Mention It All - Lala Is Giving Relationship Advice… (Vanderpump Rules, Below Deck Med Reunion)

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

Bari and Dylan are back with the latest on Lala and Randall’s rumored breakup, and then they recap Vanderpump Rules, where Lala is giving some poorly-timed relationship advice to Scheana. They also weigh in on Katie vs. Sandoval, and whether old rage texts are fair game. After that, they discuss the Below Deck Med finale and reunion, and get into their thoughts on some of the season’s biggest drama. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betcha's podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. Who don't check me, boo? And Barry Rosenfeld.

I need to start drinking alcohol. Now go to sleep, we. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. I'm Barry Rosenfeld. We have the Bravo news free. I was like, are we going to get a name?

It's Barry. It's me. So things seem to be not getting better between Lala and Randall, I have to say. Can I just say that every time we talk about something or we record, then the news breaks, and we were ahead of the fucking game yesterday. We were, we were, obviously we were like going through some of the evidence, all of the, all of the facts. And then after that, like, page six reported that Lala dumped Randall,

neither of them have commented on it yet, but there's like sources saying that they're not together. I'm really curious, Lala has a book signing tomorrow in L.A. And she's been like actively posting about it in the last 24 hours. And so like she's going to do this book signing and it's going to be awkward. Like people are like are they just like not going to let people speak to her because I have to imagine it's going to be a weird vibe. I feel like Lala's the type of person who is, of course, now whatever is going on in her life, like her book, well, besides from Ocean, but her book is her priority right now. So she's like, fuck that.

I'll deal with it later. Like, this is what I want to do for my fans. And you know people, if they're respectful or not going to like ask because she's not going to like tell a random stranger. Oh, yes, you know what? I've been meaning to tell you about my breakup. So I think she's going to like acknowledge it with a smile. That's the problem. You're saying if people are respectful.

and I think most people would be respectful. But if she's advertising, hey, I'm going to be sitting at a table for two hours at a Barnes & Noble in the Grove, there's nothing to stop somebody who's not feeling respectful and who wants their 15 minutes of, you know, viral TikTok or whatever of like, you know, you buy a copy of the book and then you get your 30 seconds with Lala.

I will say it's funny to me that she's doing a book signing like six months after the book came out. I guess it makes sense because she's like talking about it on the show. but it's like, I mean, the book's been out. Yeah, it's usually to promote the book. Right. But, you know, everyone's on their own timeline. It's fine.

I did see a few people saying, like, when you were posting about their potential breakup, like some people were saying they thought it was like a publicity stunt for Vanderpump rules. They're like, the new seasons getting bad ratings or like they need drama. And it's like, okay, but that season is already filmed. Like, them breaking up now, like, they're not filming. right now, they wouldn't, assuming they stick to their normal schedule, they wouldn't start

filming for like seven months. So it's like them breaking up now doesn't really do anything in regards to the show. I will say there were a couple moments on tonight's episode. Yes. Lala's talking about she has a relationship and I'm a little bit like. No, no, no. In that moment, we're obviously going to get to it. But like she said something about her own relationship and I was like, oh my God, that's kind of like very bizarre timing. When she was talking to Sheena, we can just get into it. Because this was like a through line of the episode. We just can't stop.

Well, she was talking to Katie and she's like, well, you know, the dynamic changes once there's a baby. So like, I wouldn't want Sheena to be like, oh, well, he would never do that to me. And then he would. And then later when she's talking to Sheena, she's like, you know, like your man had kids before and then he left and like, you know, my man, like, I don't think he would do that to me. And it's like, her words, I wrote this down because I was like, wait, she goes, she said I wouldn't put it past him. And I was like, that is not okay to say about your, oh, fiancee, how's

whatever, but like, father of your child. This is not someone that you're like playing around within high school or college. Like, this is someone who you are literally getting married to, you wouldn't put it past him. Like, what? That's, that's not normal. It's always crazy to me, people who are in this world of like, I, like, the word that comes to mind is Hollywood, but it's not just that. It's like, this whole world of like, oh, yeah, like, you know, sometimes men cheat. You never know what's going to happen. And it's like, you've been engaged to this guy for three years. You live with him. You of a baby together.

Like, if I were at that point in a relationship, I would want to feel 100% confident that it was like locked down. And I'm just, okay. So you know I'm watching Real House Lies in Miami. I just got to season two. And like, so in season one, Marisol gets married to this guy, Philippe. And she's like literally like, wow, they're going to marry. She's like, yeah, you know, like for right now it's good.

Like, we'll see, you know, it's my second marriage. which like, you know, maybe there will be a third one sometime. Like, she's literally talking like that. And then season two starts and they're already separated. And it's like, I just can't imagine like floating through like serious relationships like that. But I don't know. Okay.

Yeah, no. I mean, it's it's not for. Yes, whatever. So Lala and Randall, obviously when their relationship started, everyone was questioning it like, what the fuck. But money is obviously. big thing in people's eyes. Like it's your set, you feel.

So when I see cheating rumors in my head, I'm like, Randall, like, these people only want you for your money. Like, not in a mean way, but like, come on. Randall's money situation has always been like a little confusing just because like, yet he is like a successful producer but also if you look at like some of his movies it's like I agree but he's a producer in Hollywood like straight to streaming got bad reviews like you know for every the Irishman there's like midnight in the switchgrass with Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly that they wouldn't even promote because they said it was so bad so like I don't know I mean like

whatever we'll see I'll see how it unfolds but let's let's get a back to the episode at hand. So we're on the aftermath of Rachella, which, of course, lovely, love their engagement. James Sandoval tells Schwartz that he and James spent $25,000 on this event, and they're splitting the money, which obviously is incredibly generous of Tom Sandoval, but also I think incredibly stupid. And honestly, okay, I think it is especially stupid given the financial situation there in trying to get this business venture going with the new bar. But I think it's stupid anyway. It's like it's great to help your friend plan the engagement, but like it's not your engagement. I'm not spending $12,000.

I mean, like, I literally couldn't right now. But like, I'm not like putting myself in a poor. position, literally, I guess, to like, so that you can have like an over-the-top engagement. Like, that's not, I'll help you with the logistics, but like, I'm not paying for that. Sandoval thinks he like actually is George Clooney. Remember George Clooney, like, years gave each of his friends like $1 million. Like, Sandville's not at that position yet where he like thinks he is. And of course, that is extremely generous.

And it's something he wants to do. Like he loves helping people. but on the flip side, yes, he is in the middle of opening a bar that they already can't afford. Like, sorry, if you're taking out a home equity loan, it's like, then where is, where is that money coming from? He's like, but we're taking out a home equity loan. He didn't explain if he, like, cleared it with Ariana. I don't know what their, like, agreement is in terms of how they share money. But, like, that's a lot of money.

Yeah. And also James loves him so much. He's like, I know Sandoval has shorts, but like, Sandville's my best friend. And I was like, oh, James. That's cute. I want to know what your thoughts are on the Tiffany ring versus the Tiffany diamond in a ring that James got somewhere else. So I think the actual situation is that James bought like a loose diamond from Tiffany and then, like, had the ring made.

at a random jewelry store. So like is, does he need to be like honest with Raquel about that or is it not a big deal? It's not a big deal at all. It doesn't matter. It's the ring is gorgeous. It's not that's not the big deal. The big deal is like, stop lying. Just tell her most people, everyone I know actually, not most people knows where their ring comes from.

So like if you're going in again, if you're going into this relationship, you're starting the engagement on a lie. Like you just, just be honest. There's no reason to not. I do agree with the fact that after like the first day, she probably shouldn't wear that ring to work. Not because it's flashy, but because like to work at a restaurant, like you wash your hands.

It gets lost. You bang it. Like you just shouldn't wear it to work in general. But when I was working retail, I wore an Apple watch every day. And one day, I mean, obviously an Apple watch is not a diamond ring. But, you know, a thing that you wear. that is not inexpensive.

I smashed it on a fucking door handle. The screen was like shattered. Like I can't I can't use it anymore. And so it's like even with that, I'm like, oh, like I guess I should. Whatever. It is funny to see guys watch the ring because they spend so much time. So he was getting himself worked up like at dinner in the car. He was like, no, no, you can't wear that.

And I was like, I get, Raquel's like, why? It's so beautiful. That was a little much. It is funny. Like, I feel like most people, like you were saying, most people know where their ring comes from. And in the majority of cases, it's not from, like, Tiffany or Cartier or some brand like that.

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Is Richella level? I don't, I mean, I think Ariana over the years has done a great job of being open about what she wants and what she doesn't want and not giving in to like the traditional thing just because people tell her that it's what she should want. In this situation, I'm like, you can't be giving Tom mixed signals about this because he has, I feel like Tom, I don't think Ariana has done anything wrong in the past, but I think Tom has made sacrifices in terms of what his fantasy scenario would be, you know, probably not having kids, not getting married. Like those are things that Tom Sandoval envisioned for himself. So it's like, Ariana, if you're serious about not wanting to get married, then don't be going on TV and giving Tom like a mixed signal. Also, Ariana, do you know Tom Sandoval? he would it wouldn't be anything other than over the top he's not going to propose to her like quietly on the beach to me it's a little shallow i mean i love ariana but it's a little shallow only because tom is in love madly in love with her so he'd want to marry her regardless but you only want to be engaged like i don't i don't think she was really like i know but i've never

we've never heard her talk about an inkling of wanting to be engaged so for her to say that I don't know. It was just very weird to me. Okay. So I did, in this episode, we see Katie and Tom Schwartz talking more about their fertility journey and trying to get pregnant. And, you know, Katie says that they basically were trying for like a solid five months in like summer of 2020 when all the other women were getting pregnant. Yeah. And so now they kind of have taken a break from that, but they're like going to see this fertility specialist to sort of kick things off again and try and get, you know, more information so they can hopefully try successfully. And I don't understand why Tom Sandoval is involved in this at all. This was weird to me. I didn't enjoy watching Tom bring like Loub over to Schwartz's house.

Well, again, does nothing that is not over the top. But he also quick note about that, the fact that Lisa, Vanderpump was like, well, why would you go to fertility doctor if you haven't even tried yet? Katie's like, we, we did. Like, why? I made a note about that. It was so weird to me why Lisa was, like, assuming that Katie had, like, never thought about getting pregnant before. It's like, shit. And Katie's like, well, I mean, we have tried.

Yeah. Like, actually, yes, but I'm not like an idiot. Yeah. So this scene with Tom and Tom just brought his old school to me, like, like, you know, the two of them with their little skits. Like it was cute and funny. Yeah, I mean, it was very, like, staged. Yes.

But at the same time, like, very thought out. And I love when he was like, the Gwyneth Paltrow candle. That's a rental, though. You've got to give that back. And, like, I just didn't like the fact that he waited outside the door. Like, he could have been watching TV or anywhere. No, he's like looking up the stairs. Like, come on.

But he's like, he's a good friend in that sense. I don't know. I think he wants for other people what he can't have, to be honest. like what you just said earlier. Like they're not playing on having children. Like they're not getting engaged. So we see this, Tom, like playing these roles of what he wants.

Yeah. And meanwhile, Katie is with Lala. And I do think I want, I think Lala sharing the information about Brock's kids with Katie is like a little bit messy. You know, like I think Lala's concerns are totally valid.

We talked about this last week. It does seem like some red flags with Brock. And so I think like her talking to Sheena about it this episode, I thought was like a good friend move. But her talking to Katie about it, I'm a little bit like, it's it's not your business. You don't have all the details yet. Like, let's hold off. And it's, it's funny because I actually. like Katie and Lala's friendship this season.

I agree. Yeah. So in that sense, it's like, you know, you talk to your friends about like BS too, about other people. But it's always different when there's cameras involved because it's someone's personal journey. And also I couldn't tell if Lala was kind of, I think she was very, very, very like we saw last week, shocked by this information. So I almost feel like she was getting someone else's opinion on this because she's like, am I overreacting? Is this weird? I think, yeah, a little bit. And I guess being outside of the situation and watching, it's like, obviously, like, it's on the show now.

We can talk to whoever about it. It's like public information. But, like, I do get that if you were Lala in that situation and you didn't, and like no one else in the group knew that you would kind of be like, am I like crazy for thinking that this is like very strange and whatever? So, yeah, I mean, you're right in that sense. And then I actually liked the scene with Sheena and Lala this episode because I like seeing that they're, they seem to be like actually productively worked through their issues and like getting along again. And it doesn't feel weird that they're like meeting up to shop for baby clothes. But Sheena is given the chance to sort of explain more of why Robbins. has not seen his kids in four years.

And I wouldn't say that she really convinced me that it was a great situation anymore than last week. Right. And that's what I said last week when we first, because I was like, eh, maybe he was leaving for a better, you know, life. But I was like, no. I mean, that's not, no, something's missing. The way they talk about him going from Australia to, California or wherever, which this would have been in like 2017 or 2016, like around that time.

Australia is not a third world country where there's nothing going on and there's no opportunities and you can't make money there. Wait, I'm dying. They literally made it seem like he was Jack and Titanic and he won a ticket to get on the boat and like cam. Right. Like they're making it sound like he's like a pilgrim coming to the new world to like make a better life. And like, I don't know, like, what his specific, like, deal is. Like, it's a little

hard for me to get a handle on that. But, like, they're making it sound like his choice was either, like, prosperity in the U.S. or, like, living in, like, in poverty in Australia. And it's like, I don't think that that doesn't actually, like, quite add up to me. So I would like a little bit more information on why it was so important for him to leave Australia? Because to me, that's the thing, like, when she's saying, oh, and like the mother of the kids didn't support that and she didn't want him to leave. It's like, yeah, like, I wouldn't want the father of my kids to move 8,000 miles away either. Like, that seems actually kind of normal to me. Yeah, and she was like, he drinks out of coffee mug with their faces. He's like, they're his background.

And the part I questioned was when she was like, if he wanted to go, what is holding him about? Like, why can't he go back? Right. I understand. Okay. The thing is like traveling between Australia and the United States is extremely expensive, time consuming hassle with kids. So like, Sheena's saying that the mom cut off contact. And like, yes, obviously they could be FaceTiming, whatever.

But it's like, I don't think it's on the mom to be. like flying those kids to California to see their dad. So it's like, why doesn't Brock book a plane ticket to Australia and like go see the kids? Like even if the line of communication isn't great, it's like, go see your fucking kids. I don't know. Like, there's clearly going to be some more information next week, like from Brock's maybe like a little bit more backstory on what actually happened. But right now, I still don't feel good about it.

Yeah. I mean, like I said, it is weird because. that is a situation where it's like we literally don't know. And it's not like we can be like, go be a good dad. Go see your kids. Like we have no fucking idea what the situation is. And so that's a little hard. But I did like the advice Lala was giving from the information she has.

And she was like, as my friend, I just don't want, if he's done it before, what's to say he won't just leave Summer Moon and be like, bye? Yeah. It feels, like her interaction with Sheena feels more, it feels genuinely supportive and not just like she's trying to be like messy or like drag her. And so I appreciate that because I think, you know, they've had issues in the recent past. So it could feel a little bit like Lala's trying to like ruin Sheena's happiness. And it does, it feels like she actually is looking out for her, which I like. I did feel bad, though, because it looked like throughout the entire conversation, Shina was holding back tears.

And I was like, let it out. Well, but that's the thing. It's like, we've seen Shina go down the road where she is like so committed to acting like everything is perfect. And like, I don't think her relationship with Brock, at least right now, is in that like dark of a place. Like things do seem like they are pretty good currently. but like it's that's what worries me is that like sheena wouldn't acknowledge if things did get to a bad place and like I think she needs to be I think la is right she needs to be careful and she needs to be really like honest with herself if things were to not be going well because like she has a daughter that she needs

to be you know acting in her best interests also like when Lala is saying summer moon. I'm like, are we doing that? Like, can we just call her summer? Yeah, like, what is her? Is her name summer moon or is it summer and her middle name is moon? Well, it's summer moon, honey. Summer moon honey Davies.

Right. So maybe summer moon is the first name. Oh, God. There's no hyphen, okay? So it's confusing. But maybe it's like a southern name. like Summer Moon. Like Mary Kay.

Kimberly Sue. Yeah. Kimberly Sue. Oh, my God. Okay. So let's talk about Raquel and James going to lunch with. Raquel's my fiance. They're with various members of both of their families. It's a little unclear who all was invited to this lunch.

But James's mom is there. Raquel's sister is there. And Raquel's sister is sort of like the main player in this lunch because she clearly has some reservations about James. You know, Raquel says that they've known James for like four years, that they've seen him in his like messy drunk James era. And then now they're kind of still skeptical about him really being better.

And this whole thing with Max is not helping because Raquel's sister is like, see, you can get into trouble even when you don't drink. And she's not wrong. She's not wrong. And she, they were like, Who in your family, Raquel, dislikes James the most and won't care what you say or ask.

So she made a good point, though, because Raquel is, I wouldn't consider Raquel a pushover because she has shown us that like she really does stand up for herself, whatever, but we don't know like what she would do for James necessarily. So her sister made a good point when she was like, well, why did you bring the gift? And also I just don't want to see you going along always and fixing James's problem. And even Raquel right there was like, I'm not fixing his problems. She just brought him the gift because she was working a shift in James. I know.

I think that's kind of the weird dynamic is that like obviously there is, you know, the thing of like they're in a relationship. Their actions affect each other. You know, people see them as a package deal. But also, like, Raquel actively works at Sir still. Like, she works there even when they're not filming. Like she more than anyone else, I guess Charlie also. but like she works it sir and so like there is that thing of like if james is on bad terms with the vanderpump family then it doesn't reflect well on rquel and i think that's valid i mean i think

maybe that her sister what's her name i can't kate i don't i can't remember but it's like maybe she's being like a little bit you know overly like harsh on james but at the same time it's like Like, can you stop like, well, like, why are you calling him like a fat twat or whatever? Like get it together. That's not like, that's not like acceptable behavior. Typical James, though. He was like, well, I am blocked on everything. Like, so I can't even if I want it.

And I was like, please. Like, yes, you can. Yeah. I feel like. It was thoughtful, though. Yeah. I mean, the gift was nicely. Everybody loves virtual reality.

I always feel like it's like a little bit like you're not trying that hard and you're like well like I don't even know how to get in contact with him it's like ask the producers to set it up I don't know like yeah but I feel like James is it was nice to see James mom and his brothers by the way we haven't seen them in so long but yeah they're both sober now and like she I don't know it was very weird

She was like, yeah, yeah. And she was, like, loving everything James is doing and Raquel. And, like, she was not helping, like, the situation. She was like, yeah, that was really. I do, I do enjoy. I like James and Raquel's dynamic when they're good. But, like, James definitely has that quality about him where, like, he kind of gets an idea in his head.

And it's like, just chill out. Like, when he was talking about the ring in the car, it's like it feels like you're like hounding her about this thing and like she's not doing any like she's not yeah she didn't like lose the ring she's just wearing it like chill i so yeah i hope james can kind of like rain it in a little bit i just can't wait for this wedding because it's going to be an episode of some sort and i just want it to i feel like they'll probably get married like on next season like they'll probably get married like next june or something I hope you're right

We'll see, we'll see, we'll see Okay, so the last Big moment of the episode is at Tom Tom, which is reopened now Lisa's there, the Tom's are there, Katie and Ariana are there And this is when, you know, Katie and Lisa were having their conversation, their like weird conversation

about trying to have a baby She asked Ariana to go tell Tom to change the music a little, aka can you leave? So me and Katie can. Yeah, it's like, so the producers have told me that Katie and I need to have a one-on-one. So can you do this like random fake task? Yeah, like change it to what? Like, is it like too loud? Like, are there like bad words in the lyrics? I got it's like noted. I'll leave. But so then the Tom's are like ushered over to the table and Katie and Sandoval just get into it again because Lisa asks about

this new bar, they're having trouble staffing, like, oh, Katie's going to be doing something, right? And, like, it just, Tom Sandoval, I don't get why he is, like, so triggered by the idea of Katie being involved. Because he likes to be in charge and doesn't like anyone challenging him. And Tom Schwartz doesn't, and Katie does. But, like, he is in charge. Like, Katie's not saying, I'm going to come in and be in charge.

She's saying, like, I want to be involved. And it's like, I like Tom Sandoval, like, as a person, but it's frustrating to me that he is, like, so reactive to, like, the idea of Katie being around. And it's like, then he brings up these texts that are from, like, two years ago, five years ago. He's, like, talking about when, like, he would be out with Shina and Shina would be getting rage texts from Katie. And even Ariana is like, wasn't that like six years ago? And he's like, yeah, but like I just, ugh. And it's like, why are you talking about this right now? They were like, we haven't gotten rage texts in so long.

Like that's a thing of the past. I was like, guys, she's sitting right here. Like she's really grown that they were making rage texts like a thing of the past. But he was, I think like I've said this, I sound like a broken record. He just doesn't like Katie. And like, I think he's thinking of anything he could. And now they're kind of pulling him out on it because he lives dumb. Right.

That it's like if you have an issue with Katie in the present tense, work through it. But like we're not bringing up texts that Katie sent to Sheena in 2014. Like that's not what we're doing right now. It doesn't help anyone. It doesn't make sense. And then it set him set Katie off earlier when Schwartz told Sanchez. He was impressed with what he saw with the, with the engagement planning that he's letting him name the bar.

And I was like, what? So then he told Katie that. That doesn't have any, that doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's like, okay, so maybe then if you were having like an opening party, you would let Sandoval like take the lead on planning it, which I assume he would anyway. But it's like, why are. are you like gifting him with the ability to name the bar because he planned a good party? Like it makes it's so stupid.

And like apparently they've officially, there was like some interview. Apparently they've officially decided that it is going to be Schwartz and Sandys, which like, Oh yeah. When they were watching what happens live a few weeks ago, Tom like said he was like, yeah, towards Sanis. And I think at that point at that episode still, Andy did they didn't know if he was kidding or not. He like, no one was seeking him seriously unless like imprint. Whatever.

I don't think, I don't see why it would be. like less successful than Tom Tom. People that want to see them are going to go to their bar. So like whatever. I still think it's a stupid name, but it's not my bar. Is Nicolane designing it?

I don't know if Tom and Tom can afford Nicolaine on their own. Oh, yes. Lisa's not involved. Maybe Lisa will get them a friends and family discount for Nicolane. Oh, that would be sweet. All new drinks are now at McDonald's.

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Okay, let's talk about Below Deck Med. We finished off the season with a finale. reunion back to back. These below deck reunions, the virtual ones, where they're all like in their various locations around the world. They stress me out.

Malia was in her shower. Malia's sitting in the shower, like literally with charter guests on the boat. Lloyd's Wi-Fi looks like it's about to crap out any second and then it actually does before the end of the reunion. Matt is wearing a tie-dye shirt

looking like he just rolled out of bed. Like, I appreciate that they have the technology to make a reunion happen, but it's like, this is, I would love like, I would love like a little bit of a budget. Correct. I would have, the issue, I know, it's crazy because they are literally all over the world and on both. So they can't just like send production like to there. It's not like with the, it's not like with the virtual reunions for like Vanderpompe or Beverly Hills where they like send a whole. like TV set up to their house. I certainly had time to look this up,

but I just felt like asking, who was it last, last reunion who got so drunk, like they were so drunk on the reunion. I just couldn't remember for the life of me, but Courtney. Ah, it might have been. It might have been, I think,

but Courtney was getting so, she was like sliding down in her chair. She was like, salivating her words. She was falling. falling asleep. Like Andy at one point was like, I want whatever you're having.

And she was like, I'm drinking water. And he was like, yeah, now. Right. Like, Courtney, Courtney was feeling herself or feeling something.

I don't know. I was honestly, like I found the cast dynamic on this reunion very enjoyable. Like the first few minutes when they were kind of like laughing with each other and stuff. I'm like, this is like a fun group. Like,

well, because I think they're actually friends. Like they're, they're all friends. Yeah, no, literally all of them on this season, besides Lexi and Delaney, like, are actively friends with each other. And, like, I'm not sure why some of them are friends with Chef Matthew. Okay, I was going to say.

Drop him a little bit. Like, I actually was surprised on the episode when he, because Courtney had said, I think, before that some of them were going to a house and split. And I'm like, okay, so it's going to be like, it's going to be like most of them, but not Matthew. And then I'm like, oh, everybody's going. To be honest, I think that they just. from what I say,

I think he's the type of person they just like let tag along. He's annoying as fuck. And like I wouldn't want him hanging out with me, especially if he's drunk. And so I think that's what happened. And he would be the last person I would want to know the secret

of whatever happened in Split because he's going to tell anyone. The finale was like not that exciting. No. But I want to know. So Matt, after this like disastrous, crisp egg breakfast situation.

For the rest of the day, he's very in his head. Even though the food he makes comes out great, there's no more complaints. But he keeps asking Katie, who is, like, stressed beyond belief with her two stew situation, he keeps, like, asking her for, like, advice on the menu. And she's very, like, I don't have time for this. I can't think about this right now. Like, like, figure it out. And like, I want to know, like, what did you think?

Did you think that she was being like rude or did you think that Matt was like needed to just get his shit together and decide? I definitely thought a little bit of both. Like I said, I think he is a nothing. But I think so what we've seen in past seasons always, which I haven't seen this season is the cheap stew and chef discuss the menu beforehand. Right. So I don't know if they did. do that, but it seems in this conversation that they didn't. And so in that case, he kind of is asking like, hey, what should I do?

What should I do? His issue is he's asking at the most horrific time. He's asking like during the meal. Katie's like, Katie's like carrying things like about to go do the laundry, like making drinks. And he's like, uh, serve and turn for just the just the salmon. And she's like, I don't fucking know. Like, they were like leaving for the beach picnic. He's like, should I make burgers too?

and she, and Malina's like, you, we're leaving. We need to go. The beach picnic situation, to me, that was, like, ridiculous. It's like, you have 10 minutes. You're making what you're making. The dinner, I thought Katie could have been, like, a little more helpful. Because they feel like that's the situation where you're like, okay, like, you have been around the guests all day.

Like, you can sense the mood. Like, do you think we should do, like, more courses or less, you know, that kind of thing? But, like, oh, my God, the beach picnic. It's like, you have three minutes. not making burgers like get they they were also like running back and forth these beach picnics give me such like ajada i can't oh my god i know but have fun and she like sprints away to be honest this setup looked like the easiest they've ever done like maybe they just didn't show it i don't know they just like kind of just set it up and then they're like running breaking it

down they did that with two stews like that was wild i did appreciate how much katy acknowledged the fact that she was wrong and should have kept another stew. I loved that. I think that was kind of the saving grace for her these last two charters and that the reunion was that like she fully acknowledged that like I made

this decision. Looking back, it wasn't the right decision, but it is what it is and I'm not going to let it affect the quality of service. And I think like even at the reunion Sandy totally recognized that and

she was like, look, like, you maybe didn't make the right decision, but you stepped up and made it work. And I think, like, if it was a situation where she made that decision and then the last two charters were just like a disaster, Sandy would have had a lot more to say. And it would, we wouldn't be like, as, you know, we would be seeing Katie kind of in a different light because it would be like, oh, damn, like, she really fucked up. But in this case, she was like the first one to admit. I like, I didn't really know in the reunion when Delaney was there, obviously it's a little bit awkward just because like, you know, when Katie is saying like it was an issue with what we needed and you not being the right fit, not like with you being bad. And it's like, it's just awkward because she's sitting right there and like it's never going to feel good to be like talked about like that. But like. Wait, but she had a great comeback. She's living in Hawaii and working on a day. and they're like, okay. Happy for her.

She's doing great. But it's like, I didn't know, like, because Katie was kind of like, well, I don't regret, I don't regret letting Delaney go because she wasn't what we needed. And it's like, okay, well, she was the only choice.

So like, if you made the wrong decision, then what would have been the right decision? And she still would have been helping. Like, she still would have been doing the laundry. Like, that's something Courtney,

like, would have been doing something else if Delaney was there. Like, so I just didn't like, exactly. I think that was, that was kind of the thing for me.

It's like, obviously Delaney wasn't going to be like leading your dinner service, but like she wasn't completely unhelpful in the time that she was there. Right. I was so, I was so mad that Lexi didn't show up. I wasn't surprised, but like, oh. What help would she have like done to this reunion? She didn't speak to them when she was on the boat.

It would have been so much more chaotic. Yeah. And like, Matt, they wouldn't have gotten a word in edge. wise. No way. Right. I mean, there would have been so much more like drama. But like in some sense, I feel like it was like for the best that she wasn't there. But then also I'm just like, no, like I want everybody to show up to the reunion and like talk their shit. And she would have been like, she would have been like, yeah, I'm joining from my $8,000 a condo in Miami and a high rise. Wait, hold on. We have to. We'll talk. I want to talk about Lexi after. But the fact, because of everything

they said about her. But the fact. that I was really happy that Lloyd got the crossing job because he very much deserves it. And we're happy that usually they bring on like, you know, each person is like, they call them in one by one and they like each get the, I don't know. Maybe this one they just needed like one. And it was Lloyd. But they, I feel like it's like usually like the whole cast, whatever. But this was very bizarre when they were all going out for dinner.

And then like this they like let. They like let the substitute chef, substitute, the backup chef, substitute the backup chef come on board for a drink, but like not even in the lip. I prefer to it as a living room, but the scot, like, whatever. The salon. The salon. The living room. But they are in like their quarters. Like it's very bizarre and not welcoming at all.

Yeah, I didn't understand. I was like, if you're having drinks, like do drinks. like on the nice part of the boat. Also like I mean, I guess it was nice that they, because he was literally sitting in quarantine the whole time, the whole season. So like I understood the thinking behind it that it's like it's, we're going to at least like meet you in person.

Thank you for your service that you, you know, it was important to have a backup. But like it was. Matt's attitude. Yeah, that was so annoying. It's like, the season is over.

This guy isn't like threatening your job. He himself had nothing to do with you, like as a person. And for him to not even acknowledge him and like get up and leave, he's such a fucking baby. I'm sorry. That guy pisses me off. All of Matt's issues throughout the season trace back to Matt himself. Like there was never a situation where like somebody else was making his life difficult or like. I mean like obviously the Lexi situation like she was antagon.

antagonizing him, whatever. But like, even in that situation, he was being just as you know, combative toward her. So like, yeah, I don't know. I also thought like the way he was like coming for Captain Sandy. It's like, you

had a rough, like, you objectively had kind of a rough season. It's not crazy that Sandy doesn't think you're like the most reliable person in the world. Even though I don't think Captain Sandy is like the most amazing person either. It's like, she didn't do anything to you. she gave you chances.

And also the fact that he, he just like secured his position of never coming, working with on a shower with her again because he was like, and Captain Sandy's the worst captain of ever worked for my entire life of 15 years. And ever, Sandy was like, okay. Like first of all,

she doesn't have time with people like you. And also she, that is just him right in a nutshell because they weren't fighting. She literally was asking. the question about watching something she didn't see firsthand so she saw it on the show and she's reacting to it. So for you to say she's the worst captain, she gave you three chances. In one way was she's like, he's like, I work year round and you're basing this all on like two bad nights that I had. And it's like, no. Okay. But like even if that's true, it's like,

yeah, you had two bad nights where you like stormed off the boat, gave her an ultimatum. Like you had two bad nights in a season that was four weeks long. Like that's not actually like a great track record still. Like there's only like six, there's only like seven charters in the season. So the fact that you like had like a major fuck up during two of them, it's like, yeah,

that's kind of a poor grade overall. I agree. And it's nice when they all leave the boat when they show like the last day. And like, um, Z asked her to be a reference. And it's like ever, you want to, you know, you don't want to burn any bridges. You want to just like keep it.

Her and Malia have a really great relationship. Like they really respect each other, which is very nice to see by the way. I did like that she and Malia are. Yeah. Kind of put their issues to bed. I almost wish though that Malia was a little bit more firm with her when, because like when they were talking about the issue with David. Like personally, I wanted Malia to be like, I didn't appreciate the fact that. that you yelled at me in the middle of the boat.

Like I think I wish Sandy was like called out a little bit more for that because I think it was really unprofessional, but you know, whatever. Mali, it was like surprise I'm not a lesbian. Captain Cindy's like, huh, that's funny because remember she called her out like on someone's cameo? So weird. Oh. Does the next season of Below Deck start next week?

Um, I believe so. But also Winterhouse starts to. Tomorrow. I know. There's so much happening. There's so much going on. Now I want a Miami premiere date because I'm watching this fucking show, but I don't even know when it's going to be. I've like heard, I feel like I heard like December, but then also I've heard like May 22.

And I'm like, can we just, can we get this under control? Like, when is anything happening? I know. I always think of like where we are right now. So right now it's October 2021. May is a long time from now. Yes. It's filmed. They finished filming. Like, come on. Alexia posted her confessional look that she was in yesterday. She looks great.

I mean, she's fucking gorgeous. She is beyond. Yeah. No, I'm watching right now. Alexia, I'm, oh, I'm watching right now when her son had the accident. It's really sad. It's very, it's awful. But, okay, really quick, I need to know your opinion on Joanna Grupa then. I well so I just started season two and she's not in season one so I don't really have an opinion yet because I've only seen like one episode with her. Oh, okay. She's very beautiful. She's a supermodel, but still. We'll see. I will make sure to give you updates. I've been like posting little like funny moments and stuff on the story. But thank you guys so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed this episode. I guess we'll have new below deck stuff to talk about. about next week. It never ends. Yeah, like, how would be old then with the new, huh? Like, really? I know

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