Mention It All - Live From Ground Level Zero Ft. Christine Biancavilla (RHOBH, RHODubai)

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

Dylan is joined by fellow Bravoholic Christine Biancavilla for a packed double recap of Beverly Hills and Dubai. They discuss how numerous off-camera events have made this season of RHOBH difficult to follow, and Erika’s questionable motivation for suddenly being Team Crystal. Then, they move to Dubai and discuss the solidifying dynamics within the group, and why Caroline Brooks is smart to position herself as the wild card. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, Bill. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer. And today I am excited to be joined by a good friend of mine who is, of course, a fellow bravo-holic. Please welcome Christine Bianca Villa.

Hi. Hi, Christine. Welcome to the studio. I'm so excited to be here. How's it going? It's going. Get comfy, you know. I know.

This is my first time in like a real podcast studio. I feel so important. Isn't it? It makes such a big different. I mean, for like a year and a half of this podcast, I was just solely recording from my bedroom. And like it's nice to just like chill. It's, I've done that before.

And I feel like I always mess up the audio. Like I never do it correctly. So it's nice to like. The thing also is that like sometimes on a podcast such as this, the guest that you're having on might be. extremely wealthy or pretending to be extremely wealthy. And so they're in their like glam room set up, whatever. And I'm like, okay, well, like, this is a wall.

There's my pillows in the background. I'm sitting on my bed and this is it. Welcome to my home. Yeah. You know, we do what we can. We make do. But we are here to talk about today, Beverly Hills and Dubai. Lots going on.

And Beverly Hills especially, I feel like, has just. sort of exploded into chaos in the last week or so. Yeah, lots going on and it's very hard to follow. I will say that. Beverly Hills tends to do this, but right now we're in this like weird, tough loop of just like it feels like everything that's happening is related to something that has happened off camera or a long time ago or, you know, just like outside of the context of filming. And it just is like, wait, okay.

13 friends? Yeah. No, it is so confusing because they're like speaking not in full sentences. Like they're just like talking as if we like know what's happening. And I'm like, I don't even know who you're talking about. Who are these other friends? Like it's. Right.

So, you know, Crystal had brought up the idea that Sutton said something dark a couple weeks ago and this was this, you know, football that had been thrown into the group. And then we had to figure out what to do with it. And then last week we, Sutton said that she had told this story about her daughter's multi-ethnic friends in the jacuzzi together, which was, you know, a little bit er, but not necessarily problematic in the way that Crystal made it sound. And then last week's episode ended with Sutton bringing up this insinuation rumor that she had heard about Crystal being a social climber, having a falling out with friends. And so it's like three layers

of things that are not actually happening on the show. And then so this week we're kind of left in this aftermath of like, okay, so Crystal sort of came for Sutton about something that we didn't see. And then Sutton throughout this other big thing. And so how are we reacting to that? And suddenly Erica is like Crystal's biggest cheerleader. Like go after Sutton. Get her.

Get her. Get her. Get her. Go. They hate Sutton so much. Like they were just like, well, how was your day? Well, Crystal was sobbing all day. Like, they hate her so much.

These two separate, I always love when they do this on the trips where there's two activities. And like, the activities happen for like five minutes. And then it's just like, no, we've split you into groups. Right. To talk about each other. Talk about what happened last night. The shopping versus the surfing, I just would be so mad. Because you know that production was probably like, okay, so you ladies are going to surf.

Right. And you ladies will go shop. And if I were in that surfing group, I would have been so fucking mad. throw hands. I would be like absolutely not. You're not getting me at my in a bathing suit hunched over on a surfboard. Like that's my most vulnerable position. Like I'll sit on the beach until it's time to gossip. But like I'm not doing the surfing. Right. Can we just sit at like a swim up bar and chat? I don't want to get on a surfboard. They really love activities. But it is funny because it's like one of the activities is always just shopping. Yes. It's always shopping. And it's like, okay, you can ride a camel or you can go to the market. And it's like the market. I want to go to the market. I want to go to the market. I mean, ideally, I want to, like, take a nap, but we have to do this. So we're going to.

I would love to know, like, firsthand. I'm sure this is, like, somebody on TikTok, I'm sure has done, like, a, like, spill, like, spill the tea about this. But, like, how early are these women waking up? Like, are they, is it, like, 9 a.m. You have to be ready for surf class. Like, it's, I feel like it's public ruling. Well, probably if you do glam.

That's true. That's, like, you need at least, like, an hour and a half. So Crystal, no glam. glam. Right. Crystal, no glam. extra hour of sleep. Wait, I was laughing so hard.

When you put that meme up, it was like braver than the U.S. Marines. Crystal, no glam. It is so. I was like, is everyone okay? It is so funny because it's like, I feel like when Garcel first came on the show, it felt like she was doing a little bit of the Denise thing where it was like, what the fuck is everyone trying so hard for it? And now she's like, no, I'm bringing glam.

And like, if you can, great. Like, I would love to have someone follow me around. But like, I also miss like the era of just like the women. just like being women like totally getting ready and like a humid like you know foreign wherever they are just like no air conditioning sweating and just like having fun by like day three everyone's hair looks a little frizzy yeah it's like scary island everyone's hair was like insane by like day two there's like sweaty like sunken like there's mascara like all under their eyes because there's no glam yeah i miss that i i i respect that crystal's like why would i

pay for their services to fly them out here for them to stay in a hotel room for all of this for their food for their meals while they're here she's like why would I pay for any of that when I can just like put on blush myself she's like I can put on lip cloths and that's that also I feel like crystal is um she is privileged in the sense that she maybe doesn't need as much work as yeah she's also so much younger I always forget how yeah she's in her 30s and some of these women are you know 50 plus yeah I do. Erica is like, of course I want glam.

Like, don't judge me for wanting glam. And it's like, nobody, I tweeted this. I'm like, nobody's judging you for wanting glam. Right. We're judging you for the fact that your money was accrued shadily. Right. And that money is being spent. Right.

On glam. Nobody's like, how dare you like fashion? No, it's insane. It's like, no, it's just you're using the stolen money. Allegedly. Did you notice this week? So she's been pushing this narrative. so far this season that her name has been cleared.

Everything is done in the past, whatever. And then she's like, I got called a bully in a new court filing just yesterday. Like they're saying she bullied blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, which is it, babe? Like, if you're still being named in court filings, then clearly not everything is like signed and sealed. Yeah. And done. I also don't think her name was cleared.

I mean, because Garsell kind of said it. She was like, we would, it would be in the next. news. Like, we haven't heard anything. It's like still happening. Right. I think there are a lot of different processes and stuff going on and there have been different lawsuits and bankruptcies and all of the stuff. And it's like maybe she's been like eliminated from certain parts of it. One charge or right. But it's like we're still seeing there's like a two million dollar tax bill and there's like this bankruptcy thing and this conservatorship thing. It's like she's not just like finished. And like are she still getting a divorce? Who knows? Like I don't even know what's happening with that. Is Tom?

Okay. Has anyone seen him? And I haven't seen him in like a year. Yeah. No, I think, I don't know. I don't know if that divorce is ever going to be finalized. I don't know. I think it, he might. I mean, at this point, that would probably make it easier for her. Right. Just like separate from him entirely. But I don't know. I'm not one, not giving free legal advice here. Yeah. In the last, like, year, I feel like half of the episodes I record, I have to be like, so I'm not a lawyer. Yeah. Like, allegedly, please. Like, anytime I'm talking about Jen, any. Anytime I'm talking about Erica, anytime I'm talking about, like, I don't know, Louie and joke or. Weirdly, a lot of so many legal problems on Bravo. A lot of dealing with the law. Your summer starts now with Memorial Day deals at the Home Depot. It's time to fire up summer cookouts with the next grill, four-burner gas grill, on special buy for only $199. And entertain all season with the Hampton Bay West Grove seven-piece outdoor dining set for only $499.

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Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. But so Crystal and Sutton in their separate activity groups are talking about what happened the night before. And Sutton says that she is at ground level zero with Crystal now. That basically their whatever friendship they had going on has sort of been like eliminated. Right. Because, you know, Crystal is calling her. liar and like saying this stuff. Whereas Crystal, she's not, we're not really getting so much

anger or aggression. It's like she just seems really like upset and kind of like hurt about how this situation has gone down. Some people are saying that Crystal has basically brought this upon herself by bringing up Sutton's dark comment in the first place. Like how do you, how have you been processing this? I mean, I all, I think I actually, I really like both of them. And I, but I don't think Crystal should have even brought this up if she wasn't going to tell everyone what she said because the thing about the jacuzzi, I don't, that, that's not what it was. Right. Right?

Like that can't be it. And I think Sett and said it on Watch What Happens Live. So Crystal said on watch what she said to the group, yes, this is what I was talking about. It's the jacuzzi thing. Ding, ding, ding. Right. But then she said on Watch What Happens Live that there was another comment she was talking about.

And it feels to me like what probably happened was Crystal sort of realized that she had put her her mouth a little bit by bringing it up. So then when Sutton presented this story and was like, this is the thing, Crystal saw that as kind of like a, oh, if I just say, yes, that was the thing, then we'll stop talking about it. Right. It'll go away. But the problem was, obviously, the other women in the group weren't really satisfied

with that because they're like, okay, so if that's the thing, then like, why did you act like it was like so horrible? Right. And now I do feel like Crystal has sort of like painted herself into a corner where it's like, it does, even if Sutton deserved to be like held accountable for saying something, Crystal was the one who brought it up in this instance. And so now the burden is sort of on her to be like, you know, back up what she's saying or apologize to Sutton, I guess, which like I don't really feel like she owes Sutton

an apology. But at the same time I think. She didn't. But now she kind of does for like making this thing. Yeah. And in the context of the group, I think that's what like Kyle. and Garcell see as kind of the way forward is like, apologize for bringing this up. And then Sutton will apologize for calling you a shitty friend or whatever.

And then you can, you know, go back to square ground level. Ground level. I just like, we need to like stop bringing up things that don't happen on camera. Right. It just is so confusing for us. Like, I don't know. It's difficult unless it's about the throwing the book in the trash. But like anything else that doesn't happen on camera.

Right. And that was, you know, that was after. they had filmed this season. So it's like, we'll talk about that at the reunion. I'm ready, I'm down for that. That's like a watch what happens live topic. But I think what's really standing in the way of Sutton and Crystal being able to kind of just like put it down is that Erica now senses blood in the water and that Crystal has like

an opening to dislike Sutton and it's like. Yeah. And even Crystal said that. She was like, I know Erica just hates Sutton. Maybe that's why she's on my side. I'm like, that's it. That's correct. The way Erica is like coaching her, she's like.

like, you need to sit her down and you need, like, I've never seen her. She's, like, so focused on that target. At one point, it wasn't even Crystal and Sutton talking. It was everyone else, like, talking for them. I'm like, what? Everyone has to calm down. Yeah, when they sat down at the dinner table, the way that Erica, Sutton couldn't get a word out.

And Erica's like, no, tell her, tell her, say it. Crystal, go. And it's like, like, when Garcella's like, are you like, are you good? Yeah. No, Garcell's like, what did she? She's like, Erica, you're really pissing me off. Like, just stop. Well, and it's, of course, it's hilarious that Erica's like, well, why wouldn't I be

involved in this? And it's like, if it was you, if somebody's asking about your legal issues, you're like, shut the fuck up about something you don't know anything about. So it's like, just rich that Erica's like, of course I'm involved. Of course I'm involved. I'm like, it's insane. But this is where we really see Diana sort of get in the mix a little bit. And Diana is, she's, you know, noticing things in Sutton that she, that are bothering her in these contradictions.

And she's a bacon eating vegetarian. And I don't know. I don't know. It feels like Diana. I don't know if she sort of senses an opening to kind of like step into the group more. or if she really just like, if Sutton's just rubbing her the wrong way. But it does come on. It feels like she's coming on a little strong now and that it's like all of a sudden

she's really chosen aside and that she's going to be like team Crystal, which is really team Erica, which is also team Rina and kind of like go after Sutton a little bit. I also just think she never liked Sutton. So like it's right. It's like easy to do that. But I'm also so confused about like, then like maybe she's distracting because stuff about her was coming out. Like I, it was a lot. Yeah.

Rina, I've seen a lot of people have been saying this on social media and I agree that Rina bringing up this book again for the second time. It feels calculated that it's like Rina has to know that there's no way this book is going to come up without the conversation around the book coming up, which is of course these rumors. whatever blind items, you know, it's all, if you do enough Googling, you'll come across it, that it's like, there was this rumor that this book of women was essentially like a black book. And she was this like Hollywood madam or whatever, like on yachts in Europe. Like, and it's just like, I understand why Diana doesn't want to talk about it. But at the same time, it's like, there's no way it's not going to come up. Right.

Especially when Rina is like, talk about the book. Right. And it's like you're on a reality TV show. Like nothing's not going to come up. That's why I hate when like they're like, I don't want to talk about it. I'm like, okay, well, we're all here. Right. It's like, it's one thing if you have your kind of like prepared response and you don't really want to like dig into it a little more.

But it's like you can't be that mad or that surprised that it's being broached. Right. Literally all I could think was cop without a badge. I was like, that's all I was picturing. I was like, what is this book? There are two things that are true. I was like, this is, I can't do this again. That's all I was picturing with the book.

If Renna was really on her, if she was on her A game, she would have brought the book. She would have brought the book. Someone told me it's $499 on Amazon. Jesus Christ. Someone like sent me a link. I was like, what? Do you want me to buy it? Like what is the, this is insane.

Cop without badge is hard to find too. Yeah. Well, because all of these books, they weren't like bestsellers. They're not still in print. Right. And then they've like sold out because of because of us. Because the interest around. Maybe I can get it on my Kindle or something.

I'll find a way to download it. Just Renna's naked body on your Kindle. Like, now I want to read it. Now I need to know what's happening. I'd rather have that book than Renna's like blowjob tip book. That book? I don't know what like, and like with her daughters. I'm like, I just can't.

She's like, Amelia learned everything she knows from me, including how to suck a dick. Like that's my nightmare. That is my nightmare. Did you see Amelia turned 21? She wasn't 21? Oh, I had no idea. No, no. Oh, my God.

I don't know why I thought she was older than she is. The birthday when she and Scott were together was like her 19th birthday. And of course they were at like a club in Miami. Right. She was like 19. Oh, my God. I don't know why I thought she was older. I guess because like they just look like they're like 35.

Yeah, I mean, Delilah is like 24-ish, probably. Oh, my God. Well, happy. birthday. She like bleached her eyebrows. Harry Hamlin was there. Harry Hamlin being 70 still just like crazy to me. My mind was blown when they said he was 70. I don't know how old I thought he was, but it wasn't 70. I thought he was like 63. Right. To me he was just like a vague 60 something. Right. Like early to mid 60s. And then he was like, and then I googled it because I was like, I don't believe that. He's 70. How insane is that? I don't know like why. That's so crazy to me.

Lisa Rinna was lying about his age to make him older. It's like he's not 70. He is. Back check. I fact check. There's like some retirement benefits that you're trying to get early. It's true. He's 70.

Oh my God. Getting back to this to this dinner in Mexico, the group of friends thing with Crystal has been brought up a few times now. And we find out not only. So last episode, Sutton was the one who brought it up. And then Rina said in her confessional that she had also. heard the same thing, but she's like, I'm not trying to bring that up. And then this week, Kyle also says in her confessional that she's heard it and that Crystal even told her

that there was this thing where she had had a falling out with 14 friends at once. I don't even number one. I don't, I don't, I don't, for, having 14 friends is like wild, like close friends that you could have a falling out with. Having a friend group of more than 14 people. Like that's insane. Like close enough where you could like have a falling out and it would like mean something. You know what I'm saying? Like not somebody like not 14 acquaintances. Somebody on Twitter was like, honey, that's a group departure. Yes. Literally. And who are these women? I mean, I'm sure they're. Right. Because like Rina and Kyle both seem to or say that they know these women or that they at least know of these women. Crystal seems confident that Sutton doesn't know any of these women. And I'm like, where is there?

what's the Venn diagram of like 14 rich L.A. women. Right. That like Crystal was friends with. Kyle and Rina sort of maybe no, but Sutton has like never come across them. I'm like, Beverly Hills, everyone knows each other. Like they all know each other.

They're all linked. Like where do they live? There's only like 50 of them total. Right. It's like in New York. It's like everybody at Ramona's birthday party. It's like they've all met Luann. Right.

Everyone knows. Right. Exactly. They all like know of each other. There's no way Sutton. just doesn't know them. Right. At the very least, I feel like they would have been at like a luncheon or like, what are they? Like, I don't even know. They're her friends from like from out of town. Yeah, like from college. Like I don't know. Like what are like. But yeah. I mean, it really is like,

I don't. The whole thing about Crystal maybe being like a social climber or whatever, like to me, that is kind of a nothing. Yeah. Because I'm like, I agree. You're all on a reality TV show. Like there is something inherently sort of social climbery about that. Like it's like, um, when we had Jill on the podcast last week and she was talking about how she hates the word thirsty and she's like first of all it's like okay like I like I like attention like whatever it is what it is but also it's like all of these bitches are have signed up to do this show everybody's like shilling their stuff on social media everybody you know it's you're playing the game and so like I feel like social climber is like in the same realm of that that it's like everybody wants to be

right like I'm not mad at that like You want to be on top? Right. But like this specific like anecdote of the fact that she lost 13 friends or 14 friends at one time, it's like there has to be like an event or like an incident. Like that doesn't just like. This just happens. It's not just like, oh, we grew apart. I grew apart with the 14 of them.

Right. Where are they now? So real, I mean, it sort of seems like nobody really wants to understand. pack this, that it's like Sutton threw it out there and then it kind of feels like, oh, we don't actually want to get into that. And Sutton sort of apologizes in her way for bringing that up. But like, now that it's been out there, it's like, well, let's talk. I want to know. It feels, it's not the same, but it's sort of like along the same lines of wanting to know what Sutton said that was so dark. It's like, okay, well, now I want to know what you did to

lose 14 friends. 14 friends at once. Like this, that doesn't just happen. And it's like we've been saying, another thing where it, I mean, that happened. It sounds like before Crystal was even on the show. And so we're not going to, they can't roll footage. Right. There's no. Roll the tapes. There's no like clip package for losing 14 friends.

And so it's like, are we just going to talk in circles about this? A clip package for losing 14 friends. It's like when they, um. Just imagine that. It's like when they get like news of like something's like hitting the tabloids and they show like each person reacting to it. Like when Bethany left Rome. Roni and they showed all the women like reading the article in Central Park.

Imagine it's just like 14 clips in a row of women being like fuck Crystal. Like a group text and you just see like Crystal was removed from the chat. Like women we've never seen before. I would love that. That's just like the montage to start the episode. But yeah. So it's like it's one of those things where it's like I am intrigued by that. I would like to know more.

But in the grand scheme of things, if we're not going to get that information, then it sort of feels like why are we talking about it in the first place. Right, then let's just drop it. Because if we're not, if you're not going to tell us, just forget about it then. But yeah, I mean, Sutton leaves the table. She's really upset. Diana's crying. Why was Diana crying?

I was so confused. Why was everyone crying? Yeah. It's one of those things where like maybe it's just because it's the first time she's really like been exposed to the like heightened emotions of the group in that way. And she said she was like away from her kid. I forgot about that. Yeah, she's like away from a kid.

She has hormones. Like I get it. But also it's like. I mean, I cry like twice a day. So I get it. But I was just like, did I miss something that everyone just like started something? Yeah. I am interested to see if Diana has any drama that's more like about her.

Yeah. Because I I don't like. Like I don't dislike the fact that she was sort of stepping into Crystal and Sutton's dynamic. But it's always, you know, a question of what's like, are you going to. have like your own storyline kind of and like maybe that's the book otherwise we don't really know yet like she has a jet she sends her team ahead of her she doesn't go to stores but like right I think I think she's fun like I don't mind her I think she's I'm sort of fascinated by her I've seen some people kind of like complaining about her questioning her casting and like I wouldn't

say that I'm like a hundred percent like a diana diana stanna da stana But like I'm not like hating her. No, I find her intriguing. Like I love knowing that she sends all these like people ahead of her to set up her room to make it feel like home. Like I love finding out that like you're so rich that you can just do that. That's what she brings. She's like brings like so much money. She's the absolute opposite of Crystal.

Crystal's like, why would I pay for a hotel room for my glam? Right. And she's like, I'll pay for the hotel room for three extra days. Extra plane. Blah, blah, blah. Like set up everything. Make sure it's good. Meanwhile, Kyle's like ironing her pants.

That was so, the contrast of that. She was like, oh, I have to do the bat. We've all been there. Yeah. Where you like iron the shirt, then you look in the mirror and you're like, oh, fuck. I'm going to just leave it. It's fine. Ready to soundtrack your summer?

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Okay, let's talk about Dubai because I don't want to, I don't want to miss our chance to talk about Dubai. So we're three episodes in now. And it feels like the friendship lines have pretty much been drawn in the sand. In the sand dunes. Arabian Desert. So Lisa and Ion are positioning themselves as this. dynamic duo kind of. The Thelma and Louise. I'm sure they'll say that. And I love both of them.

Me too. As Brooks would call them the pinky and the brain. The Brennan Stimpy. She's like she's throwing out every duo she can think of. She's like, Lisa is the brains. And Ayanna's pinky. I love them though. Like they're fun.

Right. I love them too. They're both bringing it. I think they both are really understanding the assignment. And then on the. opposite end, we have Caroline Stanbury. And I feel like she's sort of trying to be a dynamic duo with Nina. But we keep hearing from both of them that it sounds like they fucking hated each other until like 10 minutes ago. And to me, they're saying like, oh, people were always saying we would

be good friends. And then like, we finally like got to know each other. And it's like, no, you finally found out you're going to be on a TV show together. So you like got lunch. Right. So you like established maybe with the help of production that you two would kind of be like girl gal pals on the show. Right. Because it's like, it's always funny sort of like reading between the lines of like what happened before cameras were there. And it's like, oh, you guys weren't like friends. Right. Because she was like, oh, she was not my cup of tea. And then like she's like, but you know what? Then I got to know her. Yeah. It's like that. Then I realized that we were going to be spending a lot more time together. And it would be better to have one friend. One friend. One ally than zero. Right. And then in the

It sort of feels like we have Sarah and Caroline Brooks because Sarah seems like she is not really shady to anyone. And she kind of can just float. And then on the flip side, you have Brooks, who seems like she is like equal opportunity. Oh, yeah. And I actually like both of them also. I really like Sarah. I think she's very interesting. Sarah is very interesting.

Like I want to know more about her. Right. Because we don't know like too much. And I also really like Brooks, Caroline Brooks. I love Caroline Brooks. To me, she is very entertaining. And this episode, I mean, she's... Is she the one from Boston?

Yes, she's the one from Boston. But, like, she's shading Caroline Stanbury for her, like, influencer vibe. Yes, I love. She's, you know, shading Lisa and Ion for their, like, dynamic duoness. She's shading Sarah for her head to toe plastic surgery. It's phenomenal. It's, like, she really... She is kind of doing it perfectly where it's, like, she can throw shade at anyone,

but there's nobody that she's actually like fighting with. And you know who that reminds me of? Early season Bethany. Oh. Like who like she obviously Bethany fought with people. But when she was just like the narrator almost, just like giving confessionals like so funny. That's who she could be, I think. Yeah.

I think Caroline Brooks has done a good job positioning herself as sort of like a swing vote a little bit in the group already. And that it's like right now she is sort of standing back a little bit. but and you know kind of just making her commentary and being shady and funny and whatever but like depending where the drama goes or where the storylines go it's like I feel like she could be ruthless if you if she like actually turns on you whereas right now she's just kind of like fun shade yeah and she'll like call people I feel like she'll start calling people out but like no one will I hope she I like this role for her though and the lunch that she got with Lisa and Ion was really interesting because they're still talking about this.

this phone call, this 7 a.m. phone call. You know, Ayan hadn't even peed in the morning. That was so funny to me. So, Ayanne is hilarious. But so she, Brooks is saying, Stanbury never called, said you were unimportant. I said it. I was the one who said it.

Me, me, me, me, me. But then somehow it's like this mind trick she's doing where the lunch ends with Lisa saying that Stanbury needs to apologize. And it's like, the other one just said that it was her. Right. It wasn't Carol. And it's like kind of brilliant the way that I feel like Caroline Brooks is like, I'm telling, I'm telling it like it is 100%. I said it.

Right. We're good. And then Ion and Lisa still leave that lunch, mad at Stanford. Right. I just, I think they just don't like her. Yeah. Which, again, is great for the dynamic and for us. Exactly.

It's great for us. Yeah. And then this whole episode leads up to Lisa's fashion show, which by the way, I loved the collection. I thought the clothes looked great. It was so fantastic. I love her clothes. The maternity stuff looked great. The non-maternity stuff looked great.

I loved that Ayan was kind of like helping facilitate that. You know, their friendship feels lived in. It feels real to me. It feels real. And I like how it was also like it's an established brand, an established show that like happens. It's not like, you know, she gets on a show and just like decides to like make a company. Like all of these women like seem like very established. Right.

The one I would say is like Caroline Brooks is like. gonna open a spa. Oh yeah, yeah, that's, yeah. We'll see. But everyone else is like, like, Sarah, she was talking about like NFTs, which again, I still don't know what that is, but like, she has like a bunch of companies already. Yeah. They're all various, like, established in their wealth, I feel like. Yeah, I was, I'm, I'm curious your thoughts as someone who, you know, is familiar with the fashion industry. What are your thoughts on them saying that like the, the major events on the fashion calendar are like Paris, London, Milan, Dubai?

Not. Again, I don't want to be mean, but like I would say no, but I don't, I mean, it's like. Maybe like if you're ranking, it's like Paris, Milan, London, Dubai. Right, right. And it's like I would also put, I would say New York.

Yeah, well, yeah. Right, obviously. Like you have New York and Paris are the biggest. And then Milan big and also on accessories, Milan's big. and then, like, Dubai, it's, it's lovely. But it's not like the fashion capital of the world. Obviously, there is a lot of money in Dubai. Right.

And I think that's maybe like, because they can throw money at stuff and like make these big productions. Right. And obviously like the luxury clientele is there. Of course. But I don't like, I don't see like Dubai Fashion Week. It's like, remember when they, who did? Was it OC Fashion Week? That someone showed something.

And I was like, oh, good God. Like this is not what it's supposed to. I mean, the. Housewives love a fashion week that's like... Yeah, like a third or like C-list. I feel like we got like Dallas Fashion Week once or twice. Like Miami's whim, I guess, is more legit. Yeah, that's like a sports illustrated vibe.

And like Dubai is great. Like no shade to Dubai. But I wouldn't say it. Okay. One of the... Good to know. But Lisa's like when Stanbury can't come to Lisa's thing and text her the day of, she's like, my event has been on the calendar.

from months. I'm like, I mean, maybe like on your calendar. Right. Maybe not everyone else's maybe you've had the date. I don't think Caroline Stanbury six months ago was like,

got to make it to Lisa's show. It was on your calendar. Not anyone else's. She should make like a Google invite. Send it out. What are your, what's your vibe with Caroline and Sergio? Loaded question because I don't know yet.

I've always loved Caroline, like big ladies of London fan. And I was so excited for her to be on Dubai and like start this franchise. But, and I still really like her, but I'm just like, I don't know, like the dynamic between her and Sergio. I mean, if they're happy, great. Yeah. But I do. It does seem kind of like, I don't know, something about it is not sitting well with my spirit. But if she's happy, I, congratulations. I feel similar to you that it's like, I don't really know. And I don't know if I even really care to like, you know, decide.

Right. But it is funny to me, like, how many people sort of are, like, not vibing with that relationship. And, like, the way Ayan talks about it, she, like, just, she's, like, ruthless. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't care enough to make a decision. She's like, collaboration.

Yeah, she's, the collaboration ship is, I love, I love her so much. Maybe. I mean, could be. Could be. And go ahead. Go ahead. Do it. I also, like, I mean, I, not that it matters, but, like, I don't believe Caroline wants a baby. Yeah, I wouldn't agree with that.

Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. Her daughter, she wants a baby. Certainly doesn't want another baby in the family. She's like, I'm asking. I really like her kids too.

They're fun. Honestly, like, if my parents had gotten remarried when I was like 15 and they were talking about having another baby, I'm like, why? Yeah. You're done. Right. I'm here. Enough.

Enough. You have me. We're done. Do you know how much money you're going to spend on me in the next seven years? Right. Like, I haven't even gone to college. yet. Like, let's take a back seat. Right. Like, I don't, I don't want my, I don't want my, like, dining hall money for college being, like, frittered away on, like, you need diapers.

Not the dining hall money. I went to, I went to Tulane where it was called wave bucks. Oh my God. I love that. I was like, no, like, if I need to add wave bucks to my account, I don't want you to be like, well. You can't be using it for wipes. We had to pay the preschool deposit. Like, that phase is over. Right. We're done. No. And like, that's tiring, too. Like, aren't you tired, like, to have, like, a newborn? I mean, I get, you know. I did also back at the beginning of the episode when Nina and Caroline were, like,

at the Atlantis, like, aquarium suite or whatever. And it's like, they all have, like, young kids. And then Yasmin just walks in the room and she's, like, texting. And she's like, what? I can't. And that was where Beverly Hills went. Okay. I was like, this has to be.

How many fish rooms are there in Dubai? I mean, there could be many. But, okay, I just wanted to confirm. That is where Beverly Hills went. That was a great trip. I miss that. I miss those days. That was a good trip.

Oh my God. Yeah. No, but it was, it's just like, it is kind of fun seeing them do activities with their kids. But then you realize that it's like, oh, Caroline's daughter is like a full teenager. Right. She's like an adult. Isn't she like, is she 16? I think they said she was 15.

Oh, I don't know why. Like Kiron said she was 15. So maybe she's like 16 now. Yeah. But she's not little. No, yeah. She's, she has opinions. I don't know.

Yeah. So what would you, if you had to like rate, do. buy so far just to finish off like one to ten like because I feel like some people I've seen some people that are like obsessed with it and then of course I've seen the people on social media that can't be happy with anything and they're right boring no can't watch right like just let us have something nice I actually am liking it but it's it's the first season of something like give it a second number one like it's been four three four episodes five like give it a minute we're still getting to know these women I'm liking it because it's like an easy watch right now

Like we're just learning about people. Like, yeah. I don't need, like, someone to go to prison right now. Like, or, like, someone to get divorced. Like, we're good. We're good learning about each other. It's like, right. We're stepping into the shallow end, which I'm fine with.

I like it. The indictment is season two. Right, exactly. We can come back to, you know, the FBI, whatever. Like, we can come back to whatever storylines they want to do. But I like it. I'm having, I'm having a good time. Okay, me too.

And I like it because it's just like another level of rich. Like, there's so much money. I love it. I love seeing, like, rich people do things. That's part of why, like, I can't wait for Miami to come back because I just want, like, I just want, like, petty drama and wealth. And wealth, you know, I'm so excited for Miami and Potomac can't wait for. I mean, obviously. I know.

It's like July, I think they just finished. They were on their last trip, like last week. My girls. Candice is performing at D.C. Pride. Yes. I saw on, which, like, I don't know. Where's Ashley? Where's coffee and love?

No, Ashley's Virginia Gay Pride. Coffee and Love is a buff. It tastes best when high. Like I find myself listening to that often. Watch it's going to be like my top song on Spotify in 2020. I think that happened to my friend. Like drive back was in his top 10 for sure. Drive back is also fantastic.

Love that. They make pops. I can't argue. Christine, this has been so fun. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks for having me. This was so fantastic. I'm glad you had a good time as well.

Tell everyone where they can follow you. I'm on Instagram at Christine Bianca Villa, which is just my full name spelled out. And yeah, I'm on Twitter. I love Twitter. It's like a safe space, except not. But it is ruthless. A safe space unless people are discussing Joe and Teresa.

No. New Jersey Twitter is the scariest place on Earth. Or Potomac. So frightening. Like I have never been so scared to tweet something than like during New Jersey and like the discourse. I was like, I'm not saying a word because someone's going to like find my family's home and like, Kill a. Yeah.

Catch me putting like asterisks in every name so nobody can say. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter. X-D. Bianx with an X. If I ever tweet about Danielle Stout, I'm putting like four asterisks in her name. Oh my God, no. I just say Beverly. Yeah, there we go. She's not searching for that.

That's not her name. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for being here. Thank you everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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