Mention It All - Kathy Griffin on Being “The Most Canceled Celebrity Ever” Ft. Kathy Griffin

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

On this week’s video episode, Dylan is joined by the one and only iconic Kathy Griffin for a truly unfiltered conversation about her career, comedy, and comeback. Kathy opens up about rising from the ashes after her most controversial moments, her deep love for the gay community, and why she proudly calls herself “the most canceled celebrity ever.” She looks back on her Bravo beginnings with ‘Life on the D-List’, finding the funny in absolutely everything, and why she’s now the self-proclaimed captain of all gay cruises. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See Home Depot.com slash price match for details. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Mentioned at All podcast. I am thrilled to be joined today by an iconic comedian, an Emmy and Grammy winner. She has done it all. And now she's here to talk to us today. Kathy Griffin, how are you doing? I'm so excited to be here. Look, I have never missed an episode of this pod.

And I love the name, Betches, because it's a play on Bitches. Yes. Is this not Betches? Yeah. No, I'm kidding. I, you called it something else when you did your intro. The name of the, I mean, Batchez is like the company. Do people know you guys have a building?

This is a big money-making thing here. What kind of scam is this? This is a front for the mafia or something. I think there's some shadiness going on here. Yep. I'd like to see your books. I would like to call Susie Ormond, who's the lesbian. So don't say no.

And I would like Susie and I have a couple of weeks to just open the books at this place and see how the money is really made. I have not seen the books either. Well, for the record. You could be part of a crime ring. Well, I'm so excited to have you here today. Personally, I have seen all of your stand-up specials. Oh, my God.

That's 21. I've done 21. You have a Guinness World Record, I believe. I'm in the Guinness Book of World Records for having done the most stand-up comedy specials of any comedian male or female living are dead. How about that is a fuck-you-you? That's like a big fuck-you-da. It is crazy, though, because I was looking back-

I'm funny. I remember watching a lot of those, they would comment. to me, you know, growing up, I grew up in the Midwest, they would come to me. It was like YouTube clips or, you know, whatever, like broken up into segments, sped up, slowed down. You were cranking out. I mean, I think one of those years, you had four different specials in the same year. Because they came to me and they go, what if you did seasonal specials? And I was like, all right. And I was already doing two a year at the time. So I'm like, what's two more? And on top of that, that was, you know, you had. And by the way, I write my own

shit, not like Ellen. Allegedly. Sorry. Allegedly. Well, you were one of the first kind of on the LN, you know, asking questions. I was right. Like, let's just, let's just say I'm Kathy Griffin. I was right about a lot of shit, okay? I was right about the Trump head. I was right about a lot of people. And, you know, I still get shit for it.

And I'm not actually trying to kill the president, but you know that picture is going to hold up. In time, people are going to be like, you know, it's not so bad. So as somebody who's been a fan of you for a long time, I'm so glad that now it's 20, 25, and that everything comes back around. I'm sort of, I don't want to say uncanceled because I'm still canceled to a degree and it will always be. Right. But I'm kind of like coming back a little bit, I think.

You know, oh, here's how I know. Yes. People magazine, which is a magazine that people my age live by. Yeah. Like we think it's like the Bible. It's at the dentist's office. It's very important. So they wrote an article about me and it was a two page picture.

So the crease was down my face, which is one of my faces. It's not very de-list. No, very A-list. And it was called Risen from the Ashes. How about that shit? By the way, does it get more people magazine? Risen from the Ashes. And there's a picture of me and I look triumphant.

And this was just like a week ago. And probably the next page is like somebody's divorce. Yeah, of course. And somebody's gained weight or wearing mom jeans. Kathy Griffin has risen from the ashes. Risen from the Ashes. It's like I wrote it. Well, it's like you're on tour.

I'm on tour. I have a YouTube show once a week. My special that you watch. I'm so flattered because, you know, you do a special, you put it on YouTube and you don't know. Because if it's on a network or a streamer, they tell you. And by the way, they love to tell you bad numbers. That's all they tell you. But on YouTube, I'm like, I don't know, like views, but I don't know if people liked it or whatever.

So it's on YouTube. It's called Kathy Griffin, My Life on the PTSD list. Get it. It's a callback. And it's feature length. I'm warning you. Yeah. It's an hour and 50 minutes.

But the thing is, I think, thinking back to when you had, when you have, when you had so many specials and you were really just, I mean, it was like, I lived three months, I came back, I did another special. Right. You've lived a lot of life in the last eight years, you know. I was missing. I was on the fucking no fly list. I mean, I have stuff to talk about.

You've risen from the ashes and there's a lot to tell. Yeah. I mean, if even people, magazine agrees with what you just said. And I went through a lot of stuff too that was a little on the serious side. By a little, I mean, a lot. I was on a 5150 cycle. for three days in the nut bin. Now, I've had other crazy people come up to me and say they find it offensive when I say nutbin.

But I feel as someone who was in the nut bin, I kind of have a pass. You have the street cred. I kind of do. When you're on lockdown and the psych ward, you can call it whatever you want. Because somebody is smearing feces on the wall. I wonder for you, though, when you're working on material and deciding what to include, obviously, you still have the great celebrity stories that people have always. always loved. There's a lot of humor in it. They keep coming. They, you know, they never learn

these celebrities. They still behave badly around me. Sometimes I'll look at a celebrity and I'll tell them in the moment, you just walked into my act. You just walked into my act. And I like, half the time to this day, they're like, what? Just because I'm doing coke off so-and-so's ass at a party or something. And so I just want you to know, I do give celebrities fair warning. But deciding to include some of the more serious stuff, what is it like for you, maybe that wasn't always something that was part of your act, but now coming back after these, you know, things that you've gone through, really like putting it all out there. What is that like for you at this point? Well, it's actually not that different. I'll tell you why. My whole career, my act has

been based on my life. Like before I was on TV, my act was mostly about my family and dating. Then I got on TV and I started to see behind the curtain of what really goes on in Hollywood. And then my act became about, oh my gosh, I'm on a TV show with this celebrity or that celebrity and guess what they're really like. So then my act has always been my life. And so when my life became so crazy, primarily starting with the Trump head photo, it was just a series of things, everything from addiction to, you know, divorce to, I got cancer. I never smoked. I got lung cancer. I had half a lung removed.

And then it just starts to become funny because it's the law of shit was so intense that I thought, okay, I have a history of finding the comedy in anything. There must be comedy even in this. And I think you found it. I mean, there are a couple stories in that special, which I want people to go watch it. So I won't spoil all the details. But like, you find some humor and some pretty dark stuff and watching it. The audience is like, okay, where's this going? You got to buy it.

Am I going to leave this being like, oh my God. Because it's all true. I tell a story about when I tried to take my life, which is not a topic I'm making fun of. Honestly, I'm not trying to be an insensitive asshole. I just tell my story. But because I was so fucked up on drugs, it ended up. being funny, not at the time, but, you know, later it got funny. And look, we do have a history of people doing that. Charlie Sheen is going on and I was fucked up to her and I find it fascinating

because I didn't think Charlie Sheen would ever come back from the winning and like the whole phase with the tiger blood and you watch somebody that you feel like you grew up with meltdown. And now he's like back and he's sort of adorable again, but he's honest about the stories. And so, you know, we do have a history, especially in Hollywood, we do kind of like a comeback. I think if the person's willing to admit they were down. And I was down, down, I mean, I was down for the count. I was, nobody was more canceled than I was. Let's admit it. I'm the most canceled celebrity in the history of canceled celebrities. These other celebrities that were canceled for a week, I'm like, ha ha ha, laugh at you. Try seven years. Try seven years. Yeah, one gig. Oh, I got fired from one

gig. Try being on the no-fly list. And so I had to figure out some way to come back. And as usual, comedy was the only, the best boyfriend ever had. What has it been like being? Like Fergie and meth. Fergie says that about meth, Fergie, who I love, by the way. She says meth was the most difficult boyfriend she ever had to break up with. And I, my spin as comedy is my best boyfriend. But I do think of Fergie when I say that. Always thinking of Fergie. You know, I miss Fergie. Where is Fergie? I feel like she should be having hit record. and touring in stadiums. Because she's an amazing vocalist, and she's still hot, and I just feel like she's missing.

Like, you guys abducted her in this building. She'll be back. Is she in this building or not? I have not seen Fergie. Okay, that's not a no. That is a maybe, and that's you trying to cover your ass because I just sign something. Once we wrap, Kathy, we'll be checking every no-king thing. Yes, I will.

I'm looking for Fergie, and I want her to start singing again. But what has it been like the last, you know, couple of years being back out on the road, seeing all your fans again. Amazing. All the gays. The gaze never let me down. Now, the power gaze in Hollywood turned on me. And that hurt.

That hurt me right in my gut. Because I was like, really, guys, I showed up for every freaking charity event, every drag contest, every fundraiser in the world. And now when I need you, you know, so that was hurtful. But the real life gays were there. I mean, I remember when the Trump had picture happened, I wasn't looking online at all because it was so deadly. but someone sent me a video of some gays on Fire Island all dressed as me with the Trump

Halloween mask with ketchup on it. And I was like, God, love the gays. Right there. I mean, it was like day two of them thinking I was a member of ISIS. And then here's Fire Island. And so I thank God for the gay audience. And I, you know, I love gay audiences for a very simple reason. You can't shock gay people. Gay people are so oppressed. And in this country, it's getting worse. And if I can get serious, for one second. Any of your audience members, please get politically involved. Stay involved at the local level as well. Elections are not every four years or every two years. They're every year. In California, we have them going on now called Prop 50. It's about gerrymandering. But I just want to say separately to the gay community, be careful. You guys, he's going to go for you. I'm telling you right now. He's going for the gay people. And he started with the trans community. And he's going after gay rights because gay rights are civil rights. I mean, your entire career have been such an outspoken ally activist, you know, going back even, you know, there's all these moments from life on the D list. When AIDS was the gay flu.

And, you know, they didn't even have the word AIDS yet. Prop 8 in California and all. I mean, you, you've been in the trenches for a long time. And I think, I think that maybe if people aren't paying attention, it's like, oh, yeah, like, you tell a lot of jokes, but you also, you've always stood by your values like that. And by the way, I know I shouldn't have done that rant because we're doing like a fun, lighthearted podcast. But I tend to do that every show as well. I tend to be in the middle of a joke. And then I'll be like, wait, this candidate is gay.

Or I'll be in a city where they have a gay mayor and I'll stop the show and I'll give a shout out to that mayor or whatever. But I do have a history of ranting now and again no matter where I am. Well, you talk about your act that one of the first places that you were sort of welcomed back was performing on a gay cruise, which feels correct. I am the veteran of. 18 gay cruises. There is nothing I haven't seen. There's no room I haven't walked in on at the wrong time. There's no door I've been afraid to open.

Do you know what they call the jacuzzi on a gay cruise? Egg drop soup. Hold on, slow clap. Well done, gays. Well done. That's the jacuzzi. I'm sorry, hot tub. Oh, I'm sorry.

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You are a reality TV pioneer. I mean, come on. My life on the deal is. 20 years. 20 years. I feel like it was yesterday. It was so real. I'm so happy it's on Peacock.

I don't get a pen. but I'm happy people can rediscover my mom and dad. We got to have the royalty conversation. I mean, seriously. Give the housewives their money. Give Kathy her money. It's really true. I mean, it's really true.

I kind of wish Bethany had done that Bethany saying, whatever she was, she ended up making it into like a vanity fear piece. But anyway, she has enough power where she could talk about the reality reckoning. That's what she was talking about. Yeah, they should pay those. I know a lot of those girls and, you know, they get DUIs and they go bankrupt and the husbands get deported and they go to prison. I mean, these are real women having to go through real problems to try to keep up with the Joneses.

I don't know if people realize, though, so my life on the D-list 20 years ago, 2005, it started. And they would follow me around for six months, just hoping I did funny shit. But that was, there was no Kardashians yet. No, that was no real housewives yet. The Kardashians was soft-scripted. The Hills was soft-scripted. My life on the D-list was them going, what's she doing? Is she being funny today?

we'll see if we can throw out of a plane. Every year they would pitch throwing me out of a plane. I'm not kidding. Every year I would call Bravo and be like, isn't my life hard enough? What if she goes on a plane and we throw off a plane? By the way, they've done that on like reality shows already.

They always have a scene on the freaking Bachelor where he wants to propose while they are flying out of a fucking plane. Yeah. So I, 20 years ago, 2005, I mean, reality TV. You're a little gay boy in Midwest. And your mom didn't know. gay yet. In 2005, I mean, she knew.

I hadn't. Had you had the convo? Not in 2005, no. Okay. But there was reality TV. I mean, there was Amazing Race. There was Nick and Jessica. There was the Osbournes.

But for you as somebody who had the- But they weren't comedically driven. Right. Like they were funny. The TV background. But I was a professional comedian. Right. Trying to basically do a sitcom disguised as a reality show.

So my goal every week was to make the show as funny as possible, not me having fights with my mom or flipping tables or, you know, getting drunk and falling down and hurting myself or getting DUIs. I wanted everything to be about, Kathy is doing a new crazy thing to try to get from the D list, at least to the C minus list. Right. And everything had to be driven. So that's why when they'd say, what if we have you go to a country club and you don't know how to drive the golf cart, I'd say, well, that happens on every reality show. And also that wouldn't help get me on the A list. What helps we get on the A list is if I bust into a fundraiser where Secretary Hillary Clinton is, and then I walk in front of her

when the Papps are taking her picture, the paparazzi, and then it looks like I'm in a picture with Hillary Clinton, which I did. And I apologize to her to this day every time I see her. Well, and, you know, now you're seeing Hillary Clinton. Now I'm in a position where she tweeted one time after I had lung cancer, she freaking tweeted something about me. Like, we need Kathy Griffin. And I was like, Hills. I don't call her Hills. I don't know.

You're a bestie. Yeah. My bestie. But yeah, whatever it would take to try to get me from the D-List to a higher letter and whatever that entailed. And I think that's partly why it holds up so well. Because like you mentioned it getting added to Peacock a couple of years ago. Yeah.

They added this whole raft of old Bravo content. I love old Bravo. I got to say. Can I say, though, people, when that was happening, it was. It was like 20 shows or something they were adding. And people were like, I can't wait to watch the Rachel Zoh project. Yes. Tabitha Salon Takeover.

Oh, love. And my life on the D-List because it was really hard to find. But they were real. Like, I don't know Rachel Zoh that well, but I think she's really like that. And I think that show was real. Remember, they had like big stars and she would be dressing them. And on my show, one thing that I'm very proud of is, you know, they would test the show, right? And of course, I test terribly because I'm annoying and I have a scratchy voice.

and all this shit. And my parents would test through the roof. So I would love it when Bravo would call me and say, we are mandating scenes with John and Maggie. So they were drunk anyway. So I'd be like, perfect. And the thing that was great about my parents is they helped humanize me, because I was kind of a character, although I'm just like that. But I mean, I had to think of myself as a character. And they just were themselves. And the other thing that I think was, if I can say groundbreaking, because I'm complimenting them. They were seen and were such gay allies, but they never came out and said,

we love gay people and we believe in gay rights. My mom and dad just were. They just were allies to the community. And I am so proud of that. You know, they didn't necessarily, like, want credit for it, but they just believed, for whatever reason, you know, gay people should not have to go through the crap they go through. And there were many situations that I was able to put my mom and dad into in like, you know, on the dealist where they'd be around a bunch of gay people.

And it was refreshing to see real live, plain old, Midwestern, older folks, comfortable with gay people, laughing with the gay people. And that's one thing I'm proud of from that show. And your, I mean, the way that you, obviously they were on the show with you and the way that you talked about them in your standup was just, just like so all true rich i mean they wouldn't say that hilarious my mom would say oh you're exaggerating the box of wine i don't have that much god damn wine pour me a cup but i'm not having more than seven and there's nothing wrong with seven wines Kathleen you got to tip the box tip it tip it honey so all the it's at the bottom so tip it and then it comes out the spigot of the box my parents should have gotten a campaign from phronsia i'm not kidding they should have been on a fucking super bowl ad for boxed

But how amazing that you're that you're able to have all of those memories and things. Yeah. To look back. I mean, because it's incredible. Although I haven't watched the show since it aired. I watched, no, I watched the pilot because I wanted to do a rewatch podcast, which literally nobody wanted. That's the story of my career. I have stuff nobody wants. And so I made one episode and one of my former assistants who I'm still good friends with, he kind of walked me through it. So he was like the co-host. And I watched episode one. holy shit, they worked the fuck out of me on that show. I was in like seven locations. Okay, I watched weeks for one episode. I was watching the first episode. I was exhausted. You're at like three different charity events in one episode. Hosting, hosting, not just even like attending.

I mean, I can't believe the shit I did on that show. There was an episode where I had a contest to come live with me for the weekend. And then I, the kid won. And then like an idiot, I have them live at my real house. I don't have security or anything. And I make my parents stay overnight, who are already in their 80s, and they're like security, and they sleep down the hall. But who else does this? No real celebrity would be like, yes, come to my actual house and stay there for the weekend.

Well, I think it was kind of like the Wild Wild West, because like nobody had really done shows like that before. So we would come up with ideas and we didn't really think through if this was safe or sensible. If it was funny, I did it. I'm so curious from your point of view, being on Bravo in those days, what was it like kind of living through the beginning of the Housewives universe? Well, it was amazing because remember that show was inspired by Desperate Housewives, the very expensive ABC scripted show with Eva Longoria and Terry Hatcher. And then, of course, the Bravo thought, how can we do it in a way that's cheap?

And, you know, just like, I was supposed to have an NBC sitcom. Right. And then they thought about it and thought about it. And they were like, she doesn't necessarily need writers at all. She's just naturally funny. And I was so dumb. I was like, what a high compliment for a hundredth of the price I would have gotten on NBC. But I was thrilled to do the show.

But it was cool to be around them because certainly year one of the housewives. I still probably watch OC if I'm going to watch any of them. Yeah. Because I do feel it was such a wild time to be around them. And I do feel that show was pretty real. Like it got scripted more later. And I think they fell into like the same six archetypes. But that first group, yeah, I didn't even know what that housing project was, Coda de Caza or whatever.

I didn't even heard of it. And I live like an hour and a half away from there. Yeah. But I didn't even know people lived like that. It really did feel like a peak behind the gates. Yeah. Behind the gates. And then there was like an in-house insurance company that we worked for, which I think is questionable.

She's still doing it. I heard there were some financial questionable moves, but I might be wrong about that also with Mauricio. But, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. And that is what's funny. When I think about my life on the deal list, it really was innocent. Yeah. Like, it was just everything was out there, was out there.

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I love there was also an episode where you were being Peresilton's new BFF and Jill Zeran is there like okay so we're taping first of all I couldn't believe paris agreed to do the show because I've been so vicious to her in my act

and they're like sure she'll do it And let me say, spending the day with Paris Hilton in the early 2000s, the way the paparazzi stalked those girls was criminal. I was scared shitless. She was walking down the street with her. And I remember her going, hungry tigers. I call them hungry tigers. And I was like, what? And then I learned how to speak her language.

And yet, everywhere she went, she kept her cool. And not only did I get to walk in her shoes for a minute, but it was, it fit in perfect. with the theme of the show of trying to be on the A list because Paris is one of the most famous women in the world. And we're filming in what was this super trendy store called Kitsyn. I couldn't even get in. But on the show, they let me in. And then one of the producers comes up and they're like, Jill Zarin is here. And I'm like, okay, well, that's nice, but we're working.

And they go, she wants to be in the scene. And I'm like, under what premise? Like, how do I even justify? Paris and I are doing a bit about how Paris is buying $10,000 worth of merchandise, and then she gets kind of eggs me on to run up a tab of like 10K, and I'm trying to figure out how to get out of it because I can't afford it. But I'm, and then Jill Zarin, finally they said, well, she's just going to walk in. And that's what I'm saying is this show, when I say this show was down and dirty.

Right. I'm telling you, it was one cameraman many days. Like one camera guy, one sound guy, one producer. and, you know, when we had two cameras, it was a big day. And we probably had two, that one because of Paris. But, you know. They brought out the big guns for Paris. Seriously.

And so then eventually, Jill either unplanned walked in the scene or they just said something like, figure it out. And then I'd have to watch the episode again. I don't even remember. But I distinctly remember being in a, quote, scene with Paris Hilton, and it's going one way. And then we stopped down for one second. And then they're like, Jill Zarin is here.

And I just remember going like, and? I mean, not nothing against Jill. She's the night's girl. But I didn't know what to do with her. And she insisted. And then I thought, well, I guess it's a good Bravo crossover. And I believe she walks in the scene and it's on screen. She is.

And has like a little three-person convo. And I remember Paris also thinking, now what's happening? First, I got to deal with Kathy Griffin. Now I got to deal with this one. You know, so I saw that clip. on TikTok. And it's so interesting because since the show has been back on Peacock, there is this whole new wave of people who are either watching it for the first time. Like young people?

Well, I don't know how young, but like, you know. But that's my dream is people discover it because. But I think people are. And I've seen even, I think the sort of the one of the benefits of social media is that there are people who maybe have never watched the show. But they see a clip and they're like, this is funny. what is this? Where is this from? How can I find more of it?

I'm a TikTok sound. Do you know what that is? Yes. So I'm a sound. Yes. But what's weird about being a sound is that they don't say who it is or what it's from. But there's two lines from D-List.

One of them is, I need to talk to a gay person. I need to talk to a gay person. And that was real. And it was, I was pre-show in, like, Albany or whatever. And I was with my tour manager. And there was something technically going wrong. And I, you know, I'm on in 10 minutes or whatever. and I'm nervous.

And I just remember saying to him, I need to talk to a gay person. I need to talk to a gay person. And he knew that meant a gay person will figure it out. And then I will jump into action and I will find homosexual or a lesbian or the other letters. And so that became a sound. And then another one was when I did a scene,

I thought, I wonder what it would be like to do stand-up in a prison. So we did an episode about doing stand-up in a women's prison and men's prison. And then when I went to the solitary confinement wing at the women's prison, this woman yelled out her little window, I'm going to kill you. And just,

I'm so used to hearing people say that to me, that I just go take a number, honey. And then that became a TikTok sound. But I have to just be honest and say the egomaniac in me is like, oh, I wish it would say like, this is from Kathy Griff of my life on the deal. Yeah,

sometimes you kind of have to dig a little bit. Yeah. But it's so, I mean, it just is, it's, I think, great to see that it's like something so off the cuff and natural like that.

Oh, when I see like young people lip syncing in on TikTok, I'm super flattered. I can't believe that. I'm excited. Yeah. And I think, I mean, for you, even some of the, some of the standup stories from those specials, it's like people love especially, I think more than anything else, anything about the view just gets people, all of the, you know, those stories from back in the day that you would tell.

How has there not been several docu series about behind the scenes of the view? Like, yes, which that writer called me, and I think I was afraid to talk to him. You're like, I've been blacklisted too many times. I have been blacklisted so many times. But then they keep bringing me back because I do something in the news where they're like, ugh, we have to ask her about it. I know you're un-banded now. I'm on-barbarbarra's not there anymore.

Right. But I loved Barbara Walters. And she couldn't stand me. And that was our dynamic. But the producer didn't like me. He was this big Fox News guy named Bill Getty. And so he and I didn't get along. he would give Elizabeth Hasselbeck the talking points and she's a dumbass and so she would just repeat what he said and I watched it.

Yeah. I watched the makeup room. I watched Bill walk over to Hasselbeck. I watched him say, this is what's happening in the news and her kind of nod. And then I'd be sitting on camera and then all of a sudden she would just be parroting what Bill said. It wasn't her idea. And I'm like, well, the show's called The View. You're supposed to have a point of view that is yours.

And so, yeah, I called that out, and Elizabeth wasn't, you know, happy. But when is she? You know what I mean? Well, I mean, I don't know. It's hard to make Elizabeth Hasselbeck happy. I thought it's very difficult. I haven't heard from her in a while, so I don't know. I think she's trying to bring up the Rosie fight again.

You know, I was there the day after that. Yes. The day after the Hasselbeck Rosie, I was one of the co-host. And Barbara kept saying, please don't mention what happened. Please don't say it on the O. And then every time we came back from commercial, I go, can you guys believe yesterday? What was that about those guys fighting? Right, Barbara? And she would kick me under the table for real. Kick me. Kick me under the table. I mean, those, all those, you have stories for the

ages. Don't talk to me about HR. Don't be coming to me with your, I need to talk to HR. Barbara Walters used to kick me. Well, you know, like you said, Kathy Griffin was right about a lot of things, I think. I got a few kicks. I don't mind. Well, you have so much exciting stuff happening. We talked about the new special that people can watch on YouTube. Free and it's free. That's the smartest thing I did. People love that I'm not trying to get your credit card or your data. It's not even 10 bucks.

I was going to do it for like 10 bucks. Then I thought, oh, I'll do it for two bucks. That's funnier. And then I just thought, oh, fuck it. Let's do it for free. Well, and I think it's such a good advertisement for your tour too. That's what I'm saying. You just click it.

Let me go. This is your vibe. And so the tour is called New Face, New Tour. I've had a third facelift. And then I also have my once a week. YouTube show called Talk Your Head Off, and I just pop off in the camera and my co-host is a wig because people on Hollywood canceled too much. I can't believe I'm here. If I was an A-list or I would have canceled. Look, you know, I don't ever tell anybody who's coming in advance

because I'm like, then it's not going to happen. Right. Right. I never, I don't trust, I had a talk show for two seasons on Bravo called Kathy and I loved doing it. But I'm telling you, When people canceled, I would die a fucking petite more, a little death every time. So celebrities are vicious that way. One of my favorite, you know, all your stand-up specials have different titles. And some of them are so funny. But one of my favorites was always Kathy Griffin is not Nicole Kidman. I tried to get Nicole Kidman to do the voiceover.

I said, see if you can just get her to say, ladies and gentlemen, Kathy Griffin is not Nicole Kidman. And that's all I want her to say, but she wouldn't do it. That email was not replied to. It was once again, it was what they call a hard pass. But it would have been cool if she had done it. It would have been cool. It would have been cool. But she's going through so much right now.

What do you think happened with that Keith Urban cheated? I don't know. They seem to have a new girlfriend already. I already has a new girlfriend already. I don't know. She's looking good, though. She's a gorgeous, talented Amazonian woman who wouldn't do my voiceover. That's what she is.

Maybe 2026 is the year that you get Nicole. Yeah. Well, you also, you're receiving an award, I think, from the Out 100. Out 100. Tell me about that. I think I'm one of the 100 hags of all time. I'm not sure. I think it's the haggery has paid off.

But it's very exciting. It's very prestigious. And I'm laughing because I'm like finally on a list. I'm always, when they have those hundred lists, I'm always 101. So this time I made it, and I don't know what number I am. I hope I'm not like, not. But even if I am, I'm on the list. It's an honor to be in the 90s even.

Yes. So that's a big deal. And there's a lot of, like, famous people that I can act like are my friends if we're on that list together. And if I run into them and they give me a look of horror, which is what I get from celebrities. Well, right. Because if you're a fellow honoree, you know.

Then we're in the same club. Exactly. And watch your mouth. Kathy Griffin is here. And she's going to take whatever you say and put it in the act. And that'll be on the next tour. Yep. Well, you have been through a lot in the last, I don't know, 20, 30, however many years.

And I'm so glad that you're here and we can talk about it. Well, you're a delight. Thank you for having me. Well, thank you so much. And these were good questions. I get a lot of like weird questions. So this was a good one I hate. What's funny?

Oh, fuck me. All right. Anyway, thank you, honey. I had a good time. Thank you so much. Thanks everyone for watching. Don't forget to subscribe. And until next time, be cool.

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