'll mention it all. The timing, like, the devil works hard, but Bravo producers work harder because now, like, he's in financial trouble. In this episode, he lost $5,000 of poker night. And they're split. And meanwhile, Lala's, like, coming for Sheena and Brock's, like, neck and their relationship. It's like, the calculation. Yeah. Is immaculate. It is very impressive to me. It happened another time, another, like, recently with Bravo. I cannot remember, like, the example of what happened recently. But it has. happened like that again. And Brock and Sheena were on Watched Happens Live last night. And Andy even brought it up. He was like, uh, it was, that's a little weird, right? And you know, did you watch Watch Happens Live last night? I didn't know. Okay.

So it was a little awkward because he was obviously asking the questions that needed to be asked, but there was like a weird chemistry. And like he was trying to dig and get questions about their relationship and like what Sheena knows about like Lala and Randall and like nothing was said. And I cannot, if I can't keep up with. any friendship in the world. It's that. Those of Vanderpump rules.

I have no idea who's friends in real life. Who's fighting? Who's not? But we'll get into it. Let's talk about below deck first because it was, it was good. It was good. We have Captain Sean, who is still a bit of a micromanager. What?

And I, Captain Sean. Okay. This is the, I couldn't put my finger on who he reminded me of. And then I was like, he, well, first of all, I'm a big Shrek person if people don't know that I'm weird but anyway he reminds me in the shrek four rumple still skim he just is he he he is never invited to the party but he always shows up he is always there and he's always got something to say but nobody really gives us shit what he has to say okay and you know who he reminds me of who who okay you know in billy madison the other guy who like cackle like who he makes

fun of like cackling like i feel like every time they see john he's always like yeah yes we He literally, and then, and then I was like, who does he remind me in real life? Because I know this man. Like, I know this personality. And it's literally the guy that got invited to the party. And he's there and he's super nice. But he's always trying to interject himself into every conversation and trying to,

you know, trying to make buddy buddy with everybody. And people are like, leave me alone. Like him with the charter guests. Like, he was like, hey, guys. Like, this is a seashell I got for you guys. And then they're like, please leave me alone. I'm just trying to like get drunk and get fucked up. And then he was like, he was.

like girls they're all in the hot tub and he's like girls i got some bad news for you and they're like what like is the ship sinking like what the fuck he's like i can't have dinner with you and they're just like oh and they're only invited you because we had to i know wait i'm so glad you brought up the seashell though because member in the beginning of the episode when he had them all like taking off the price was that a shell he gave the guess yes yes and he literally goes i found this just for you. Meanwhile, 20 minutes before he goes, Eddie, Eddie, can you get the seashell in the bag in my room and make sure you take all the price tags off? Eddie's like, it's in the Michael's bag. It's in the T.J. Mag's bag. Buy one, get one. He is, like we were comparing him because Sandy is a

micromanager, whatever. She gets a job dumb. This guy's a micromanager in a sense where like he wants to be the one in charge. But like, the guests aren't going to be like, like, the guests aren't going to be like, oh, gold star captain, Sean. You know what? You're right. The table should be facing long ways as opposed to like back and forth. He was still, he still had the guest 50 minutes late to the beach picnic. I want to point that out. He did. The beach picnic never goes as planned. Also, did you notice like, why was he present at the beach picnic? Has a captain ever gotten off the boat for a beach picnic? I don't know, but like he shouldn't ever get off the boat. I know. Wait. What's happening? What's happening?

happening with the boat. Who's driving the boat? I don't know, but the good news is boat daddy's back. Captain Lee is back. And I don't want to be the first one to say it, but I will. Okay. There was a little sexual attraction to Captain Lee's presence this episode. From you. From me. Okay. I was like, you would be the first one to say that, though, just letting you know. I had to write down one of his, I don't even know what you call them. His Captain Lee isms quotes. Yes, he said, I'd rather sandpaper a tiger's ass in a phone booth than miss this charter. How does one even come up with that?

What does that mean? It sounds, this is what, you know, like the game Scrabble when you pick out letters, it seems like before he is being interviewed, he has a bunch of random words. He's got nouns, adjectives, pulls it out of a hat and says, let's make a sentence out of these words. Like, literally. Okay. Andy Cohen just came out with a book. like this isn't a I'm not promoting it I actually just really want it it's like 365 different quotes from women like that he knows and loves whatever captain lee should have a book of these because that is the most perfect coffee table book I can think of but yeah I'm just manifesting that yeah so but wait go back to the quote really quick say that again his I'd rather sandpaper tiger's ass in a phone booth than miss this charter

I don't know what to say about it. Like our tigers is ass, Tiger's ass is rough that need to be sandpaper. And why in a phone booth? Why in a phone booth? Because you're going to be stuck in there like with them. Like is and you can't get like or I don't know. I feel like you don't take more than this episode to decipher like break that down what

that means. He said something else and I honestly didn't even write it down because I was like I don't have time. But you know what? I think it was. Like, you know, when you say you pull cat's tail and they get mad, he took that to the next level. And, like, sandpaper the tiger's ass in a foam booth. So the cat's mad.

I get it. We, it sucks that he came back after Halloween, though, because he would have, he would be the perfect person to dress up as in that. What is, like, what, like, he is, he is man meat. That's what Captain Lee is. He is man meat. And his new look, remember they, Rachel commented on the new look. look, I'm loving it.

It's giving me like, it's giving me like sexy priest vibes, if you know what I mean, but like almost like R&B. He's like a Gianni Versace, but like, not comparing Captain Lee to Versace. Boat captain.

The gold jewelry. The pendants. The rings. The glass. Yeah, like, oh my God. And he had like a little black turtleneck underneath his shirt. I was like loving this glow up for him.

Oh, guys. Sorry. We're getting a little. track here. Just so attracted to Katzenly. Not much other than boat daddy being back. Like not much really happened this. No.

Episode other than we find out there's not as much tension with Frasier and Heather, which I'm like kind of hoping there will be. He kind of sits her down on a drunk night and it's like, listen, babe, this is what I need from you. This is what you're asking me to do. And what I can't do, yada, yada. And of course, she's one of those. well you can be perfect but if there's one trash bag like that just fucked up the whole thing and it's like

really that wasn't the point that wasn't the point of this conversation exactly but we did find out she has a boyfriend who is h harder guest i'm just saying yeah it is i need to know more details about that like i am thinking that if i was maybe working on a boat i would be in that situation as well. You would be. You literally would be. You'd be like slipping instead of like giving them their like tenderloin, you'd be like here's my number like underneath the plate. Okay. Yeah. But there we have seen this is actually funny. This episode was on yesterday during the day of a charter, a deck hand getting fired or getting a third warning, Danny, for giving like a note to a charter guest. Yeah. And then she did give someone her number to like give to him but like so i want to know what went down with heather and how

that happened yeah because how like some people got caught some people don't but now this has become a real relationship so i'm like wait i need to see that but also as a charter guest could you ever like date someone that's on a their job is on a boat like i couldn't you know what i mean like because they they're never home i don't know well long distance relationships though work for people in that sense because like they like having their personal space and their alone time. And that's true. I've always said like, oh, I can't do that because I need to know what like my boyfriend be doing at all times.

Yeah. Well, you would know what he'd be doing. You're right. Because he's on a boat. Charter guests. He'd be doing charter guests. Yeah, he'd be doing. Speaking of how you how you find them is how you lose them.

It's the most iconic. Wow. Quote slash advice. Barry, that got deep. I thought I was just coming on here to recap some bravo shit. No, it's also a sex podcast. We're turning it into a combined thing. So if you start dating someone that way,

that's how you're going to start dating someone else. Okay? You heard it here first. Well, speaking of that, we have some more drama. Jake and Raina making out. We love it. We love to see it. Then she gets a text from her boy.

That's the last. scene of the episode. It is the last scene of she said she met him in Mexico. Like it's someone she's talking to. That's what she said. Yeah. So, oh my God, I just sounded like that TikTok noise. That's what she said. That's what she said. Um, so we don't know if it's her boyfriend because like if it's not do you girl, who cares? That's what I mean. But also like as again, this is the typical Bravo below deck cliffhanger because the producers the entire this entire episode, no mention and Raina's boyfriend. Nothing of that.

They were just like this sexual tension. They have a drunk makeout at the bar, which we all love. Last scene of the episode. I love their little text that pop up. It was like missing you right now. Dink. Meanwhile, she's like, and then she's like, fuck, I fucked up. She's like, I forgot about him.

I forgot about him. And the thing is with this, it's like, remember when Eddie seasons and seasons ago cheated on his girlfriend with, I forget her name, redhead, curly hair, whatever. But it's like, you can just. You can deny, deny, deny to everybody. This is being recorded. You're going to see in about six months. So they sometimes get so used to the fact that the cameras are there that it's not, it's,

it's good for us, bad for them. But I, every time I watch an episode or season on episode of Below Deck, I'm like, who would I hook up with if I was on this cast? And I love Raina for that because she literally came on. She was like, I'm looking for who the, who's the hottest one? because he's mine. Like literally I think that was like her opening, um, little interview. Yeah. Next week's, whatever, highlights, premiere, whatever, whatever we call them is, looks pretty bad. Pretty good. Like, like, good episode. Like bad. Like bad. Like bad for the

guests. Like a little bit of, um, feud between a couple that the, they have to like be separated. And Captain Lee is at the dinner. And it looks really intense. And those are the times where I wonder, like why was this fit why was this chosen to be put I know I know and it's the dinner where captain Lee and he goes to cuts him in the interview and he goes idiots that one I think it's that one and like I just love that because he's just blatantly calling these charter guests who are paying thousands of thousands of dollars idiots on bravo and like I love love that oh my god he said my favorite quote this episode that he always does every season cheer up buttercup yes yes he did say that I just love him so much.

She's so good. Imagine, okay, you know, like people have live-left love all over their homes, whatever. Yeah. Kind of judging you. Imagine he has his own quotes, like on wall decals, like in his living room. Okay, shop. Okay, shop, betches. Okay.

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Work your magic. All right, let's talk about Vanderpump rules because there was some drama. Some lots of drama. To me, like before we start, I think every episode is like recycled drama. They're just really pulling. They're pulling at strings here. But yeah, let's get into it. Yeah.

I mean, we, we're kind of thinking that, discussing that, like how you're going to revamp an entire show with a, that's been on for so long, but with a new cast. And that seems to be like what's kind of happening, but whatever. So we start off with Sheena and Brock vlogging and YouTubeing because she admits that her she doesn't have a good track record for it's not helping her current situation because we've all seen her past and she says she wants people to see this side of their relationship and I was like baking yeah and she's like this vlogging welcome back to my channel and I like cringe at that

that was bad yeah and it's like to me it's like you shouldn't have to prove to the world that you're in a help like you're in a good relationship and that your partner is a nice person or like a good person and that it's like kind of a red flag to me it's like oh what i'm going to make him do i'm going make him bake an apple pie and for like 50 000 people to watch it on youtube and no he is a good guy because he can make a fucking bangin apple pie i just don't i'm not seeing red flag how about when she he like he like continue talking and she's like babe i turned the camera off and he was like i was like wait so it wasn't an act then like you're just how all right we're done Like you can you can turn it off now whatever.

Yeah. But like I get it. I do get it because like you're, I agree with you. You don't have to prove to anyone. But at the same time, like, I guess you want to because if you are in the public eye and people are judge it, whatever. Yeah. She's been through enough. I feel like she is a lover, like a massive lover.

She is. Well, we've known that since season one. Yeah. But we'll get more into that as we as we move on. But I also want to talk about Raquel's. nose job in this whole situation. Because again, producer, enter producers. They showed her like doing her exercises, but saying, I thought that was her nose.

I was like, wait, she thought like that by her doing that, that's the nose job that she got. But those are just the exercises because she said two weeks after she got her cast off, James bumped it. Whatever. And James didn't want to tell anybody. Yeah, and they're contemplating telling Lisa. Why is Lisa always like the... We will get into that because she comes into play. They're contemplating telling Lisa how her nose moved.

I don't get it. Why? But, okay, so Raquel is such a great person for James, which we obviously know. She brings him to boxing, which is like the best anger workout, like that you could do. But James is getting more angry because Raquel is actually better at boxing. than he is. Anyway, besides the way. So it's like counterproductive here.

He is like, I was like, shit, this is not a good look for James. Like he is concerned that if Raquel gets her nose fixed, she's basically going to look ugly and not up to his standards. Yep. And that is exactly my thought too. And Raquel's like, listen, I, I, she is beautiful. She didn't need a nose job, but hey, everyone has their insecurities, like, whatever. Yeah.

But like she's so sweet. could do no wrong. And when he said that, like, it's taking steps backwards for me. Yeah. Because he's like, then why? You're engaged. What are you going to, if you don't like the way her nose looks, you're going to be like. Also, do you think she's just going to look like Shrek automatically after she gets this? Like, why are you assuming the worst? Like, what's, what is she going to look like? But he said, like, physical attraction is so important to him, which like, I, okay, first of all, I get. I do get that. But that isn't the make or break of the relationship. Like you should be proud of your partner for whatever they look like, especially if you've been with them for like this isn't a new relationship.

Exactly. And in my opinion, and I think in a lot of like a lot of people think this, she's a 10. He five, six. So he's actually really, I think are you talking about he's a five slash six or he's five foot six? No, he might be five six or five four. He's a five, teetering for five six on the. one through 10. But baby girl, you're a five, six. You landed at 10. Yeah. Let her get her nose done. Here's the thing. My problem. Raquel is such,

she's working on becoming a more secure person. So if that's what she wants and needs to do to make herself feel better, shut the fuck up, James. Literally shut up. She has stood by you and all your idiot choices. Somehow, some way, by the grace of God, green earth, whatever the same. is. Captain Lee? What is it? Captain Lee? I got Captain Lee in me now, you know. It's a little bit of captainly. But no, seriously, like, she's doing this because she feels insecure. And then when he comes and says, like, oh, what if you look ugly? I'm not, physical attraction is really important to me. And I'm going to keep telling you that. It's like, oh, fuck. Now, I'm going to keep telling you that.

Yeah. And now it's like, now I'm even more insecure about something I'm trying to feel more insecure about. You know what I mean? It's like a mess. So we'll see. I feel bad. And also her nose is messed up. It's not, but technically mess up because of him. Exactly, because he bumped it. Or how about Lisa when they like did a flashback of her or of Raquel telling Lisa? Like I had a nose job. And Lisa's like, oh, why?

Like you didn't need that. And then Lisa goes, I guess I can see it's a little crooked. I'm like, Lisa, shut the fuck up. I can't. Well, speaking of Lisa also, I don't know how you felt about this scene where Tom, because her and Schwartz have like this amazing relationship. I love it. I like want them together. And she like is always there for them. So she was like his his loan fell through, blah, blah, blah. He doesn't have the money. And she's like kind of do you want me to I will give you the money. She's like double enough like I'll give you the money. And he's like he actually stood on his own two feet and was like I'm not giving up my share. Like I won't do that. But then in my head, I'm always like, why did they not go with her like the first? I just don't. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't know those. details and I think that's what's missing.

What do you mean like the money details of going with her as a good? Yes. Like they did it with Tom Tom. I know because I feel like that was their first like get off their feet and now they want to be like this is our own thing which like Schwartz and Samy's God bless. She knows what she's doing. She does know what she's doing and like the thing is they probably don't want her to have ownership over this and especially Schwartz like he is he wants as we've seen with him

and Tom and Sanibals not Schwartz. I get them mixed up so many times. It's okay. But you know who I'm talking about. It's like the power dynamic there is just all screwed up. And I don't think Sanaval wants anyone above him. Absolutely. That is that is it.

As we've seen with the names. And we, today, because I know you hate the name and so do I and so does all of America. But when they were at the at the restaurant and the guy was like, did you decide on a name? And they said shorts and sand. Schwartz cream's like And he goes That sounds like a deli I'm like it does sound like a deli

When he said that I was like Oh my God Schwartz and Sandys Can get your pastrami sandwich and your pickle It's like with like Cats deli Like who uh Schwartz and Sandy's get Come get your roast beef sandwich extra mayo No cheese

Well Dylan and I were saying It sounded like a crab shack Like Schwartz and Sandy is Get your conch shells and like That's what it sounds like And they give you like your food on like paper plates Yes, I'm sorry. It's just this type of name.

Why, no matter when I say it, it's with an accent, like Schwartz and Sandys. Schwartz and Sandy's like rolls off the tongue. I don't know. I feel like we need to make a Betches trip, like as a company to all restaurants and bars in L.A. Yeah, like all of them. Well, I've been to Pumps, sir and Tom Tom. Very well, so then you're not coming or you can organize it. You choose.

I will organize the bar hop because they're literally right next to each other. So easy. And pump. Have you been to pump? I have been to pump. Have you been to Villa Rosa? As in Lisa's home? Oh, you're trying to test me now.

How about, like, did you see Brock go into Lisa's house? He was like a kid in a candy shop. He's like, they have swans. He's like, this is a villa. I'm like, yeah, no shit, it's called Villa Rosa. Like her house has a name. Yeah. Her house has a name.

Okay. Yeah, we will get to that dinner. First, we got to talk about. Poker Night and Girls Night. Yep. We get a, a cameo from Jesse Metcalf, what is so fucking random. I can't. He's like, oh, my good friend.

And, okay, I feel like you agree with me in the sense. Like, Randall is just like a goddamn chaperone. Like, why are all? No, he is. Is this how? It's so weird. He's like, hey, what's up, bro? And then I'm watch Happens live.

I didn't realize Sheena and Jesse Maccaf dated. What? And then Andy pointed out, we obviously noticed. Sheena has a great dating record. Like she did it. Like great. Well, great. Not so great.

But she high, high up people, whatever. So he referred to her as, he referred to him as the gardener on Desperate Housewives, which was amazing. Amazing. Amazing.

But yeah, it was funny how all the boys are, because I'm going to refer to them as boys. They are winning. And then Randall literally lost $5,000. I was like, oh my God. I know.

if you're having money problems gambling is not the best it's not the best there randall and like like you said like it's so funny to watch the dynamic but you could win and i was loving it for schwartz he was like and i liked when they did like the pause and how much they won shorts like he's just so cute i just i'm obsessed with him but yeah randall's like the the uncle that like the cool the uncle that thinks he's cool and invites all of like his nephew's over for poker night. And then to me, it's like, to me, I feel like he was like, okay, 100, I don't know how poker works. He's like, a hundred bucks, what is it called?

When you like put in 100 bucks to gamble or whatever. He's the uncle that gives everyone else the money to put in. And then he ends up losing it all. And also with like the pickleball, he ever, like, we're going to Uncle Randall's house to play pickleball. Like, it's too much. It's way too much. But so.

we have a girls night too. Lala brings up the situation again about Brock. And it's, now it's at the point because I was like, okay, like she, in the beginning,

I was like she's being a good friend. But then it's like almost now, even Brock said it last night, which I agreed with. It was genuine what she does. It was. But it's her delivery that is not helping. Exactly.

Why are you bringing up again? Raquel, Queen Raquel, like bringing a good friend, not messy. She's being a good friend going up to Sheena and telling her. And it's, I feel, I do feel, Sheena looks like she's going to break in these.

Break any second. Well, because whenever Lala, like, it's a performance. It's in front of an audience. It's loud. And like we said Raquel, like it was with Sheena inside, just the two of them, expressing her concerns. But Lala, it's like, this is the fifth time. You've done this in different, like, settings.

Yeah. Settings, but public settings. And it's getting a little bit, like, if I were Sheena, I would be like, please stop. Like it's like when, when you're in a conversation with a group of people

and someone brings up a story about you that's like embarrassing or it makes you feel uncomfortable and you're just sitting there like nudging them like stop please, you know? It's to the point though where she shouldn't have to be told to stop. The last episode you guys said,

okay, so can we be done talking about this? And I think maybe Lala took that as just during that lunch they were going to be done talking about it just for the next hour and a half. Yeah, like it doesn't make sense. So that was kind of all that really happened other than first of all, Charlie hasn't even been in what I haven't seen her in a while.

And then she comes, let's say, and the only thing that she was in it was she brought her own food. Hot sauce. Oh yeah. And she just kept saying hot sauce. Yeah. They were really into hot. I don't know.

That was a weird dynamic. Like that was bizarre. I also just think like the insertion of Charlie in this season is very random just because no one else is on it. And I think like I saw something, I think it was some sort of article and they're like how Vanderpump kind of avoided the conversation of like what happened. You know what I mean? Like what happened from last season to this scene?

Because it's a completely different show. There is no server. There's no servers. You know, it's not that anymore. Which Charlie just does feel random to me. I don't have much of opinion on her, but. I don't either. But the thing is last season, I didn't like the new people on last season.

I thought it was very weird. It was too much of a switch up, like really quick. Like, there was like, whoa. But then this season, it's too much not in. I want. to be in the rest. I want the restaurant aspect of the show. I want the alleyway. I want to see what goes on. What do you think Kristen is the only girl that can smoke and get drunk in the alleyway and cause drama? Hell no. Other people can. Hire me. Over here. Like, if I'm in that surre dress, let me just tell you,

those tips will be flying towards me. Flying. I'll be serving those goat cheese balls like it's nobody's fucking business. I will make pumpkinies like it's nobody's fucking business. I will make pumpkinies like it's Nobody's fucking business. I will be causing drama and chain smoking cigarettes in the alley of sir. Like, it's no one's fucking business. All new drinks are now at McDonald's with refreshers like the strawberry watermelon refresher. And the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba to crafted sodas like the Spriteberry blast with berry flavors and cold foam. Who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire?

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I'm tasting a new menu. The two drinks, like Tom and Tom were presenting two drinks. And this was so hysterical to be Barry. Because when Sanival did his drink and they was supposed to have smoke, it looked literally like like a puff like like, like, like out. of like a like a like you can barely see it well it's like when your breath is when you see your breath in cold water like cold water cold weather you're like yeah it was like and he was like a little puff um which that might have just been a a flop because let's be sandable on those what he's doing but it did make me so happy me too that lisa chose schwartz's drink and not sandibals I was like one win for the world, everyone. She goes so funny.

And he like looked like he was going to cry. He was like had to go excuse himself. He was like, he constantly looks like he's going to cry. Yeah. Well, that's something. I don't know. I don't know.

Apparently he doesn't shave his forehead anymore. That's what Ariana said. Wait, he used to, whatever. I'm not even getting into that. I didn't know. He shaved his forehead. Yes. Oh my God.

It makes the makeup go on better and smoother. I'm sick. Okay, so this is where Brock and Lisa are first meeting And he didn't get he didn't waste a second Both feet were not even in the front door When he was like Lisa can I have a word with you And by that I thought he meant like private And then he just like started speaking and I was like

Oh my God, oh my God he's like I was like Is he nervous someone like pull him away And then it gave me Erica Jane And then he was in a car accident The car flows at his arms He was like oh hi Lisa yeah I haven't seen my kids in four years I have a domestic violence. I'm like, bro, bro, bro, bro.

Let's take it back a second. He, they did go inside. They did like move. It was a lot for everyone to like be listening to. But for sure. Okay. So that he, he told his entire story to Lisa, which I liked the honesty. I was like, okay, he's clearing the air.

He knows that this is a queen and everyone needs to share their life story with her in order for her to judge you. Because that's the, that's the grasp she has on everyone. Yeah. Yeah. But part of me was like, I don't know about this story.

It was a lot. I think that's such a heavy conversation where again, this is the situation where I think the cast and the show has put Sheena and Brock in of proving themselves that they are and like they are good.

And I feel like he was like, if Lisa knows my story, like, you know, I'm in the clear type of thing. just because, as you said, she has such a tight grip on everybody. But it was one of those things where I was literally like on my phone, but I was watching. And as soon as he started telling her, I was like, that just happened so quick. There was no lead time.

Yeah. There was details that we've known. Like he obviously did admit to slapping his partner. Okay. And but the timeline didn't work out. And that's even last night, Andy kept asking him, like, it still doesn't make sense of. And again, I don't care. It's none of my, like, I actually truly don't care.

Like, I'm just saying, if you're putting it out there, like, people are going to question, like, the timing of the restraining order, when you can't see, when you didn't see your kids, that has nothing to do with it. The restraining order wasn't even because he slapped, like, something's missing. Yeah. And the part I didn't like at this dinner was that Lala keeps. Again. That's why I'm saying with the, yes. Okay. So she brought it up again.

but she keeps saying it like a dig like you haven't seen your kids in for that is getting to me it's like now shut the fuck up yeah because just like when she gets mad that Tom brings up Brandel well you're bringing up that Brock hasn't seen his children in four years it's basically the same you know what I mean like yeah and as as you said it's literally it's a performance like she's in it's public it did not need to be at this dinner in front of Lisa too it just it's messy to me the way that sheena and Brock, but more Sheena held her composure throughout this.

Oh my God. I was like good for you, Sheena. Seriously, good for you because if that were, I would have flipped, Donna Turrice, I would have flipped the table. I would have, she would have, like, it would have ended right there. But it's just so hurt. Like, it's so hurtful, it seems. And I don't know at that point when she keeps going, like what she's trying to do.

And then she gets up and cry and leaves. And then she says again, like she feels bad. which I get, but it's like what's your goal? Like just exactly. What is your goal? Yeah. Like we are talking about I don't know the like the friendship between Sheena and Lana is up and down, up and down.

So it's like it's not like your Sheena's sister or have been there by her side. Like you guys haven't been besties like forever. But like you're inserting yourself into a relationship that quite honestly doesn't have much to do with you. I know you're concerned for your friend and I get that. But at a point you're coming at it as a dig. where it's like you're being stupid for being in this relationship rather than like I'm concerned for you and I just want what's best for you. Correct. And they are apparently friends right now,

which is so fun. Like yes, I can't because Sheena's mentioned she has talked to her every day. Like she's doing fine. Like whatever. So but that's the funny thing. So Sheena is being there for Lala as a friend because that's, you know, when things get heavy, that's what you do, which I guess Lala was trying to do for her. But it's like stop bringing up him like in front of him that's her man like you're right a baby now is involved so like stop give it up yeah yeah but um yeah so stay tuned i think this storyline is going to take us to the entire season to be honest i that's what bravo does i think a lot of the times there is no other storyline there is no other except like rquel's nose job they're probably like for cal can we use your nose job as a half a storyline she's like i guess here's the thing

As half a storyline. Here's the thing about people getting fired. And everyone, as much as everyone disliked Jack because he's like awful, raise your hand if you're blocked by Jacks, me. But yes. So it's he made, they made, they all made good television. So you can like it or not, but the show was better with controversy. Not controversy, but like drama.

Drama. And they even set all the drama that happened throughout all. all of the seasons of anner pump rules was revolving around jacks. Yeah. But it got to a point where, okay, but you're like actually not a good person. So yeah, it's like we would never want jacks to come back, obviously. But we need, we need that. I need drama.

I need the drama. I need the drama. And it can't just be between la la, every single episode saying you haven't seen your kids in four years because that's the quote of the season as. Yeah. So maybe even bring on Brany Glanville at this point. Just like bring her on.

shove her up on in here. Her and Sheena can rehash things. I don't know. Or like we could dabble in the show. That's what I'm saying. Bravo producers. You're listening. Lisa girl.

I used to be a waitress. Okay. Me too. Oh my God. Are we like, can you imagine? Can you fucking imagine? Okay. Sorry.

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