Mention It All - Karma Is Having A Moment Ft. Bali Chainani

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

Ahead of Family Karma’s season 3 premiere, Dylan sits down with Bali Chainani to discuss the show coming back for another round. She discusses the significance of her cast rocking Indian outfits at BravoCon, and why it feels like season 3 is a fresh start for the surprise hit. Earlier, Dylan recaps this week’s RHOP, with a hot take on Ashley and Michael’s bungled separation announcement. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am Dylan Hafer. And coming up later in this episode, I have a really fun interview with Bali from Family Karma. I sat down with her. We talked about the upcoming season three of the show, her experience at BravoCon, lots of fun stuff. It is a good one. But I also wanted to make sure to talk about Real Housewives of Potomac this week. So first of all, I'm just going to chat about the latest episode, just you and I and all of us for a little while, just for a few quick minutes before we get into that interview with Bali.

But, you know, it's going to be a good one. So just sit back, relax, and let the Monday energy wash over you personally. Not to get too raw and real on this podcast, but my Instagram was suspended this morning. I believe it's part of a big glitch that's happening or something. So TBD on when I'm getting my personal Instagram back, but it's been a harrowing six or so hours to say the least. But, you know, luckily we have the ladies of Potomac to soothe our times of strife and that they are doing. This episode, it centers on Robbins Family Fun Day. And what to say about

Robbins Family Funday? I don't think that she has a knack for event planning or execution in a way that is not even in a housewife sense, because of course, there is this kind of housewives habit or tendency to go extremely over the top with your events. And look, we don't always need that. We don't always need a singing invitation delivered on a laptop at the door. We don't need, you know, $50,000 spent on decorations or anything like that. It's a kids' day at the park. But it does feel like maybe if you are, you know, if you're spinning the wheel of whose turn is it to host a group event and it lands on you. There is an expectation that there's like some effort going into it.

And Robin's Family Fun Day at the Park is disorganized, disheveled, as Mia would say, maybe low budget. But, you know, it's a family fun day. And some of the families are having some fun. The whole thing, of course, became an issue last week when Robin declined to invite Wendy to her family fun day. But so Robin's big plan to, she says it's the plan to fix this

and not make it about, you know, not get the kids into the mom's issues. I think that's a little bit of a, a little bit of a disingenuous way to describe it. But her big plan is that Candice is going to play Auntie for the day and she is going to bring Wendy's kids to the Family Fun Day.

But of course, Robin doesn't ask, Wendy herself, if this sounds like something she would be amenable to, she tasks Candice with going to Wendy and being like, hi, Robin wants me to bring your kids to the family fun day. And, you know, to, I would think absolutely no one's surprise, Wendy is not in the mood for that plan. It just is, you know, I don't, I want the kids to be able to have fun. I feel like with Robin in this situation, it's a little bit like, my love, the damage has been done. You already went through this whole thing of not inviting Wendy.

So then the last minute invite for somebody else to pick up her kids and take them there. It's like, you guys aren't getting along right now. It's not like you have a restraining order and can't be in the same place. Like, you're hanging out at a park. Wendy easily could have come with her kids and just hung out and not really to talk to Robin. I mean, Candice and Giselle aren't speaking to each other. Charisse and Karen aren't getting along. Like, you're just standing at the park.

I feel like Robin is turning this into a bigger thing that it needs to be. But, of course, in her mind, she sees it differently that Wendy's decision not to have Candace bring the kids is just proof that it never really was about the kids to begin with. That if she doesn't want her kids to come and have a good time, then she has a bigger issue with Robbins. Robin than she's willing to admit. And it's like, I mean, maybe, but also it's just like, it was a weird plan. And the way you had Candace go approach it didn't make it any less weird. Like, I like Robin a lot.

I mean, historically, I always, for the most part, enjoy Robin. But in this situation, I'm like, girl, please. But then of course, Karen's hearing about what happened at the dance studio when there were like three different arguments going on. And she's like, you guys have to be better behaved when I'm not here. Like, I can take a sick day. Come on. Keep it together as a group. And then pretends maybe to have a coughing fit because she has a respiratory infection and walks away. It's like, I should have taken a Z-pack just so she doesn't have to spend time with Cherise. It's like, Karen, Hugar, please. The hypocrisy on these shows, never fails to amaze me.

The double standards, the hypocrisy, the grandstanding and posturing about other people's behavior. When it's like, Karen, you are willing to drag Cherise up and down social media. You are leaving the park so that you don't have to hang out with her. Like, please.

These women getting into an argument in a dance studio, you're no better. And why are we even acting? But the other big thing we have to talk about is what's going on with Michael and Ashley. And specifically the fact that Ashley has cooked up this plan with her publicist, that she's written a statement with Michael, that's, you know, very nice tied with a bow about they're deciding to separate and how there's no specific reason and all of this. And I do sort of

wonder exactly the, like the unedited version of exactly how this all went down. Because the fact that Ashley has this conversation and is very, you know, you know, you know, the way. You know, the, you know, you know, comes to the agreement that it's like, okay, I want to put this statement out on a Friday. Today's the 30th. We said April. So it's, you know, literally, you know, day after tomorrow. Okay. Great. We're putting it out this Friday. And then like 24 hours later, it's in the press. not to be all tinfoil hat here, but it does feel a little bit like how many people knew about the conversation that Ashley and Antea, the publicist, had, and how many people knew about that Friday decision? Because it seems like the separation had already been filed or happening or something. Like people knew on some level about the separation, I would imagine, in that Ari and Ashley's life.

But the specific timing of it going public seems like it has to be directly tied to the fact that they were about to announce it later that week. Because once that announcement was made, you having, you know, X, Y person having T about Ashley and Michael is pretty much worthless. You know, you're not going to sell that to a tabloid. when they've already put out a statement. I mean, maybe it's interesting if there's more to the story, but that information only really is important before that statement comes out. So it feels to me, again, maybe I'm being, maybe I'm thinking too much into this, but it feels like that had to come from somebody who knew that there was going to be an announcement

made within the next few days. And they saw their window of opportunity closing and they said, you know, okay, word on the street is, let's go to the blogs. I don't know. I do feel bad for Ashley, though, because this leaks to the press. I'm sure her phone's getting blown up. Michael is, you know, still healing from his vasectomy or something. I don't know how long it takes to heal from a vasectomy. Don't tell me. Don't slide into my DMs. But my DMs that are now suspended, that's a sore subject. But, you know, he thinks Ashley's going to try to get pregnant again. Meanwhile, this separation is leaking to the press. And so Ashley is, you know, sitting in the car, trying to get a hold of Michael,

calling, texting. At first, they're not going through. I'm like, girl, he might have changed his number. He might have blocked your number. He's trying to not be contactable right now. And maybe it's because he, I don't know, I'm not going to make excuses for Michael Darby. But whatever the reason of that is, It's not just like, oh, he's busy and he's not answering the phone. If you're getting this like, boodoo, the number you're calling, like, that's not just me not picking up the phone. There is some effort being made by Michael Darby to not be reachable, which, you know, as the father of the kids, and as the partner in separation that is being leaked to the

press currently is a big fucking problem for Ashley because she's like, okay, now everybody's talking about us. The news is out there. I want to say something. we have this prepared statement that now is questionably relevant anyway. But I feel like at the very least we need to say something. But she, I mean, to her credit, she feels bad about putting it out there without Michael's involvement or approval or anything because this was supposed to be something they were

approaching as a unit. And it's like, you know, she doesn't want everyone to demonize Michael. But then it's like, the man should be picking up the phone. that's what I have to say about that. Like, if you don't want to be seen as the piece of shit in the situation, then perhaps for once in your life, don't act like the piece of shit in the situation. Not that I think that really would have made a difference.

I mean, I think all of us would still be demonizing Michael anyway, because we have been watching seven seasons of this show where he has been the piece of shit in pretty much every situation imaginable. But I think in this specific situation, situation, it's like right now is the moment where you need him to show up, and he is not picking up the phone. You're getting the boodoo, we're sorry, the number you're like, no. You no longer, that's no longer your concern. And this came up at BravoCon, which I actually loved the way she

handled it. Somebody at one of her like panels or something came up to the microphone and was like, I slapped with Michael Darby. And she's like, that's not my business anymore. Like, first of all, she like asked for receipts. He didn't have receipts. And it's like, okay, what are you doing? You're like a stunt queen just trying to have a moment. But also she's like, we're not together. It's not my problem. I don't need to know. I don't want to know for the most, I would have guess. And also it's just like, what are you trying to do here? You're trying to have your moment with this divorce or separate, sorry, not a divorce. They have to be separated for a year. Virginia law. Ha, ha. Like, this is the moment where if you're, going to do this together, you have to be doing it together. And Michael is showing you through his actions and his lack of actions and his lack of picking up the phone that you are not a unit in this. And, you know, protect your peace, Ashley, protect the babies, do what you've got to do,

put out the statement you've got to put out, make those TikToks, live your best life, slay the Halloween costume as all your fellow Potomac houseways. Like, Ashley, I'm giving you permission in this moment to be free. Don't go anywhere. We have an interview with Bali coming up that you don't want to miss. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom Rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, Frame and Free People.

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You're back for a third round. I mean, it's, I say this season after season, it's such a pinch me moment that we're even like, I can't believe A, I'm on TV. B, we get to tell our stories and like three seasons. And the first two was like during the pandemic. So this one feels like even though it's the third, it almost feels like it's brand new all over again because we're able to connect with so many more of you and our fans, you know? Because like we can jump on a plane and now give hugs and kisses.

Yeah, I was thinking back to when your show first premiered. And even before that, the first sneak peek we ever got of Family Karma was at BravoCon in 2019. You guys weren't there, but we saw the trailer and it was like, what is this show? Who are these people? This, you know, trying to get in the door and it's locked. It's very like. In the outfit, it was at BravoCon. Yeah. And so you just recently were at BravoCon this year and it feels very full circle announcing the third season, the trailer coming out, all of you guys being there to meet people. What was that Bravo Con experience like for you? The BravoCon experience, like I keep saying to people, like if I literally, God forbid, if I died tomorrow, I'm good. I'm good. Like if my Bravo life like ended yesterday, I'm good because that BravoCon was just so epic. Again, being able to like we've lived in our five, 10 mile radius these past two seasons because of the pandemic. So, you know, we've, we're like, we're like, we're like, high-fiving each other, but like life is as normal as normal can be. Nobody's like,

Bali, while I'm checking my mail. It's, I feel like that's a, it's a double-edged sword for people to be yelling while you're checking the mail, you know. Fantastic. So just like to connect and talk to people and meet people. I mean, I went into BravoCon being really, really nervous because I was like, we haven't been on people's televisions for over 18 months now. We hadn't seen a sneak peek yet. We hadn't seen a trailer yet.

We hadn't seen a teaser. So we saw the teaser like you saw the teaser at the same time. And then like, we're going to go into BravoCon and people are going to be like, hey, did this group of kids lose their way to the Indian wedding that's next door? So it was so amazing to like just connect with people that knew us and love the show. It was just so, so awesome. Yeah, I do think your show coming out, I mean, obviously you filmed it before the pandemic, that first season. But then it premiered right around the time that everything was shutting down.

So maybe there wasn't a lot of events happening or, you know, people connecting in person. But I do think on, in terms of social media and people just being stuck at home, I know that was one of those shows where I was like, everybody. is bored out of their minds. Watch this show. It's, it's fun. It's fresh. And season two felt kind of similar. I definitely more of my friends started watching it.

And it feels like now to come back for season three, you have these two big weddings that everyone, everyone has been like, when are they getting married? We want to see it. It's all happening. And this, I mean, the trailer for this season fully is just like welcome to wedding fantasy land. Literally. Um, no, definitely. Like we, like you said, we filmed season one prior to the pandemic. So, um, but because it was just such a new experience to all of us, we didn't really even, I'm not sure, and I speak for myself, I'm not sure I even enjoyed the experience as much as I should have because you just don't know what the end result is going to be. You don't know what, you know, you don't know what the product is going to look like or what we were doing. Um, and we aired season one, episode one aired March 8th, 2020 and like by the 15th, the world hit. And I think we were expecting for the Indians in America to watch.

But because everybody was stuck at home with no, you know, live sports or live award shows, people were just what they were looking for something light and feel good because everybody was just panicked and chicken little about what the world was going to, you know, the world, what was going to happen in the world. So I think we spoke to a larger audience than we anticipated. Season two is a complete blur because we filmed that during the pandemic and couldn't go anywhere. So this season, it's like the weddings are fantastic. You know, we get to like live our proper Bollywood dream season three and can't wait for all of you to just come along for the ride. I remember when when Vishal and Richa's wedding was happening in Mexico, whenever that was, people were looking on social media because there hadn't been any official announcement

that you guys were doing a third season and people were, you know, zooming into the picture being like, that looks like a camera. I think something's being filmed. And we see it in the premiere. I mean, it's just like larger than life in the best way. It really, even just being there. And again, you know, as a group of friends

and as family, really, we kind of were like, okay, so do we not post on social media because we're filming? But, you know, I think all of us like collectively were like, we're here. We're in the moment. Like, you can't get these moments back. We can't post six months down the road and expect to have that same emotion. So we were just like, you know what? It is what it is.

Let's just, we're here. We're family. Let's just enjoy the gorgeousness that was the wedding. You're like, I worked too hard on my outfits for this weekend. not to be getting some Instagram engagement because of it. I'm really not that great with the phone. Like right now, literally, my AirPods are in. I don't know why they're not working.

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Your next obsession is waiting. Watch only on Prime. Speaking of the outfits, you guys at the Andy's Legends Ball, as a cast, you all decided to wear Indian outfits and you guys looked amazing. It made such an impact. I felt like there were so many people on stage. And for you guys to all walk in together in those outfits, talk about that decision and kind of what that felt like to represent on.

that stage. Oh, God, I just got chills. That's, again, one of those moments that I'll never forget. We, I know that it was me. I know that I decided that I, I made a collective decision this past season that, and by collective, I mean with me, myself and I, that I was going to support our South Asian designers and brands. You know, we have this platform. We're telling this story, and it goes beyond just us. And we, there's such a. craftsmanship and talent behind what we wear, what we eat, what we listen to, and with shows like Bridgerton and Game of Thrones and stuff, people don't realize those costumes and those dresses are getting made like in India. The craftsmanship is coming out of India. So I was very

privy to supporting my South Asian brand. So even going into BravoCon, I was like, I want the world and this group of fabulous people to see that like an Indian outfit is not just about wearing a sari. You can wear a dress, you can wear a suit, all of it. You know, it's, it's, like, the talent is global when it comes to our Indian designer. As far as Andy's Legends Ball is concerned, I send a shout out to the group saying, listen, this is the one, like when we all got our itinerary, this is the one thing that we're going to be doing together. After this, we're here, there, and everywhere, I would love to wear Indian, but I don't want to look like I'm going in costume if everybody else is, like, all suited and booted. Not to mention, that's

fuck am I going up against Beverly Hills and Potomac and like beach like right like nobody's looking at this little slumdog walking in 18 months later I just think it's a good idea to put ourselves out there get noticed and Amrith was on it like we were all just like everybody was like yeah yeah yeah and it was awesome it just worked out really well and I think we killed it you did you did kill it I'm curious so you said like you know that was the one time you were together as a group. Obviously, on this show, we've now seen your friend group kind of evolve over the course of a few years. What has it been like doing this experience of the show now over three

seasons with these people that you've known for a long time prior? Like, how has that changed your relationships do you find? Um, I mean, as you see on the show, like I literally, I say it all the time. I wish they would throw a script at us because you can't make some of this shit up. It's, it's real. So what you see is exactly what you get, you know, and like every friend circle, you've got your shit and you've got your good really high moments. And obviously this past season, there's a lot of highs with the weddings and celebrations. And then, you know, there's some speed bumps and there's some lows. But it just, it's just a revolving door. You know, we have good days.

We have bad days. And most of the time, we're just pretty assholics to each. We're just assholes with each other. Like, you know, we're just always shooting the shit, you know, giving Brian a hard time, aid shaming me. You know what I mean? We're just a normal friends group. And being that I'm the eldest, I try to be the mature, like, voice of reason. It doesn't always work that way.

But, you know, we always have each other's back. It's important. Yeah. And I think also on your show, it's pretty unique how you have the multiple generations. that are really involved and everybody really knows each other. And so, you know, just because two of you might not be getting along, then that can have a different impact with two people's mothers. And, you know, the whole like Auntie vibe is just, it makes it so much more complicated

when people have disagreements and when there are things happening in the group. It's mortifying. It really is mortifying because we do kind of bridge that gap of all generations. So what we say, what we do, how we address each other, what we're wearing, how we're behaving. It really does, like, trickle down to, like, our families and our siblings and, you know, my kid. And we're super mindful of each other. But at the same time, we know that we're, you know, in this for the long haul as far as telling our stories on family karma's concern. And so we just stay authentic.

We just stay authentic. And thankfully, we've got like really great support systems with our families where they're like, listen, you can't shock us anymore with your behavior, Polly. Yeah. What has it been like having, you know, your boyfriend O'Malley and your daughter kind of around during this whole experience? Have they ever been like, what are we doing here? Like, what has that been like? Um, that's a interesting question because Anishka's my toughest and hardest critic. Like I say, I, and I'm, I say this to nauseam, like Twitter doesn't scare me because Anishka is scary than

Twitter. You know what I mean? Like, she's my toughest critic and I've slowly but surely realized not to be so sensitive about it. She's really just, her delivery is really poor, but in essence, she's helping me. Um, and because she's, 21 and sassy. She's always like, well, what am I doing here? Why? But loves it. That I miss a beat or an outfit or a pair of lashes, loves it.

And O'Malley just loves it. Poor guy is just so awkward because he's just awkward. And, you know, he's full-blown adult and just so classy about most things. And he's just awkward, but loves it. And they're both super supportive. Yeah. But definitely like roll her eyes like whatever, mom. But please, love it.

I feel like when you're signing up for an experience like this, especially as you said that first year, you didn't really know what you were getting yourself into. Having that support system must be so crucial because these relationships that are your friends or are your close people in your life, you have to have that on camera. You know,

so the tension might, those might not always be the people that you can text to vent about what you normally would. At all. You really can't because you have to just be super vocal and real and authentic as far as, you know, conversations are concerned because we want to be relatable and we want all of you to witness everything that we're going through in real time. So it's really hard to have those conversations.

And yeah, season one was particularly tough because for me, that's watched Bravo for years, and years before I was on it, the only thing I knew was the Housewives franchise. And I was like, okay, that's scary because A, I will like get one tight slap from my mom and every auntie if I, like, have reactions similar to some of these women that I'm obsessed with. Two, like, Arshund is light. Like, I get nervous if I call somebody a bitch. Good. So, yeah, you know, the initial conversations were tough. And, I mean, after seeing how well received we were and how gracefully we were telling our stories, I think the conversations just became easier and the support became bigger.

Yeah, that makes sense. And I think, you know, not every show, obviously you want to have, you know, interesting stories and you want to have tension happening in any kind of reality show environment. But not every show needs to be, you know, screaming at a dinner party and throwing drinks in the face. Like there can be different sort of wavelengths that really work. And for your group, I think bringing in the families, bringing in the, you know, showing off the cultural elements and all of that stuff, it really makes it feel like a full kind of

experience of a show and of a culture and a group of people. So it's not just like, okay, we hang out and we fight. Right. Well, good. I'm glad you said that. Thank you for saying that. And I'm glad that's being like, I'm glad that's what you are all receiving because that's really how it's like for us. You know what I mean? We just celebrated Diwali our Indian New Year last week. And it was just three or four days after we came back from BravoCon. We're exhausted. We're talked out. We're tapped out. And there we are, partying like one big family. And like it was amazing because nobody when we're together as far as. the community and all the families get together is like, oh, how's the show? You're just normal. We're just normal people, you know? Mm-hmm. Just speaking of relationships this year, I know going into this season, you have been, you know, kind of a dynamic duo with Anisha since season one, and you guys are in a little bit of a strange place going into this year. She's had some life changes that nobody seems to know about.

What was it like approaching this season of filming, knowing that things were a little different, between you two? Truthfully, I was not faze bite. I mean, I miss her. You know, I miss her all the time. I miss hanging out with her as often as we used to. But I wasn't apprehensive or anything. I was just like, okay, I haven't seen her in a bit.

Hopefully she'll fill me in and hopefully she's happy. And we're not going to be like scratching each other's eyes out because she's going to probably drink too much and crash on my sofa. Right. You're like, I don't want to burn a bridge when we are going to be spending all this time together. But, you know. And again, it's a wedding. So it wasn't like we had planned like a date night or a weekend away where it was just the two of us. It was going to be like from the minute you get to the wedding. It's fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, debauchery, debauchery, debauchery. Like, no time off. It's bathing. Breakfast.

outfit, bathing suit, wedding outfit. You know what I mean? Like we're literally going back to the room to shower, get dressed for each other. I'm exhausted just thinking about it, but you guys make it look like a lot of fun. So I was actually excited to see her because we hadn't been in that environment for a minute. So I was excited to catch up with her and kind of figure out, hey, you good, you good, we good. Awesome.

Let's go because I need help with lashes. That's the energy we all should take. taken to our lives. You got to have somebody to help with the lashes. Before we go, I just want, I know you're a Bravo fan and a Housewives fan. And I feel like it would be fun at some point to get a little bit of Bali on like an ultimate girls trip type of vibe. I'm curious to get some throw it out in the universe. What kind of names would you like to see on a trip like that with you from the Bravo universe? Oh my God. Well, can there be trips? I'm all about, like, I was having a meltdown the other day.

I'm like, why is the ultimate girl ship only the housewives? Like, hello. Sutton, because I think she's really fantastic. And I think it would be fun to hang out with her because she's so proper and southern. And I'm trying to be really proper and southern in Louisville. So I love. I want to be with Sutton. I want to be with Paige because she is also like in that,

I've got to be really cutesy for Charleston, but I'm really fabulous. And, like, she's so much younger and fab. So I would love Sutton. I mean, Sutton and Page. I would love Dorit because I'm obsessed. I love me some Sonia Morgan. Yes, okay. I'm some Sonia Morgan.

I love Dolores. And I'm not going to lie, like, the entire crew of Salt Lake City. Those women are so fun. Okay. Well, you have put out a... Oh, my God. You've put out a good little group into the universe. I feel like maybe give it like one more season of girls' trip and we could see some mixing it up of the shows.

Hi, Fandy. Hi, baby. Hi. Hi. She lost her right eye while I was at BravoCon. Oh, my gosh. Does she have little Halloween bows on her ears? It's got like holiday.

like Thanksgiving like fall bows. I love when we get a pet appearance on the podcast. That's always always a pleasure. No longer has a right eye. So she's just like my flirty pirate forever. So totally girls trip down with like Whitney, Sutton, Dolores, all of them. Sonia. Do it.

Amazing. Well, Bali, thank you so much for chatting with me today. I'm so excited for everyone to see season three of Family Karma. It's going to be on Sunday nights on Bravo. So make sure not to miss it. And thank you so much for being here. Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

And I'm going to have fun with you in New York soon. Of course, I can't wait. Thank you, Bali. And thank you so much, everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show. Wherever you listen, you can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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