Mention It All - Love Bubble PTSD Support Group (RHONJ)

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

Jordana and Dylan are back for another week of RHONJ, and they’re feeling some deja vu over another love bubble-themed event. But first, they unpack all the cast drama, starting with Teresa and Joe���s questionable peace talk. They also go long on Jennifer Aydin, from her refreshingly messy marriage convo to her just-plain-messy friendship tactics. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I have here with me today, as always on Wednesday's Jordana Abraham.

Hey, Jordana. How's it going? Hey, Dylan. So good to be back. Another week, another episode. Another week, another episode. Another, uh, I, I was having a moment of deja vu last night as I was watching this episode because you were,

you were here with me last season to talk about Jersey most weeks. And I just had like a like, that's so raven, like through the eyeball moment of like, we're still talking about the love bubble. Yes. Theresa's really holding in on it. I have like a vivid memory of literally 12 months ago, you and I having basically an exact conversation. And that's like, so we're really still getting mileage out of this love bubble thing, huh? I know.

It seems like that's kind of like how I'm feeling about honestly, like a lot of Jersey these days. It's like there's a lot of reliance on these old issues. And I feel like we're starting to feel. I feel like even the cast members like Melissa showing up to this party could not have felt more like, I guess I'm, I guess this old shit again. Melissa's showing up with her like high bun on her head looking business professional. Like she's attending a conference, which she looked great. She looked great.

But it was very like everybody else is wearing like a flowy maxi dress. And Melissa's like, I have business to attend to. Yes. It was very much like I'm a professional. I'm here to do my job. But like I do not want to be here at all. Which I mean. Being a housewife, sometimes you just have to, you have to show up. You have to do the job. And I would rather, I would rather that be the attitude than like, I don't want to go. I'm not going. Like some people. See you next week. Look. I mean, everybody's, you got to do what's right for you. Not everybody needs to go to every event. But we start this episode after Guys Night with this, like, bizarre montage of all the women filming their husbands just.

on their iPhones as they get home. And it's funny because this is the kind of thing where structurally we don't need this in the episode, but it is so entertaining to see John Fuda be like, I had like 17, 19 shots. Can't keep up. Initiation. I do want to know, like, did a producer text to the whole cast and be like, hey, girls, tonight. I feel like they would have had to. When the guys get home, get out your iPhones.

Or like, did the women come up with it? Like somebody came up with this idea. And I'm glad it made it into the final edit because moments like this, I think are uniquely Jersey in the sense that like on Beverly Hills or on, you know, really any other franchise. I'm like, I don't care what happens when the husbands get home from guys night. I barely want to see guys night. Oh, no. Yeah. The husbands are like, to me, like the thing that makes the whole show, it makes Jersey.

like it gives it its edge. Like there's no other show where the husbands are, friends have their own special drama. And really like lean into it. I think there's no other show where it's like a family affair more than Jersey, which kind of makes sense because they're all about family. Totally. And so, you know, coming off of this guy's night,

of course we got the drama between Louis and Joe Gorga starting to bubble back up again. And so we get sort of dueling scenes. of the husbands filling in their wives on what happened at Guy's night. And, well, I guess Teresa and Louis aren't married yet, but he's her husband. Basically. So, Louis, this was a funny little moment that I picked up on. So Louis tells Teresa that he brought up what Joe said on social media. So he says, I brought up what Joe said.

And Teresa's response is like, I'm so sorry that you have. have to deal with that because my family sucks basically. And in that moment, like, okay, the situation is complicated. I'm not saying that Teresa and Louis don't have any reason to be upset, but I'm like, Louis, Louis brought it up. Yeah. I mean, and that's another interesting thing you see on this, I think, between the, the relationship between Teresa and Louis, which we've seen before in her relationship with

Joe, is when she is in on her man. like he can do no wrong also. And it's kind of just like, I feel like she really worships like whoever she's with. Like she's fully in until she's not in. Mm-hmm. I also thought it was strange. Going back to the situation,

because really the route last week was Melissa's mom and sisters not being invited to Teresa and Louis's wedding. And Teresa compares that choice to Louis's family not being invited to Antonia. Sweet 16, which I got a lot of blowback last week on Instagram. People had a lot of thoughts about this Melissa's family not being invited thing. The thing that a lot of Teresa fans were saying was, it's Teresa's wedding. She can invite whoever she wants.

Nobody else gets to tell her who she should and shouldn't invite, which I don't fully disagree with. But I think the thing that to me stuck out as odd was, was the way that it was, you know, being looked at like there was no acknowledgement of the fact that you've been in each other's lives for this long. You have X, Y, Z experiences together. And, you know, regardless of how things are right now, they've been in each other's lives a long time. Whereas Louis's family has not been in Melissa and Joe's life for 20 years. And also, a Sweet 16 is not the same as a wedding.

Yes. And also it seems like they've gotten like less close as it seems to be the theme since Louis was in the picture. And so like you would imagine they're even, they barely know Louis family if they haven't been closer at this time. Whereas with the Gorgas, it kind of ebbs and flows. And there were times of a much bigger closest. And I agree to an extent like I do think you can invite whoever you want. It is, Shriza is a grown woman who's paying for her own wedding, I think. And I do. I do. think I do think she has a right to invite or not invite whoever she wants. However, just like everything else that you do in a wedding, it's a statement. You know what I mean? Like it's not like, oh, she like massively messed up. It's more like she's making a statement. Just like when you pick your bridesmaids and you don't include your sister-in-law, but you include your other ones. It's all like statements. They're things she's allowed to do. But they're like, obviously like I think some people will take them for what they are, which is statements of where you stand in someone's life. Nothing like a wedding when I hosted Betches Brides. This came up all the time.

There's nothing like a wedding that makes you like evaluate who's in your life and who you want around you on this day and who you want like up there close to you. So I think that these are all, it would be, it would be crazy to say that this was all a meaningless thing. But yes, of course, she has a right to invite whoever she wants. Right. And then there's this whole dynamic of the back and forth over who wants peace. Who wants peace? Who. Who values peace more? Who's willing to do what to achieve peace? Or whether that's even really the goal here.

We get the conversation that we saw in the preview where Teresa calls Joe ostensibly to invite him to the love bubble house warming party. But not really. Yeah. That phone call seemed weirdly aimless to me because she's like, hey, what's going on? Yeah. Good. Okay. Are you not even like, well, I'd like you to come. It's more like, so are you coming? Right. That was what, to me, that phone call, what was really missing was the, the kind of outreach part of it. That it's like, if you're calling this person that you're having issues with, there needs to be an action item. Like there has to be like a, there has to be a purpose for the phone call. And, you know, it's nice that they both say, I love you. when they're hanging up the phone. You know, it's good, I guess, that they're not screaming at each other.

But when she just says, are you coming? And he's like, I don't know. That, it feels like a missed opportunity because she says I want to make peace. If she really, you know, whatever. I'm not going to harp on Teresa inviting who to what. But like, you said, I thought the point of the phone call was to invite him. Just I agree with you. Besides the, I love you at the end, there really wasn't anything that was like,

If the call was truly to make peace, like you've got to let your guard down a little bit. And I don't really feel like either of them were like letting their guard down in this call or expressing any vulnerability. Like it wasn't like she called him and she was like, hey, like, I know things have been weird. I want to like own my part in that. Here's what, here's what's been done that makes it that upsets me. I want to move forward. I wanted like, that wasn't the conversation.

It was like, what are you doing? Are you going to come? Okay. Love you. Like that's not. Really? And then, you know, that's being carried forward by later in the episode. Joe is like, I really just don't want to go. You know, I don't, I don't feel like going. I don't feel like they really want me there. And, you know, maybe he should have sucked it up and went. But then also if, you know, if Teresa's upset that he's not there, maybe she should have said, I want you there. Right. I mean, at this point, it kind of feels like, I don't even remember what they're fighting about. Like, what is the actual? Well, like, because it. The fight is that, is the fight that they didn't stand up for Louie enough? Is that like what's really that this fight?

Well, I think that I think the whole real center of the issue here from like a viewer's perspective is that there isn't really any central issue of this argument. I think it feels like we have, we're so far removed at this point from any sort of inciting incident or, you know, breaking point that. it really does feel like if there was any real genuine desire and urge inside of these people to fix things and move forward, they would have done it by now. And we've seen them try. We've seen them kind of have these fits and starts.

But I do think it does feel like we're reaching this point in the journey where it is becoming clear and has honestly been clear for a little while that we're. we're not getting anywhere. And so I think there is kind of a feeling that maybe this season and the wedding and not attending the wedding and they've been, you know, trashing each other back and forth in the press, you know, since then, basically, like, something's got to give. Yeah. And I agree to an extent that it's sad.

Like there's a part, like, especially when you see Melissa talking to, like, her nieces, it's kind of like she could tell that they hate her. And like I could like the viewer could tell that they kind of hate her too. And there's just like and it's sad because like I guess of the kids and of because they are technically family and the idea of being like estranged from your family is like sad. But we also like you said kind of have to remember these people were like we're not really getting rid of something that was ever really that strong. Like they've never really like I can't really think of like moments from. This 10 plus year show where these two people seem like they really liked each other. Like, there's very few and far between.

There's a lot more bad moments than there are good moments. So to me, it's like, it's sad on like just like a face value level. But if you actually look at the relationship, like it was never that strong to begin with. Right. There have definitely been periods of peace, but there have not really been periods of genuine warmth and love and affection. Not at all. So good.

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It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. We'll talk more about the love bubble house warming in a little bit. I want to talk about Dolores' every evolving family journey. And this week, Frankie Jr. and her mom, Valerie, are the chosen ones to sit down and have a chat. And, you know, we're still talking about Frank and Pauly and, you know, how they're doing with each other. And Dolores, I think, really has the right idea here that she doesn't have an expectation that Frank and Pauly are going to be great friends, but that they should be able to get along for her. Yeah.

And I mean, to an extent, I feel like that's sort of like all there is to say about that. Yeah. And I feel like Dolores, maybe like this is a little bit of a reach for a storyline for her because that seems to be her personal storyline is like she has a new guy. Is he getting along with her ex-husband? And it's kind of an interesting angle. But like I feel like they've kind of, by episode two, they've already said all they need to say about this unless something else dramatic happens with this. I don't disagree.

I love seeing Valour. I think she's a sweet lady. It's nice to have a moment with her. I always love seeing Frankie. But it is the kind of thing where it's like, okay, yeah, we get it. You're right. Good, good, good for you.

I like, I do, I like the journey that Dolores is on after so many years of putting her kids first, putting her family first, her relationship with Frank, even though it wasn't a romantic relationship for a long time. I like that she's finally, choosing herself, doing what she wants, doing what she needs for herself first and foremost. I think that's, you know, an empowering vibe to get from Dolores.

But I agree that it's in terms of actual story, I think we've now, we've hatched it out enough times. Let me know when something else happens. Right. Yeah. And I mean, I agree. I couldn't be happier for Dolores to me. she's like the most grounded of the housewives who seems to actually be like a voice of reason. And so I'm happy for her. I don't know if that makes for a great storyline, but on a personal note, I am happy that she seems like she's doing well.

Seems like she found someone who really loves her and isn't like kind of withholding from her, which seems like sort of a past pattern for her relationships. Like this person really wants to be there for her. So I like that for her. Jen and Bill. What do we think about this dinner? Oh, wow. I mean, I appreciate them bringing the realness to the show.

Like, they're not, it's not at all. It doesn't feel like lost over. Like, this does feel like a real issue that a couple would have in their marriage. And so I, I mean, as much as I find Jen to be totally irrational and crazy and wrong most of the time, I do think she's, she is really good at like, she is who she is. And you're seeing that on the screen with her and Bill. And she has a point. But I also, I mean, we talked about this last time.

She has a point. I could see why you don't want your husband always playing devil's advocate. But also like that's sort of the beauty of Bill. That's why he's likable. Right. I think also there is an element of last season when all of the affair stuff was coming out. It was very raw. It was very fresh that it.

was being discussed and I know the kids found out about it, which was not something that she was wanting to happen. But in terms of the actual timeline of this relationship, this affair was years ago, like a decade ago. Yeah. So I do think there is a little bit of a question for me how much mileage Jen can really expect to get from Bill out of, well, you did this thing to our family. So I basically get to respond however I want in perpetuity. And like I that I have not been in that situation. I don't begrudge Jennifer having complicated feelings about it, being heard about it on her own timeline. But when she's basically saying like, Bill, I need you to gas me up from now until forever because remember that time. It's like I think that maybe is not the

healthiest way to move forward if you've decided that you are moving forward. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, I think that's an amazing, that's a perfect assessment of what's going on. Um, if you're going to forgive someone and make it work, you can't punish them every single day for it. Um, or the, I mean, you can still work on it in therapy and stuff, but I agree. She's kind of like playing this hand as like, I can do whatever I want. I can get my son the prom limo. I can, you know, I, because like, you did this to them. It's not really like the kind of united. parental front front you want to be showing to your kids regardless of who did what and i agree she would have every right to be like i'm leaving nephew or like i can't get over this which would be a

totally normal thing but she wants kind of both she wants to like stay and continue to hold it over his head which i don't think is going to be great for them long term and i think it would be better for her if she just admitted that she hasn't fully forgiven him they can go to therapy and she can work on, they can work on doing that together. And that would be like a more real resolution instead of whatever is going on here. Right. And to be able to have a mutual understanding that she is allowed to feel how she feels about what he has done, but also that doesn't mean that she has no issues of her own to work through. Right. I agree. Because it's a little rough. I do, I agree with you though. I like that. I feel like we're seeing a really real conversation between

them because they could easily just act like everything is great. Yeah. And as most couples do in every in all of these shows. So I think it's, I appreciate that she's willing to like bear it all now. I feel like now that the cat is out of the bag about this cheating stuff, she feels like a lot more comfortable really getting. Because even before that, do you remember like before it was out about the cheating? He was like getting her that like massive ring as like an anniversary gift.

And they were kind of trying to pretend like they had this perfect marriage. And then I think that like once that came out, she's like, all right, forget it. Like I'm just going to like say what's what. Right. It's like there's a certain point where you have to realize that you're not going to get as much mileage. And you're going to look like sort of a clown pretending that everything is perfect versus having an opportunity to really dig deep and maybe even get people to be more on your side long term. If you're really showing this emotional journey. Yeah, for sure.

But Jen, you know, her personal life is one thing. In terms of the social life, she is, you know, working those phones, getting a little messy. Because Jennifer Fessler, Jen Fessler and Rachel, two of our new ladies, they go to lunch and they mutually realize that Jennifer Aiden has called both of them for one reason or another and then ended up talking shit about. somebody that they are friends with. Yeah. So first of all, she calls Jen Fessler to ask for advice about a marriage counselor because this is something Jen has been open about. Jen Fessler has been open about.

And then this somehow segues into talking shit about Margaret, who is Jen Fessler's closest friend on the show as far as we know. Right. And then there's, yeah, then there's another situation where she made a comment about, uh, Rachel's nose job at the mozzarella party. And then, uh, Jen calls Rachel and they're talking about this. And then she segues into talking shit about Dolores. It's like, Jennifer Aiden, you got to, you got to reel it in a little bit.

She's really trying to earn her Bravo salary. She's like, I'm on the job. I'm a professional. I'm going to make, you know, I'm going to stir stuff up. One thing about Jen, she doesn't have a quiet season. She's never just like observing. She's getting right in there. Yeah.

And I think it's, it's no coincidence that all three of the new women on the show this season, Jen Aiden has very clearly put out feelers and tried to get her hooks into all of them. Yeah. Within the first couple weeks of filming. And it feels like she's kind of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what. sticks. And clearly, as we have, as the season develops and watching them, you know, do press and things now, the shit stuck with Danielle Cabral more than it stuck with Rachel and Jen Fessler. But it does feel like a pretty messy strategy to go through all of this kind of shit throwing just to

get one of the three people on your team. Yeah. And I mean, it's also like seems to be like solidifying her role as like villain status where it's like, I feel like Teresa used to. to do a lot of this stuff. Like you saw that with the Jackie thing where she just came in hot with the like cheating rumors. And I feel like Jen has really taken a lot of the load off of Teresa having to do that by like, she's like, she seems like she's like doing all the dirty work. Right.

I picture them, I picture there being a conversation off the air of Teresa basically telling Jen like, oh yeah, okay, we got three newbies. Okay. You figure out which one is good and then bring her in. to our side. She's like, let me know which one we like. Until then I'll stay in my love bubble.

Pretty much. Like, Teresa can sort of manipulate from a, I think that's something she's probably learned the longer she's been on housewives, like how to manipulate from like far away it's supposed to getting your hands dirty. And Jen seems very willing and able to take that roll off of her hands. Yeah. And later at the party, I think Teresa says that Jen, Aiden is not one to take sides, which Okay.

First of all, just feels patently false. But also I'm like, if she's not taking sides, I guess maybe, but only because she's an equal opportunity shit talker. Right. Just because she just doesn't know what will stick. So there's no reason to take a side yet. Right. Like just, okay. So she's talking shit about Dolores and Margaret and Jackie and Melissa.

It's like, okay, that's you're taking the side of just being rude to everyone. Right. Being whoever, wherever will take it. The terrible nose job line was so funny. and so mean, it was very entertaining to watch. I really liked, before the season even started, I had met Rachel at an event in December. And so we followed each other on Instagram. And she was doing like a Q&A after the show had been announced, but before it had aired.

And somebody asked about her nose. And she straight up said, she's like, look, I always talk about this stuff. I have no problem talking about it. I don't like my nose. But I'm not doing, I'm not getting it done again. So it is what it is. this is my nose. Yeah.

Okay. And like I think that is the exact right attitude. But it is hilarious that Jennifer as somebody who is coming off of a fraught nose job storyline last season herself. It's like, girl, it's a one. It's a one. You don't have a leg to stand on. You would think she would have a little empathy too instead of being like, well, I had a terrible nose job. So I called her to talk about her terrible nose job.

It's like she never said her nose job was terrible. You're saying that. It's like, that's only okay when I say it. Exactly. You got to establish that rapport before you're like, oh, right, we both hate our fucking noses. Right. She's like, wait, what?

Okay. So then Margaret and Dolores, they get together. They call Melissa. They talk about her family not getting invited to the wedding. You know, this is all, it's all just leading up to the love bubble housewarming. And of course, like we said before, Joe decides not to go. Melissa attends. everybody else is there.

This is, you know, the first time that everybody is really together because Jackie was not at that mozzarella party. So the first time since the premiere, I guess that everyone's there. It's, you know, it's a, it's a cute little party. We got a lady in the bubble in the pool, which is not my taste, but. Yeah. Very on the nose. Beautiful house.

I like, I think it's almost, it seems crazy to me that this is like the most seem. blending of of households I've ever seen like is there no drama or no issue at all with merging to families that have never lived with another family together like that both have like teenage kids too. It's not like, oh, the kids are too little to notice or to care. I agree. It's it's really heartwarming. And Melania, Melania makes like TikTok sometimes with Louis' kids in them. Like, it does seem like everybody kind of just hangs out. Yeah, and really likes each other. I'm like, what is going on? I've never seen something like that before. Well, I feel like you're tiptoeing around a key word that is controversial here, which is

chosen family. Oh, yes. Teresa makes her little speech at the party, and she thanks everyone for coming. She says, we wouldn't want anyone else here. This is our chosen family. everybody has thoughts about chosen family. I understand where Teresa's coming from, but given Joe's absence and the, the drama surrounding that relationship, it is, it's a choice. Yeah. I mean, it is a choice. I also know Teresa kind of just says things and doesn't necessarily fully think them

through, but maybe it was pointed, but she did invite him. So I think it would have been ruder to say if she didn't invite him, but she did invite him. even and to me I wasn't that worked up about um about her saying that to me it was more like less having to do with joe and Melissa and more like okay we're blending our families we're choosing to be together we're not biologically related um but we're really happy to be here celebrating like these two families merging into one which is the what the housewarming is so I don't think everything has to be like about Melissa and Joe like I thought it was kind of nice if taken in that context.

I kind of agree with you. I think it got a little overblown. I do understand, you know, for the people within the cast, it clearly they're thinking about all of this stuff of like, Joe is not here. She said this. This must mean this. But I think when you're looking at it at the larger context of this is a party with what, 50 people there in the backyard. Right. And Teresa is speaking to all of them.

not just to the camera. Like, yeah, like, this is, this is all the people that we like in our life. And I think that you can read it either way. And this is an instance where I'm more inclined to give Teresa the charitable take that it's like, yeah, she just said something nice. Like. Right. I agree. I don't think it was a dig.

I think it's a little reaching to say it was. And I mean, even if it, well, even if they're underlying tones, it's because there's truth in the fact. that like that's what's happening like that's what's happening considering that there is a version of this event where teresa could have got up there and been like so everybody else everybody in the world that we want here is here and not my uh not my asshole brother like like she could have said that yeah she i wouldn't put it past her she said like if you look at like the stuff she said about margaret like she's not one to be like if she wants to if she wants to insult you she'll be direct about it she won't be like exactly

That, you know what I mean? Like, she's never one to shy away from that. Exactly. Whatever you, however you feel about Teresa, good or bad, she usually is kind of an open book with her feelings. Agree. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds.

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I would have said it again. Two weeks in a row. Wow. Danielle, I appreciate Danielle's energy where she seems very just like, okay, yeah, bring her over. Let me take her. I got, like, what's going on? Yes.

The hands, the hands. She is like, she's not at all playing like the subtle, you know, sneaky game. She's very much like, let me get my like nails ready to scratch her face off. And I think, I think to Jackie's credit, I think she owns it. And she is, you know, kind of like, yeah, I think she's a terrible dresser. You look good tonight. I, good for you. You don't look like you came out of the hamper.

It's obvious that these two are not going to be friends. And I think Danielle also, by not inviting Jackie to the event at her house, the mozzarella party, like Danielle did something too. Like it was like it's kind of been a back and forth already. So it's it's nice to see them come face to face, I guess. Yeah. And I mean the underlying thing here to me, which is obviously not going to be said, is that Danielle is Jackie's replacement.

And that is probably fueling a lot of her, her issues and thoughts around that more so than her being so offended by her jean shorts. That is, I think, probably an accurate take of the last, the last little moment of the episode. is, of course, Jennifer being taken to task for all of the shit that she has talked on the phone to various and sundry people. Specifically, she was talking to Jen Fessler about Margaret, and Jen Fessler told Margaret that

Aiden called her jealous. And Jen says that she said that Margaret was threatened by her, not jealous of her. And to me, I don't understand either. Right. Either description. Because they're so like in different worlds that to me it doesn't make sense. But I mean, you can always count on Margaret and Jen Aiden to really go below the belt. I think that's one thing.

That's what makes their fights so crazy to watch is like they'll both say anything no matter how mean it is. So that always brings the entertainment. Right. Like the clip that they've played a couple times of later in the season. season where Jennifer Aiden, it's like, it's because I have a family and you would have no clue what that's like. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah.

I mean, Jennifer has called Margaret's mom like slutty before. I think like that's like most people wouldn't go there, but they're both. And I mean, obviously we know Margaret's done to Jen, but. It's like putting like two like cats in a box or whatever and just kind of like, okay, yeah, go. Yeah, it's like, I don't want to watch, but I do want to watch a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's, you know, it really just, it does come back to the fact that Jen Aiden, I think, has been a little careless in how she's gone about the first few episodes of this season. And obviously, we're going to see this kind of divide between the cast continue.

And I think she has, if anything, drawn the lines in the sand a little quicker because of how she's been, you know, being messed. Agreed. I think this was, it seemed like almost more of like a set up episode than anything too crazy going on in it. Right. Because I think with three new people in the cast, there is a little bit of a sense of those first couple episodes, we're meeting them, they're meeting everyone, they're kind of just introducing themselves. And this was the episode where we kind of got a little more of a sense of like where the, where the pieces are going to scatter to. And we, we know, knew that from social media, from them doing press and all of this, but it really is clear after this episode that it's like, okay, Jen Fessler and Rachel are like on the Margaret Melissa's side

of things and Danielle is over and team Teresa. Yes. That was the lines were drawn. Right. And Danielle makes sure to remind us once again of the similarities between her situation with her brother and what Teresa's going through with Joe. And it's like, yeah, okay. But remember. Yeah. It's very explicit line drawn when she said it directly to Melissa's face. Right. We do remember that you went shopping with her explicitly to say, I think it's always the wife's fall. Jersey, not one for subtlety necessarily, but boy, is it entertaining. 100%. Very different, very different, like, execution of drama than, say, like, Beverly Hills or something. Yeah, Beverly Hills, which they started filming again last week. They've posted numerous.

group scenes, group photos altogether again with just the six of them because Diana and Rina both left. And there's not an inkling yet of like, does anybody have drama with anybody? Are we? Right. They got rid of a lot of the drama. Yeah. So that's going to be interesting. Garcell was on the Sherry Shepherd show yesterday and she was very like, fuck Rina basically. But she also, she mentioned how she and Sutton are seen as like the favorites. which kind of makes me nervous because I'm like, oh, let us say that to you. If you have to say it, right. Right.

Like let us be the ones who like you, not like you, be like, like, everybody likes me so much. That makes you a little less likable when you're like. Right. Like part of being the fan favorite is maybe because you, it felt like you were like under attack a little bit. Yeah. You know, the tides can change. The most popular girl in school doesn't go around saying she's the most popular girl in school. It's just no.

That is such a good point. You have to be like a low key, low key popular. Nobody likes the Regina George. Or you're a villain. Yeah. Well, Jordana, thank you so much for being here, as always. Of course. Thank you for having me.

I'll be back next week. Back next week with more Jersey to discuss. Will the love bubble get popped? Who knows? We shall see. Maybe in 2024. Thank you so much. Everyone for listening.

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