Mention It All - Is Housewives About To Have A Renaissance? Ft. Sarah Galli (RHOA Premiere)

Episode Date: May 8, 2023

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Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All Podcast I am excited to be back It's a new week And I have a returning guest In the studio with me You know her from her podcast

Andy's girls Please welcome Sarah Galley Hey Sarah Oh my God I am so ready To mention it all with my sweet baby Jill. I'm so excited to be here.

I really, truly am. Well, I'm excited to have you. Speaking of Andy's girls, you and I have a fun IRL live experience coming up next week. We've got a little live show happening on May 19th. May 18th. 18th. May 18th.

Is it the 18th? It is, in fact, the 18th. It's Thursday. We've got it. We're doing great. We're doing great so far. May 18. Which is the day after the VPR finale.

Yes. Okay. We're killing the game. It's at Green Room 42 in New York City. You can get your tickets online now. Go to your Instagram. Yeah, you can go to my Instagram or the green. And my Instagram is Dame Galley or the greenroom 42.

venue ticks.com. We'll be unpacking all things related to the VPR finale, the Scandival. I might be going to a certain concert this evening. I will have some thoughts on that here in New York City. That did get confirmed over the weekend. I forgot to tell you. And so this is going to be a really, really cool live show in an awesome space where you can get a pumpini, relax, be with fellow bravo-holics, and also watch it online. You can be wherever you want in the world. You don't have to watch it live. I love that. Those tickets, $20 tickets in person or online. It's incredible. It's a Bravo-Holic healing journey.

Well, you and I are going to have very different nights tonight because I'm going to the premiere of Book Club 2, the next chapter, Jane Fonda, Diane Keaton, and Candace Bergen. And I'm going to be with Tom Sandoval and maybe 12 of his closest friends. Well, maybe if you're really lucky, he'll change the lyrics to some more songs to be about Schwartz and Raquel. And, you know, I got to say, so somebody, a content creator or a fan or somebody put up that video of Tom changing the lyrics to Stacey's mom to like Schwartz's mom.

And then what did he say about Raquel? Schwartzy, can't you see Raquel is not for me? Except then it got updated. People said we misheard or the person misheard and it was actually Raquel is hot for me. Which makes it worse because then you're gloating about cheating on your long term girlfriend with her best friend to F with Schwartz who said repeatedly he wasn't attracted to her and wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship. Like, what are you doing? I mean, I think Schwartz is like a, you know, a paid actor in this whole scenario. So I don't, I'm not like, I'm not concerned about like

Schwartz being manipulated in this situation. But no, I'm concerned about Tom Sandoval's like strategic imperative, which surprisingly isn't great. Well, we'll get into Tom Sandoval's. We're going to get it. Brain. And he's girls live more. at these gross lives. But for today, we are going to talk about the Real Housewives of Atlanta season premiere, which I'm excited to get into. I thought it was a great episode. But first, I want to talk about a report in page six this morning about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, who are currently filming their fourth season. They are, I guess, on a trip to Bermuda right now as we speak.

They're finally leaving the country. Heather got her wish. Come on, pretty mama. Now that Jen Shaw is out of the equation, they're allowed to leave U.S. soil. But apparently, in the midst of filming this season, things between Lisa Barlow and Whitney have taken a turn for the worse. We saw them last year kind of teaming up, I guess, in the absence of other viable friendships. And the source of this conflict between Lisa and Whitney is reportedly that Lisa is, mending fences with both Meredith and Heather Gay this season.

To me, okay, I know that you, you're not a, you're not on the Heather Gay train at this point. You have a lot of feelings. I have a lot of feelings too. But I feel like the root of this is really just kind of a musical chairs of relationships on Salt Lake City and that all of these women have no real connections with each other. They just have to keep the carousel going. Yeah, it feels like instinctively I just read it and it feels like they're probably spiraling out. And I think the Jen, well, Jen was unavailable to film. I think that the way that everything ended for Heather and Meredith, I think that they were aware of like audience reactions not being super positive to their full-throated support during the reunion and the Epps prior. And I understand from their perspective why, you know, posying up to Lisa again, regardless of how they actually feel about her, would be beneficial to them. But with Lisa, I'm like, babe, like, you were in a power position. What are you doing? Like,

I thought that, you know, her alliance, because none of these people are friends, I thought that her alliance with Whitney was like pretty strong. So now I'm like, Lisa, no, come on. You're smarter than this, I think maybe. I don't disagree. I definitely think coming out of season three, Lisa kind of have had the most fan favorite number one girl in the group energy sort of for lack of a better option, you know? Yeah. I think that's the problem that we've kind of been bumping up against in Salt Lake, knowing that Jen was probably going to be out of the picture and that there was going to have to be sort of like a reshuffling of the deck a little bit, that it's like there's not that many people to be friends with. I think there are probably some new women on this season. I don't

I have not really cared that much about Salt Lake in the last couple months. Same. But, you know, it just feels like everybody kind of is like, what's my next move? It's kind of succession-y in a way. Okay. They wish. Jen Shaw was Logan Roy. Spoiler, spoiler for this season, if you haven't seen it.

And now they're like, wow, dad's gone. I mean, I think it's closer to like celebrity rehab where the thing that they're trying to figure out is their reputeeaties. I don't. Is Lisa Barlow Kendall Roy? It's Lisa Barlow Kendall. Yeah, you guys, you know, like whatever. It's just like flood the tube, pump the pump, get the content, pump, pumping. I love that. Lisa might be a mix of Greg and Tom, honestly, when you think about it. I could see that happening. But it just makes me, I don't know, I think Salt Lake's maybe the worst franchise currently. I think Whitney is Roman. I don't think Whitney is communicative. Enough because Robin has some like strong business instincts. I was literally listening to the official succession podcast in the way here because it's as

you know my number one show. I don't think Whitney has the communicative skill necessary to ascend to a Roman-esque. I think Roman probably needs to go on a healing journey though. Roman is desperado for a healing journey. Do you remember when Whitney put up like an Instagram post and it was like very emotional and like I actually was like, oh my God, this is so sweet and so vulnerable. And as you continued reading the caption, she was announcing her jewelry brand. That is my absolute favorite genre of post on social media when it's like tying something that is pure capitalism back to something real or emotional or, you know, inherent about yourself.

And you're like, growing up, I had a tough time. And, you know, I was always looking for something to hold on to and to be, you know, anchored in something. And that's why, you know, when I wake up every morning and I smell that cup of coffee, Folgers. Oh, my God. It makes me feel like I'm rooted. You know, like, it's just shit like that. It's like, it's the jewelry.

It's always the jewelry. It's a mess. Speaking of jewelry. Oh, my ears just perked. I know you love jewelry. This isn't, this is about to be an unhinged segue. But Real Housewives of Atlanta, season 15, our newest edition, to the cast, Courtney has a jewelry line. Of course she does. Oh, I was thinking you were going to say

Atlanta, the jewel in the crown of Housewives franchise. That would be, that would have been a more artful segue. Instead, I am just really fascinated by our new friend of Courtney who, um, is like a, you know, business lady, I'm sure, but then also has a jewelry line, you know, good, good for her. I mean, as someone who has brought up the fact that I've been to Paris three times in conversation, years after the fact. I did appreciate that while trying to like bait candy, she couldn't

help but continue to reference the fact that she was in Paris when I received a phone call. I was in Paris. She said it no less than like three times. So my friend calls me in Paris. It's like, okay. You what? You didn't you bought the international plan while you

were on vacation? Like same girl. I mean, it is giving global brand for candy. So that's nice. And isn't it? I mean, candy is worldwide. Candy, I don't know if I mentioned this on the show last week.

Candy now Emmy and Tony nominated. As of the last week, right? Yeah, she got back-to-back days. She got Emmy and Tony nominations. And who was trying to shade her about not killing it on Broadway during the first episode? Marlowe, of course. Right. She's like, she's a failure on Broadway because her first play that she produced didn't

get nominated for a Tony, which, first of all, L.O.L. That's not, that's not how we measure, like, success and failure in the theater world, but also just, like, L.O.L. that Marl has an opinion on that. And meanwhile, Candy was, like, in the works on the show that ultimately would get her nominated for a Tony. So. Yeah, the timing of it for theater folk. I was like, wait a second. By fail, are you failing upwards? Like, she's, she's doing phenomenal. I know. It's, it is. It's a lot. I'm so happy to have Atlanta back. This season, it feels like you and I were texting about this yesterday before you had seen the premiere, I think, about how this season, both of Atlanta and the upcoming OC feel like they have potential to be really just solid, sturdy, entertaining seasons of housewives.

We don't have any massive scandals or really bleak storylines that we are aware of from either of these seasons. You know, the biggest thing from Atlanta is Drew and Ralph not being together anymore, but that I think happened after filming had concluded. I will probably see some, you know, in glings and whatever. But even that, it's like, that's like cheerleader moment of like Drew and Ralph not being together anymore. So this season, I feel like I'm just excited to let it unfold. Yeah, because I like high stakes storylines, but I just think the morality factor has made. a lot of us really uncomfortable, like the way that we are supposed to believe that, you know, some of these federal crimes are, you know, the punchline for a season-long joke. And I just,

it has, it made watching Salt Lake City for other reasons as well, very uncomfortable. Obviously, Beverly Hills had some very tough moments where it was like, oh, I just feel weird watching this. And I know that some people feel that way about this season of New Jersey. I don't. I'm like very into the storytelling, but I could, I absolutely could appreciate how people are like, it's just so dark, it's so bleak. This family is is done so. And so my hope for Atlanta in Orange County is that we really do return to the light. I think that the Bravo community is looking for and it was really extra appreciative of fun. I just want to see like jokes, giggles me. And McGee, some fighting, some conflicts, some whatever, but not like legal stuff, weird, manipulative

use of health stuff, any of that. I just don't, I don't want it near me right now. I think we got our fill. Yeah. And this cast, I think, is a cast full of professionals. Yes. These women, these are stars. They understand the assignment. They know what works. They are pretty good at sort of bringing it compartmentalizing when they need to. And I think it speaks volumes in this episode that aside from Drew, who is dealing with a family crisis, also not feeling well, but... What was that, by the way? Well, Ralph said, like, her dad wasn't...

Did Dad was sick? I don't know. But aside from Drew not being in this episode, everybody, regardless of who they're talking to, who they're on good terms with, shows up to Sonia's party at the end and is participating and contributing and contributing right off. the bat. And that's exciting to me. The fact that candy is not on great terms with Sherey since last season is not on great terms with Marlowe since last season. We know Kenya and Marlowe basically don't fuck with each other. We know that Shire and Kenya have this shady dynamic going on. Drew and

Sonia have their lingering issues. Like there are a lot of interpersonal connections in this cast that are strained or are tricky, but none of them that I feel like I'm like dreading, experiencing over this season. And same, I think, with the personal storylines that are going on. Like, the Marlowe stuff, I think is very sensitive for a lot of reasons. The Sonia stuff, I think, is incredibly interesting. Like, the ways that she and her sister communicate, understanding that now her brother-in-law works for her.

And it's like, how do you critique someone's boundaries? when there's a financial relationship in place, a business relationship, like, even if it's not with Sonia's sister directly, it's with Sonia's sister's husband. Like, that's really interesting. The candy, Todd stuff, I honestly was very surprised by it. I was like, oh, my goodness. Like, when Candy does a candy cry where she's so uncomfortable and she hates to do it, so her body just kind of clenches and she does the like really tight introduction into tears. Because I always, I believe everything that honestly Candy says at the end of the day. So I just, I thought that was really interesting.

There's so many different avenues to go. There's just a lot of story here. And I appreciate that. There's a lot of organic story. Totally. And I think like what you were saying with the Marlowe stuff with her nephews, her first solo scene of the season. being saying that, you know, these boys' mother is, was, is out of prison. She hasn't contacted them at all. Marlowe, I think it's finally sort of set in for her or become reality that it's like,

these are my boys now. Like, this isn't a temporary situation. This isn't just a, you know, a stopgap type of thing. Like, I'm parenting these children and that has a weight to it that I wasn't prepared for and that I, you know, maybe feel like I've messed up, but that she's taking it seriously. And I mean, as much as I sometimes am a little bit like woo-woo about the life coach stuff of it all. Yeah. I thought, you know, Miss Sharon was kind of dropping truth bombs on this family. And I thought that Marlowe talking about the idea of gentle parenting and how different

that is from how she was raised and how, you know, she's kind of like, working through that stuff. That is fascinating to me. And it's a side of Marlowe that, you know, three or five years ago, if you had said this is where we would be with Marlowe in 2023, it would have seemed extremely surprising. But it's, I mean, as much as Marlowe can be her own, you know, worst enemy sometimes in the social scene, this is, I'd love to see it. Yeah. And I think also, I mean, who among us hasn't experienced some sort of, whether it's from their childhood or relationships or whatever else, some sort of instability and security in relation to someone else. And I think watching Marlowe, I just honestly was like literally, I know like,

L.O, L.L, I was matching her, but I was truly watching her face. And she seemed like she was almost in shock about the situation that she is in and the fact that she is like the full time, seemingly permanent caregiver. And I thought a little bit about how she might have viewed or views security and responsibility, which often I think for her has been financial, which is a part of it. It's not that that's not. But it's like being careful and responsible for her nephew's emotional security and emotional stability is I think the thing that they're working on. Like there was one point where her nephew, correct me if I'm wrong, but her nephew turned to her and was like when they were apologizing or hugging or something and said something along the lines of like you stressed me out like

even though you stressed me out you know we've come together whatever else and that was a little bit of an aha moment for me because I was like okay I don't know that Marlowe is hearing him like literally I don't know that she heard him while he was saying this but that is the thing that I think they're kind of trying to work through the like how do we feel safe and comfortable here emotionally on the heels of what they experienced prior to living with Marlowe and when Marlowe was like, I'm going to teach you a lesson by kicking you out. Like that's, that doesn't just go away. It's something that I think they're all trying to figure out how to work through.

I love to see that. And I love the juxtaposition of Marlowe talking about the reality of this situation in the confessional while wearing maybe the most ridiculous pair of earrings. Looking amazing, by the way. Oh, she looks stunning. She looks perfect. She's a gorgeous woman. She's like gorgeous woman.

She is wearing these earrings. Oh my God. I guess they're hoops, but they are like two inches wide and like the circumference of like bigger than a beer can. Just like sitting on her shoulders basically with Alexander Votier like stamped into them. It is such a look that I can't get out of my brain. I was watching this episode. I immediately took a screenshot and then I just, I've looked at it so many times and it is delightful to me. Did you go to sleep away or day camp or anything when you were younger?

I did some day camps and I would do Boy Scout camp, which was only a week, but you went and slept there. Okay. Remember how they would do that like trustful thing of like light as a feather, stiff as a board? I was thinking that when I was looking at her ears. Her ears just pretending that this is super light because that did not look light on the. those lobes. Like that for me, because I have a ton of ear piercings, but they're all like really small. I just was like, oh my God. I know. I hope they're okay. I know. I hope they're okay. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60%

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Work your magic. Let's rewind. We've got to talk about Shrereiree. Dillan. Shabray and Martel, who, to his credit. No, let's not. Nothing to his credit. He's a piece of shit.

It's his credit. Martel. He has a bad credit score. I believe that. Martel is an absolute nightmare of, a man in every way. Horrible. But thank the Lord that he is showing up to film because the fact that the first scene

of this season is him one-on-one with Shiree. And then later in the episode, he shows up to Ross's 40th birthday party. He is letting it all hang out. The women are immediately talking about him. There are multiple scenes in this episode where they're talking about what the streets are saying. Kenya's gotten a DM from him in the past, which apparently he unsent before she, So into that, by the way.

So into that. You know, this man is nothing but pure mess. And nothing good of it will come for Shiree. I believe to my core. But I am just, I love the fact that we're getting it all on camera. Because there's nothing worse than when a storyline centers around something that we're not able to see for whatever reason. And I already am sensing that with Courtney and Candy that I'm like, if this third

party Dina isn't going to be in the mix. Like we can't. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. But sure, I mean, Shiree, Shiree, Shiree. He exudes big dick energy. I'm like, girl. That's, that's all he. That is if that's that's that cannot be the only thing. And yet for Sherey, maybe that's everything. I mean, like, I don't understand. There was a point where Candy was talking about how she tried to help Shire and with business stuff and but Sherey didn't want to pay anyone. So she just imagined that all of this would be a success because I just blink my eye and that's what I assume is going to take place. And it feels like there's an element of that with Martel where it's like, well, I just think he's going to be great. So like it doesn't matter who he is or what he's done.

He's just going to be great because I want that. And so it's going to be a success. He's a good looking guy. Who cares? He does a photo shoot for upscale magazine. Oh my God. exudes big dick energy. As, as Sonia says, he's not, he doesn't have an ankle bracelet on.

So I guess that's an upgrade. It is, I feel like with Choray, we were so rooting for her last season in the Tyrone saga. And I am, I'm glad for her that she has freed herself from the Tyrone saga. But it does feel like she kind of is, she has found something that is so marginally better than that. and is convincing herself that it's the dream. Yeah, I would argue that it's probably worse because this is someone who likes the taste of reality TV and the taste of celebrity

and also does not appear to be a great guy. So the combination of that, understanding what Choray provides by being a cast member on Atlanta, like this is going to be a harder person for her to disassociate from if that is something that she wants to do. like if she does decide to consciously uncouple or detach like he's going to be harder to shake to shake and that makes me concern but it's also like I can't want more for charie than she wants for herself so at what

point do I treat her like an adult because she's a grown woman she's very successful I think she's very talented very smart very funny obviously beautiful she's got the house finally together we can see the you know bottom floor like we can see the lower level looks great. And I just, I don't know it. At a certain point, I'm like, Shiree, wake up, but it's she, I mean, it could not be more obvious who this guy is. He brings with him a reality TV linked in.

It is very clear that he, to me, has an extremely toxic energy. If she doesn't want to see it, do I just kind of like, I don't know. At what point do I take off the kid gloves here? No, I feel the same way that there are certain things where it's like. like, I'm not going to continue to care about this if you so clearly have no regard for it. Like, it's not my job to be like Sherey's emotional babysitter as a viewer of this show who has met her in passing one time. And that's it. Like, it's not my job to, you know, protect her heart.

But, you know, she's not in love. So that's... What is that about? Because she's so deeply in love. She's like, I can't say it first. I got to wait for him to do something. Well, at least I guess she can't get pregnant. I don't know.

I can't. And like, the way these women, the way the women on the cast are all speaking about him is really telling to me. Because it's not just like, oh, like maybe there was a rumor or maybe his ex tried to say something. Like even with, like with Louis on New Jersey, it's like there's the whispers, but then there's also a faction of people that are like, that's just talk. He has an angry ex or something. we don't want to believe it, whatever. With Martel, it's like, they're immediately talking, Manetta, Candy, Kenya, they're talking about it. Like, everybody has an opinion right off the bat, and they all are aware of the same stuff. Also, this is where it sort of gets complicated,

because at what point can they really sincerely, specifically talk about his time on reality TV? Because we're all talking about how he's like stooping someone else in Atlanta. And I'm thinking, like, okay, but if they've talked about the fact that they're not, they're dating maybe, but they're not, I don't know what promises they've made to each other. But to me, that's like sort of a nothing burger. I would think that's to be expected. That's not in any way out of character for him. And I actually don't even understand how committed they are to each other.

Right. Like that's being with some other chick is like a feature, not a bug of the Martel experience. That's like that's the ground floor. That is his lower level. Like that's like the absolute foundation. So we're all pretending that him stooping somebody else is a big deal. I'm like, that's not even close to the big deal. The big deal to me is how like absolutely toxic it is. The worst case scenario for me is in watching this is if he does only see Choray at one time and not

anybody else. I don't want him to give her full fork it, full forcus. Oh my God. Oh, God, it's like the good place. I don't want him to give her full focus. I want him to be distracted so she can extricate herself from this. Well, and the idea that he has DM'd Kenya at some point, we don't know the timeline of that. That introduces the idea that not only would he be messy in a general sense, but that he would be kind of bringing it onto the doorstep of the show, which obviously it's the season premiere and it's one of the main storylines of the episode. So it's arrived. He has brought with him immediately this thing. And he's, you know, he's mad at candy for calling him an opportunist.

last season at the reunion. And it's like, well, I mean, here you are on this bigger show than the one that you came from immediately the first chance you got, showing up to the group scene, showing up to the solo scene, miced up, ready to go. It's like, it's not not giving opportunist, which, you know, whatever. And she's been, you know, um, judging Kenya on social by talking about how Kenya has like a rent-a boyfriend or whatever, which is like absolutely true. And she's, like, absolutely true. That is Kenya's history on reality TV, but look at when it's not. Look at when she's with Mark. You know, like I almost prefer something fake than a really real toxicity. And with Choray, I just, I wish for her less of this reality. I think it's going to not go well real quick,

real quick. I know. I'm looking at Sherey's tweets right now and it's just like, L.O.L. I mean, it almost not, I have to like Google Twitter because I'm not on Twitter. But like, so I see it on Instagram eight days later. But I mean, these women are Olympians. Like they all have gold medals at Housewives. And I just cannot imagine being a Bravo fan. Honestly, listen, safe space. We love, we love everybody in all levels of the Bravo fandom.

But I just can't imagine being like a true Bravo fan and not watching Atlanta. This is top tier prestige franchise enter. And I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful for this season. Me too. I mean, I am, I'm right there with you. I mean, even like Sonia, it's her second season. Yeah.

I don't think she had like the world's best season last year. Like I think there's room for differing opinions about how she did and the energy she brings to the show. But I do think that it seems like she gets it in the group dynamic sense. in a way where I'm not worried about her being like dead weight on the show. And we see it right in the premiere episode. I mean, obviously she's throwing this big group event, which she spends $100,000 on. Can we talk about that?

The way she's openly talking about the pressure of not falling short of expectations hosting an event for the show because last season people came for her for the party city decorations, whatever. The party was like just a get-together in her house. house essentially. The way she is talking about the expectations of throwing an event is interesting kind of towing the line with the fourth wall almost because I think a lot of women, probably most women who have been on housewives have done something like this where they're planning an event

and a lot of it is like for the show and it feels like spending $100,000 on a party is that's a lot of money. Does Bravo? I always get confused by this. And I feel like we have received some information that I honestly forget it five minutes later. What is, what, if anything, is Bravo contributing to that? Because I know that they do fund, I mean, obviously they do the trips, but like they do fund certain like finale party style things, right? It's my understanding that pretty much if you're throwing a party, you're throwing a party.

I think there are, you know, there might be certain situations where they'll like set up, you. you know, you know, going to a dinner or something like that where it's more of like a... Yeah, they're picking up the bill for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, they're not paying for Sonia to throw her husband a birthday party. And I think that is, it kind of makes me nervous when it's like you're going into your second season. You feel like there's pressure to live up to the image of being a housewife. And also the women in the show are directly playing into that.

You know, Kenya's literally like, my expectations are low for this party because of what you did last. season. And then she's, you know, surprised and impressed and is like, wow, this is a really nice event. It's like, I mean, it looks like a nice event, but also like, yikes. Doing housewives cost so much money because I feel like the amount of money you have to spend to look like you have a lot of money to spend, regardless of if you have a lot of money to spend. Like, even if you're a bigillionaire, there's a look to the housewives universe. It's always specific to each city. But it's just so wild because it's like, listen, these women are making at least several hundred thousand dollars, I would say, for each contract. But I don't even know how several.

I think several is a stretch for some of the more recent housewives. I think it's a to a couple, like one to 100,000 to like a couple to several. Because we have some like superstars. Yeah, right. Like somebody like candy, Kenya at this point are. Yeah. But if she's paying a hundred thousand dollars for them. I mean, like, how much can you stretch a party? You know, as far as like, this is, people are going to see her

differently, maybe, but it's a, it's an investment, obviously. I don't think it's one she would be making at that level had a camera crew not been filming for this specific kind of show. It just makes me like, oh, man, because it's like, you know, she's obviously a superstar. She's an Olympian. I'm sure she's doing well with like endorsements and business opportunities and stuff. But I don't know how much she's making with Housewives. And that is a lot of money to spend. on a non-finally party. It is the first party. So that does say something, but it's just a lot of money.

Also the fact that she's, at least on some level, supporting her parents and her sister and her and now hired her brother-in-law. Right. And like her sister has done her hair for a long time. Her parents were her managers. And she's like talking about the pressures of that of like that she's paying these people out of her contracts and stuff. And, you know, now that dynamic has changed that.

that she's not the, when you're like an elite athlete like that, I think naturally, the people in your life kind of orbit around you. And that now it's like, she might be the one who's like kind of famous in the family, but like you're not preparing this person to go to the Olympics. Like that's a different thing of just like, oh yeah, you have like a photo shoot and then you're filming for housewives. It's like, okay, then go do that. I don't need to like be at your be back and call. Yeah, but also like the response. here and like nature of a group dynamic, how do we support our family member who's on housewives, who's now dependent on you in a different way? Before maybe it was like time, effort, energy, and now it's like all of that plus emotional vulnerability, which is maybe something different when you go from living your life, preparing for the Olympics or some like crazy track experience or a business opportunity that comes from it, but you don't have cameras, following you around 24-7 and you don't have cameras falling around that have a very big investment in something going awry in your life so that they can focus on that for 22 episodes. So it's like

there's a split that seems to be happening in the way that maybe she's like communicating with her sister, which maybe that's just natural among sisters. Maybe there's other stuff there because it's mixed with like, you know, work dynamics and finances and living together and everything else. But when you add on the housewives to all of it. that the expectation of her family. What does it mean to step up? You know? What does that look like?

She better hope she sells a lot of those bop, pop, pop, bop, t-shirts. What was that? What was that hoodie that she and Ross are both wearing? I was like, I was very distracted by it. Did it say kids bop on it too? Or is it just her like phrase? Oh my God.

It's, I do love. I love the, I do need a new hoodie, though. I have to say. I really do love the how much she. her Jamaican identity on this show. Like, I think that is a fun flavor that we don't get all the time. Like, I appreciate that side of her. And I'm, you know.

I think she's great. I don't remember. I feel like maybe we fell off a little bit last season where it was like, maybe I had a lot of hope. And then I'm not quite sure what happened. But I really do have, once again, a lot of hope for her. And I think she's, your first season is so hard. It's much to me.

better to maybe have like shaky spots during your first season because you're a human person, you're new to this environment, you know, like relationships can be a surprise, fractures can be a surprise, and settle in in your second season, then have a gangbusters first season and then have the second season curse. Like this is better for her long term. Yeah. Good sleep is everything. That's why Ali's science back support is made with a blend of melatonin and L. Dianine for both kiddos and grown-ups. So when your mind won't switch off, you've got something that can help. You're racing thoughts and restless nights won't stand a chance. Find Ollie Sleep Solutions for the whole family at ollie.com. That's OLLL-Y.com.

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What? Guns blazing for candy. Mm-mm. And it is very telling. to me in a way that I don't know exactly how this is going to unfold for somebody to bring this much heat their first episode of Housewives and to know that she is not holding a peach this season. She is a friend of. Too much. At some point, this is going to go off the rails and it's not going to play out. This feels very much like a play at a peach and it hasn't worked for her.

This is also like outside looking in versus inside looking out. For her probably outside looking in, Maybe she was annoyed at Candy, but is to me, like, leaning very heavy into not only making this a thing, but being very passive aggressive to Candy, which is Candy is kryptonite. Like, you do not want to come at her with a tone she doesn't like to receive and do that more than once. And you certainly should not bounce at her. Yeah, maybe not great. But like, to me, that's probably Courtney thinking like, okay, this is what I'm supposed to do.

And maybe I do feel it. So I'm going to perform it a little extra, which she would probably think people might. enjoy. And I'm sure many people do. But for me, inside looking out as a Bravo fanatic of 150 years, I'm like, this isn't it. This doesn't feel organic to me. And I personally am a human person, which means that I am legally obligated to Stan, Candy, Boris Tucker. I, how can you not? I understand it's possible. And I appreciate that because we need to have dialogue. We need to have people with different opinions, but like, babe, not this. It's not, not with candy, not this, not now. No, thank you. Well, I think the, yeah, the tricky thing is if you are new coming on to the show and we don't

know you at all, you haven't been around the group before. We don't know of you from any other arena. There has to be a little bit of a foundation of your place in the group, who you're friends with, us kind of having a vibe off of you before, or else it just feels like you're coming in with this agenda that really is just like a... Stupid. It's stupid. Grab at some screen time and some attention. And with the candy thing, it's like the way Courtney tells it, she's like, we ran in the

same circles. We have this mutual friend, whatever. Candy's like, I might have met you once a few years ago, but that doesn't mean I have any idea who you are. Like, it does seem like, you know, if you believe Candy's version of events, and I'm guessing you do. It seems like Courtney has almost imagined this thing a little bit that it's like, I don't know, maybe she heard you were joining the show and was asking questions, but I don't think Candy's like. I don't even think it matters about whatever reality Courtney's presenting. It's the fact

that she's trying to intimate something, which is giving me no disrespect to Fajra Parks, but it's giving me a little Fadra Parks nini energy. Like we knew each other. We went to school together. hint, hint, you were up to no good. Like, I'm watching Courtney and I'm just thinking, like, I get what you're doing. I understand that you think this is your way in. And maybe you actually think that this is real to you. Like, maybe it is real to you, but it's, to me, stupid. And you're coming at an all star.

And it's just not going to work out in your favor. But also, this is why, you know, Bravo fans in the Bravo universe is so fucking complicated because it's like, we should want this, no? we should want conflict. I think Fadre Adnini is a good comparison, but I have a feeling this is going to go a little bit more Yovana for her. You know me. I'm that bitch from Clark.

Oh, my God. A hundred percent. Where is she now? I couldn't tell you. She's back at school. She's studying up. She's back at Clark, Atlanta. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a much better comparison because I do not want to suggest in any way that Courtney is giving any kind of Parks Esquire. But hey, Courtney, Courtney still got a cast photo this season. She still is, you know, involved in the promo and stuff. So we will see where she lands. Who is she? She is. I know she's Courtney, but like, who is she?

She and Shiree's kids went to school together. Okay, great. She has a marketing consulting company. She doesn't. As you remember, a jewelry brand. Again. And she was in Paris once. No disrespect, but it is also giving me.

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That's what it means. I'm here for it. Wake up and smell those roses. Well, I am always here for having you here. And I'm glad that you were here today. And you know where I would love for people to be on Thursday, May 18th? Oh my God. God, where?

At the Green Room 42. For Andy's Girls Live, a scandal of all spreads. We'll be talking Vanderpump Rules finale, maybe New Jersey, maybe Atlanta, who knows, so much is happening. So much to discuss always. You can get your tickets. Say the link. I am going to tell you that link. Because I absolutely haven't.

It's at the Green Room 42, the numbers 42. com, which you can also get on my social at Dame Galley, $20,000. tickets. Again, if you're outside the New York City area, we'd love to have you live stream, which you can watch on demand, depending on your time zone, no problem. But also if you're in the New York area, I mean, it's going to be fun. And I think the Scannival for a lot of us has been, you know, a little bit of a bonding moment because so many of us are watching the same story play out. And I think there's no better time than literally the day after the finale for us to come together and just sit down and be like, here's what the fuck we are watching.

It's going to be a safe space for all of our thoughts and feelings about Vanderpump rules. Unless, you know, you think the wrong things. And then you should still come. We'd love to have you. It's a diversity of opinions. Drink yourself a little pump tini toast to whatever. We want, if you're a scand-of-all-truther, like let's, you know, let's do a little Q&A. Let's talk that out.

Okay. Yeah. And make sure to listen to Andy's Girls podcast anywhere you're listening to mention it all. You know, I was on last week. Yeah, you're on like every three hours. I love it. You know, I can't get enough. It's a fun time.

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