Mention It All - Innocent Until Proven Shah-mazing (RHOSLC)

Episode Date: December 13, 2021

Bari and Dylan kick off the week with a deep dive on the latest episode of RHOSLC, where Jen rejoins the group (sort of) after the Vail trip. Loyalties are quickly shifting as her and Mary’s scandals pick up steam, and they unpack the group dynamics. Later, they chat about the new season of Summer House. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha laugh funny Mention It All A Bravo by Betches podcast We don't say that But now we said it With Dylan Hafer Who's going to check me, boo And Barry Rosenfeld

I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey everyone Welcome back to the mention at all podcast I'm Dylan Hafer And I'm Barry Rosenfeld Happy Monday Happy Monday

And happy birthday Taylor Swift I just have to start that off My day off with that Why? This is not a Taylor Swift podcast, Barry. Because I'm expecting a drop of some sort because of it, okay? I just have to. Does she usually do that? Well, all that's been going on lately with her album releases, she still has some more coming. So I figured her birthday, why not? I don't know. I'm manifesting. Who knows? Best of luck. Best of luck with that. Thank you so much. I will be busy not paying attention.

How is your weekend, Dylan? It sounds like we're both having like a little bit of a cold situation. It's not a cold. I think I'm just like, I don't know. You know, you've sniff like 10 times. But it's not. I know.

I'm just like I'm like making. I'm always like I always make sure like I'm the anti like I hate like buggers. So I'm making sure like there's like there's no like there's like no boogers in my nose. That's like what I'm doing. Oh, okay. That's cute. Yeah. Is it?

Tell the listeners about your boogers. That's what I'm doing. How was your weekend? My weekend was great. You know, I had a nice, pretty relaxing weekend. And here we are with another episode of Salt Lake City. I wasn't on the podcast last Monday to talk about Salt Lake City. So I feel like it's been a minute.

I had to, like, drop back into, you know, what's going on with our ladies. Yes. Did you watch, you watched it, though, your like last week's episode, obviously. Yeah, I watched it like a little, I watched it like a few days late, but obviously, yes, I am now caught up. Actually, sometimes it's better to miss the, miss like one episode and then watch like two in a row. It's like more info. I didn't quite do two in a row, but I watched it like, you know, on Friday or Saturday and then the new one last night, obviously. And, you know, things are happening quickly because now that we're back from Vail, Jen is, you know, back to filming with.

the other women. This week we only see her with Heather, but it is awkward. It is strange to see her, you know, it's like halfway pretending that nothing is wrong, but then also every time she's in a scene, she has to like address the situation. And I got to say watching her at lunch with Heather, who was allegedly the only one who would pick up the phone for Jen. And so they're at lunch together and Jen is like, it's kind of hard to watch because she's immediately talking about how she's innocent. The government has no evidence. She thought she was being kidnapped when the arrest happened. Like, it feels like Jen has been sitting at home waiting for like, how quick can I get on camera and explain my side of the story. Yeah, it's a little bit of a mix of I should not

go back on this show slash I need a paycheck. Like, it's that I can feel that through the screen where because you don't know what to say and what not to say yet. Like, it's really weird and uncomfortable. And also, you don't know what questions. You can even hear her stutter over her words a little bit in the conversation with Heather. Like, she was like, oh, I mean, like, she didn't know, like, what to say. But also, she got a new number and a new phone. So I kind of don't blame the women because a lot of people don't answer the phones if they don't

know the number. Yet she did text them and say, hey, it's just. This is my new number. Well, that's true. But also, like, if I were in Meredith or Lisa's shoes, it's like, yeah, I'm not that eager to pick up the phone for Jen Shaw. Like, there's, no thanks. It's not just a matter of, you know, do I know who the number is? And, you know, do I know Jen?

It's like, yeah, maybe we need a little bit of distance right now. And I have to say, like, when she was talking about, you know, the authorities going to her house. and, you know, with her sons and holding them at gunpoint. I totally sympathized with her on that part because it was really scary. We talked about how we didn't really even like that Bravo showed us that footage because it was kind of just unsettling and unnecessary. And I totally understand why Jen feels so strongly about that. But then she brings it right back to,

and just look at what the government can do to you with no, evidence and no proof. And it's like, that's literally, you're literally just lying. Even if you say you are, like, her maintaining her innocence is one thing. But to say that the government has no evidence, it's like, that's, we've seen, like, it's just false. It's totally false. Yeah. And that's why they arrested you. Like, because they have the information that like they needed to go after you. But she's basically, and then she's saying her and still, like, she does it. when she saw him, she was like, what? Oh, my God.

And I was like, damn, maybe you are a good actress. I don't know. But it's funny because then you hear, have people like Heather, who is like her friend is like giving this information to the camera. She's like, Stu is Jen's number one guy. Like, they do everything together. They know everything. I'm like, Heather, shut up. Like, stop saying things to the camera.

Well, I think. Well, that's the thing. Like, the entire time this show has been on. we've always been told and shown how Stu is like her right-hand man. She can't do anything without him. Even just a few episodes ago, which now the timing is really delicious. She and Stu are having this conversation about how, you know, they've always been in it together. And, you know, they've sacrificed and time with their families and all of this stuff.

And it's like, you can't have it both ways. Like, it's one thing I don't blame her. you know, she has pled not guilty, you know, she's going to trial you're innocent until proven guilty, all that stuff. Like, I don't blame her for claiming that she's innocent because that I think is pretty normal. But she is contradicting stuff that she has told us and shown us in the last two seasons on this show. And it's like, you don't all of a sudden get to say that you don't really know Stu that well when you have been talking about how he's like, you're everything for a year and a half on TV. And so I think that's kind of where, you know, most of us probably already think

that she's guilty, but I think she's sort of losing out on any chance to kind of save face because she's going so hard in the opposite direction of like, this is bullshit. I, you know, there's absolutely nothing to this. And it's like, okay, well, you know, then you're looking at the, you know, the federal court. And we know that they have this high. conviction rate and they don't bring, you know, all the legal experts are saying how they don't bring charges in this court unless they're like, have a lot, a lot of evidence. And so I just think, I think she would be, she would make herself look a little bit better if she was just kind of like playing it cool more right now versus going off in the opposite direction of like, fuck this,

fuck that. I don't, this, this is ridiculous. It's like, just take a breath and, you know, be emotional. Like, it makes sense for her to be emotional. Something crazy is happening, but, like, I don't know. It's tough. It's tough. When her and Heather hugged at lunch and Heather, I don't know if it was like self-consciously, she was almost like patting her down. Like Heather literally went to like the butt and back up. She's like, oh, fur and she like patted her down. I was like, Heather, she's not wearing a wire. Don't, don't you worry. She's like, fuzzy. It's very fuzzy. Let me get this part. Oh my God. Yeah. I, um, I don't know. Jen also wants apologies from the other women. That seemed random. That's going to be a tough one. So Heather tells her how Meredith and Lisa were

reacting after the arrest news came through. And, you know, I, to Jen's credit, you know, Lisa and Meredith are not being very supportive of her right now. And I think. they are, I think they are warranted in making that decision, but also I think Jen is allowed to be frustrated by that. But at the same time, it's like, you know, when you're getting arrested and indicted and charged with all of this stuff and might go to prison, I don't think it's, somebody's not necessarily a fair weather friend because they are a little apprehensive about staying friends with you. Like, this isn't just, you know, Heather is talking about comparing it to, you know, when I went through my divorce, there were people that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. And I think Heather obviously was greatly impacted by what she went through with her divorce, but getting divorced is not the same thing as getting indicted on fraud charges. And I think that Heather, Heather needs to kind of compartmentalize a little bit more where it's like, you went through a tough time with your divorce. Jen's going through a tough time right now, but those tough times are not the same and they're not equal. And like Jen, you know,

assuming that she is guilty, allegedly, she brought this on herself. The government is not doing anything to her. They are holding her accountable for her own alleged actions. That's the best part about this where she's like, how could they do this? Like there's how, there's crime all of a sudden. You did it.

Like you, they didn't just like close their eyes and pick someone. Like you did what you're being. Right. As if the Department of Justice is like, honestly, Jen Shaw seems like kind of a bitch. I also don't understand how. And listen, she could be telling the truth with this. I personally do not believe that the phone call she got was not her. I think that is all bullshit.

Yeah. I mean, that's the whole thing where it's like, I don't even feel like, you know how sometimes things happen on shows like this that are so, you know, we're never going to have the, the 100% correct information there. You mean everything that happens on these shows? So I'm almost like, that's a thing where it's almost like, I don't care what she says about the phone call. At the end of the day, we know what happened 10 minutes later. So the specifics of who called her, I would like to know. But at the same time, I'm like, whatever she says, I don't know if I'm going to believe it. Girl, winter is so last season.

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That is... It's one of the most baffling things I can recall because it's this apology. If you haven't seen it, go, it's posted on Bravo by Matches' Instagram. It looks like a poorly designed wedding invitation. Like baby shower invitation with alternating fonts between this like little cursive font and this all caps block font on each line. And she's addressing the comments she made last episode to Lisa about the Mexicans that make the drugs and, you know, that whole alarming thing that she said. And it's just, I don't. Why the fonts?

Like, what's the, to get people's mind off of what you were saying? I am truly sorry. She said, I love you all. Hashtag apology. I truly think Mary, and it sounds like I'm making an excuse for her, and I don't mean to, but it's like she lives in a different world than the rest of us. And I don't know exactly where that world is or how that was constructed. But it is, it's like jarring because I truly think she just is like incapable of,

getting how normal people are. She even, like, said, she said it a few times, but again, last night, where she was, like, spent so much time not talking to people that she, like, started to talk to things in her closet. And, like, at one point, I don't think that's a joke. Like, she's actually, like, being serious. Like, it's a, like, she has taken a step back from social cues. And I think if we didn't, if Mary wasn't, you know, as sketchy and problematic as we know her to be, I think that would be really sad. And it's,

I mean, it still is kind of like sad to a degree. But, you know, instead of feeling bad for her, I almost feel like this woman is so out of touch. Like, she has spent so much time not living in the real world that, like, you can't function like that. There's like, you have to be, even if you're not reading the news every day and doing all of this stuff, it's like, I truly don't think she has like any frame of reference for like the real world. And so sometimes when she comes into this group, even though, you know, you could argue that most housewives don't really live in the real world, like even when she's interacting with somebody like, like Heather or Whitney, it's like, who is this woman? It's so strange. I know. I actually thoroughly enjoy talking

to Chris about Mary because he really lets all of his opinions out. But she said, last night, the more things I have, the bigger my heart. That doesn't even make sense because that means you're literally just giving away the things that you have, but not to be nice. It's almost like uncomfortable. Why are you giving out the expensive things you're buying? Because they're not, you're not buying them for people. You're just like kind of looking at what you have and then like figuring out who you can give that to. Right. Okay. So last week's episode, obviously I wasn't here. I watched the episode a little bit late. So I was seeing people posting. about the gifts that she gave. And I was like, oh, damn, she went to the store and spent all this

money. And then watching the episode, it's like, that's not, that doesn't count. You literally were just in your room and we're like, uh, what can I give to Meredith? Here, take this. What can I give to Lisa? Here, take these shoes. Like, that's not even, I mean, it's nice to give, to give your nice things to people, but that's not the same as like, I got you this gift. Right, like I picked this out for you because you would like it as opposed to I grabbed these on my way out because they wouldn't fit in my luggage. That's not. But like it's she also told the closet organizer like take what just if you see something you want, just like take it. Mary, no, that's stealing also.

It's so strange. Who are you going to turn around and be like, did you take my Chanel bat? Like I don't know. It's just her closet has so much potential to like what could be done with it. I said this last season, I was like, please let me. I just want to organize Mary's closet. Right. This girl, I want to see the before and after, but the key to organization is keeping it that way.

So I feel like she has to have all, she likes looking at her stuff. She said, it's like seeing her nice things, but, but she needs to, it needs to be organized. I'm so glad she took that next step. I really am. The mannequin heads need to go. Congratulations, Mary. You need to go. Yeah.

Well, let's see if she sticks with it. And also is that her story? like what's happening here with her. I know. She doesn't leave the closet this episode, but next week. We also have Whitney is rebranding her skincare line to Wild Rose Beauty. And it's a very costly rebrand. And I think, you know, she and Justin are, you know, having a little bit of a rough patch

because she's basically springing on him that they're like going to have to spend all their savings and it's going to be another $250,000 and, you know, they might have to take out a loan and all of this stuff. And I just don't understand why people on these shows are like so like bad at handling these money things. She literally said, I'm not good at money. Like, I'm not good at money. Like, like, I, I get that she like admits that, but that's a really big problem when you're starting a business. Also, during this conversation, she's wearing a hat and shirt that says Iris and Boe. And at the $20,000 photo shoot, everything there is Iris and Bo. And Jenny was there's no product. So what was the photo shoot? It was just like for you.

It was of you holding like flowers. Well, that was strange. She's like, I'm having my brand ambassadors be the models. And it's like, but what are they model? Like, are you modeling the fact that they have nice skin because they use your products? Because that's not like just taking lifestyle photos of, of good looking people. Is like, is like, you? the same as like a skin care line photo shoot. And I don't, you know, she said she spent $20,000 on the photo shoot. And I don't disagree with Jenny that it seems like that money could be better spent. And like she's not really, you know, she's missing some, you know, she's not checking all the boxes in a way that is going to get this done quickly and for, you know, a cost effective way.

Right. And I get Justin's perspective where he was like based on our eight, like he was basically saying like he's going to go first. And so he needs to make sure that all of his kids are okay and that she's okay. And if they legitimately at this point don't have a savings, like that's a problem. Huge. Right. And if they're getting loans that are going to take them X amount of years to pay off, Justin's going to be retired. You know, like there's you have to if you're doing these like long term financial solutions. Tom Schwartz should be listening and taking notes right now. I was just going to say they should have a meeting. Yeah, I mean, you really have to think about the ramifications. Are you like refinancing your home? Are you taking out lines of credit and like all of this stuff? Like it obviously there can be big returns on investment. Like maybe she's going to spend all this money and then Wild Rose Beauty is going to blow up and she's going to be a billionaire.

You never know. But like, you're hoping. You're really taking a gamble. And I think Justin was totally justified to feel like, why wasn't this run by me before it was the only option? Right. And listen to our money please podcast because we have no idea what we're talking about about loans and finances. I know. I'm acting as if I know what any of this means. We just say all the finance words and we're like home equity, loan. I'm really, I'm really just like their daughter Bobby who wants to eat her Chipotle in the kitchen and eavesdrop.

They were like, Bobby, go take a shower. I was like, oh. Yes, I love that. It's not just like, can you go upstairs? It's like, go take a shower. So my God. And she didn't even finish her bowl. It was sad.

I know. Like, poor kid. Yeah, like, that's so rude. I did love you making dinner. I made Chipotle. I made Chipotle. Wait, side note, I know we're going to talk about this Cameron after. But I did not know that he died.

Oh, he did. So Lisa was on Watched Happens Live last night. It was cringe, by the way. And she mentioned that he died and that it's really sensitive to talk about, which like I get. That's very upsetting. Like they were friends, but I had no idea. Oh, I didn't know that either.

And he's becoming such a topic of conversation. I know. Very sad. I will say I just watched the beginning of Watch What Happens Live. And I was sad because I thought Andy said Jennifer Lewis and I was excited, but it was Jeff Lewis. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm not a Jeff Lewis fan, got to say.

They didn't vibe. They did not vibe. Well, I feel like Lisa, every time she's done watch what happens live, God love her, but she treats it like a networking event. No joke. I'm telling you. She's like, yeah, Jeff, okay. So when it's the commercial break, we're going to talk about who we both know. And you're going to come to Utah and do a tequila event, right?

I said this last time she was on it. Like, she's awkward on the show. But whatever. Who doesn't love? You do flowers. I do tequila. It's flowers, tequila. Hey.

She looked great, though. She's like, Jeff, you're going to come through the flowers at Sundance this year. When Andy asks her question, I always hate when he knows that they're like bullshitting and just making up a star because he just like stares them. And she did that last night. Like a lot, even Jeff Lewis, like, sat there. She was just kind of beating around the bush and it was. But anyway, I do feel for these guests sometimes when they're coming on during their season. And there's like such major drama happening that it's like, Lisa can't just spill all the beans about Jen.

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Her hair looked better. Meredith's was a little, the like messy, the messy braid, but also like a full smoky eye. I'm like, where are we right now? Like what's the vibe? Also the light was hitting her hair weird. So like the coloring looked off. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, it just like, I think it was the lighting of the stables.

but everything's fine. It looked good with like a ringlight, but then when she was in like direct sunlight, it was like, this is a lot. You know, that's styling for a horseback riding day is very, very tricky. Lisa Vanderpump would know. But so Lisa and Meredith are kind of debriefing

after being back from Vail. It's probably, it feels like it's been like at least several days since they got back from their trip in this episode. Yeah. Like maybe a week has passed. But so Meredith is sort of frustrated on two fronts because she's mad that it took so long for people to believe her about Jen. Because, you know, the whole beginning of the season, Lisa was like, please give Jen a chance.

Like, Jen's great. She didn't mean anything about Brooks. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Meredith was like, I don't trust this bitch. And then Meredith is also angry about the way the Mary conversation went down because, for whatever reason, Meredith still feels extremely loyal to Mary and everybody else in the cast is on a varying level of thinking Mary is like a scammer. And so it's interesting that Meredith is kind of on opposite ends with Jen and Mary, where it's like, I was the first one not to trust

Jen and you should have been quicker. And then I'm the last one left that trusts Mary and shame on all of you for treating her this way. It's weird. Meredith is like, you don't have to listen to me, even though she basically is like, but I know what I'm talking about. But she's like, now that everything I was saying is true, she's like, and you still aren't like listening. Like it's weird. So now I feel like that's affecting Meredith trusting the other women too because she's like, why do I need friends who don't like aren't agreeing with me or listening to me? And she's the most level headed, Meredith. She is level-headed, but also... She's level-headed, but it feels like she's being almost a little bit of a hypocrite with Mary after the way that she talked about Jen.

Whereas, like, you have Lisa as being like, well, I'm asking more questions about Mary because we trusted Jen and then she fucked us over. So, I don't know. I mean, I feel like they're just kind of on different pages. but at the end of the day, it's like the truth is going to come out. You know, I feel like obviously it already happened with Jen. And I think with Mary, there is enough information online. Clearly, they're talking to Cameron and maybe other people that have personal experience with Mary. Like, I sort of feel like with Mary and her kind of whatever she has going on, the train has left the station.

It's just a question of, like, how much speed is it going to pick up? when is it going to arrive? But it sort of feels like it's already been set in motion. That reminds me of that like math word problem when we were younger. When we were two trains leave the station at the same time and one goes 80 and one goes 160, who's getting there first? If Mary's mannequin head leaves Boston traveling 400 miles an hour and the Shaw squad leaves Los Angeles traveling at 200 miles an hour, where will they meet?

And will it be Salt Lake City, Utah? Here's the thing, though, about, like, we also obviously know where, like, Heather Dubrow's money comes from, okay, not all of it, et cetera, but we've known she's had this lifestyle forever and it's like, organized, whatever. And I even said this last week, I wouldn't show. I don't know. I'm hesitant to show, but, like, you take one look at Mary's closet and you're like, um, what is everything doing here? Yeah. Like, I wouldn't show. I don't know.

Like, if I guess maybe she really doesn't think she's doing anything wrong. Like, not that you should ever question, like, where people's, but that's what happened with Jen. Like, look at and look, everyone was right. And it's almost with Mary, it's a little bit more strange to me because, you know, she says, I've always had money. I came from money. All this stuff. She inherited money.

But it's like, all of that money is theoretically still coming from the church or, like, church-related businesses. And I feel like that is more of a red flag than somebody like Jen. who had, you know, kind of a business that we didn't really understand, but it was like, it's a business. Okay, sure. I believe there are a lot of businesses that are lucrative that I don't understand. And so with Mary, it's like, she's like, you know, I've always had this money. And it's like, okay, but you are the pastor of a church. And there are people saying they have these bad experiences at your church. And it is like, it's hard to compute. And there have been other high profile

you know, pastors and ministers and stuff who have gone to prison for like taking money from their people. Like it's not something. It's something that we have like a, what's a precedent. We have a precedent of like shady religious leaders stealing money and Mary kind of fits that mold. And maybe there's maybe there's some misconception with her, but it's not hard to be like, this seems scummy. I don't. Right. And like exactly what you said. She does come from money she has, but it's just it doesn't look good. It's not painting a good picture. But it is funny. It will be funny if her castmates are the ones that like implode her. Like style. We're we're flying a little closer to the sun because Whitney talks to Heather and says that she spoke to Cameron and basically was like, tell me everything you told Lisa. She got his number from Angie. From Angie Harrington. I was like, uh. I know. I love.

It's all, there are like six people in Utah and they're all on this show in some way, shape, or form. But so now, Whitney is being coy about revealing this information, but she's basically saying, now that I have the information, I can tell Lisa, I know the information, so I know what you're withholding. So why are you not sharing the whole truth that you know? because Lisa has been, I think this was what was frustrating on that last night in Vail, was that it's like you're basically you're hinting at how you have all this information,

but you won't just come out and say it. And it's like, what's your reasoning for not saying it? Because if you didn't want to bring it up, then you should have not brought it up in the first place. But we always hate on these shows when people do that halfway thing, where they're like, guys, I know something about Mary. And then it's like, okay, what do you know? And it's like, I shouldn't.

I can't. I don't know. And it's like, you just, you just said that. You said that also because you want, you want people to know what you know. Right. It's like you want the attention, but you don't want to be the bad guy. And it's kind of like what Shannon was doing with that Nicole thing where it was like, where it was like, I, there's this lawsuit. But don't tell Heather.

Wait, what did Heather say? You know, don't shoot the messenger. Shoot the messenger. Well, I say shoot the messenger because if it's not in my world, I don't, it doesn't affect me. And I think Lisa is experiencing a little bit of that where she, she wants to be, she wants to get like credit on her housewife's resume for bringing this up. But in the moment, she doesn't want to be like the villain. And I think, but at the end of the day, it's like, Mary's the villain. just because Mary,

just because Mary is the one who acts offended when you bring it up in, in life, Mary's the villain. Correct. Dylan, it's exactly what we said last week, too,

what with Lisa, where she, like, Whitney brought up her name after she brought up the situation. And Lisa goes, what, what's happening right here?

What's happening? Because she, what's happening? What is this? Part of it, exactly. So, like, it sucks because I,

like, as much as I, want to like believe Lisa or whatever she's not painting a good picture and like it keeps happening so I feel bad if she is in fact like telling the truth and not part of it but it's not I can't like believe it I will say though I will say though I tried counting Lisa Barlow's last night and I slept like a fucking baby oh you one Lisa Barlow to Lisa Barlow she was like everyone needs that confidence. No joke. Like everyone.

She is one of those people where I truly think whether you love her, hate her, she is so fascinating and she is just born to be on reality TV because every single thing that comes out of her mouth is like, what? She is a, I don't want to put her as equivalent because she's not as bad, but she is almost like a brandy gland. if I say that. Like, we need that. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that type of housewife. We need it. I think she has her shit together more than Brandy ever did. Yes. But she has a similarly, I think she can be, like, delusional in a similar way to Brandy about, like, the way, like, the way, like, people work. I don't know. Right. Because, like, Brandy always was kind of, like, tragic.

And I think Lisa is like, at least as far as we know, like basically has her like life shit together. But the way she interacts with people in her friendships is kind of like, yeah. Because remember, this was so long ago now when we interviewed Brandy Glendville and she sat across in her living room like on the other side of the room in a robe. And we were like, we can't even see you. And she was like, hey guys. No joke. I think there's video of it somewhere on her Instagram. She sat like 10 feet away.

from the camera. And it's like, we're all on Zoom. Like, you're sitting at your computer. And she's like, she's like lounging on a couch. I love it. She's a good time. Brandy, we got little glimpses. Brandy, Tamara and Vicky all posted photos, um, doing their confessionals for girls trip. So it's happening. Yeah, Brandy had notes. Like blown up notes. I don't know for, like she brought them with her. I don't know. That is going to be very good. good television. Brandy told a story on her podcast, which I don't listen to, but somebody posted a clip of it. She told a story on her podcast that she had to be physically restrained from getting physical with someone at one point. I think like, I think she said Fadra held her back.

So I was talking about everyone I've been talking to who has watched girls trip or they've like, have you watched girls trip? Like everyone collectively has love really enjoyed the show. And I think this one was set up perfectly to, like, bring us into, like, this upcoming trip because it's like they did the OGs and they're going with the wild childs. Like, that's what I just, I'm calling it. Season one is, like, fun vacation movie. Season two is, like, horror movie in the woods. Like the Blair Witch Project. And time ready.

Yeah, it's like cabin in the woods, house on the end of the street. Like, it's happening. Okay, wait. Also, there's been something I've been thinking about for weeks that I wanted to share. So remember when we interviewed Andrea and he couldn't tell us about what was happening with pay. And remember then the next episode? I was like, Dylan, he said something was going to happen. And it's the finale and nothing happened.

With Paige and Craig. With Paige and Craig. So at that time, he couldn't tell us that he was going to be on summer. I like did this investigation in my head. He couldn't tell us that he was going to be on Summerhouse at that during our interview. So what he was referring to is that more things were coming in the next season of the three of them being on the same show. Because when the Summer House trailer dropped this week, you see Paige saying, like, I like in Andrea, but I also like Craig. So like that's what he was referring to.

And I just feel so good that I solved that for myself. I feel good about that, too. I'm glad Andrea's coming back. Me too. You know, he's the only winterhouse newbie who's going to be on Summerhouse. And I think that makes sense. I could have seen them bringing like Jason or Julia, but I don't think anybody else besides Andrea was really necessary.

If I were the new people on Winterhouse, I'd be a little offended that I was an ass and they brought two new people on Summer House. I know. It's like they got six episodes once and then it's just like probably never happening again. Yeah. But it is what it is. I mean Reality TV for you

Once upon a time Larsa Pippen was only on six episodes of a housewives show and then didn't come back and look at her now So thriving Back on Miami starts this week Oh my God

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