Mention It All - Leah’s Lawsuit & A “Valley” Spiral

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

It’s Wednesday, and two very different—but equally troubling—items have come across Dylan’s desk. First, he dissects the newly-released teaser for The Valley, which looks like a show made for absolutely no one. Then, he gets into Leah McSweeney’s lawsuit against Bravo and Andy Cohen, and the particulars of her claim that are most shocking. Later, he recaps this week’s Vanderpump Rules, where the strange Tahoe vibes can’t hold a candle to Scheana and Brock’s swimsuit shop sparring match. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I am so excited to sit down on the mic today. It's been a minute. If you've been listening, Kiki was on the podcast on Monday. Carl and Kyle were on the podcast last week. We have, you know, more guests. coming up. It's a good time to be a Bravo fan. There's a lot going on. We've, of course, got Vanderpump rules to talk about today. It's a Wednesday. What else would we be doing?

To be honest, some other stuff, because we've got a lot to get into. First of all, the Bravo schedule this week, I need to speak to someone about what they're doing to Real House House of Miami. We'll talk about their reunion tomorrow. But they are getting, I think, the short end of the stick that they do not deserve. serve because I don't know if you all have looked at the schedule for what's happening on Bravo this week. Tonight, Wednesday night, Wednesday night, February 28th, we're getting part one of the Beverly Hills reunion and part one of the Miami reunion.

Back to back part parts one. Great, perfect. A fun night of television. A stressful night of television, but I'll take it. But then next week, after Beverly Hills, what are we getting? Not Miami Reunion Part two. we're getting bet it all on blonde. The Erica Jane two-part special is airing, I believe, after parts two and three of the Beverly Hills reunion.

So when, you might ask, is Real Housewives of Miami getting parts two and three of their reunion? Not in the time slot that they've had all season, that they've been crushing and that they've been earning. No, they're getting bumped to Thursdays. So we are getting parts one and two of the Real House of Miami reunion on back-to-back nights. Tonight, Wednesday, and tomorrow night, Thursday. I'm stressed. I'm stressed. When am I going to talk about part two?

When am I going to talk about part three? I don't record on Fridays. Not usually. Do I need... What are we going to do? I just think, look, I'm glad these queens, they got 17 episodes plus three, 20. They're getting to 20 episodes this season. Miami's great.

I believe the reunion's going to be great. Julia and Marcus Jordan. are feuding because he said that he's Michael Jordan's son and she was like, you're a fucking Nepo baby. I came out of the Soviet Union. Who the fuck are you? I just think it stresses me out that these ladies are being thrown around the calendar like a rag doll.

They don't deserve it. It reminds me a couple years ago, there was a real househouse of Orange County reunion that they aired like three days in a row on the week between Christmas and New Year's. And I'm like, that has to be a tax strategy situation. They're trying to get all these episodes pumped out before, before Q4 ends. Maybe it was Rehastas of Dallas. I don't remember. I just, these time slots are precious.

Vanderpump rules, Tuesday nights at 8. But you know what's happening Tuesday nights at 9? Starting in a few weeks, we got to talk about the Valley. It's so hard. It's so fucking hard to talk about the Valley. Valley because they just can't believe it's real. I can't believe it's real. I can't believe it's happening on Bravo. I can't believe they're spending their money and their time and their efforts on this. Obviously, last month, we got the teaser of, you know, they're figuring out

how to adult now that they're in their 40s. Yaha, Jacks on his serial killer, Little Tykes bike going around the neighborhood. We got the full preview yesterday. It's three minutes long. First of all, we don't need three minute previews for anything. whatever happened to suspense, whatever happened to anticipation? That's a little rocky horror moment. Why are we putting out a three-minute trailer for a show that looks like there's like 10 minutes worth of content in it? How many episodes is this? It can't be more than like six or seven, right?

If we're out here giving family karma like an eight-episode season and then canceling it, we better not be giving fucking the Valley 14 episodes and a reunion. That, I know. But anyway, this three-minute trailer, we get to meet the whole cast. Obviously, there's Brittany and Jacks. Right away, we see Jacks wearing a number one guy in the group hoodie. Glad to see that things are maturing well over there. Brittany's getting motorboated by some random chick.

You know, just great stuff happening all around. I don't know how well they're doing in their marriage, but that's beside the point for now. Kristen is with this guy, Luke. I mean, I guess they've been together for a while. They're talking about figuring out her ovulation so they can try and have a baby. Good for them. I don't know anything about this man. I don't, you know, I liked watching Kristen on Vanderpump rules.

I don't have much of a pull to find out what's going on in her life now, but I suppose we will. And then we meet. There's four other pairs of people, three couples and then two extra people. I don't know. Jesse and Michelle, Jesse looks kind of like a busted Josh Flagg. Danny and Nia. Janet and Jason, these couples sound like they're like Scooby-Doo characters. And then Zach and Jasmine. And I got really confused watching the preview because in my notes, I literally wrote Zach the gay guy. And then they made it seem like he and Jasmine were together for like a split. at second I was like, oh, and then I watched the rest of the thing being like, so are, are we going to talk? So, so Zach, the gay guy is with Jasmine, but he's not. He's not. I went to the, I went to the website with the cast bios and they're like listed separately. It says Zach is single. So I don't technically know 100% that Zach is gay, but I do know that Jasmine isn't in a relationship with him.

Guys, my life flashed before my eyes. There's something a little jarring about somebody coming on reality TV who presents very not straight, but maybe they don't know it or they, yeah. So I was really scared for a second, but I think we're in the clear. Honestly, a gay person on the Valley, that's better than Vanderpump Rules did for a long time. If only there was anything else about this show that makes me want to watch it. I just, I try not to be too harsh on things. that I haven't seen.

I really do. I don't, as much, you know, if you've been listening to this podcast for a long time, I don't know how compelling of an argument I can make for me not being a hater, but I really try. I do, I do. I try to be fair. I just, for the life of me,

can't figure out what the real goal and audience of this show is. I haven't heard from one single person who, wants to watch this. I don't know what goddamn soul. Who thinks that Jacks and Brittany and Kristen and seven random people? Actually, wait, no, no, no, no. Nine random people.

This is a big ass cast. They kept introducing new people in this trailer. Maybe that's why it's three minutes long because they've got Kristen, Luke, Brittany, Jacks, Jesse, Michelle, Danny, Nia, Janet, Jason, Zach, and Jasmine. Why do you have 12 people on your reality show? Ten of whom are like nine, sorry, numbers, math is hard.

Clearly, this show is breaking my brain already, and all I've seen is a three-minute teaser. Who are all of these people? I'm watching the traitors every week, wondering why the fuck we haven't found something for MJ to do in the last three years? because every time I see her on my screen, I'm like, wow, I kind of miss Shaw's. Shaz had a real good run.

They were on for like nine seasons. I wonder what she and Reza and Golnessa, not Mike, respectfully, maybe Destiny, Nima, what are they up to? I don't know. But instead, we're hanging out in the valley with Jesse, whatever the fuck, and all of Jacks's friends. it's really weighing on me. Let me reel it back in. It's like 10 a.m.

and I'm fully just losing it right now. But this show premieres March 19th. I'm sure I will give it a try. You know, maybe we'll even get a... Maybe we'll get... I can't say it with a straight face. Maybe we'll get Jacks on the podcast. Stranger things have happened.

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and Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. And also, Warner Brothers Discovery, which I need to do a little more digging into when or how she was employed by Warner Brothers Discovery because I don't know. But it's a 109-page complaint obtained by, by people. This is, I'm reading from an article by Lawrence Yee. McSweeney claims the defendants established a, quote, rotted workplace culture where employees were pressured to consume alcohol. She also alleges that the defendants failed to maintain a safe working environment and accommodate her disabilities, including alcohol use disorder and, quote, mental health disorders.

Later in the complaint. Okay. So some of this is, we've, we've heard this in maybe a Vanity Fair article, maybe a variety thing. You know, know, some of this, this has been bubbling. It's not brand new information. This part, this is where it gets all spicy. McSweeney goes on to claim that Andy Cohen, quote, engages in cocaine use with housewives and other Bravo liberties that he employs and has a, quote, proclivity for cocaine usage with his employees. Quote, Cohen tends to provide the housewives with whom he uses cocaine with more favorable treatment and edits. this is this is not something I was expecting to see because this level of specificity and

this level of personal to put this part into the complaint because I believe a lot of what Leah says about production she wrote a post on Instagram it's three slides of text kind of explaining her position in her own words and talking about kind of what got her to this point and she says she talks about the good parts of reality TV and kind of how it can bring people together and show people's experiences. And she says she has love and respect for a lot of the Bravo talent that she got to know and work with. But she says that, quote, the reckless and diabolical way in which people at the top drool over the mishaps and misfortunes of the women, including myself, are disturbing. Later, she says, I've been trying to address this internally for years now,

but have been dismissed, Stonewalled, and gaslit at every turn since. Look, a lot of this stuff that she's saying, I believe. I, a hundred percent, I'm on board with the idea that the people hire up at these production companies and at these shows and these networks are probably licking their lips when they see somebody going through a tough time and they see it as an opportunity for ratings and an opportunity for momentum and storyline. And that they probably have handled certain situations in ways that are not in the best interest of the people on the shows. I don't think that that seems like a real stretch or a real bold claim to make. I don't know about every specific situation that Leah is talking about. I don't know about every specific situation that anybody else has gone through while filming a show. But I think that that is largely believable.

I don't think anybody is really shaking their head and being like, it couldn't be. It couldn't be that a reality TV producer would do something shady. But I was really surprised about the specifics of this Andy stuff because that to me, I don't have an opinion on whether it's true or whether it's not true. I don't know Andy like that. I don't know Leah like that. I'm not in those situations to, or those, you know, whatever, to know that. But for her to go beyond talking about the workplace culture,

in terms of her, you know, being encouraged to drink and her, you know, kind of that type of stuff into this sort of personal behavior that she's alleging from Andy, which has been denied. I think to deadline, they denied this. Andy's rapper, whoever. It feels like a bold move in a way that suggests that Leah kind of, there's something bigger that she is getting up besides just, I wasn't treated very well. And it does kind of feel in line with what Brandy Glanville is trying to do right now. She just sued Andy Cohen, among others, last week and specifically tied it back to comments that

he had made to her, around her, of a, you know, sexual or like flirtatious nature with you know, women that are, I guess, sort of employed by him. I mean, the housewives are not really directly employed by Andy, but I understand that in many ways, he functions like a boss. And now with Leah bringing up this drug usage stuff, it does feel like there is,

I don't know if it's a coordinated effort, but it does feel like there is a through line of trying to kind of tie Andy to this behavior in a way that goes beyond just sort of like the production practices that are happening at Bravo. And that is something that is interesting to me because I think for for a long time, Andy has kind of been this like godlike sort of, you know, daddy Andy figure sort of floating above the fray. I mean, Andy is not somebody who is directly involved in the production of most of these shows.

He has an executive producer credit on all the Housewives franchises. He, of course, is involved in some way. He's seeing early cuts of episodes. He's hearing about things that are happening. But he is not boots on the ground. You know, when Leah's filming Real Housewives of New York, and they're in the Hamptons, and she's having some kind of meltdown, and he's not the one that's handling that. So I think it's notable.

I don't know if it's going to lead to. anything or if it's going to, you know, trigger some kind of changes. But I do think it is notable that these last two kind of lawsuits that have happened in the last couple of weeks have both been deliberately putting at least some of the spotlight directly on Andy and not just in the way of like, oh, well, he's an EP on the show. So he should, he should be knowing better too. It's a weird time. I did notice as of this morning when I'm recording, The only two Bravo Lebrides who have commented on Leah's Instagram post are Brandy Glanville, a nice supportive comment. And also Bronwyn, Windham Burke.

And I haven't heard Bronwyn really speak up in this arena too much. I mean, I don't think she necessarily had the best experience on Real Housewives of Orange County. But I haven't seen her necessarily be kind of like joining this like real. Racketing Fray, but I could see her kind of like, you know, hopping on at some point because I feel like that's kind of her vibe. I don't mean that to be rude necessarily. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I'm very curious to see kind of what comes of all of this. I don't, Bethany has been kind of quiet lately.

I don't know that this really has anything directly to do with her. I don't think that Leah and Bethany necessarily love each other that much. So I don't think that Bethany is like, you know, ghost writing Leah's Instagram post or anything. But it does feel kind of still tied back to this whole thing that Bethany claimed to care a lot about. I don't. Lately, I've just seen her talking about like T.J. Max on TikTok. But we'll be paying attention to this. I mean, I don't know if people are going to get settlements, if they're going to go to court.

Leah said that she looks forward to people being questioned under oath about things that happened to her on the show. so I don't know if that's going to look like some sealed depositions or some hearings or a trial. I mean, I have kind of a hard time envisioning these lawsuits going to trial. I feel like the production companies and NBCUniversal would really like to avoid having Andy Cohen on trial versus housewives. But you never know. You just never know. Good sleep is everything. That's why Ali's science back support is made.

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Well, we're in Tahoe, most of us. But I'm not quite sure I'm having a tough time these last couple episodes sort of sinking my teeth into this season. And when I say that, I don't feel like this season is bad. necessarily. Not quite. I think it's more that I feel like the last few episodes, there have been sort of a series of events and conversations that feel like they are sort of orchestrated to move the plot forward in a way that is, I guess, necessary, but doesn't quite feel, I'm trying to find the right word because I was going to say authentic, but it's not even really that because I don't necessarily care how authentic my reality television is. I think it's more that it doesn't feel

quite earned. And I think that this week, the vibe around Tom Sandoval felt like it defrosted pretty quickly on this trip to Tahoe. And I think that that is something that is at the same time, both important for the successful production of an ensemble show to have most of the people kind of fine with most of the other people. That if they had gone to Tahoe and every five minutes, it's just like, Tom, fuck off. Go over there, stand in the corner. Look at the wall. that's not, I mean, that's not, that wouldn't be good.

But I do, but then it feels like when they're all just like hanging out on the patio or sitting at dinner together, it does feel a little bit uncanny valley where it's like, these people wouldn't be at dinner together. And I don't want to be that reality viewer who's like, it feels fake. because it's like, who cares? Like, that's lazy. But I just seeing like Lala at dinner with Schwartz and Sandoval, it's like, why do you want to be here? Lala especially. I'm like, I don't know. We don't get a ton of Lala this week, which is too bad.

I don't know. I like Lala. But Ariana and, Ariana and Katie, notably not on the Tahoe trip. We get a scene of them dealing with code stuff at something. about her. Someone pooped on the patio. Jesus Christ. They need to add a ramp to get to the patio to make

an ADA compliant and then there's all this other stuff that's happening and there's logistical red tape and Ariana Wood asked who she needs to blow at City Hall but it's West Hollywood so they're all gay. I thought that was funny. But they also talk about the Tahoe trip. They have zero FOMO you know, it's everybody in house together. She's like, I don't even know if Tom

Schwartz thinks it's a good idea and it's literally his trip. And this is also I think something that kind of goes back to what I was saying before is that this trip feels just like it, it stretches the boundaries of reality just a little bit too much where it's like, okay, so Lisa's opening this restaurant in Tahoe, but like a year from now. It's not open. Like if they were going for the grand opening, I would be like, yeah, great, they should all be in Tahoe. No, they're going to see like this empty-ass building that Lisa, like, suggested to Schwartz he should get the gang together. And then, so Schwartz got the gang together minus Ariana and Katie, because he was the only one who could conceivably invite Sandoval on this trip. But it doesn't make sense for him to be the one inviting Lala and James and Ali.

Like, I don't really think that Schwartz ever was the get the gang together kind of guy. So now that he's been put in this role, I don't dislike Tom Schwartz. I think that he serves a purpose, but I don't think that his purpose historically has ever been, he's never been the number one guy in the group. And that's really what it is. That it's like Tom Schwartz hosting a trip feels so. wrong. It's like seeing a, what is it, like a dog walking on his hind legs, wearing a tuxedo. It's like, what are you doing here? Get on all fours and stop wearing clothes. Now I have a visual of

Tom Schwartz's like naked crawling, which is not the worst visual, I guess. But yeah, I just, I think the, um, the sort of mise en sen of this cast trip just feels a little. little bit off and it does feel a little bit like what are we doing here. But anyway, I mean, that's not all that's happening. We have Sheena and Brock screaming at each other in a swimsuit shop. And I got to say, I feel like their issues, maybe, maybe I'm being dumb. Maybe nobody else feels this way. I feel like the height that their issues have reached seems like.

it sort of came out of nowhere to me. Because if you think back, okay, so two seasons ago on Vanderpump Rules, this was the season that Brock was like fully on the cast. They bumped him to full time right away. That was the season that he and Sheena got engaged during James and Rickal's engagement weekend. And that was the season where Brock was on the show so much. and every single time he appeared on camera,

he was just dropping red flags left and right. Every single episode, I felt like I would come on here and be like, what are we going to do about Brock? Get Sheena out of there. And then last season, smartly, he bumped back down to a friend of kind of role. He mostly just appeared at home with Sheena and in group scenes, but he wasn't always there.

You know, we got to see Sheena's wedding, of course, but it wasn't about him. He didn't have his own storyline. And I think it worked brilliantly. And to be honest, last season, I mean, obviously Scandival ended up at the end of the day sort of drowning out everything else,

but Brock and Sheena's relationship wasn't really a topic of conversation last season. You know, maybe Sheena wished that it was a little bit more just in terms of the attention. But I was not coming on the podcast last season and being like, well, this fucking guy from Australia, what is he doing? Bootleg Jason Mamawa, get your shit together.

But this week, specifically, it feels like this tension over Shina's hesitation to hire a nanny or to let anyone that's not her mom or her sister take care of her child. it felt like it spiraled into a huge thing so fast. And I mean, obviously, they're living this parenting reality 24-7, even when the cameras aren't there. So I don't necessarily think that it did spiral quite as fast as it felt on the show.

But when they're in this swimsuit shop, and they're heated, heated. And in the middle of a public store that's, like, open currently, and Sheena just goes, I don't want to fight in a in the fucking store with people I don't know. This is weird. And Brock, Brock's like, it's not weird, Sheena. That's just optics. And I'm like, sir, oi, o might. The fact that Sheena has lived her life on this fucking thunder dome of a reality TV show

for over a decade. And even she in that moment can be like, wait, wait, wait, wait. we're at an 11 in this public place surrounded by strangers right now. Let's take this somewhere else. Let's bring it down a notch. This is not how people behave. And Brock, who's like got here the day before yesterday. And isn't even a full-time cast member on the show.

It's like, why do you think it's weird that we're screaming in a store? No, it's not. That's just optics. Who cares about optics? because it's like, yeah, the optics of you screaming at your wife in a store are not great. And whether it's optics or not, maybe you should stop doing that. There was something really off-putting about him saying it's just optics. It's like, okay, yeah, like maybe on people on Twitter are going to be like,

Barack and she are a mess. But also, it's not normal to be having a screaming argument in a store. That was so weird to me that he was trying to like gaslight her into thinking that she's, wrong for saying that it's weird. It's like, no, no, no, no. She's correct. Say what you want about Sheena 95% of the time. She had the right instinct at that moment where she's like, okay, this is a lot.

We got to take this outside. And then later when they're at Tahoe and she's like, you know, back and I are focused right now on having a fun weekend with everyone at Tahoe. So we're like putting the nanny thing to the side for a minute. but like I still am like annoyed at every single thing he does. You are? How do we get here? So fast.

I was, I got to say last season, when Brock was on the show less and that we were kind of focused less on their relationship, I feel like I was kind of in the place of like, yeah, I feel like they're really happy together. I feel like they kind of like found it. I feel like this might work out and it might still. But all of a sudden. that in this episode, I feel like my eyes were open and I'm like, oh, they are not in a good place. It kind of gives PK and Dorete on this season a little bit, where Doret's still kind of going through it in the wake of the home invasion.

And P.K. is like not, not being supportive, but sort of like pushing back on some of her specific triggers and issues and kind of trying to get her to a place of being okay. in the way that maybe is not what she needs. And I feel like that's kind of what Brock is doing with Sheena and the child care situation, that it's like, it's a process. And I, I mean, I am not a parent. I can't speak to the way that people, you know, process learning to let go in that sense and let somebody take care of their kids. I mean, eventually summer's going to go to school and you're not going to have her with you

for how many hours out of the day. But it just felt like, why are we getting to this love? level. Let's all just have photo shoots with wolves and have a good time. That photo shoot. My God. Are those real wolves? I don't know. I realized watching this episode. I don't know if I can tell the difference between a wolf and like a husky or like a malab, malamute, malab, whatever the dog is. Can you like cuddle with a wolf? That seems dangerous. I actually have seen wolves in the wild. I went to Yellowstone with my family. when I was like eight years old, I don't know if it was like my parents or maybe I was a little kid.

I was like obsessed with wolves. We were all obsessed with wolves. And we had done research or like my, I guess like my mom had done research about like where in Yellowstone at this time of year X, Y, Z are you like most likely to be able to see wolves? And so there was this spot, this like rock outcropping or something that it was like, okay, you go to this place around dusk. And there might be, you might be able to see wolves. Like, In the distance. Like, we're not, we weren't, like, cuddling with, we're not Lisa Vanderpump. And I think we had to go back more than, like, a couple different days, but we saw them.

We fucking saw the wolves. And they were sexy and masculine and a big, bad wolf. God, the way Lisa Van der Pamp describes all of her establishments is just so inspired. I wanted it to be flirtatious and sensitive. sexy and, you know, really get the people going. You got a little Irish there for a second. Really, really get the people going. Okay.

This has got to be over. You guys, I am not doing well. What is happening? I hope you enjoyed this episode, though. I don't even really know what I said. But in the meantime, thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. We will be back tomorrow with more reunion.

content to reunion episodes coming up. Very exciting stuff. But until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca Sousmaqat. Editing by Jorge Morales Pico. Social media by Dylan Hafer.

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