Mention It All - Inside The Actors Drew-dio Ft. Ryan Bailey (RHOA)

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

Fellow Bravo podcaster Ryan Bailey returns to the podcast, and he and Dylan start with their reactions to Ariana Biermann’s suspicious DUI over the weekend. They weigh Kim Zolciak’s future in the Bravo world, and then pivot to more current RHOA happenings. With the Jamaica trip heating up, they discuss Kandi vs. Marlo, Kenya’s low-key gaslighting of Sanya, and why Shereé can’t get her damn business off the ground. Finally, they both geek out over Drew’s sudden shift to being an acting coach. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, though. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.

I'm Dylan Hafer, and today I am joined once again by a friend of mine, a fellow Bravo podcaster. I'm so excited to have him back on the show. Please welcome Ryan Bailey. Hello. Hello, what up, mention it allers? Let's mention it all. It's a strong start. It's a strong start. It's a strong start to the week. It's Monday. We're here where we've got stuff to talk about. We're going to talk about Real Housewives of Atlanta, which I'm excited for because I, for various reasons, I haven't talked about it on here in a couple weeks. But we have some extraneous news that Ariana Bierman was arrested on suspicion of DUI this weekend, which is giving very pK the suspicion of DUI.

And they drove me to the police and then they drove me home. They rolled out the red carpet. Now, I'm curious, I don't, the whole suspicion of DUI thing. I, this is not something that I'm terribly familiar with. But it's like, I keep seeing suspicion of DUI. But then she was charged with three misdemeanors, driving under the influence of alcohol, improper slash erratic lane change and underage possession or purchase of alcohol. It's like, where's the suspicion?

Yeah. Did she, I think they were just being, I think they were being nice by throwing suspicion in there. But did you see her lawyer was like, this is not true? She is not, you know, like the lawyer went and like, I mean, lawyers do that. But it's hysterical to throw that out of like, yo, yeah, your kid did this. I'm sorry, but your kid did this, uh, accepted. And the PK thing is such a perfect example. I mean, by the way, all right, she was also hanging out with John Legend and Lionel Richie when she got her DUI this weekend.

I tweeted, which I'm probably going to hell for, I said the only thing Briel needed to blow was below a 0.08. Or who do I got a blow to see John Legend? I mean, did that be infamous tweet that Kim Zolziak did? Yeah. But I don't know, maybe Kenya tampered with the breathalyzer. So that's where the suspicion comes from. But it's, I mean, best of luck to the Zolsiak Bierman. I mean, by the way, they kind of need this heat to stay in the news.

Like, I like, I mean, come on. Like, we're talking about them again. Because if anything, like, Kim Zolziak's got to be campaigning for a girls' trip role at some point, right? Yeah, that's a funny thing because Kim, obviously for so many years was still in the Bravo conversation on some level because she had her own show. And then she, you know, popped up a couple seasons on Housewives again. But, like, that momentum really just went down to zero so quickly. quickly with the, I mean, even when Don't Be tardy was still on, I feel like the momentum was questionable. I think I'm the only one that watched that last season when they're in the

camping trailer going around the world or the US. And I, and weirdly enough, because it was during pandemic, it screwed all of my senses up. I was like, I think I like this. I think I'm into this. Well, I mean, you have to have some appeal to get like eight seasons of your spinoff. I'll give her that. But it does feel like that show was on the air, you know, within the last couple of years still. And I just feel like Kim has kind of fallen off the map. I hear so much more about various other former housewives than I do about Kim. I really don't think about her.

For a while, I felt like I was seeing a lot of her makeup line. She did swimwear. But now I'm like, I don't know what she's up to. Well, when you burn that bright, you're bound to burn out at some point.

It's like she's just, she comes around every 50 years like Haley's comet or something. And also the other thing we, And I saw her a bunch last week just because of her daughter and because of that Nini Leaks lawsuit that keeps bringing up Kim's name in it. So I was like, we're going more for the infamous than the aspirational. Yeah, it is funny, though, because like you said, I would imagine she would be interested in doing a girls trip. But unlike most of the people who were on this recent season of girls trip, I don't think she would, I can't imagine them ever trying to bring her back to Real Housewives of Atlanta again. It just seems like that is.

scorched earth not happening, shouldn't happen. Who would want that? But it brings up that interesting conversation, though, especially with like Tamara coming back and stuff, is that where, where do we draw the line? And, you know, from here on out, is it just stunt casting with these shows in a lot of ways? Instead of finding new relationships, new ladies, do we now just, you know, because we have such a rich catalog and history of housewives, do we just pick from them for the rest of these seasons?

Or do we actually try to bother it to introduce? Like, that's why I appreciate Atlanta. at least they're actually bringing, and we're getting to know their families. You know, like we get to know full, I think Atlanta does this the best than any of the other franchises right now.

I was actually, when you said that, obviously we're talking about Atlanta today in general, but I was thinking as I was watching this week's episode that I really feel like Sonia feels like part of the group. There's no vibe to me that's like, oh, it's this new girl

and they're pretending to all kind of, know each other. I'm like, no. I feel like her and Drew actually, I feel like have both done a really good job of kind of feeling like they belong there. And I think Atlanta was a show where for a long time, the cast had these heavy hitters where it was really difficult for a new person to actually kind of step up to the plate because you had Porsche, you had Kenya, you had Nini, you had, you know, Fadra or Candy or Cynthia. Like there were all of these kind of longstanding, you know, pillars of the Atlanta community. And then it would be like, oh, like, okay, like, I don't know if like Shamari is really,

you know, getting in there and making an impact. She's not the only one. But it's, I think it's exciting to see, actually, that we have two newer cast members who actually make sense in the group and feel like they could potentially stick around. Well, I think that, and that's what they do a really great job of. And I got to say from an audience's perspective, I don't know if everybody's like this, but I think you are, is that I don't, you know, with other new cast members on other franchises, I tend to get really annoyed really quickly or even just like Real Housewives of Jersey where,

you know, we barely saw Tiki's wife the entire, like, I mean, just didn't even make a dent, really. But these, I don't get annoyed watching them. Like, I kind of dig watching their family lives. I kind of dig watching Drew's Drop It with Drew. I kind of dig watch. I mean, like, I actually like that. And the excitement that she had showing all, not Drew,

showing all the ladies where she had trained in track this week and had, I mean, I like that. Usually I would find that so annoying, but for some reason, I totally dug it. Yeah, I think with Drew, there's kind of this pure energy where I think at this point, it's happened enough times that it really is just what she does and how she is naturally, that she will come on the show and be so earnestly excited about something or so just, like, wanting to show it off and then it goes completely sideways or ends up being completely embarrassing for her. And she's like, what? Like, I was just, I wanted to, like, it happened. Obviously, like, her whole marriage with Ralph is just like a conundrum. His step parenting book

that's happening right now that she is being asked to write the forward for, but is not allowed to even know what's in the book about her family. And then it's like the drop it with Drew, the, you know, everything that she has going on just as like falls a little flat, including this week when she's like, I was a track star. You know, they call this the Olymp I was an Olympian because my school was the Olympians. And so I was an Olympian. And so like, obviously I'm going to do really good. And then she loses to Marlowe and then tears her Achilles again. She doesn't even tear the Achilles in the race. She actually steps to the side and tears her Achilles. And by the way, that was the first time I truly believed in Drop It Withrew because she dropped immediately. And it was so. And then I just love, there's like a loose, a Lucille ball element to Drew. Like there's a Lucy and Desi kind of thing. And I don't necessarily mean that as a compliment because I think we're, we've kind of grown out of the Ralph being the Desi like,

oh, you're crazy, Drew. Like, you know, she's kind of talked down to a lot. I mean, and tease. I mean, in terms of even the wig like, oh, your, your wig's going up or last week. Just wild stuff. But like, also can you tell me the book he's like, I put the step in parenting. And I'm like, on its face, that sounds good.

If you start to think about that, what does that really mean? I put the step in parent. I know step parent, but there is no step in parenting, you do. Like it does, I mean, you know what I'm saying? It just doesn't. Yeah. It really irked me last night for some reason. No, I literally, I wrote down in my notes.

I'm like that I, you put this, you put the step in. But then it's, it's like. And he's saying that he thought he had all the answers. But then he realized that he didn't. have all the answers, which is why he's writing the book. And it's like, you're not really selling this very well because I believe that you have experience. But like, I don't want to read the book from somebody who says, I don't have the answer. What is the first eight chapters of just every time he's messed up and stuff? Like, I mean, like, wait, so we have to read your journey

of not knowing what the hell you're doing. Like, how does that help me? Like, I'd rather read a, like, step by step go to guide instead of like, I had no clue. I have. I have no clue. I have. I don't. I really screwed this kid up for the first couple of years. And then we got on track. He starts, yeah, like he starts the book. He's like, let's be clear. I am not an expert. By the way, the audience, we don't even need to have that sentence. We know, Ralph. We know. I have no knowledge to impart on you, which is why for the next 200 pages. It's like, I mean, I really do appreciate, though, that Ralph and Drew have given us a lot of entertainment over the last two seasons. I don't know if it's healthy.

I don't know if they are. Oh, I think it's absolutely not healthy. I mean, like, I sometimes hope that these shows are relatively fake, even though I'm, you know, I know that a lot of it is completely real. But like, some of them have been so awkward that I would like, like compare it to like, like my favorite episodes of the office where I'm just like, are you kidding me? Like, really? This is what you're doing at this dinner, this anniversary.

You know, there's always like Ralph is just so caught up in Ralph that he never. And the fact that we're supposed to believe that was the first time that even drew heard that forward. Like, you're writing a book about her son and she's not even mentioned in the intro. That was the other thing that blew me away of like, well, my wife, you know, and I love her so much. Like, she's not even mentioned in that supposed intro. And then everybody around is like, hell yeah, man, great intro. Like, they're all like, yeah. And then he goes, I'll put the step and step parenting.

And everybody was like, oh, no, he goes, I put the step in parenting. And everyone was like, wow. That's amazing. Yeah, Marlowe was like, damn, you do know how to write. I, yeah, I mean, not to get too into the weeds with the step parenting thing, but last week when they were talking about him not wanting to formally adopt Josiah. Yeah. Which is obviously something that Drew wants. And I feel like half of Drew's time on this show is spent just like making herself small and like not raising too much of an issue with him.

And it's when he's like, well, it's just a piece. of paper, I'm like, it's literally not. Like, adopt, there are, I mean, there are certain things where it's like, oh, it's a formality, it's a technicality. It's like, adopting a child is not just like a formality. Like, there are all sorts of things that come along with that and like permissions and ramifications and stuff. And like, if that's not the right move for them at this time, that's, it is what it is.

But I'm like, don't try to like downplay this into something where it's just like, man, we don't need that silly piece of paper. I'm like, no, that actually affects a lot of things. I mean, just even, and including the emotional baggage of that child as they grow older even. And I know his actual dad is in his life and that's what Ralph had mentioned. But I don't know, it just seems so off to me. But Ralph seems so off to me. Ralph seems like he's, you know, put together.

He thinks of himself is put together so well. But I feel like inside he's hanging on by a thread at all times. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it is one of those things where the longer they stay on the show, I'm like, something's got to give at some point, you one would think. Like there's never, because there's never been a meaningful actual, like, improvement or step forward between them. It's like, okay, we're not going to fight about it right now.

It's like, well, do you ever feel like that about this show, too, is that everybody, I think, and I think Beverly Hills had a lot to do with this of people's expectations. Like, oh, we don't have a full on crime on Atlanta. so they're not having a good season. But I'm like, I think they're having a great season. And it's also a building season where if they keep this group of ladies, maybe not Marlowe, but the rest of them in two seasons, we're going to see explosion. I mean, we're going to see something so worth its while.

And I already love right now. I love it right now. But I think the sum of its parts is going to explode in two seasons because it's all about these ladies. They're getting in each other's groove with the new people. And it's not like the past of like these kind of, you know, going in gangbusters and Porsche and all of this stuff. But I love what it is, but I love when Bravo lets something build.

Yeah, I agree. I think this season has been really enjoyable for me to watch. And not in a way where I'm like every week my mind is being blown and I'm, you know, racing to Twitter because I have 10,000, you know, scenes to, you know, whatever. But like, I am enjoying it a lot. And I think there are really great moments happening and connection. forming and also thinking about kind of explosions and whatever, I think Candy has maybe had one of her most dramatic seasons in terms of with the other women in the group. She's had major issues this

season with Kenya and with Marlowe. And I think that's an interesting thing that kind of is, I hope they unpacked it a lot at the reunion. I can't imagine they didn't. But that it's like, the stuff that's going on with Candy and Marlowe this season is pretty deep and intense. Well, I mean, Candy is coming in there, and I say this in like all complimentary is like, she's like a grizzled veteran. She's like, you know, she's like, who's that guy, you know, the lethal weapon character, not Mel Gibson, but the Danny Glover where it's like, I'm too old for this. You know, like literally she's been there from the beginning and she's had to put up with thing after thing after thing. And when Marlowe steps it, you know, it's like Marlowe, I mean, the great experiment of Marlowe doesn't really turn. out for me to be that rewarding. And now I see maybe why she was kept as a friend of for so long

because maybe that special sauce is what was amazing about Marlowe. But when you ramp it up to this, she's on a different level in terms of like just gear shifting than all of the other ladies. And that's annoying as hell for candy. Like, and also, how dare you tell Candy that she is not world? Like, the candy truly is worldwide. What are late that has successfully conquered so many different businesses. I mean, like, I mean, Sheree can't still get even like some samples out there. And like, this lady's done 10 billion things. And for Marlowe to come at her and, it boggles my mind. Sherey saying that she has downgraded her fashion show to a fashion to a fashion presentation so she can keep the expectations low. I'm like, are you what? Are you

fucking kidding me? I mean, at this point, it's like, how many years has it been now? How many I mean, we're talking over a decade that we have been promised she by Shiree. And the thing is, all the fans, I'm not even a woman. I'm ready to buy some women joggers just to support. I will do, I want to support. But the fact that you can't get this even off the ground after all this time, all this opportunity, it truly scares me. Like, how does this much?

I mean, I haven't seen something like this since Sonia's toaster oven, but even that was, you know, like Sonia went on to other things and you kind of forget. gave Sonia for it, but Shiree, it's her whole thing. Like, this is like snuff-a-luffigis from Sesame Street? Will it ever exist? Do we just, is this just imaginary? And everybody lets her, like, kind of talk to her imaginary friend, you know? Well, right.

You're not going to have to buy the women's joggers because there are going to be allegedly men's joggers that leave you with TV. Dylan, I don't believe she's going to get to the men's joggers. I believe if anything, it's going to be the women's joggers. And that's going to probably, and maybe a t-shirt that. You're like, if, if I want to support, financially, I need to buy the first product that comes out because there's not going to be another one. Dude, I'm such a, I'm saying, see, that's like, that's the only, like, that's the weirdo kid in me is that you can tell when I really like something is that I immediately look for merch.

Like, I'm immediately like, I need something to show people how much I love this. Like, I have the weirdest crap in my, my, my, I mean, like, I went to the Tom Gerardi auction last year. Like, I mean, I want, I want to, these things truly mean something to me. So I've been waiting for she by Sherey forever, which I've always said, even with the go back. the Sonia Toaster Oven. Sonia, if you're listening, don't sell the oven. Sell the box. I just want the box. I'd pay $50 for that box. You don't have to put anything in it.

I just want the toaster oven box with your face on it. Like, I would buy that. Yeah, I mean, it is crazy to think about truly with She by Shirei. As far as we know, the only thing that's really involved in it is like putting a logo on some sweatpants. Like, dude, we've both sold merch. I'm sure at certain point. I have a web story. Yeah.

It's, it's not the easiest thing in the world, but it's not like, you can throw something up on threadless tonight, you guys. If you have an idea, you could literally put it out there tonight. Now, I don't know, like I feel like somebody's lying to her or she's, but then I get deeper with it. I'm like, is it just fear? Is she scared of not succeeding? Is it, is it deep fear?

Well, and it's, and then I'm like, okay, so maybe it's supposed to be like a full clothing collection, but why? Why would she do that? And then she's, you know, Kenya and Manetta are like fake auditioning for the show. And she's like, well, it's not like a video ho kind of fashion show. I'm like, what is it? Yeah. How do you know what it is? We don't know what it is. How do you even? I feel like she's like, I know I don't want that. But I mean, we started off the season with, what is it, Le Archive from Marlowe. And now it's like, dude, you're even let Marlowe get her stuff off. And like, Sherey, for this opportunity, you should have been ready. Like, who is managing you?

You should have been ready because this is prime time advertising, you know? Yeah. And like, Candy got her bitch I'm worldwide merch out like an hour after the episode. And Marne. And Sherey's like. Looks cool. It doesn't look bad. Like, I'm saying that you can do it that quickly.

It's why. Sherey's like twiddling her thumbs at the fabric stores. Like, how do I do it? You know what? This isn't the fabric for she buys. Like, I mean, she must just be hand-touching. every piece of fabric at Zarin Fath, or wherever they go to check those things. Maybe she's at mood.

Mood. Mood. With Tim Gun. Designers. Sure. We need to get Cheri on project running every like 30 minutes at mood. And that's all she gets. That way we can just get a garment on the runway.

That is brilliant. If Annie could do that or like just like maybe not even go there, but have Tim Gunn show up on Atlanta and go, go, Shri, we're doing this today. We're doing this. You are not coming out of this room until we do it. And like that would be amazing too. I feel like Bravo does need to.

It's like helping football players after they're injured and like retired and stuff like that where you need to watch out for these people. Let's set Shiree up for life, you guys. Like, Bravo, let's take care of her. Let's make her do this line. Shiree, if one thing is happening here today, we're putting a pant on that model. We're getting a garment. we're getting a garment down that runway if it's the last thing we do.

But wouldn't it be amazing if like all this time she's completely telling the truth about everything and when it does come out, it puts it like changes the world. Like it's like the jogger that is the like that people have lived for. And then she starts a whole skims thing and takes down Kim Kardashian. Like what if it really truly,

she really is sitting on something so amazing? I feel quite confident that that it's not the case. Yeah, yeah. No, I know. It would be cool if she, like, all of a sudden drop this whole thing of like, here you go, guys, and we all shut up, you know?

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And she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The video, the clip of her, like, like opening the door to the balcony, stepping out, seeing the water, taking pictures. It's like, oh, my, like, this would be such a frustrating person to travel with, but at the same time, I am so entertained. I mean, it's Kenya. I mean, this is, by the way, this is a classic trope on Howeswives is showing up on time. Or, you know, you have to read when she used to do the glam and take the pictures and all that stuff.

But Kenya especially, and by the way, Kenya is looking so beautiful this season, like insanely gorgeous to me. I mean, just like, but the like I think it's hysterical. I love that the producer shaded her with the caption underneath. Like, what was it? What did they say? It was like Kenya not, Kenya taking her time. Yeah. Yeah.

It was like, I love that, but I also love, which is I think classic Kenya or just classic housewives in general is her using her divorce as the. excuse for lateness. And it's like, well, what was the excuse for the rest of the seasons or what was the, like, I love like, I studied acting. And like, tat to me is just the, the quickest reversal of a tactic of like saying, okay, I need to find something. I'm going to reverse and I want pity. And that will get me out of this one. Like it's really, I mean, it just, I love when I see these ladies switch gears. She's like, she's like, well, actually I was late to the ice cream shop in the plantation, which is, I don't know about that.

But she's like, I was late to the ice cream. I was two hours late to the ice cream shop because Brooklyn's dad is being a dick. It's like Brooklyn's not even in the country with you. What? How old is Brooklyn? Brooklyn at this point must be like three. Okay. I mean, that was the thing she said.

And Brooklyn doesn't want to talk on the phone with her dad. Like Brooklyn's three. Like Brooklyn probably doesn't want to be talking to anybody on the phone for like over a certain amount of time. I mean, unless Brooklyn, is just the, I mean, I'm not saying she's not, I mean, she, you know, has to be genius levels to actually be able to sexualize and emotionalize like that divorce. Tread lightly here. You're going to get like a tweet about how Brooklyn has like a genius level like you already. Oh my God. Kenya, if you're watching, I love you.

By the way, also, can we normalize Dylan? Like, you can actually be critical of a moment and still love an overall housewife or anything in art. Like, I think that's the other ridiculous thing too is like we see, we talk about what we see, but it doesn't. take away my overall love of any of these ladies, except for Lisa Rina. Fair. I feel you on that one. But, right. And when Sonia is confronting her about the tardiness, Kenya just fully gaslights her. And it's like, well, this is the first thing that you've planned that I've been late to.

And it's like last night, earlier today, just now. It's like, Kenya, this is a losing, this is a losing argument for you about the tardiness. but then the timing issue goes a step further the next day when Sonia has given the ladies the option, the open invitation to come check out her eye fit filming thing. And so Marlowe makes it on the bus at 9.30 and Kenya and Choray are like inside the hotel, seemingly at the same time that the bus is about to leave. But for whatever reason, they don't make it on the bus. and they think that it is some great slight to them

that Sonia isn't picking up the phone and hasn't like followed up with them about how to get on the bus. And like I just feel like if Marlowe figured this out that there was definitely a way that Kenya and Shiree could have figured this out because it seems like they were ready on time. Yeah.

Well, do you ever think though that like producers like, oh, you know what, don't call or do call or don't call? I mean, like there seems to be so much minutia with phones. And I was just noticing this on Beverly Hills the other day and Southern Charm as well. It's just like let's maybe get rid of like a phone rule entirely where, you know, we set up the schedule, you follow the schedule, you don't, but let's not do the texting or the FaceTime or like I'm I'm paying my good, hard earned money to watch ladies do scenes

with each other and I do not want to be using. I use the phone every day in my all day life, but like all the texting back and for them, like why don't we just publish this as a book then, you know? Right. Right. It's like Kenya six minutes ago. Heading down to lobby now. Like, we got a time frame. It kind of plays into the thing of like show, don't tell.

It's like, show me. Show me Kenya being late. Don't like, don't give me the text conversation of like Kenya, you are late. And by the way, there is plenty of footage of her actually being late. Like that's what I mean, I hate to be. I mean, we just watch these shows so much. And, you know, this is like consumed in my life. But I do get tired of, uh, just the constant treating the audience like we don't, like,

we know what's going on. Like the audiences are so, especially bravo audiences. So many of them are so smart that we don't, I mean, we don't need to see flashback on a flashback on a flashback on a flashback. Like it's, it's so it's like guys, I can see that she is like I'm, my brain can put this together. I can also remember the scene that you just showed me 10 minutes ago. I can also remember it is just wild how, like, if you cut out phone calls and flashbacks to a lot of these Housewives shows, I'm telling you, you get a 22 minute episode. Yeah, I think the flashbacks are a double-edged sword because I think it can be helpful and it can also be really funny.

Like, because if they're trolling, yes. Right. If somebody says, oh, I've never done that in my life and you cut back to six seasons ago when they did that. Oh, I mean, Chena Shea suffers that all the time on Banderpump Rules. They kill her every season with all those flashbacks. I like the trolling aspect of it. I just don't like when they're showing it. And it's not funny.

You know, and it's not. And I'm just like, okay, yeah, I've seen. I've seen, like, you know, they do that on Beverly Hills so much. I just noticed it was just like the Lisa like, okay, I get it. Yeah, the Reno Rose. I got it. I saw that conversation a billion times now. Right.

Right. Like, I don't need to like, I don't need a reminder that they went to province three years ago. and like, drank wine. I was like, yeah, show, show Kyle doing Teddy's walk again when they were all drunk and the, I mean, like, I get it. I get it. I mean, I sound like such a grumpy old, I am a grumpy old man, but I am starting to really get annoyed.

I'm sorry, you got. I'm annoyed with myself. No, but it is one of those things where this, this lateness spirals and, you know, Marlo and Marlowe and Sonia end up having a really nice conversation that wherever they're shooting this eye fit thing is just absolutely lovely. I want to be in this field with the table and just hanging out. But Kenya and Choray take this like deeply personally. And Choray has a little talk about it with Sanya.

And that seems okay. But then at dinner, it's just like for some reason, like this is what we're starting World War III over. Like did Kenya really want to go that bad to, to, to, I-Fit, photo shoot? It's, it's, like, weird to me. I'm like, why do you care this much? I mean, this is the perfect time to get into a fight with your ex. If you want to, like, be sad about it, do it during this time?

Like, do you know how happy I am when I don't have to go to something? Like, it is like the eye fit thing. You know, Marlow was just standing offside going like, oh, amazing. Like, Kenya wouldn't do that. Kenya, Kenya is a star. Like, Kenya's not going to sit there and like, she'll be like, oh, cute. I've seen filming before. I mean, by the way, on top of it, they're filming their own reality show.

now. So it's not like cameras are like, oh my God, more cameras. It's not like they're that impressed by this, even though I would, you know, spokesman's great. I just don't think, I think it was a convenient something for Kenya to be upset with because she was called out for being late, obviously. Yeah, I would, here are my two guesses. If Kenya had shown up to the eye fit thing, she either would have tried to get in the video or she would have, or she would have called it low budget. I love Marlowe seeing Sonia's rack of clothes and that's what really impressed. Like, oh, all these are for you. All these are small. I know that's all these are. I'm starting to appreciate Atlanta. Like I used to appreciate old school New York where it's like the minutia of

these conversations, these little moments like that or even like Marlowe's just, Marlowe racing and the Blentziaga and the boobs just falling out and her stuffing them back in. And like it's just like, Those little moments to me make these shows where I don't need, I don't need something. I don't need, you know, people stealing from the elderly. I don't need, you know, California law to be on trial. But I do need these little moments. And I think Atlanta, if you truly watch it without your, like, put your phone down and watch it, I think you're going to be super pleased with it, you know?

Right. Marlowe in her like, Balenciaga underwear when the minister of sports shows. up and she's like, let me go put my clothes back on while this woman is here. And I love, because this is right after Drew fell, and Drew was like, and I'm on the floor. And I'm on the, and I'm on the ground. And I was like, this is so, you know, like, Drew really is that Charlie Brown type character, you know. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session.

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and the scene of candy going to visit Drew, I called her Peg Leg Drew in my notes, because that just seems like that's kind of the vibe at this point. And she's like, Candy's like, oh, like, I have a favorite ask of you. I have an audition and I thought you could like help practice with me.

And this would be the perfect thing. And Drew goes into her like method acting mode. She's like, right, right, right. Okay. So here's the thing. When I'm acting, you got to have your like five whatever's laid out.

And have you ever heard of Uda Hagen? Okay, Uda Hogan's this lady. She was an actor. And you got to think about. where are you? What's in the room? What are you smelling?

What does the room look like? Is there noise? Is it loud? What's your volume? And Candie's like, Candy's like, I really just wanted you to say the lines. I mean, okay.

Like I said, I mean, I think we both studied theater at a time. Like I went to, and like, you guys, Uda Ha, the chances I think I would ever hear

the name Uda Hogan on Real Housewives of Atlanta was negative zero. Like, Uda Hogan, famous acting teacher, but even like a very specific acting teacher. Like I'm like, oh my God, is Southern Char I'm going to bring up Sanford Meisner? Are we going to get Stanislovsky up in this?

Or are we get? And so I heard that. I was like, no. And then you know immediately like Candy is a workhorse, man. Candy is there. Like she said, my coins come before vacation. And she's there to learn her lines. And I coach actors.

I used to do that for a living. And so it's like, yeah, this is what I would go in and coach an actor. But I don't as a coaching technique go, you know, like the great Stanislavski once said, you know, like, or I need you to read a respect for, you know, a respect, you know, any of those books that I was like, had to grow up on studying. But it was because, yeah,

Candy's like, just tell me my thought behind the line. Tell me what, how I should, am I saying it too mean? All that stuff. I just love that you, you're not going to get into a method in a 30 minute coaching session.

I mean, truly, like, like Drew's over here, like, Alya Kassan, like giving her, giving her like her intention.

That is the kind of thing where I'm like, Drew is so damn funny. Like she just, she just kills me. But wouldn't it be amazing if she did then? Like she has the cane from hurting her foot. And she's why, like,

and she actually truly becomes one of those acting teachers we see on TV. They always have like something wrong with them like that stop them from acting. So she's like hobbling around. And she's like, no, you're not saying it correctly. What do you feel, Candy?

What do you feel? Okay. Maybe if, if we're saying, sending Shiree on Project Runway, maybe Bravo should reboot inside the actor's studio with Drew Sedora as the host. We, you know, what do you want the first thing God to say to you when you arrive in heaven? What's your favorite curse word? No, candy.

Well, Drew, now it made me, last night made me want to go back. I've never seen anything that Drew's done acting wise. And now I want to check it out because I want to see if she's using. Like, I want to see if I'm like, oh, I can tell she's smelling something in this scene. Like, I can tell, like, I want to see what her method is done for her acting work, you know? I have seen Step Up numerous times, which, but not since I knew who Drew was. Like, I saw it a lot when I was younger, but I won't pretend that I was like, oh, Drew, the girl from Step Up is on Housewives now. Like, I was like, oh, she was in that movie.

Oh, she was that character. Oh, good. Good for her. She said it made $400 million, which was not true. By the way, Step Up is, Titanic was like the number, and then Step Up was right behind it. I think Step Up eventually, if they re-release,

it will take over Titanic's box office. I mean, Avatar did so well, and then it's getting a lot of sequels. Step Up also got a lot of sequels. That's what we need the Step Up extended universe, or maybe a Step Up multiverse of some sort, or, I mean, I'm all for, I'm all for that. step up the way of water coming to Peters this December.

We've digitally created all of the characters except for. Oh my God. But I mean, yeah, you just can't get mad at Drew when she's like, when she's like talking about acting techniques to candy. I really can't say mad at her. I was like a pig and shit. I was smiling ear to ear. I was like, this is so unex. This is what I'm telling you.

This is what I love about this. Like, I would never have thought going in that I would ever see a scene like that. And it just checked all my boxes just for how I grew up. And I was like, this is amazing. This is just incredible. And I would have loved to have seen the producers go, who to who? Like, wow. Like, I want to know, I want to see her do this more with Candy.

I want to see them continue coaching with each other. Right. Like as she's going to like Pastor Jeff for therapy or whatever, she can also be Candy's acting. Yes. Like I do think it's fun to get these. moments of like these women all have a lot going on they have their side hustles and stuff but it's like Drew going into like actress mode is something that I'm like I'm down to see that more like I think seeing the different like I don't want to just see her struggling with her marriage I would like to see her

you know Drew is is an interesting one because she came on the show talking a really big game about this career but then I don't other I mean this season she's been focused on drop it with Drew and it's like that's not the career I care about for you. Like I want to hear about. I thought you were going to be affiliated with at all. Like I didn't realize that that was even on the horizon. And that's why, but that's another great housewife thing of like,

wow, drop it with Drew. Like that's amazing. That's, it's, it really is. It's catchy for the audience. And it's something that we can like bandy about in a joke fashion.

Yet she's trying to commit to it. But that is not how you're right. That is not how she came in. I truly thought she was another. I mean, remember the first season when Kenya came in and that was another thing of like the acting, you know, she's going to be, you know, I'm huge as well. And I thought, you know, they always do come in so strong, coming so hot. And then they stabilize. I mean, I would

love to see a Bailey agency out of Drew, you know? Yeah. I mean, she was, Kenya was like producing that pilot back in the day that was going to be her like big TV show. Yes. But I mean, whatever. Then you're doing like the workout tape and the hair care. And it's like, yeah, whatever. I don't, as long as I have something to talk about, I don't really care. I mean, I wonder, I mean, is that, I know we don't know too much. It's, it's better not to know, I find, but I do wonder if they're like, you guys all have to have one business before coming in this season. You don't have to have it done. I'm looking at you sure, but we need you to have one business just so we can focus on.

Because we feel that with a lot of these shows. Even with like, Van der Pumper was like, you know, they're having Schwartz and Sandys and they're having to, like, I wonder what the requirements are to, you know, almost assure the producers that at all, if everything fails, at least. least we have this to focus on. Yeah. I mean, I think it's probably a little bit of a two sides of, you know, it goes both ways where like, I'm sure there's an internal thing of like self-consciousness of like, I don't know if I have enough going on. I don't know if the people are going to have, you know, maybe I'm going to be demoted or I might not have enough to kind of like make people talk about me this season. But then maybe it's, it is coming from production too that it's like, okay like you know

Dolores like what are you working on this year checking in like share time let me know kindly following up on the below like what because I think yeah you're right like obviously there are some of these businesses that are like intended to be successful but then there are probably just as many if not more that are like the success of this will be if it is compelling on the show

yeah and maybe maybe it'll maybe you'll do like an initial drop and get a lump sum of money or something to cover your costs. But like most of these businesses, it's like this isn't like your retirement fund. I have an idea though. Like, okay, so they have Costco. What if we have like Brovco and we put every product that any housewife has ever done in Brovco. And so you can sell the Rina Rose. You can sell the Lisa Vanderpump Rose. You can sell the toaster oven. You can sell She by Shreveh. Every shitty or good product goes into Bravo fans of all, you know, like, I mean, sure, maybe even regular people want these products too, but it's a place for Bravo fans to go and just get everything. Just get every, like,

every Bravo product is there. And it would actually be a fascinating museum as well. They sell all 500 attachments for Leon Lockins, Ellen Finity dress. Right, Liam, we could probably get Leanne to like fully work there full time, you know. She can have a whole room that's just like random sleeves and scrap. of fabric that somehow attached to that dress. I miss the dress. That was the pink dog food. Dallas had some good business ventures.

Yeah. The dog poop poop pink. Yeah. They just don't make them like sparkle dog in the L infinity dress. But Renna Rosee, I guess, sure. They can be in the bravco too. Wait, am I mistaken, though, I'm sorry with the Renner Rose.

never thought that was even on the horror like Rina doesn't even like I don't even think of Rina really as a quote unquote drinker or somebody that is like I think of Harry is somebody with like a like Harry even seen during that scene of like oh yes we need a little bit more work on this and I feel like Rina's more of the slap my name on it you know like I don't feel like she's a drinker even to appreciate that in the way it should be absolutely that came out of left field for me when she posted about it on Instagram like right before the episode last week I was like huh is this like is this new and it's going to be on next season then I was like oh it's tonight's episode like okay and and then all the women in the group are like oh yeah you've been

working on this for so long it's like the photo of Kylie Jenner in the makeup lab you know like really renner are you in provence tasting the gray you know like you know and all it was was that that scene in provenz somebody said renna rose and that was like light bulb you know and somebody probably brought her that idea and she was like hell yeah do you I get I get some money. Let's do this. She's like, okay, so I can get $300,000 doing diapers again, or I can keep my dignity and maybe still make some money doing Rose.

I guess this time. I've already, you know, Amelia and Delilah aren't going to college. So I guess I will pass up the diaper money this time. By the way, if anybody sees Amelia, let's get her to stop dying the eyebrows. I want brows. I just, I know that's so picky, but I mean, Rina, that's a good idea. I might do that on my show is use some of Rina's, uh, depends diapers and drink Rina Rosei until I have to relieve myself in said diapers.

Like maybe that would be a fun act. I mean, we could all do it at home. It would be fun. Yeah, I think that would get you flagged on some, some list. Oh, I'm already. I'm flagged, baby. You're like, oh, who's, who's Ryan Bailey? Oh, yeah, he's the guy who like, tease himself.

drinking Renner-Rose. I mean, because I can do like serious interviews and something like that, but it is funny because if you send somebody to my Instagram account or something like that, you know, they're like, who is he okay? Like, this doesn't seem all right. And I'm like, it just is funny when like somebody actually meets me compared to what they think I am online or if I do a silly bit or something. It's amazing.

Well, speaking of silly bits, I was DMing you to set this up. And your display name on Instagram is currently Ryan, Jennifer Lynn Affleck. I wanted to celebrate somebody's change of name. And before that, it was Ryan Kardashian Barker to celebrate Courtney. And before that, it was just Ryan Kardashian-Gener. And I like to celebrate. But I don't know, for some reason, it's kind of like the minutia of Atlanta. Those things like those little name chases and stuff like that makes me, it just makes me laugh, not laugh.

I mean, I know it means something to them, but the fact of Jennifer Lopez changing her. You know, like, I just thought that was, it was so interesting. And what a journey that they have had together. over the last 20 years and to, you know, wind up married. I don't know. I wanted to celebrate it somehow. And I'm always looking, you know, for the next name change that is based around pop culture.

Well, and your, your Twitter name is currently an ode to gone but almost forgotten OC housewife, Jennifer Armstrong. Armstrong. Yeah. So Ryan Bailey on Twitter. Ryan. Yeah. R.

Y and E. That was, you see, that's those minutia moments like are what I will remember. remember Ryan for the rest of my life. And she's like, no, no, not Ryan. And, you know, the way he committed. And the fact that this guy, you guys, if you don't watch OC, changed his name as an adult. Like, you know, deep into his 20s or 30s even, I think changed his name from Ryan to Rhine. And I just think what, what an interesting journey that must have been for him. And how do you take him seriously if you're married to him or have kids with him of like, no, I'm serious about it. I want to change my name to Rhine. Like that's a, and it's like, fascinating. If you're serious about it, like, take your ass down to the courthouse

and, like, change it. Don't be like, actually people call me Ryan. Like, I grew up with this girl who her name was Emily spelled E, M, I-L-Y,

and she just, like, liked it better to end with an I-E. So she would, like, write on all her papers and, like, stuff like, E-M-I-L-E. But then it's like, if you don't actually change your name,

then you're always going to have the, like, embarrassment of being, like when it's something official being like, oh, actually it's like, it's like the normal way. It's like with the why. Actually, I'm not French or anything. It's just Emily. But also I feel like like why even give why even put that out there, Ryan, in the universe where it's like now I'm thinking like should I change my name?

Are we all allowed to change our names now? And like I'm like some things we just got like just like that was the name. I was let me just stay with that name. Like I don't want to be like I want I like absolutes in life. I don't like everything's so. uncertain that I like certain things where I'm like, okay, that is locked in stone. And Ryan just blew my mind because I'm like, my name's not even locked in stone. I can change my name next week if I wanted to. And that's also why Bravo, I really want them to institute a law where you nobody,

everybody gets two seasons. They're locked into a two season deal. Nobody gets let go and for, and even if you don't like them, you're locked into a two season. I don't think you can truly get to know anybody in one season or you go to. hard like Noella did an OC. And I would I would love to have seen how she kind of readjusted and maybe came back to Earth in the second season or not. And I would love to have seen Jen Armstrong date. And the fact that we don't get to see continuing adventures of Ryan who definitely didn't want to be on camera. But that to me, I found that interesting. I feel like we were robbed in certain ways. And it's easy to write these people off as boring. It's easy to write these people. Like at least

with Atlanta, we know that Sonia and Drew, I mean, Drew's been now for two seasons. But Sonia will Sonia will be there for a handful of seasons at least we know that Yeah I mean I don't think with Atlanta I don't see any I mean Whatever maybe somebody will stay or go

But like I don't think Sonia or drew her on the chopping block And I mean Sonia is very much in the NBC universal family She does all of the track and field commentary And so I'm like they're not They wouldn't like fire her from housewives If they didn't really need to The way they have invested us in her family too.

I mean, I think that speaks volumes. If anything, I think Marlowe will maybe go back to a friend of or, you know, like, I don't know if this is necessarily, I don't know if she's on the same, you know, musical band as the rest of these ladies right now. Like, I feel like she is, you know, would have fit in perfectly three seasons ago maybe or in that kind of like step. I feel like she's playing a different game than most of the other ladies. Yeah, we'll see how their reunion goes. They filmed it last week. And I feel like I think this reunion has a lot of potential, but also I'm a little like, I'm a little nervous.

I feel like the whole Marlowe, Candy, Kenya thing could just end up being really unpleasant to watch. But I'm, I'm hoping it's entertaining. If this season says anything, Marlowe is going to go so hard that, I mean, you know, it's another opportunity for Marlowe to make herself look bad. And that's what scares me because I feel like. Like she's going hard all season and not really warranted most of the time. So I think she'll do that same tactic at the reunion.

And I think I have a, I feel like it's going to be a bad reunion for her. Yeah. Well, we will see. Ryan, thank you so much for joining. No, it's over.

No, let's talk more. We talk about anything, man. Wait, isn't it crazy once Monday starts, though? Are you like this too with like, it just goes.

Like, I'm now, we'll be underground now for like the next. four days of just working and watching Bravo and all of that stuff. And then the weekends are by the way, I love Dylan's Instagram account because he always watches so, so much cool crap. I've gotten so many good recommendations from your Instagram account that has nothing to do with Bravo. And like that's, by the way, did you watch that Princess Diana documentary on HBO Max? I did. I did. I did. I watched it yesterday. What did you, I didn't get to see your Instagram.

Sorry, if you posted about it yet. Did you like it? I thought it was cool because it was like a very specific, like perspective. Like it's only the like found footage. Yeah. Like I thought I mean, people are like, uh, like why are we making another documentary about the same thing? And it's like, I thought there was like a, uh, an idea there. And I thought it worked. I thought they told the story like really just using no talking heads. You have nobody's opinions except for the people that are in these newscasts that were actually during the time. And I thought it really effectively told this story from a different angle, you know, instead of like historians and bloggers and all of that stuff. So I'm not even a Royals fan. So I was like, I got really sucked into it. Yeah, it was good.

But yeah, Ryan, before we go, let everyone know where they can listen to you and follow you and everything. Oh, so bad it's good with Ryan Bailey's the podcast, IHeart Radio. But I have a new one for all you parents out there called What the Kids Are Watching with me and Natalie Poushay, who used to be Heather DeBrow's old assistant. And we do it for IHeart Radio and we recap children's shows. And that sounds like maybe potentially awful and boring, but it's hysterical. We do one episode, like we did Bluey, Paw Patrol. Those will be out, like, we just premiered on Friday and we'll have one episode every week. It's not, it's like 45 minutes.

And it's really, it's really fun. She has a beautiful daughter. I don't have kids yet, but the big thing is like through these kid shows, I might potentially have a kid if I like them well enough. But it's really good. But, you know, so bad it's good. It's always there. It's like four days a week.

And, um, and, um, and just. go follow the Instagram account because I think I'm always shadow band over there, so you have to type in my name. Amazing. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for listening, everyone. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show. Wherever you listen, you can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches.

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