Mention It All - In The RHUGT Trenches Ft. Brice Sander

Episode Date: June 22, 2022

Dylan is joined by Entertainment Tonight’s Brice Sander, who shares some behind the scenes info from his must-see interview with Vicki and Tamra. They chat about what makes this season of RHUGT so special, and why desperation can be a good thing. They also chat about the future of RHOC, and whether the Legacy format makes sense. After that, they discuss the current seasons of Beverly Hills and Atlanta, and who’s putting in the most work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am Dylan Hafer, and today I am so lucky to be joined by one of the foremost journalists in the Real Housewives game. You know him from his fabulous interviews. He is a producer, and more importantly, the chief Real Housewives correspondent at Entertainment tonight. Please welcome Bryce Sander. Hi, Bryce. Hi, thank you for having me. What an intro. I mean, you really are, you're out here in the trenches, doing the work, getting the answers we need, sitting down for, you know, states of the union with everybody that we want to hear from.

I do kind of consider them to be states of the housewives union when I sit down and talk to these people. Well, I mean, it's, you know, some interviews. obviously are going to be a little more impactful than others. You know, there's guests that you just need to hear from. And you have just recently published the last part of a really, a whopper of an interview with Vicky and Tamara. And I need to know what was this experience like?

Because watching it felt slightly chaotic. So I have to imagine you were sort of flying by the seat of your pants a little bit. I mean, yes and no, at this point, like I know. what I'm getting with those two. And I put myself in that position. I asked to have them together. But yeah, no, it was chaos. Like, booking it was a little chaos because Vicky was like,

I need to do it at Cotto Insurance. So we were supposed to do it like in a conference room at Cotto Insurance. And then Tamara was like, I don't want to do this at Cotto Insurance. Then we wanted to put Tamara's house. But then Vicki was late because she had scheduled her day around doing the interview at Cotto Insurance. And, you know, she showed up without hair and makeup. So then Tamara's glam, people had to do her hair and makeup.

Oh, God. But then we sit down, it was like, what's out there is like the majority of what we filmed. I think we talked for like 40 minutes and like 37 minutes of content is out in the world now. So like you're missing very little. But yeah, I mean, those two were ready to be back on TV, ready to talk about it. Well, I mean, Vicky has really gone, you know, full force into it with Derinda before the show has even premiered. Obviously, that had already happened a little bit by the time you sat down with them and you got Tamara to read the thousands of texts as Dorenda said. The word you'll get in the housewives canon.

Texts is, it's like it's only on housewives as that word is. Yeah. So, I mean, Vicky was not going to pull out the text, but we kind of goaded her into. like, nope, you have to pull out your phone. Also, her phone had been going off during the interview, so it was like, you've got to get up to silence it anyway, so you might as well pull it out. And they weren't thousands, but there were like six very long texts. Right. Right. Like, when Tamara was reading them, it took her several, it took her like a minute to get through reading all these texts. It wasn't nothing. It was not nothing. And I do think it was mostly

Vicky sending stuff and Derinda not responding. It seemed that Derinda replied twice, once with they dig about the gifting of the house and once being like, I'm at my daughter's graduation. Please stop texting me. Yeah, going into this season, I mean, this cast, from the moment we knew who was going to be on the show, obviously there's a lot of big personalities, a lot of baggage coming into the season.

But now I've seen the premiere. I think you've seen at least the first couple episodes. It really does feel like everyone came into this season, sort of guns blazing with stuff to get off their chest, and I am so thankful for that. Well, yeah, well, they found women who have some underlying feuds. And you also have this kind of subconscious desperation of they haven't been on TV. They're excited to have a moment again. I think some of them probably viewed this as an interview to get their jobs back.

And so, like, the stakes are higher than in the first one. Totally. I mean, that's the thing. when you have Melissa Gorga and Kyle Richards on the beach, it's like, I enjoy watching it, but they don't have anything to prove. You know, they're just, they're just on a nice vacation, and maybe there'll be an argument, you know, maybe there won't, but whatever. Whereas this, it's like, oh, no, no, no, we're going to talk about all of it because whether or not this is an audition to get back on Housewives proper, it's your chance to be on TV again, you know,

everybody's going to see you. And that desperation, it really, it leads to great. things. It's not in the premiere, but I guess the first three episodes drop it once. And by the time this is out, I'm sure people will be watching. But like the way Jill enters is such a good moment. She doesn't come until episode two. But they call back to Scary Island in a way that just gave me like goosebumps. I was like, oh, this feeds my soul.

I actually, from watching the premiere, I was pleasantly surprised by how much I felt like Eva was really tuned in coming to play. I was really having a fun time with Taylor. I didn't know what to expect

from her just because it's been so long since we saw her on Housewives. I really feel like even the people that seemed a little bit random or surprising

when we found out about the casting, it kind of all, it makes sense when you're watching it. And I'm so glad that it is working out that way.

Yeah, I was like, huh, what's this vibe going to be? and I'm so thankful Tamara's there. Tamara was not supposed to be there. Like she was, Vicky got COVID right before they started filming.

So they contacted Tamara as the, we don't have Vicky. We need somebody. And so she signed up and then Vicki wound up being cleared to film after all. So then they got to both be there. Because Tamara is such like a necessary force within this group that I don't, it would have been strange without her. Yeah. I think, you know, with people like, Brandy and

Vicky, it's like, I think they're, they don't really have that filter or that sort of instinct to like reel it in, whereas Tamara has that producer's instinct and like she Tamara, this is a hill I will die on. Tamara invented Housewives. She invented the game we watch

now all these years later. The first two seasons of Real Houseways of Orange County, no one was starting any drama or causing any conflict within the group. Tamara comes in, and it's you go to Bass Lake, naked, wasted. I mean, moments that maybe don't go down in history as the most ethical things, but kind of laid the groundwork and the framework for how people operate on these shows now.

And I do not think she gets the credit she deserves for that. Absolutely. I mean, I think Orange County, in a way, in a lot of ways, doesn't get the credit it deserves because a lot of people started watching Housewives with New York or with New Jersey or Atlanta. But, I mean, Tamara, especially in those early seasons of O-Santis. see, it's just, it doesn't, it doesn't miss. It's so entertaining to go back and watch those kind of like middle seasons where it's like the Tamara, Alexis, Gretchen, Vicky, like that whole mess of.

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trip to Ross. Work your magic. I'm curious talking about OC. In your interview with Vicky and Tamara, you asked them about if they were to do a legacy show like they've said they're going to do with New York. What are your thoughts about that concept? Because I've heard people talk about it and whether or not other franchises would do well with the legacy version. And I think OC is kind of the one that might make sense. But I'm curious where you feel about the direction of that franchise right now. I don't think I've processed how to feel about the legacy stuff. I think I need to know who is going to be on the New York one so I can kind of have a better

picture of how that's going to work. I don't know. O.C. needs something. I think what O.C. needs is Tamara Judge. Like there's just not a person who will go up against other people on that cast right now, but in a way that will not necessarily offend people as some other people on that show kind of stepped into that. You know, space who are no longer on it. I think O.C. could do a legacy?

But I'm like, do I want to watch Joe De La Rosa? I don't know. But I would be more interested in seeing a season that's like Heather, Shannon, Tamara, maybe Gina, Emily. and like a new, a new person. Maybe Noelle is in there because I think she has some unfinished business. Um, so I would be interested to see something like that, like a, a fix of bringing back a strong, like another strong legacy person. I don't want to discount. Like, I think Heather's a very strong legacy cast member, um, before they would shift to fully being legacy. Yeah, I think I agree with that because also when you talk about with New York, obviously they're doing legacy in

addition to this reboot that they're going to do of the original franchise. And when I think about OC, I'm like, I don't know if we really need the reboot version. So I would rather they just kind of like legacy if I. Yeah, well, because I think it's, New York is, there are different pockets and, you know, roles and different lifestyles and all that. Like, oh, see, it's kind of like this is, it's, you know, affluent white people. Like, that's what the orange junk is. So it's not. So it's It's harder to kind of reinvent. Right. I'm not like dying to see a new group of six Newport moms.

Like. Right. But yeah, I mean, I think there still is, you know, fertile territory and knowing that maybe there's a bador open. As you said, like, yeah, I was shocked to find out that they're texting. And that it all came from a terror being kind about Shannon on two T's in a pause. Like, that's what opened to the bodice. door. But yeah, I would be, and I think they would be remiss to not try and capture that on camera if the three of them were to sit down and kind of hash out the issues they have. Absolutely.

I have to say, and the funniest that interview that you did, I could not stop laughing when Tamara was talking about her podcast and Vicki looked like she just wanted to fly out the window. There are so many moments. That is stuff I had to kind of like trim down a little bit just because it was so much. But it's like, yeah, she was like, we got, we got to change the subject. But two twits, two twats, two, you know, she like had all these made up make things for it. She called it two peas and a Todd at one point. And I was like, are we talking about Candy Burr's husband now? And she just like really hates Teddy for no reason. And Teddy's not happy about it. And has just posted the interview slamming Vicky. So that's going to be a whole fun new cycle to live

through now. Yeah, Tamara, I feel like is really living dangerously by, you know, this podcast is just opening Pandora's box for everyone to either like love her or hate her, but they're going to have thoughts, which I think good for her. She says she's making a lot of money. Yeah. It seems to be doing well. And, you know, Teddy's name has never been in the press more. And Teddy, I think, was an underrated member of her cast. I understand people's feelings about her. But think about the three seasons she was on. What would those seasons have been had she not been there to ask the questions that she asked? Nothing. Nothing would have happened. Okay, yeah. I mean, I think Teddy is one of those people where, like, I will never think she was, like, an incredible housewife or the most exciting housewife. But, like, I can appreciate that it's like, she wasn't not trying or she wasn't just like, she wasn't giving us nothing. I think she wasn't giving us, like, what we really truly wanted, but in the absence of something better.

It was kind of friend of energy, like aggressive friend of energy. But I appreciated what she contributed during her time on the. show. And I think she is the, like, the greatest fired housewife for the way she handled her firing because she was so honest about it instead of saying, it's time to move on to my next chapter. She was like, nope, I have been let go. I'm very sad about it. I hate that this happened, but I'm telling the truth. I was like, good on you, Teddy, when that all unfolded now, like, over two years ago. I know. Yeah, I do respect the way she handled that. And that also comes up on this season of girls trip where everybody's like, no, like, we were fired. Whatever. said at the time, I was fired.

Speaking of Teddy and of, you know, Beverly Hills seasons past, I'm curious how you're feeling about this season and maybe the start of Sutton and Erica not hating each other, which was very surprising, but who knows? I'm enjoying this season. I think it's good. Everyone seemed to come to play. There's like good group dynamics, rich storylines. I'm confused about the crystal in the 14th.

friends and I think we will forever be confused by that because no one. The thing about Beverly Hills is they all love to speak cryptically to like forever. Like they will never give you a straight answer. They will never clarify stuff. They will just speak in these like ideas floating out in the universe. And you're like, okay. But I think it's good. I'm interested to see what happens with Sutton and Erica. I do not think they are going to be like friends. I think they've gotten to a like friendly coworker place. Like if they were in an office space and they're. they were getting coffee in the kitchen, they would say, like, how was your weekend? But, you know, like, that's the relationship I think they're going to have.

I'm interested to see, like, what happens with Erica and Garcel and why things take such a left when they were kind of starting in a good place. And then Garcell seems to have turned on Crystal once again, but in real time, not on what we're watching on the show. And then we got all the Kathy stuff to get into. So the reunion is going to be 10 parts, probably. Yeah, I was talking to someone about this yesterday, that it's like, it feels like there's so much going on in the season already,

and this crystal dark comment thing, the last few episodes, has really sort of like taken on a whole life of its own, and there's so many theories and whatever's happening with Diana on the show, and then on Instagram, it's a whole lot, but then... I don't think she knows what she signed up for. Like, she seems lost a little bit. Like, I'm... She's fascinating, but I'm like, she's, I think she kind of learned as she went.

I don't think she watched an episode or understood what she had signed herself up for. Yeah, it's always, it's always tricky when you have a housewife who seems like they don't really have that background knowledge of the show. Sometimes I think it can be a beautiful thing to watch them kind of learn in real time. And sometimes it's like, oh, oh, baby, no, you're not, you're not ready for this. like Kim Fields on Atlanta. It was like, get out of there. Save yourself. You can't be here right now. But like, with Diana, it's like

she has all of the pieces of the puzzle to be like this iconic rich weirdo on Beverly Hills. But then it's like, no, no, no, we need you to like, do this. We need you to like be here. You have to participate. You have to answer the questions when asked. You cannot just say someone is clumsy with their words

repeatedly. Yeah, because it's like even with the stuff with the book, it's stand in it and defend it and like fully shut it down. Don't not like address it without addressing it. It's again, it's going to be a 10-part reunion. There's a lot of unanswered questions already and we've got like two thirds of this season left to watch. I know. We've not seen Kathy yet and that's going to be a whole thing. We also haven't seen Cherie who like clearly does enough to earn a friend of title and we haven't seen her yet.

So it does feel like there's a lot. it's gonna be a lot and with Erica, with Garcell's book, like that whole saga that happened after they finished filming, like, that reunion truly is gonna be. It's gonna be like a bloodbath.

It was also they put so many people on this cast this season. It's almost like a fight to see who stays. Like, yeah. Can they maintain a cast of 10 people? Well, I'm curious what you feel about Crystal right now

because I feel like every, but for the most part, I think people liked Crystal on her first season or felt like she, you know, did well enough. But then I think this situation in the last few weeks, some people are really frustrated with her. Some people are still loving her. Like, how do you feel about Crystal's staying power as a housewife? I think second seasons make or break somebody.

And you got to judge it at the end of the game. So right now I think she's in a tough spot. But I do still think, like I still enjoy her. I just wish she would, again, instead of like speaking cryptically or brushing stuff off, would just blurt it out. Like, lay it all out there, say what you mean, defend yourself, because that's what it will save you in the end.

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See you this summer. Speaking of, I'm curious, second season Housewives, this season of Atlanta, Drew, I feel like, is really in the center of a lot of the dynamics so far. And I'm curious how you feel about her two-season performance so far. So I liked to Drew in her first season. I thought she was like a little... I mean, last season, they were all a little lost because it was like COVID. I think they didn't know who was a housewife who wasn't.

Like, I don't think they knew what Latoya's role was and then Fallon was around. Like, I think they were confused. So, but I'm enjoying her. I think she's bringing what needs to be brought. Drop it with Drew. I would love... Like, I'm just loving everything is... There's so much to discuss.

Like, Marlowe's commentary on all things Drew is cracking me up every week when she's like, oh, the 21-day program. It's a Facebook group. Like, all that kind of stuff is killing me. And also, like, I'm on Drew's side in the Sonia stuff. Like, Sonia seems to be going really hard, really fast. And so I'm like, I kind of understand where Drew's coming from because it's like whiplash of, and it's very much housewives, you know, they met probably two days before production, were told to be friends, came in. pretending to be friends and then it blows up in their faces. Yeah, I'm enjoying Sonia this season so far. I appreciate that she really is getting in the mix right away, but it is kind of funny.

Obviously, it was sort of the directive that she was going to be friends with Drew, quote unquote, coming on to the show. And she really only kept that up for like two episodes and then was like, I don't know about Drew. And I mean, it's entertaining, but also like I do imagine that for Drew, she's kind of like, wait, I thought I was going to have a friend this season. Yeah, I think it was, I think that's what exactly what it is. Like, Drew was like, this is going to be my person, will be a duo, we'll have each other's backs, and then all of a sudden, Sonia was like, I'm going to go with Shire. Yeah, and then weirdly we have Kenya kind of liking Drew so far this season, which I just did not see coming.

Kenya, like Marlowe excluded is being like the grand connector of this group, which is so unexpected. Yeah, I think the cast shakeup that they did this season, at least so far, feels like it's kind of doing what they needed it to do, which is, I think with Kenya and Porsche, particularly, I love Porsche, but it felt like we were kind of at an impasse with the, with the cast dynamic, that even if they decide that they're going to make up and like get along, that isn't actually going to work. Like, I just don't think, I don't think Kenya and Porsche click together. I don't think they ever will. And I think when they try to, it feels forced and then it doesn't work. And then everything's awkward. Because they're ignoring their actual feelings. It's like you,

there's, there are two alphas. And I also think Portia had like grown tired of being in the, with the group. Like, I think she was over. Right. Dealing with women's business, you know? Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's kind of my philosophy with housewives casting is that like, if you, if you at all don't want to be on the show or think you're too good for the show or feel sick of playing along, then leave. Maybe you can come back down the road. Maybe you can, you know, do some other project. But it's like housewives works best when everybody is working together on the group project to, you know, come to the best result.

So when you have somebody in the group and I think Nini was kind of like this in some of her later seasons as well, as iconic as she is and as amazing of a housewife as she was, that it's like, We really need six or seven women who, like, are down to, are down to participate. Yeah, everyone needs to show up for work and not think they're better than the show or not think they're better than any of, well, I guess you can think you're better than your co-stars, but not in the, like, larger conversation of we're contributing to this show. Like, everyone's equal in that sense. But if you want to give them digs about, you know, whatever they're doing while you're filming, sure.

Because, yeah, I think it's dangerous territory when people obviously are not playing. the game. Right. And this season, it's like you have, obviously, I think Marlowe is extremely happy to have her peach and she will do whatever it takes. I think Shiree, as Shiree is clocked in and back. I love Shiree's story of coming back of, she signed her contract like two minutes before she walked into that dance studio where they filmed the opening scene. Like, they were like, she's at the gym and they were like, oh, your contract's good. And so she just showed up to film. I was like, this is how you do it. And we're seeing a Shiree, we've never seen. seen before. And this is a Shiree I'm really enjoying. That first scene of the season was so

amazing because right away it felt like it was a completely new show, like a completely new dynamic, seeing those four women that we've known for so long, but we've seen them go through so many ups and downs and leaving the show and being a friend of and, you know, coming back. Like, seeing those women just kind of like come together to like, it felt like they're like launching a era kind of. It was like, this is, this is correct. This is where we need to be. It felt like, it feels like seasons four or five, like when we had the Kenya Porsche Renaissance, like after the, you know, they kind of cycled through the OGs. It feels like that again. And I feel people are, as housewives go on, the audience gets harsher about it and doesn't view it

in the like larger historical sense of like looking for those patterns. So if it doesn't live up to whatever they consider to be the strongest season ever, they write it off as a failure. But it's like not everything is going to be Roney season three. Like not everything's going to be that. Yeah. I mean, I think I talk about this with a lot of people that like I think social media and just like the way we consume so much content and everything now has made it very easy to just be like dissatisfied with pretty much anything. And I think with this season of Atlanta, something that I've really enjoyed is that I feel like the show is light and fun and shady and messy and there are storylines that are interesting. But at the end of the day, I feel like I sort of

don't have that many thoughts about it. And I kind of like that. It's like I don't have to spend my entire week being like distraught about whether like Candace and Monique are going to kill each other. You know, like it's, it's sometimes it's nice to just watch an hour of TV and be like, that was fun. Well, and even with the like Kenya versus Marrott. stuff. I think they play it up a little bit. Like, I don't think it's that deep for either of them. This cast, for the most part, like, they are, there's a friendliness or like a, they found common ground where they're like, okay, we're making this for entertainment. We can be a little shady. We can poke a few buttons, but no one's trying to destroy anyone else's life, at least as far as we

know, which is nice. It's like, oh, okay, this, it's what the shows are meant to be. Exactly. We can We can drop it with Drew. We can Mommy Nation. That is a Housewives trope I wish would go away. It's like, thank you, Bethany for this. But it's like, we don't need to launch a business when we come on the show. And we don't need to try and force our business into our story for the whole season. Well, and there always has to be this air of like, this business is so successful.

We've had like a runaway first year or whatever. And it's like, okay, I guess. And Drew keeps saying people, people lose. 100 pounds. Show me. Like, I don't understand. Like, we haven't explained what this is. No, I mean, drop it with Drew.

God bless her, but, you know, I just, I can't. I also, so I don't know if you saw recently. Fadre was on the Wendy Williams show, which was at the time, the Michael Rappaport show. And she was talking about her connections to the Real Housewives of Dubai and said that she owns a Seymoss company. and a tech business in Dubai. And Fadra is one of those people where I'm like,

if you say so, I'm sure you do. Her business portfolio is, I would love to just see everything she's tapped into. Because there's, I mean, she considers herself a mortician, and she does run funerals, but as far as I know, she does not have, like, a funeral home. She's like a freelance mortician. Yeah, she's a freelance mortician.

and then she still practices law to an extent I think mostly she's doing her own contracts now and then yeah whatever's happening in Dubai and Fadra I would be fascinated I'm glad we're getting her on Ultimate Girls trip but I would love to see her back on Housewives which I know will only come should Candy choose to leave the show because I feel like she's a different person now

than the person we saw in her original run I feel like in the original run, she was trying to almost present this Southern Bell who she thought she needed to be. And since being kicked off the show, she's found out who she actually is and is living her life that way. And I would love to see that version of her, but in the actual Atlanta Housewives where we're with her in her life and not just getting a week with her at Bluestone Manor. Yeah, I agree. It felt like there was that. She was like putting on airs a little bit, you know, like there was this kind of character that she was playing. very entertaining, but also

it feels now like she is kind of like living her best life and like being kind of who she's always wanted to be a little bit. And like her kids are older. She's not married. You know, maybe she feels like she has more freedom to kind of like, if she wants to wear a dress with her whole butt out to the

girl's premiere. And a wig down to her knees. Like, let her live her life. When I saw that, I was like, oh my God. What would Fadre from season five think of this Fadre? She'd have a lot to say about her. Fix it, Jesus.

I, okay, this is, so I took a photo with Fager last day, and she fully just, like, clutched my body. And her, her shoulders and back were the smoothest, softest skin I have ever felt in my lap. What? She looked lotioned up in every photo. I was like, okay, you are glistening. Body makeup for the gods, you know. That's where I thought this story was going. I thought you were like, and then she released me and I was covered in body making.

Yeah, my shirt was like glittery after. No, it was, it was kind of fun to see everyone in that cast because for some of them, it's been longer than others, but it's like, Brandy looked hot. I don't know. Like, everybody looked good. Jill was wearing like a plastic dress. I don't know. Like, everything's, I got to go back and look at these photos.

Did you see any Vicky or Derinda interaction? They were standing shockingly. close in some of the photos I did see. I was like, I thought they would be on opposite ends of the photo, but I think Vicky was like, I have to be in the center of the photo. So they did a little moment on stage. Like, after we watched the premiere, the like screening finished, they brought them out on stage. And there was like a lightly scripted kind of like banter moment, which was like a little weird, but it was, you know, it's fun because they're all on stage. And there was one point where like Vicky's kind of doing her little part. And Dyrinda like rolls her.

rolled her eyes a little bit. But, you know, and then like Derinda, they like ended it by doing like, on the count of three, we're going to say clip three times, which is like, okay, whatever. But like, everybody's like, clip, clip. And Vicky kind of is standing there like, why are we doing this?

Like, why are we doing the clip? Like, why are we doing the clip? Like, so unaware of like anybody else's contributions to the housewife's canon that she probably had no idea what that was. Right. And she's like, why are we doing Derinda? thing. Like, why aren't we whooping it up? You know, I don't know. But I don't think they really were

interacting very much because they had, they had like a big VIP area where all of the housewives were like camped out. But then they were mingling a little bit, taking some photos. But Vicky, Durinda didn't stay that long, which I was surprised. I mean, I feel like Durinda's like the life of the party. Maybe she had to get back to the Berkshires. And Vicki and Tamro were very much like doing the rounds together. So I don't think there was much conflict going down. But, you know, I did see Brandy and Fadra having like a 10-minute really like intense discussion in the middle of the VIP area. Brandy said somewhere that they're pitching a dating show for the two of them. Like they want to go out and pitch that show. So maybe they were having a business

meeting in the middle of the party. I would watch that 10,000 percent. Peacock. Peacock. It's- Get it going. going, have them set each other up on dates, be in each other's ear during the dates. Like, imagine the things Brandy would say to Fadra and vice versa. It would be wild. Right, it would be. And I think this cast, more than the first season of Girls' Trip, it feels like it's opening up kind of the, it's like cracking open the world of possibilities of what, of what

pairings we could have. And I'm, I'm excited for that. I'm down. Well, it feels like they found friendship. Like, I feel like season one maybe. some of them walked away kind of like, okay, I like that person.

But this one, it's like, oh, these women are like in each other's lives now. Yeah, and I think with season one, there was a little bit more,

I feel like they all sort of already knew each other. Like, it's like, yeah, like Melissa and Ramona and Kyle have all been at enough, like, things together.

Like, they've all done the rounds. Whereas this, it's a little bit more like, oh, like, Taylor sounds cool. I don't know. Like,

what's up with her? I did like that, uh, Vicky is just like, I have no clue who Eva is. I still don't. Who is that? I thought for sure when I asked her about that, that she would be like, oh, now I know, but she would just double down as like, I still don't know who that person is. And Eva was so excited to meet her. So I was just like, you know, Vicky, you are Vicki Gunnvelson through and through forever and ever committed to who you are.

I will say, Eva is a smart person because that is the one and only way to introduce yourself to Vicky, if you want her to not hate you, to be like, oh my God, I've dreamed of meeting you. You're a queen, you're a legend. Hi, Vicki. I'm Eva. And Vicki's like, okay. Hi. It's so true.

Oh, my God. Well, Bryce, thank you so much for joining me today. This has been so fun. And I can't wait to see. I'm sure you have more incredible interviews coming up. We'll see. I think nothing else has been filmed yet, but I'm sure there will be some content. I want to talk to Jill about the Bethany playing reunion.

Like, there's a lot. The ultimate girl's trip, it's going to be the gift that keeps on giving for the next couple months. Right. It's like I need, we need interviews with all of them on just a recurring basis. Like every two weeks, you get Derinda back.

You know, I would like, who would I want to touch base with every two weeks? Yeah, maybe Durinda. But Durinda's a talker. Yes. Yes. I have, yeah, I've spoken on the phone to Derinda once and I didn't know what was happening, but it was like, I guess this phone call is happening.

And it's like, I'm like half, only half of the words are like intelligible. Well, she just like, okay. She just wants to tell you about her day. And she wants to ask you about you. Like, it's great. She's like a human being. But it's just so funny because it's not how interviews normally operate. You're like, okay.

We're just hanging out. Exactly. Exactly. Well, before we go, tell everyone where they can follow you and find all your interviews and content and stuff. I am at Bryce Sander everywhere. You can, I try and post as in real time as possible as soon as stuff goes up so you can go watch it and give me the views and repost it and all those things. Amazing. Well, thank you so much for being here. And thank you everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen so you never miss an episode.

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