Mention It All - I’ll Have What Denise Is Having (RHOBH)

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Armed with a drink and an upside-down jacket, Dylan does his best to unpack Denise’s epic performance at Kyle’s weed dinner, along with Sutton’s questionable attack strategy, Annemarie’s less-than-promising entrance, and Kim Richards’ emotional return. Then, he weighs in on Meredith’s bathtub meltdown on RHOSLC. Earlier in the episode, he shares the latest update on RHOC’s season 18 casting picture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast.

It's Thursday, and we are finishing off strong another week with a wild, wild episode of Real House Boys of Beverly Hills to talk about. We're going to get into Salt Lake a little bit because I didn't get a chance to talk about it yesterday. And speaking of yesterday, it was an absolute pleasure to have Ms. Gertie Abrera on the podcast once again. If you haven't gotten a chance to listen to that episode yet, I would highly recommend it. But I want to talk about one specific thing in particular that Gertie shared. So we were talking about this direct TV holiday party that happened at Kathy Hilton's house last week. And before the direct TV party at Kathy Hilton's house, there was a little,

pre-get-together at Crystal's house. And this was the, there was a photo of everyone in Crystal's lovely redone basement. And, you know, there's Teresa's in the photo, Sheena's in the photo, Dixie D'emillo is in the photo, Emily Simpson is there. There's housewives, Bravo Labs, other, you know, left and right. And guess who's in that photo? Larsa and Marcus. And guess who's not in the photo? Gertie. So Gertie, apparently, according to her, was invited to this pre-event at Crystal's house. And then at the last minute, you know, I guess when Larsa's attendance was confirmed or when somebody found out that Larsa and Gertie weren't on good terms.

Gertie says that her invite was rescinded at the last moment, and she was offered, you know, a makeup breakfast or, you know, a different... This is interesting. It's very interesting. The way the battle lines are being drawn, the way things are shifting. I talked on Monday with the wonderful Jared Alexander about the housewives' podcast universe and how some of these people with I-heart deals are kind of, you know, hanging out together. I don't know if Larsa and Marcus were on some list because of that,

but it's, it's interesting to see kind of who takes priority because I think while Larsa is certainly more famous than Gertie, I don't think she's more well-liked in the housewife's house house wives world. So it's like is it a clout thing? Is it a I don't know. But definitely go listen to that episode if you haven't had a chance to check it out. Because Gertie and I had a really great conversation. She's obviously had, you know, quite the year full of ups and downs. And it was great to get to unpack that with her. I'm going to give it a rest on Miami today because I feel like we sort of dealt with that territory yesterday. But another, before we get into Beverly Hills. Another interesting story that is out there today is page six reporting that

Vicky has not gotten a contract for Real Housewives of Orange County season 18. At least not yet. They talked to her at the premiere of Jeff Lewis's new freebie show, Hollywood House Lift. I think it's called. I haven't had a chance to check that one out and doubt that I will if I'm being completely honest. But Vicky was there and she talked to page six and said that she has not received a contract. This is the quote. She's talking about season 17. I went on as good faith thinking I would show the network that I love them. I love filming, my value. But if I go back as a friend, it looks thirsty. She described being on the show as a, quote, good journey, but said, quote, I don't understand what they're doing. I don't know. She also was the one that said to page six that, quote, all the

calls were done last week. So Vicky herself is proclaiming that she's not gotten a contract. And this is super interesting because I think there's been a lot of chatter about the Orange County cast over the last couple of weeks. Obviously, Taylor Armstrong announced that she will not be returning to the show. And speculation has been picking up steam more and more that Alexis Bellino is going to be back on the show in some capacity. And then just this week, it was reported by our friend Dave Quinn for people that Alexis is dating John Jansen. Of course, Shannon's ex. And then also, as an extension of that, apparently Tamara and Shannon are not on good terms now.

They had some sort of breakdown in their friendship before Thanksgiving, purportedly over Tamara becoming closer with Alexis and now Alexis dating John. and this is something that Shannon has an issue with. Things are really cooking over an OC, and I don't know. Maybe we don't need Vicky for that. Maybe if there's enough juice with what's going on with Alexis and Tamara and Shannon, and, you know, we're going to have probably Jen coming back and Gina and Emily.

And Heather. Can't forget about Heather. Maybe. Maybe Vicky, maybe the window closed. Maybe the door is no longer ajar. I think she put herself in a little bit of a sticky situation by basically making this ultimatum that she would either come back as a full-time housewife or not at all. And if that's really how she feels, then she's sticking to her guns and good for her.

But I don't know. I think it's going to be tough for her if she ends up on the losing. side of that and it seems like maybe she has. But I mean, honestly, props to her for owning it and being the one to say that she hasn't gotten a contract yet because, you know, if she's going to go down for a second time, she's not going to do it with her tail between her legs. And I do respect to that. But I'm very curious to see what happens there. And God, this Alexis thing. Wow. If she's not coming back to housewives, then I, then girl, get out of there. But I have a feeling she is.

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Sprite is a registered trademark of the Coca-Cola Company. Ah. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh boy. We're picking up at Kyle's house. It's the dinner from hell, what is it? Round three, round two. There have been a lot of dinners from hell over the years, but I feel like this one is up there, at least for Kyle. God, just nothing's going right. We pick up where we left off with Garcell and Sutton poking around Kyle's marriage. And, you know, Kyle's like, well, you know, the reason I'm not drinking and the reason I'm working out is because it makes me feel depressed. And right now, I can't afford to feel depressed. I don't want to feel depressed. And I mean, amen, sister. Who does? But she says that my friends, me and my friends, like, Faye, we have conversations about this. It's not like, I don't get accused of things. And Sutton is like, well, maybe we're not as good of friends.

And it's like, I mean, yeah. That's what I've been getting. gathering. And honestly, this is, I feel like this is what I said a couple weeks ago when, I think when the Namam thing was happening for the first time, I'm like, I don't get this kind of like act that Kyle and Sutton have this deep, lasting, meaningful friendship bond. It's like, I think they've had some good times, they've had some bad times, but it's not, this is not a friendship that I'm losing sleep over, which is what makes it even stranger later. when they're in the kitchen, this is after Denise's left, which we'll get to, when they're talking again about the drinking and the esophagus thing and the

whatever, the foot medication and the, I don't even know, Sutton has a lot going on. And she's like, you've already lost two sisters. Do you want to lose another one? I'm like, I don't even, I don't know why no one said this, but it's like, why is Sutton comparing herself to Kyle's actual sisters? that she has been with her whole life and is always going through ups and downs with, like, aside from the fact that it's a low blow below the belt to bring that up, it's like, you're also just not close like that. It's like a false equivalency that I think, I don't know why nobody really called Sutton on that. It's like, they were like, well, that's a shitty thing to say.

But also, it's just inaccurate. it. Like, the only person I can think of on this cast who would maybe even have a claim like that would be to read, but even then it's like, it's just different. Somebody that you've been close friends with for a handful of years is much different than your sister that you've been, you know, on the ride with for 50 plus years of, you know, your mom maybe being a nightmare and then dying and then getting married and people get divorced and kids and grandkids. like, it's just not the same. And I'm like, it was, that was very weird. But what was even we, of course, was Denise. And we do, we do have to talk about Denise. Oh, God, it's so weird.

It's so strange. I, everybody's trying to figure out, you know, like, what is Denise on? What is, what's happening? Brandy Glanville is tweeting that she doesn't think it's, anything but alcohol because she knows that Denise doesn't do drugs. I'm like, thank you, thank you, uh, citizen Brandy for your, uh, for your valuable input on this situation. And we know that you and Denise have never, uh, have always had the exact same version of events. But like, the way that she brings up this thing with Erica is so strange. And it just feels like, it feels like, it feels like, it feels like. like you're watching somebody in real time, like, it's like on like an Apple computer when you get

that like spinning wheel, the rainbow spinning wheel of death. It's like Denise is just like trying, she's like trying to restart for like six times in a row. I'm doing emotion with my head that you can't see right now because this is a podcast. But it just feels like I don't know if there was a real thing under there, but it's just the way she can't call it to the front of her mind is it's so bizarre to watch. And later, the next day, when she's with Garcel and Sutton and Crystal, she brings up the specific time when it was like the party and her kids were there and Erica was talking about threesomes and, you know, she didn't like that she was doing it in an ear. shot of the kids. And it's like, okay, there's the example. Where was that the night before? It would

have been so simple. I mean, to be honest, I think Erica would have been, would have reacted differently because I think she would have said, what the fuck, Denise? I apologized for this three years ago. We talked about it on season nine or 10 or whatever year that was. So I actually think that weirdly, by not being able to communicate clearly, Denise sort of saved herself from more of a confrontation with Erica. Because I think if, you know, the other women were commenting on this, that it's like we're getting this side of Erica that is weirdly, it's like she can't be angry because she's simply so confused and perplexed. But I think if Denise had actually come come to her and tried to start some shit, Erica would have been like, nah, bitch, we're not doing

this. You're coming to me looking for a fight. I'm going to take you down. But she's literally just like, at a loss for words of like, Denise, I don't, and she's like, you know, you know, watch the show. Watch the show. Nobody has a talent for demolishing the fourth wall like Denise Richards. Like the Bravo, Bravo, fucking Bravo Queen herself. She's just, like, so casually. And I love that she is so out of it that nobody else even really acknowledges.

Like, we don't see, like, production, really. Like, it's not this big, like, dramatic fourth wall breaking moment. It's, like, everybody just looking around and being like, what are we doing? What? What? And then, I don't need an example.

Go watch the show. Go watch the show. just fuck the best exchange i wrote this one down she goes just fucking own it and eric is like own what and denise's like that it it reminds me of i just watched this morning and i don't know if it one led to the other but i watched that clip from bridesmaids or like it's i guess it's like a blooper or like a cut scene where it's Kristen Wig working at the jewelry store and this teenage girl and her are like going at it verbally. And there's a video of them just improvving for literally 10 minutes without a cut in the scene where they're just going back and forth, just making shit up.

They're like, well, you look old and stupid. And she's like, well, at least I'm not stupid and dumb. She's like, well, if you weren't stupid and dumb, you'd be able to come up with a better comeback. And she's like, well, you look like you're a. And it's a. And it's a. And it's a, uh, uh, and It's like you're just watching people. It's like what you're, you're like playing tennis and doing the bare minimum to get the ball over the net. Like that's, that's the, that's what, that's the level Denise is out right now. She's like, own it. That, you know, you know what you did.

You're just a bitch. Well, I think you're a bitch. Well, you know, that seems like something a bitch would say. Just, God, I will be. be thinking about that for a while. And then the moment, oh God, the moment with Doreet, when she's getting ready to leave and her little fuzzy sweater cover-up wrap shawl shrug thing, Doreet's like, Denise, baby, I think your sweater's, like, backwards or upside down?

And she's like, don't do that. And Doreet's like, no, I think it's upside down. She's like, don't start that with me. And Doreet's like, no, Denise, your sweater is upside down. I don't give a flying ass fuck about the jacket. Dorete's like, Doreen's like, I swear to God, I'm just trying to be like a helping hand in this moment and be like, no, babe, you're on TV and your jacket is literally upside down. Oh, God. This might be my favorite episode of Denise.

on housewives. It's just so, it's so, it's so, it's so baffling in so many ways, but also just kind of beautiful. Meanwhile Sutton's lighting up a joint at the table. Look, everybody should smoke the exact amount of joints that they want to, but I, doing it at the dinner table is a little bit like, like, maybe like step outside or like into another room. because half these women didn't even want any THC in their food. And now you're like blowing smoke in their face?

It's like Sutton, come on. I do think Sutton would run into less issues with the women in the group if she was just a little bit more considerate and mindful on a regular basis. because I think sometimes it's like she she positions herself as like the Southern Bell etiquette queen but then also it's like I don't think the etiquette queen would light up a joint at the table when nobody else is doing that.

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Your next obsession is waiting. Watch only on Prime. After Denise makes her grand exit, Derry tells Kyle about Sutton's comment about her being in denial. Kyle, of course, calls Sutton over and is like, Sutton, what am I in denial about? She's like, I don't know. She's like, well, you said it. She's like, well, I said it, but I don't know. What are you in denial about? And this is another, Sutton is like, well, if you're not in denial about anything, then I'll let it go.

And Kyle's like, no, what did you mean exactly? And this is just, I do, it's like, I like, I like Sutton, I think Sutton is, you know, an important piece of the show. But it does just feel like with the Kyle thing specifically, it's like a little bit of a put up or shut up kind of moment, like shit or get off the pot in terms of if you want to be the bone carrier and you want to be the one bringing, if you want to be the one putting the cop without a badge book on the table,

you've got to be able to carry the ball fully into the end zone. I'm mixing my metaphors a lot here. but I think you get what I mean. That it's like, this is, I mean, it's exactly what Anna Marie. Are we going with Anna Marie? I think Kyle said Anna Marie too, so that must be her name. I don't know. This is basically what Anna Marie, God, it sounds wrong to me.

It's what the new girl was saying, where she's like, Sutton was just like talking around things a lot and not willing to actually say what she means. And as much as I don't think me and Anna Marie are going to be, you know, fast friends in terms of what's what she's bringing to the show. I think she's right in this case that it's like, Sutton, if she wants to be the one starting the drama, then she needs to start the drama. She can't just throw it out there and then act like, oh, how'd that get there? But now that it's here, what is it? It's like, no, you know what it is because you're the one who's bringing it. You can't bring a weird dish that nobody's seen before to the potluck. And then when people are

like, oh, what's this? Who brought that? Be like, I don't know. What is that? You got to own it. You got to own your weird dish at the potluck. And Sutton, she definitely is. She's the odd dish at the potluck in this group. I don't know, though. Yeah. The scene where Kyle's at Anna Marie's house, they're playing pickleball. Again, pickleball. If I had a dollar for every time we've had to watch people play fucking pickleball on Bravo in the last two years, I don't know how many dollars I would have, but it would be enough to get like a, maybe like a Chipotle Bowl.

How much are those now? With inflation, probably not. I could get like a good bag of chips. Several dollars. But yeah, Kyle's like filling her in a little bit. Anna Marie is like, we have, Kyle and I have so many things in common. Like, her mom was born on the same day. I was born. Like, we share a birthday. And we also share a surgeon. I'm like, okay, first of all, I think two people sharing a birthday is like the most boring thing to have in common. like, okay, you were born on the same day, what, 30 years apart and you're, you're never going to meet, I don't know, whatever, people, people are, I'm not into astrology, I'm not into

birthdays, like, who cares? Also, like, you can't say the surgeon thing and then not give us context. I'm like, okay, so is it a plastic surgeon? Are we assuming that? I guess we know Kyle got a nose job. Is it that doctor? Did she do something else? What have you had done? Like, if you're going to bring surgeon up. Give us the context. I don't know. I'm really not feeling Anna Marie. She just, I think anybody coming into a cast halfway through the season, it's like you have to kind of explain your reason for being there and quickly. And I feel like I was expecting this episode to get more of like our formal introduction to her. And we do a little bit because she's like, you know, I've always been very competitive. I was playing basketball. And then I met, so it's not a

coincidence. I'm a husband. It's like, okay, but like, where's the husband? Where are the kids? What's the, what's the deal? And I also just like, I don't get the vibe that she and Kyle actually know each other more than casually. And then like, maybe they've hung out a couple times prior to her joining the show. But I don't know. I just am like, I don't think that I don't, at least so far, that she was like the missing piece of this cast. And if you're going to be showing up six episodes into the season, I need to feel like you need to like arrive. So, you know, jury's out on Anna Marie.

But we'll see. We'll see where it goes. The lunch with Garcel Sutton, Denise, and Crystal is interesting. I wasn't necessarily realizing that Denise was going to be a return player. She is a lot more lucid at the lunch than she was at Kyle's house. Like I said, she brings up this specific example about Erica talking about the threesomes. She has an interesting take on Kyle questioning Sutton's drinking. The whole drinking back and forth thing, to me, I kind of just like don't even feel like going there.

It's one of those things where it's like, if you're somebody who has. a legitimate issue with substance abuse. Obviously, I hope that you get the help that you need and, you know, get to a better place with that. But that was never Kyle's story on Housewives. So it's kind of like her deciding to stop drinking also is not that interesting to me. Like, her drinking was never that interesting. Her not drinking is also not that interesting. Right? Like, I just don't, I don't care. If someone in my life was like, yeah, I don't think I'm going to drink. That happens all the time.

That's like a normal. People go through phases with drinking. People stop for lots of different reasons. It just is like, leave it alone. Who cares? And in the same vein, maybe Sutton drinks more than she should, but I don't really know that. I mean, yes, she's like pouring her ocean spray at 1 p.m., but maybe that's a one-time thing. Who knows?

It just is like, and then Anna Marie, like, and then Anna Marie, like, questioning the esophagus condition. It's just like, I don't know. To me, I feel like you're getting into territory where it's like, focus on what's happening on the show. Don't focus on what somebody's doctor is telling them to do. It's the same of like Larsa being like, why is Gertie drinking if she has cancer? It's like maybe her doctor told her that it was okay. Right? Like these types of things, it just is, it's sort of outside the scope of. of what is really like worth, I don't know, worth getting into on Housewives. But anyway, the episode ends with a scene that I actually really, really, really liked.

It's Kyle and Derreet and then Kim Richards meeting up for a little hike. And having Kim back just feels so right. And if this is the only time we see her all season, that's okay. it seems like she's doing well, and it seems like she and Kyle are doing really well. And it really feels like Kim is sort of the glue or the, you know, she's the link that is hopefully going to bring Kyle and Kathy back together. And by extension, Kyle and Paris and Nikki and Paris's kids. like Kyle has, you know, now like grand nephew. I don't know how family works.

But it really is so sweet. I mean, Kim obviously has been through such a journey since we've known her on the show. And for her to be kind of making this case of you don't know, you don't know how much time you have. Think of all the time that's being wasted on this drama of. not speaking and it just is like, yeah, yeah. And you can tell that it's sort of hitting Kyle, that it's like, wow, like I haven't been talking to my sister all these months and all this stuff has been happening and I haven't met the baby and I haven't, you know, da-da-da-da-da.

And it actually has made me really happy to see that Kyle and Kathy are seemingly in a better place now. you know, they've been, there's been pictures of them together and stuff. So that's really nice. And I'm, you know, Kim is just color in murals on our wall and they look pretty good. And I love that for her. And, um, you know, I love that. I love that for all of us. You know, meanwhile, Salt Lake, that trip to Bermuda. God. What a shit show. Meredith Marks zonked out in the back of the sprint, van on the way from the airport to the house and then being like carried into bed basically. Oh, I don't know. The bath, the whole bathtub thing, it's good drama, but it also is like, are we being for real right now? I understand the idea that it seemed like the women

weren't that concerned about her suffering, but also it's like, you're, on vacation, you're probably there for three nights if you don't have a bathtub. Like, it's simply going to be okay. She gets her IV. She's back up at dinner. It's like, she was actually like sick, quote unquote, for what, three hours? Like, it's dinner the first night and she's back with a vengeance. I don't know. I'm obviously very curious to see where this trip goes. It's not going to be anywhere good, that's for sure. Seeing Whitney and Heather get back into it, it was like, no, we were, we were doing so good for a second there. And then, I don't know, Lisa got involved

and Meredith still fucking hates Angie. There's a lot of, a lot of irons in the fire on Salt Lake, and none of them seem to be going in a good direction. But I'm excited to see how that trip turns out. I'm excited for everything we have coming up, some exciting guests in the works and some some really good recaps and stuff happening over the next few weeks. So make sure that you are subscribed, following the show, wherever you listen, so you never miss an episode. Thank you so much for listening. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches.

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