Mention It All - Kate Chastain On Why House of Villains Felt Like a Vacation Compared to Traitors & Below Deck

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

On this Tuesday episode, Dylan sits down with Kate Chastain for a chaotic catch-up covering House of Villains, Below Deck nostalgia, and Traitors throwbacks. Kate breaks down the House of Villains cast dynamics, who surprised her most, and why certain people were trying way too hard to be “one of the boys.” They also get into life after Below Deck, why Kate feels she left at the perfect time, and how the format lets you break the fourth wall in a way most reality shows never do. She opens up about her unexpected bond with Tiffany “New York” Pollard, what it was like living in the house together, and why the whole experience felt like a vacation compared to the Below Deck grind. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday & Friday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Exclusions apply for licenses, see Home Depot.com slash license numbers. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Mentioned-All podcast. I am so excited to chat with today's guest. She has been on Bravo, on Peacock, everywhere you look. Kate Chastain, welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I'm happy to have you here. It's been a long time that we've been watching you on our screens now across different shows.

And finally, we get to chat. I know. And I'm so excited to talk about House of Villains because I was shocked how much fun it was. I know, you were just telling me. It's one of your favorite shows you've ever done. It's such a different experience. Obviously, you've done lots of different types of shows and hosting and opportunities and things like that. But it's, it's fun to have something that just feels completely new. It's so new. And it's really fun to lean into. You're allowed to be snarky and, like, you know, it's celebrated. And that's always fun. It's so funny because I was thinking about, like, of all the different things you've done, back when you were on below deck, I feel like, the fourth wall was this thing where unless there was like a crazy circumstance, you really didn't, you didn't go there. It was pretty rigid. Traders is a little bit more like, oh, I'm a gamer.

I'm a housewife. You know, we're talking about it a little bit. But House of Villains, it's like kind of the whole show is talking about what you've done on TV. It's breaking the fourth wall. It's looking right at the camera. It's so fun to not have those constraints and just really like, if you have an idea, They're like, let's try it. Yeah.

It's fun. I love, I think it was like on the second episode or something when you were talking to Jackie in the bedroom and you were like, okay, well, if I keep talking to you and hear, the camera's going to come. So like, do you want, do you want that or not? There are a lot of tricks you learn. Like, I know I'm below deck. They made it on there a few times.

Like, I never wanted to be seen like eating on camera. So, but if I had to eat because I was hungry, I would look directly in the camera and eat because I knew they wouldn't use that footage. But then sometimes they wouldn't. I just like a weirdo. Well, it was like back in the, in the pre like Denise. Richards like Bravo Bravo fucking Bravo days like there were a lot more of those little subtle. I'm going to I'm going to just do this over in the corner.

But actually now that I'm seeing House of Villains, the episodes, I didn't realize how much fourth wall they were going to break because you kind of feel like you're safe. Like, oh, they won't use this, but they're like, we will use it all. So it'll be really interesting to see all the moments that they include. Yeah. I'm curious for you obviously doing this show you guys filmed last year. Traders, you know, you did twice, but it's been a couple of years. and you've done lots of like little stuff in between.

But like what was it like kind of getting the call to do House of Villains being like, okay, do I want to travel for this? And you know, you are her mother now. Like there's a lot more in your life. Right. So when they called me to go back to Traders, my second time, my son was only three months old. And so that was a really big, like leave the baby. He's so young.

But it was healthy for me because it kind of reminded me who I was besides just being a mom. And so when I got the call about House of Villains, and I found out it was now going to be on Peacock. It felt right. And it kind of felt like a little vacation. You know? I was like, oh, baby's taking care of. I'm going to be by the pool and have fun.

I feel like you're kind of like the queen of peacock, low key. Thank you so much. I love Peacock so much. It's, I mean, it's been a really good like platform, I think, to get to try different things and, you know, kind of have a little more fun with like the Bravo side of things and the way people come together from different shows. And yeah, it's, it's, it's fun. to have House of Villains kind of like more under that umbrella now. Yeah, I think people who like

traders will also enjoy House of Villains. It's a similar idea that it's all these big personalities from different shows that you know and love all competing. But I think House of Villains is so much more fun. One is very serious. Traders obviously buttoned up, lots of very strict. And House of Villains just leans just leans into the craziness. Was there anyone on this other than Tom Sandoval, obviously Bravo goes way back? Was there anyone else on the season that you had met before or like interacted with? Actually, no. I did know who New York was.

I just didn't know if she wanted to go by Tiffany or New York. Okay. That's really, everything's so shady. I'm like, I actually was trying to be polite. Well, I feel like it's like you guys are, you guys are all in these circles together. You don't know who's seen what. You don't know. You're meeting someone as a person versus as a reality TV character.

I didn't know which name she wanted to go by. And let's see. No, I hadn't ever met anybody. So my biggest surprise was Drita. Okay. I love her. I'm obsessed with her. I never watched Mob Wives.

And if you haven't seen mob wives, you are not ready for Drita. Yeah. She is incredible. Well, it's because, you know, on traitors, it's like people coming together from all different backgrounds, but there's no kind of assumption that, oh, everyone here has done something to be deemed a villain. Right. Whereas on House of Villains, I could see where, if there's, if there's a

there's people whose shows you haven't watched or you're less familiar with, it's like, okay, there must be something. Right. No, when I first stepped into House of Villains, I was a little bit nervous because this wasn't just traitors where it's like people from shows. It's like people's most outrageous characters from shows. Like, you are guaranteed there's going to be drama and people turned up. And that's when there's that many of them, it's overwhelming.

Even like the, when people get like nominated for the hit list, that you're kind of expected to have this like lash out moment. And it's like, oh, on every other show, you just kind of like stand there and are like, oh, man, this sucks that I'm up for elimination. But like, that's the game. No, it's like a roast. It turns into a full on roast. And at first I was like, oh my gosh, this is getting wild. But then it's so fun. Yeah. It is so fun. Well, because I like looking back to a show like below deck, the whole time that you were on that show, you were a manager. You were a boss. there's an expectation of obviously we wanted, you know, the snarky confessionals and things like that, but you also have to like responsibly manage a team.

You have to be nice and supportive. No, so I loved. They're like, no, be bad. Yeah. I can tell that was fun for you. It's so fun. And also, like, let's face it, if you put me in a house with a bunch of, you know, maniacs, there's a lot of material there.

There was no shortage of jokes to be made. Yeah. And it's a, it's a fun group. because you can tell that, like, everybody is, is taking it seriously, but sort of, like, taking it seriously as a bit a little bit. Yes. Everybody's in on it. So it's kind of less insulting because we understand.

This is just for fun. Right. Was there anyone that you kind of, like, maybe were a little bit more, like, authentically annoyed with? Like, where somebody that you just, like, didn't gel with as much? Yeah. I mean, Ashley from the real world, she was rooming with the bull. boys and she just kind of like wanted to be one of the boys and so there was not a lot of like

girl bonding. Okay, something. I thought that she said something where she was like, I always want to work with the girls, but then I realized that none of the girls here have been on competition shows. So I, and I'm like, okay, Kate did two seasons of the traders. New York has been on House of Villains every season. Like, it's a little bit of a cop out. She kind of reminds me of the kind of girl that likes to be a female deckhand because she like wants to be one of the guys, but really it's because she just wants to be around the guys and get attention. I could see that. Yeah.

Yeah, it's an interesting, it's like so funny on this show that like you just sleep wherever you want to sleep. Like you can, it is the way that people kind of artificially draw those lines in the sand of like, I'm going to work with the guys or we have to stick together because we're gamers or whatever. It's like, okay. I have a feeling even if Ashley had not been sharing room with the guys, she still would have gravitated towards them. You know, I think that's what she likes. I mean, the whole like real world challenge, it's a world that I don't spend much time in. It's so interesting how people from different shows are just different vibes.

I learned this even in The Traders. Like the Big Brother people are one way. The Survivor people are one way. It's just a culture. I mean, famously, you and Rachel Riley didn't super get along. Big Brother. She's a Big Brother legend. I feel like you're kind of getting stuck with some of the annoying people from Big Brother.

I think they're all annoying, is my point. that I didn't know you said it I agree no I mean listen it was not like everybody says it's like a feud she was just annoying I never thought she was like equal I mean but I actually like her now because she was a good sport about it I mean I wouldn't want to be stuck in a castle with her again right she was so annoying I think that's kind of why people enjoy your vibe in all of these different arenas though because it feels like you are sort of just expressing like what people would feel in a situation where you're stuck with somebody annoying somebody who's bad at their job, somebody who's not pulling their weight. Like, it's not like a, it doesn't feel like a performance in that way. It's, it's totally authentic. And I laughed with one of the producers, like, oh, I get it. You put me in a house full of wild maniacs so I could make jokes about him. I love this show.

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The last season of Below Deck that you were on, I think filmed in 2019. And so it was like 2020 when you decided that you were leaving. Looking back, I kind of feel like you left at the exact right time. Because 2019 was the first time there was BravoCon. It felt like that was like a moment where the sort of like extended universe of these shows was really just sort of developing. And now in the last five or six years, there's been all of these different opportunities,

you know, even getting to do something like chat room during the pandemic where it was like Bravo people commenting on Bravo shows and events. Like it feels like you really managed to tap into this thing that people have been loving so much. I mean, I've always loved Bravo before I was on Bravo. So in my dreams to keep working on Bravo, but not have to work on a boat.

I'm just, I'm so happy that it worked out. And I did leave it the right time because honestly, I did below deck for six years. I had no more funny jokes about charter guests left in me. I had, I'd used them all. I mean, I was like, I don't know what else to say about the slide anymore or a beach picnic. I just, I'm done. Right. Like next time someone orders a mojito, you already used the mojillo line.

I'm out of jokes. I'm completely out of jokes. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I mean, below deck. And we just had, we just had Daisy here a couple weeks ago talking about down under and everything. But like, she's been doing it five seasons now. I know. And like, it's not a job that you can sort of kind of do.

It's a job that you're either 100% in or it's probably time to find something else. And so I get why after five or six years, it's like, fuck. That's exactly what it is. I mean, and also as you, when you're younger, it's fun to like travel and be with the other people. from other countries. But once you get older, you're like, I just want my own couch and I want my privacy. And maybe I want a dog and a car. Like, I just want to have a land life.

Yeah. It's less exciting. Yeah. But sometimes it's like you go through those like phases in life where it's like I would like my life to be a little less exciting for the next 12 to 18 months. I would love a dull moment. Yeah. I want to be bored.

You're like, I just want to sit on the couch in Florida. I cannot wait to be bored. Yeah, it's there's a time and a place for everything. You know what? I've kind of noticed my life just isn't boring. You know, I don't, I don't see that in my future. What was your like, when you decided that you were done with Below Deck, like, did you have a vision or like a goal of what that next chapter was going to look like? I mean, I never thought I was going to be a Scottish castle or House of Villains, but I'm so happy. I chat room. was kind of the vibe I wanted to go because I loved Bravo. I watched all the shows and I didn't want to leave the Bravo world. Yeah. I think it's interesting. When you mentioned that Tom Sanival like hadn't talked to you at Bravo Con. I was thinking about, I feel like sometimes something that I see among people on Bravo is that the people that are on like Housewives or a show like Vanderpump don't always know or like appreciate the impact of some of the other shows that aren't their shows.

We were at the same dinner table. It wasn't like we just ran at each like at BravoCon and passing in the hallway. We were at the same dinner table. So that's why it was like, come on, man, you can at least like talk to me. Yeah. That's why it was weird. But also like I even fan out at BravoCon. I remember Craig walked in one BravoCon and I wave to him because I felt like I know him.

Then I was like, wait, have we ever met? Yeah. Am I supposed to wave to him? I was so embarrassed, but he's very sweet. But I think people like, it's like, Below Deck was a, I mean, is such a massive franchise. And there are people who have never watched an episode of Housewives that Below Deck is their favorite show. And I think like recognizing that kind of balance is important. Yeah, I mean, Below Deck has a lot of franchises. It's been on for a very long time. But I get it. You can't watch all the shows. There are some Bravo shows that I still haven't watched.

Hard to believe. And I watch them all. What has your relationship with watching shows evolved over the years? Rachel Zoe was the one that really got me hooked on Bravo. And so when I heard she was coming back to Beverly Hills, it was like a full circle moment. I was so excited. And I can't get over how amazing she's doing on Beverly Hills because I wasn't sure. On Rachel Zoe, that was her world. She was like the boss.

And it was all about fashion. And I wasn't sure how she would do it a more ensemble. And she's killing it. I die. Yeah, it's great. And it's fun because it's fun to see people in different environments where it's like, okay, you were doing something more career focused now. Now it's more, you know, real life.

We're following you. Yeah. You never know what you're going to get from somebody in a different scenario. Yeah. And honestly, being on a show like The Housewives is not as easy as one would think. I always thought when I was on below duck, I'm like, God, the other people Bull and Bravo, it's so easy. They don't have to work. But actually, because Below Deck has the job aspect to it, that's a built-in stakes, built-in story, like follow the job that creates drama.

Without that mechanism, like, they have to make their own personal lives, like the drama and the storyline. And that's, that's stressful. Right. Like, nobody is ever showing up to your house at 9 a.m. to film for Below Tech. Oh, you're always there. But, like, you have to make the drama yourself out of your own life. Yeah. Would you, has there ever been an opportunity or would you even be interested in like a show that was more doc you, whatever, following yourself? I mean, you never know what the future holds, but I mean, I do love the camera.

Okay. And I do know some people at Bravo. Okay. So it's not a hard no. It's not a hard no. Okay. Because I do think like with below deck is so interesting because we meet these people from all over the world who are working in this industry and come together for, you know, short amounts

of time. And there are all these interconnected relationships and, you know, things outside of what we see on the cameras. But it's, it's so different from like a housewives where it's like seven women who live in the same city. I think I would really love it. I would figure it out how to thrive because I would love to have a nice scheduled filming window, get some glam, not wear a uniform, not be on a boat. Like, I think I could adjust. I think it would be great. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's fun. I know people are always loving to see your relationship with Ben. I know, but that's better distance.

I love him in small doses, but like once every two months. It's so funny because- One night, dinner. Watching him back on Down Under this season, I was looking back of like all the seasons that he's been on. I'm like, I can't believe he's still doing this. Like, to be honest, it's been a long journey for him. When I heard he was going back,

I was worried for him because it's also a very physical job to be a chef on a yacht. He's on his feet all day for 12 hours and all the pressure. And I'm so proud of him for having the courage to do it and then doing it well. Yeah. It's been a fun season to watch of Down Under. It kind of feels like a little bit of like an all-star crew. Having the housewives was really fun. Oh, that was so good.

It is an all-star crew. I said that earlier. And I think I'm really enjoying this season of Ben the most because he's a little bit more vulnerable. He's not as egotistical as he, I mean, he's still been, but like, you know, he's showing parts of him that we haven't usually seen.

Yeah, I think it's sometimes with below deck specifically, it's like it can feel like we don't know anything about certain people outside of the show. And I think, you know, with his engagement and stuff and him talking about that this year, it is like a little bit more of that window that maybe we don't always get. Yeah, and then also

having the sous chef forcing him to kind of like be patient. And, And like I see him trying so hard when he's frustrated and I think that's good growth for anyone. Is it hard for you to watch below deck like episodes now like looking back that you've been on it so much? I mean, I am enjoying this season because Ben's on it. But like, yes, of course. I think even like people who are in the medical field are like, I can't even watch ER or Grey's Anatomy. Because that's not the right tube.

That's not the right thing. No, yes, when I watch below deck, I will always be like, why are using those gloves? Why'd you set the table that way? You know something's going to go wrong 10 minutes before it actually does. Yeah, and it's kind of frustrating. I'm like, oh. But it's like not enough to go back. No, no, no, no. No, no. I know what? If they offered me a ridiculously obscene amount of money and I could go back for one week only. Like one, one charter. One charter. Yeah. And I would do the laundry. I wouldn't, I don't want to deal with the guests. I would, I, you get to hang out down laundry room. I would just fold, hey, hi, waving to the crew. Yeah, I mean, just maybe for that,

but I don't think they would like that. Maybe, maybe like a House of Villains charter. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine? No. I would jump off the boat myself. I would swim to shore. Picturing like Christine Quinn as a charter guest. I could see that actually. She's quite fabulous. She's quite fabulous. She is. And I'm sure plane would wear some crazy outfits. It'd be fun. Okay, one thing though, I feel like we almost never see on this kind of show that watching How the Villains is giving me like Adjada is the luggage. I feel like you guys have no place to put the suitcases. There's just like stuff strewn around the rooms everywhere.

Christine brought a lot of stuff and she doesn't love to put things away. It's thriving Drita insane. And you're right. We were always stepping over our suitcase. Why didn't we put our suitcases away? I don't know. know why because also it was a competition show so you didn't know if you were going home the next day so why am I getting too comfortable right and like you don't know like which day am I going to need my

like renaissance costume exactly you know those normal kind of problems we all face yeah so I think really putting your suitcase away would feel too like um sure thing when it's not guaranteed it is like it does feel like a kind of show where like everybody always is like okay So tomorrow I'm going home and you just like don't have any kind of security. There's a lot of twists and turns in this season. And that's what makes it so fun. Yeah, it does feel like one of those things where you just sign yourself up for like, okay, the next two weeks, like, I'm sleeping at these shared bedrooms.

Joel McHale is going to call me out to the backyard whenever he wants. Yeah, you have to get real comfortable with having very little control over what each day will hold. Because every day for the purpose of a great show, they're going to throw in a bunch of exciting changes. Yeah. Ready to soundtrack your summer? With Red Bull Summer All Day Play, you choose a playlist that fits your summer vibe the best.

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So keep it real. Look for the seal. Real California milk. Does it get easier now that you've done two seasons of traitors, one season of House of Villains, to be in those situations where you have so little control? I think I have the advantage because also on below deck, I was used to living in shared spaces, confined, no clocking out. But it's hard no matter what. I think it really depends on who's your cast, who are you living around.

And the House of Villains, that was a stacked cast of big personalities. So it wasn't the easiest. It was, it has been fun to see. It feels like after that initial moment with New York, like, you guys have have a little bit of a bond going. I know. I think we're besties. I don't know if she agrees, but I loved having her as a roommate because we really did get along eventually. And also, I knew she would pick the best room because she's done it so many times. You know, I was like, oh, New York, okay. I bet she's got the best one. It is like, I mean, you mentioned how this show is just so like camp and ridiculous and fun, but like the running gag of New York just, being on every season is really good. I know. She's so funny. She's a genius. I keep saying,

I think she's the Lucille ball of our generation. Yeah. Because she just is over the top and she can, she's such a good performer. And she has been in the game for two decades plus at this, I mean, truly like to, to have that type of longevity where there's not a,

it's not housewives where she's been on 15 seasons in a row. Yeah. she has figured out how to continue to be in that conversation. That's how good she is. And it's watching the show. It's like, yeah, I get it. She's a genius. When she asked Tom Sandoval if he was Jackie Chan's grandson.

The audacity she has. I mean, that's what makes her so funny. You just never know what she's going to say. It's always wild. How does it feel to know that people are putting you in that same? kind of conversation of like a reality TV figure that you want to bring back and see over and over again. What does that feel like? Well, I do love financial security. So that feels great. I like working and I love it's so fun to make TV. It's really, it feels like elevated normal life

because you're putting on a little show. Yeah. It's so fun. I mean, speaking of financial security, I understood what you meant about Jojo Siwa doing special forces. Hello. Hello? Thank you. Because the fact that Tom Sandoval and her were doing this, I'm like, it's not the same. What happened, Jojo? Are you okay? And then she did Celebrity Big Brother. And now she's with the guy, I think. Okay, that one worked out better.

But they had toilets on Celebrity Big Brother. On the other one, she was like on the desert camping. I don't think I could do. I'd never. Seeing Teresa and Gia do it together last season, it's just like. Never. They say never, say never. I'm saying never.

I would never be that uncomfortable. I do feel like House of Villains, the challenges are a little less, like, physically exerting than Traders, at least. That's another reason I like it. You don't have to run up a mountain. I know when I did Traders, I didn't know when going into it was going to be so physical, but all the physical health things they had us do should have been a clue. But, yeah, the House of Villains were more fun and, yeah, it's not climbing a mountain.

Yeah. Jumping out of a helicopter. Oh, I will never forget. I talked to Fadro when she was on Traders and she was like, like I had to find somebody to give me an EKG on Saturday because they it was like a tight turnaround. It's crazy. The EKG really should have been the clue.

Well, when you did Traders, it was the first season and nobody, nobody knew. The executive told me I was going to go to a castle and play a game like Clue. Right. Okay. I think you were, I mean, you were arguably maybe the first person to really go viral on Traders. For sure. like the bags of money and all of that and Rachel. And it is kind of crazy to see the impact that that show has had over the last few years.

I know. I'm so proud of it. It's doing so well. And it's such a fun game. And I think it could go on for a very long time because even me watching it season after season, I see different ways I could play the game and new strategies. And so it's really only getting started. Yeah.

And I mean, House of Villains and Traders, I think, both just like the cast. is so strong. Yeah. And that's not, it's not an easy, it's not an easy job, but to find the right group of people and to get the right people to want to do it. It's, it's really impressive. Yeah, I agree. I think, um, this cast for House of Villains was absolutely genius. Yeah. It's so good. Is there anyone, you know, we've just kind of started getting into the season. Is there anyone that you feel like people are really going to be like surprised by or like really just kind of like living for over the course of the season. Yeah, me.

Okay. I mean, I guess that's not a surprise. It's a very like House of Villains answer. I'm in my villain era and I love it. Would you, five or six years ago, how would you have felt about the label of villain? You know, I still wouldn't exactly call myself a villain, but then somebody asked me like, well, who would you put on a show called House of Heroes? And I said, boring.

Who wants to do that? So actually I'm embracing the villain vibe and I like it. Well, it's so, because like 15 years ago, Survivor did a season that was Heroes versus Villains. Oh, right. And it was like, I can't have villains. Because it was like Parvety and Sandra and Tyson. Like it was like those are the, I mean.

I mean, we love our heroes too. Sandra, I don't feel like she's a villain. She's so sweet. Did you watch her first season of Survivor? No. Okay. There's a reason why Sandra was the first ever two-time Survivor winner. Oh, she's smart.

She's smart. I still remember on the traders when she had the pool balls and was telling everyone how the game was going. And it was like, that's a brain. That's a mind. That was the moment I was like, oh, wow. She is playing a different game than I am. You're like, I kind of just came here because I could get a little more attention, a little more screen. Yeah.

She's like playing a game here with numbers. Who knew? No, Hustavillans, I don't think anybody's going to be getting into like math so much. but you never know. I don't know. It's a very fun show. I'm having a good time watching it so far, and I hope other people will check it out too.

It's such a good show, and it just gets better and better every episode. Anything on the reality TV bucket list for you? Any shows that you want to put out there into the... Oh, you know, what do I do dancing with the stars? Maybe, but it's not like I'm dying for it, because that sounds like a lot of cardio. It's a lot of cardio.

Yeah. That's the thing with it. Everybody always... automatically goes to like she should do dancing with the stars, put that person on dancing with the stars. It's a real commitment. Yeah, no, I'm really happy in my peacock lane. I'm really happy. Put me in a house. Uh-huh. I love a house, maybe a lounge chair. I'm liking it. Well, dancing with the stars, there's just like really limited opportunities to be like shady and messy and- Exactly. I would do House of Villains again. It's so fun.

I feel like House of Villains, especially now that it's on Peacock. developing a little more of like that extended universe. Like New York comes back every season. People are going to pop up. Yeah, I mean, even this season, it's like bananas is driving the motorcycle and Candy Muse is in the, you know, like. Exactly. Just a really weird family. Really weird fun stuff.

Yeah, exactly. And what, I mean, what else is reality TV for? It's going to be so fun. I'm excited. Kate, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me. Thanks, everyone. Don't forget to review, subscribe, watch House of Villains on Peacock.

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