Mention It All - Losing Friends, Gaining Clarity Ft. Guerdy Abraira

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

As this season of RHOM heats up, Guerdy Abraira returns to the studio to break it all down with Dylan. They chat about all the ways this year felt different, and Guerdy gets real about her experience with tackling cancer and fake friends at the same time. They also discuss some other events within the group, like Alexia’s evolving relationship with Adriana and Kiki’s relatable feelings about being single. Later, Guerdy reflects on her cast’s runaway success, and how reality TV has changed her. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to check me, boo. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I am in the studio today with a returning guest, a returning champion, back to the show. With a little less hair. A little less hair, a little more fan blowing, no less fabulous. Please welcome back to the show, Gertie Abrera. Hello.

The champion. I made it. You made it and you're here? And I am fabulous, darling. Yes. How are you feeling? I feel fabulous. I am fabulous.

I just love life right now, more than ever. Appreciate it so much more. I loved seeing you at BravoCon this fall because it felt like you were, it just feels like you have this like free energy where you're like, you're feeling good. You're not taking things too serious maybe. Like it just is, I feel like it's kind of that infectious energy. Did you feel like you were kind of like had like leveled up a little bit this year? A hundred percent.

You know, I think that I literally just like became so much more comfortable with myself. Chemo is so symbolic anyway, right? Because it drains all your toxins and your, you know, your dangerous, you know, chemicals out of your body. And also I think it just drained all the stress away as well. So that's how I took it. As painful as it was, I was feeling in my head like I was just releasing what no longer serves me, honey. Well, congratulations. You shared your cancer-free.

I watched you on Instagram live. Ring the radiation bell. Oh, you did. I was getting a little, a little misty. This year, I mean, you have, you've been through so much this year. We've seen, I mean, I feel like Real Housewives of Miami. Every year, it's somebody going through. Something, right?

Through the trial of a lifetime. Yeah. And it's, it's amazing to see, like, to watch everyone come through these personal struggles. We are the epitome of reality TV for real. Like we're nothing scripted for sure. It just happens. It just roll and we're sharing. And that's what's happening there. I, so you were last here in this exact chair in February. It was the end of season five, the tail end. Now we're kind of like we're like getting our toes wet. We're a few weeks into season six. Obviously, you know, things have come in your personal life that you're in a different place.

but just in terms of the season as a whole, how is this year versus the last two? I mean, last season, I just was, you know, passing by, you know, just going about my life with my girls, just not even knowing what the future was holding for me. And then all of a sudden, you know, March is when the beginning of the diagnosis started all happening and it just became a world win. And then I get diagnosed and I film a week later.

Literally. So season six was like the final diagnosis of the invasive tumor happened a week before. for filming. So you were really like, you were still figuring out exactly what it meant for you personally while the cameras are coming back and they're like, hello.

And it's a slow process. It's like, oh, you have this, but we need to wait for that before we know if you have this too. So everything was like a drip, drip flow. And mind you, while I'm trying to figure out what's happening here,

then it's like focusing on the camera. And I never regretted filming what happened with my cancer journey because it is so important to bring awareness to show people the real reality of this cancer. And so there was nothing about it that I would regret.

It's just that I never thought what would happen on the show storyline-wise for others would like would trigger me in the way it did. And that's where it became just a whole different ballgame. I'm like, I thought it was going to be your awareness, you know, sharing. And all of a sudden it became a storyline. Right. And something, people always talk about the idea of like a personal storyline. Yes. And I mean, sometimes it is a little bit like, oh, I'm doing this, you know, it'll look fun on the show.

Sure. But when you're going through something like that, it's just you're living your life and the cameras are there. But then when the group kind of takes it in a different direction, then that's like. That was my blind spot. And that was the issue for me is kind of like, wait, how are we here when that was not even supposed to be part of this story of mine. I was supposed to just kind of show what he was going to be like day to day dealing with this cancer. And now I'm actually, someone is making it harder for me. to deal with this reality when I literally, I'm trying to put emotionally these pieces together.

And so at the new Horizontist party, I don't initiate any conversation that is negative. I'm actually like, hey, hey, girl's trying to make it all positive, making it a new horizon. And I get approached with this bombardment of questioning of our stupid, who's the fake is? What did you call me the fakeest? And that's when it starts steamrolling into a whole different direction. I note this. I did not bring it on the show, that whole thing with, you know, the, the girl.

Right. She brings it on to me. So that's how it started, and he was never supposed to go that route. Yeah. So making it very clear that I didn't bring it on to the show like that. You said last time you were here that you weren't sure where you stood with Larsa.

I feel like now maybe there's some clarity. Well, you're just going to have to keep on watching, honestly, because I don't think I ever got an opportunity yet on the show to say why I even called her the fake is. What she did to me that I felt was triggering. for me to say, this is not my friend and we need to re-evaluate our friendship.

So hopefully it will show itself. If not, we always have the reunion baby and we definitely have receipts. I'm a party planner. If it didn't happen in writing, it never happened. And I got the receipts. You're scrolling to the bottom of all the pages. She should do. She should too.

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olive branched to the world at the beginning of the season. Did you feel, obviously, you had some stuff already that you were going through personally, but in terms of the group, did you feel like with most of the group you were going to have a good ride this season? Of course. In my mind, I was like,

listen, not only do I need to let them know, like, you guys need to get checked because a lot of the girls in the group hadn't, or haven't. And so I was kind of like, this is great for,

it's to be this woman moment where I feel vulnerable enough and safe enough that I will release this information to them about my journey in the right setting, right timing, because timing is every,

And it would bring us closer together and make things, the petty things fly to the wayside and make bigger things matter more. So that was my intending. Like, I wanted to tell him in a place of like safe zone. And I didn't get to do it, darn it. Didn't get to do it. TMC Larsa came to the rescue. Honey. Yes, my friend.

Did you feel like aside from, aside from the obvious, do you feel like you kind of had that sisterhood this season that you have been a part of in the past and have kind of, you know, other people have relied on it. Did you feel like you kind of got that in return this year? We're growing so well as a group and individual settings too. Like, you know, I had lunch with, you know, Alexia by myself. I went on a cruise and took Adriana. I was on the same cruise, but then two days later, she, Adriana left the cruise, Julia Hopson.

So there's Julia Me time. Nicole and our best friends. Like, it's just kind of like I'm getting to know each of the girls not by one get one free, like, you know, Alexia and Marisol together as a group. Now I'm like separating the two, making sure I understand who she is, Alexia, and who she is Marysaw individually, because then I can actually get to understand their perspective better. So individual one-on-ones for me is important, and I'm doing that actively because I need to know more about, you know, people that I'm around, especially when I feel unsafe with my

diagnosis and with the way I was feeling. So this was a great season for me bonding with the girls. It was really, honestly, truly, for most of the girls. Yeah, with Alexia, I know last season you guys had some ups and downs and stuff, and it does feel like maybe that's one area where you guys have been able to sort of come to an understanding and it's a little smoother sailing. We always loved each other. It's just a matter that we just happened to be planning a party together and things didn't

happen the way they were supposed to. And then our friendship got in the way because I didn't feel appreciated in the sense. And that just felt also insulted with what she said about my brother and the event that I was throwing, so forth. So, I mean, it's all in the past, to be honest, and that's what I love about it, is that now everyone gets to be who they are. And I think last season, I kind of snapped and said, hey, no one puts Gertie in the corner. You guys are going to let me speak. So now I definitely am a big part of the group, for sure.

I'm heard. Yeah. When you were talking about kind of getting to know each person on an individual basis without kind of those little groupings that we have within the group, because it's a big group. Yeah. A lot of people, everybody has their own relationships. I've been thinking about that with Adriana this season and how Marisol and Alexia kind of are shifting a little bit. It feels like Alexia at least has the idea of being open to something. Whereas Marisol, it's like the door is closed.

So here's my perspective. Alexia had to be, to me, the biggest beef to have with Adriana because she got triggered with the word Frankie when we're back in the Bahamas. If Alex is able to forgive and see through that and pass that, I definitely think that Marisle is. also needs to give her beef another slicing because it was okay she said your boyfriend never loved you he said he called me whatever it is but you're not with the boyfriend you're married and happy

like let's move on let's move on nothing to see her people you know yeah I feel like Adriana obviously like the with Alexia I understood where the anger was coming from but it's like sometimes Adriana just says stuff she's a little engine that could you know Adriana is so special and that's my girl I love

her but she does say some things before thinking. But it's all about forgiveness, right? She really means it. She says, I'm sorry. Don't kick her where she's down. That's, that's all I was about. You know, I'm like, let's just give her a chance.

And she comes from a lot of trauma. Things happen to her. And you saw last episode where she had this crazy, Kenamine experience. That is insane and sad. I talked about, I couldn't believe when I was watching that. I was expecting it. It's like, oh, like, ha-ha, Adriana's going to go do her, you know.

Pick a fly. drug thing. Yeah. Actually, no, it was like, all of a sudden. Yeah, it was, it was so impactful. And I think that's kind of,

I love the, the sort of like, imagery back and forth. And like housewives, great housewives episodes have that where it's like, you can be laughing with someone and think that they're goofy. And then all of a sudden, there's a deeper,

things get real. And you realize that, like, as a viewer, it's like, oh, I've been on this journey with you too. And that's the show. Like, Our show is not about like, let's make up that this guy was touching my booty.

And, you know, we're going to make a whole season out of that, like a whole allegation stuff. Our seasons are about real life. And in one episode, you're going to cry, laugh, get angry and all the above. But isn't that life? Yeah. We live our days, not all happy all day from, you know, midnight to midnight. We literally are like sad.

And then somebody makes us happy. And then we cry because we think about something. And it's like this full circle moment all the time every day. So that's our show. And I think the fans are really speaking out loud to be like, hey, we're happy. you back in Bravo because you guys are that you know the queens you know in our own way you know on that same episode i i sort of felt that with kiki too because obviously kiki we haven't necessarily gotten to see as much of her in the last couple seasons and when she was kind of opening up about

how she felt like she and larsa had this close friendship and then something shifted yeah and now she's kind of not not getting that connection anymore i think that is so relatable so relatable everybody has been in a friendship or a relationship where they feel like something shifts and you're not getting what you need. Yeah, exactly. And it's nobody's fault. Larsa's happy with Marcus is fine. But I mean, saying, for example, you know what, I'm happy with my boyfriend and you go find

yourself a boyfriend because we're not, I'm not in the mood to play in the play or with you anymore. Like that, you know, you're going to have that test. Is the friend going to be like, hey, come with us. We'll double, you know, well, you'll be the third wheel or let me make time for you once every month or whatever it is. You compromise. Or are you going to have the friend as like.

I don't need you anymore for now. Stand by and I'll be back when I'm able to. You know, so that tests Kiki's, you know, feelings as far as like, is this a real, real friend? Or is she just using me to, you know, just as past time, for example. Yeah. And I mean, like we've talked about it, it's like you never, you never know when it's going to be the time that you really need everyone there around you. And, you know.

So do unto others as you want on to you. That's how I live it. Like, you know, if I wouldn't like it. If somebody did that, then don't do it to me. That's how we roll. So with me, it's kind of like, how can you do something that you just did to me and say, you know, spread the news to strangers that I don't know. Like the first two people that Larson says it to are two of her best friends that I have no idea who they are. So would she have liked it if I said, hey, you know, spread a rumor about her.

She would flip out. Okay. So it's just let's think about that. Do unto others. It's all I'm saying. Well, and I could sense that when we saw you were at Lisa, when Lisa was kind of like. Probing me. I'm trying to let you know that I know something and I don't want it.

It puts everybody in a really verbal gymnastics. Tough situation. Obviously, you're going through something that's like up here and then everybody else is kind of like in the middle trying to figure out. Now, can you, can I make a note? I want the, I want the listeners to listen to this. The fact that she says my news to all the girls at her, you know, welcome party for a five-day, you know, departure. from Marcus, right? So the party.

She says it and then she tells them, oh, and don't tell her that you know. So she's asking them to keep her secret when she couldn't even keep mine. So that's a two-layered issue here. Secondly, I go to this basketball game, getting medical clearance to be able to play because I had my biopsies,

you know, I was going through that whole thing. And then I'm like, I'm going to put face, happy face, don't say anything. This is about the charity, not about me. How am I going to sit there in the bus? Hey, guys, I have cancer. Let's play ball. So I'm being the champion of like,

let me reel in the emotions and be there for her for this, even though she did me wrong already. But I don't even know this. I'm watching it like the viewers. I don't know that she already had told them. I'm at the basketball game, playing the game, and everyone's looking at me like, damn, that's messed up what's happening to her.

And I'm like, hey, guys, here's a ball. Do you know how fucked up that is? Right. Do you know how fucked up that is? That's when I found out after at the opera party. Yeah. So that's kind of like, damn. All of them knew already.

And no one said anything. Because we're keeping her secret and loyal to her secret. But she wasn't able to be loyal to my secret. It wasn't even a secret. It was a timing thing. I wasn't ready. I had just found out the week before. Right.

I mean, we're five episodes into this season. Like, it's not that much time has passed. Like, you're figuring it out on your own, too. I thought, okay, I want to read you something. Tell me. Tell me. So there was an event. couple weeks ago, maybe last week, where Larsa was there.

Okay. Uh-huh. Which one? Which party? The one I was disinvited to? The, I think it was direct TV. Kathy. Oh, yes.

That one I attended. I was on the list that time, but there was a pre-party before the Kathy Hilton's party, a little drink party before the, the, the, the Kathy Hilton's party. And I was invited to that. And then I guess Larsa was in attendance, and I was asked not to attend it because she was there. So I got disinvited because of Larsa. Hmm.

Yeah. I think if we did like, works in La La Land over there, Hollywood. If we did like a group poll of everyone listening right now of like who who should have got the invite, I think you would have got the invite. Yeah.

Well, this Beverly Hills housewife decided to pick Larsa, I guess. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, so Larsa said that she is a cheerleader for her friends and that she didn't intend to gossip. And she says,

I feel like my friends that know me, know that I have a great heart and my intentions were only to show her love. I apologize for telling her friends that she was sick. I really was trying to rally the girls around her because she was really erratic for weeks before the show. It was coming from a place of concern. If she doesn't see it for that, it's cool because we're not friends. It is what it is.

And it ain't what it ain't. Yeah. She believes it. Amazing. I think that Larsa needs to try to put on a few. other hats before she, because I think she likes the hat that she's wearing, which is that, I'm the good friend, I'm the best. And the cheerleader, she's, you know, in her land of beliefs, called Delusion Land. And I'm in mine. And I think that it's unanimous that there

needs to be a direct apology without the butt, without the end, without the, because that's where it is. And there's never been that. It's been a combative thing about me reaching out and pulling the apology from her gut. So that can't, we can't move forward. And because she's not my friend anyway, why are we still talking about this? You just want to enjoy the opera. Yes, exactly. But I'm quick to put someone in their place when needed to be corrected. So you will see on the next episode that I must address the elephant in the room.

Yeah. Okay. Well, I think, yeah, it's like certain things kind of go above the level of just being like a little like, you know, Housewives argument. It's like, no, we got to handle this. And you know, I think that people have to. have mistaken my kindness for weakness. And I never wanted to bring this side of Gertie out in the side that literally will put you in your place in three seconds.

But, you know, sometimes when especially this matters, this matters. And I have to do what I did. And I regret nothing. And it is what it is. So you know what? We're not friends. I definitely, I'm not in a position to talk to her at all. We don't speak to date.

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Hasbro is not a sponsor of this promotion. I want to talk about Lisa's journey a little bit because obviously last season that was kind of the big that was like the biggest thing that was going on of Miami was everything that was happening with her and her and Lenny and I mean still this season

it's like every day there's a new article every day there's something else you were a really strong proponent last season of Lisa Lane of what did I get taking into a whole other spin of like Gertie doesn't know what she's talking about what are we doing now Lisa

leave the house what are we doing now Oh my God, it's just about you and the kids. Everything I said then sticks. And when you saw the article about her, I don't know, it wasn't even an article. It was a post on Instagram about some physical matters. The reason why I was reacting the way I was in the Bahamas was because of things that I saw. And I was kind of like, wow. And it got me into a place where this is not acceptable.

And the reason why you see me snapping, say, stay in, this is all about you. Don't even worry about him, you and your kids. And now it's revealed that. that she's claiming that there has been some more than just verbal abuse in that relationship. And I saw that then, but I said nothing about it. Obviously, it's not my business. But now everything makes sense as far as my reaction being so like, leave it.

You and your kids. Get out. That's the reason why. Yeah. It's been, it's tough. I mean, obviously, like, whatever's happening on social media aside, just on the show, there's so many moments where it's clear that she's, you know, on the way to do something that's going to be really tough or on a phone call that's going to be really tough.

tough and watching like the scene with her kids like eating the pizza and stuff it's just like god it's so she it's a tough journey it's a tough time also like in those kids oh yeah the ages it's just as I know it's so yeah and you're gonna see on this season you know there's a trip to west Palm Beach and you'll see things evolve and we're we're we're questioning Lisa we're putting her now you know on on stand and asking her questions because our end goes for her to be happy and for her to move on from Lenny. And so it's hard. There's a lot of questions that we ask that she may not like.

And then it becomes a little combative amongst the group. But we're because we love her and we really are friends that we're trying to say, hey, you need to hear this. And, you know, so it gets a little dramatic. Yeah, I think it's tough when you're when you're with somebody like in that first moment. Like when in the trip to the Keys last year was kind of when everything was breaking out. And then you're kind of there for the whole. trajectory. Sure. It's tough because it's only human to have thoughts and opinions about how stuff

is happening, but not everybody interprets things the same way. So like, you know, with her, her new relationship that she's in and stuff that's happening on social media, it's like, it's just, there's so many like choices that she has to make every day. And I, I mean, I certainly don't envy her being in that position. Right. Yeah. And we, and we question it, we question her choices. We question her lack of choices and just because we want to get to a movement. We want to, you know, get to a better place for her with her. And it just triggers her sometimes. You know, it's, I think.

So you'll see, you'll see all that play out on the next episode coming up. It's a lot when we ride up to Palm Beach. Zooming out a little bit. I'm curious, this is the third season that you all have had the exact same cast. Yes. Six housewives, three friends. Everybody really pitching in. I think.

But our friends work harder than any. Yes. I mean, to be. honest, we have a very good cast and our friends are friend-like housewives, you know, because they're intense, they're amazing. So it's pretty uncommon for a show to have so, so much consistency in the cast. Do you think there's like one sort of special sauce or like one special ingredient that makes the cast really just so consistently strong? I really think that our perspectives are so different in the way we interpret things and it's a cultural-based

difference that I think that makes our show different from others because, you know, you know, some other places that all live in the same area, they all, you know, grew up maybe similarly and they all have the same maybe type of point of views or exposure to the same. So ours is like so different. You have Brazilian, Cuban, French, Haitian, and he's like in Russian. So when you see, for example, I'm going to give you an example, Julia and Lisa having this debate about being a mother is what I'll say. And Julia thinks she's right

Lisa thinks is right And it's literally a cultural Complete difference But it creates a 10 Probably is going to be such a big scene And we're just kind of like Okay, she doesn't mean that No, she doesn't mean that

But they try in their mind I'm not hurting her feelings This is what I think And so that's a perfect example On how cultural differences In our group makes us Have these bigger dialogues And that's a difference

Between us I think And a lot of maybe other groups of friends I think that's so spot on I mean I think Miami me is so, so unique. Yeah. Of all, I mean, not just Housewives shows, not just Bravo, but like every show that you see on, on, you know, scripted, unscripted, it's like the, the real, like, mix of backgrounds and

perspectives and heritage and all of that. It just is. Yes. And it makes it so much colorful to watch. I mean, we live amongst the rainbows of colors, literally. I mean, South Beach is like the mecca for, you know, the gay, you know, the gay society. And so, and there are friends. and we're so different and we're accepting of a lot of different things.

And it's beautiful. It's beautiful because there's no judgment in Miami, I think. And that's where you've seen just this different side of life that maybe in some other places, you know, it's just kind of like more toned down and more low-key. So it's more subdued. Ars is like, ah! And you don't even have to say anything to feel it. And that's the energy that Miami has.

It's incredible. When you think about in future seasons, obviously, you know, everything changes eventually. if there's new people on the cast, if people decide to leave. Is there anyone in your sphere that you can think of that you're like dying to bring on the show? Is that something that you think about? I mean, listen,

I have a whole other life aside from the group that I live with my other friends who are big philanthropists that run Miami, like the philanthropy town. So I'm always out and about, I'm always at a charity, Van Gala, Table 1, Gertie and her friends and it's a whole other grade. So the thing is that a lot of them are like,

I don't want to be a housewife, but can they be a friend of where it's more like, so maybe next year you'll see something's popping in and out. We never know, but I can show you way more of my life than it's being shown right now on TV. I got lots of amazing other things happening. Look, it's way better when it's that way versus the other way around where it's like, oh, like, I guess, I don't know, we can do the same thing again. Yeah, exactly.

Okay, where were we? I hated you. Yeah. You know, so it's, yeah. I'm curious, something that we always think about is like, obviously you have, have a whole life and career and family and everything before you ever came on reality TV. How do you feel, if at all, like being on Bravo and being on the show has changed you? It's changed my ability to be more transparent and also not giving a fudge.

You know, like before, if you see me season one, it's such a more like protective gertie of my brand and like, oh my guy, what are my clients going to say? So I'm very low key. and now it is what it is. You know my work. I don't have to speak before my work. I could curse a bitch out in three seconds and still do an amazing party for you, professionally done. One has nothing to do with another. It's called personal life.

It's called, you know, professional life. And so now I think that people understand that, and they don't judge you by the last episode when you were crying hysterically or whatever it is. So I'm now understanding that and I actually love it because people can relate. People can relate. So will a client say, hey, Gertie, I want to hire you. You know my mother had cancer. you're a survivor. I love that. Plus, you do amazing parties. That could be a layer of another layer of selling point. So, you know, at this point in time, is take it or leave it. Take the bottle of

wine or don't even drink a glass. Okay. I love that. We, so we have more to look forward to this season, obviously. How are you going into the rest of the season watching the episodes? Obviously, there's stuff that you haven't seen. At this point, I'm scared to see what else haven't seen because you'll see it only gets, quote unquote, better. No, no, and I'm serious. I thought, okay, this is it. We could move on. And then he's like, whoa, I'm a forgiving person until I can't forgive no more.

Okay, so I'm just letting you know that it's going to be like this, a wave, big Miami waves coming and crashing, coming and crashing until the end and taking us to the reunion. And we'll be there every step of the way. And one keyword, not one word, well, two words. Mexico City. If you love the first five, six episodes, my friend, Mexico City is a whole other, it's the ultimate goal trip within the episode. Mark my words.

Okay. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah. I will mark those words. I can't wait to see it. And, Gertie, it's always such a pleasure to have you here. You're the best, baby.

did it. Always. Thank you. Thank you everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches and watch Real Hustlers in Miami. Wednesday nights on Bravo, baby. 9 p.m. Until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca Sousmaqat.

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