Mention It All - Miami Mugshots, Amanda’s Nightmare Episode, & RHORI/RHOBH Updates

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

Breaking news: Monkey’s got a mugshot. Dylan kicks off this week’s Bravo roundup episode with the important news out of Miami about Lisa Hochstein’s alleged criminal activity in her divorce. Will this be the push Bravo needs to un-pause RHOM? From there, he braces himself for a very bumpy episode of Summer House, where Amanda and West are both making themselves look even worse for very different reasons. Meanwhile, Ciara and Mia are rising above it all with a connection that feels genuinely refreshing. Later, it’s another great week for the new Rhode Island Housewives, with an unexpected feud developing, lots of hilarious one-liners, and an ill-fated trip to Studio 54. Dylan rounds out the show with a discussion of the RHOBH season finale, and a tip of the hat to Ladies of London. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday & Friday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Exclusions apply for licenses, see Home Depot.com slash license numbers. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Mentioned at All podcast. It is a hot and steamy week in New York City, and we have lots of stuff to get into today. So let's not waste any time. This segment is sponsored by Pepsi Prebiotic Cola. Pepsi is all about highlighting the little wins, the small victories that actually deserve the biggest hype. So let's take a minute to highlight some little wins in the Bravo universe this week. Sit back, pop open a Pepsi prebiotic cola, and let's get into it.

Now, my little win for this week is a little bit, I did some mental gymnastics to get here, but for me it's a win because, as we all know, it's been discussed a lot lately. The Real Housewives of Miami is currently not in production. They have been put on pause unceremoniously. We don't know if or when these women will come back. But the thing about being on pause is that you can be permanently on pause, but also, they could come back at any time. The cameras could show up one day and say,

look, we're doing another season, we're running it back. So I feel like when you're on pause, you have to, if you want the pause to end, you kind of have to be keeping the seat warm. You have to be, you have to be putting in the work. And my little win of the week is that the real houseways of Miami are still feeding us the drama, even if there is not a show to watch it on. Because Lisa Hawstein has some stuff going on, you could say. It was reported by page six earlier this week that there was a warrant out for,

Lisa Hawstein's arrest. A month after her boyfriend Jody, who we know from the show, was arrested, and they're apparently facing reportedly similar charges of one count of interception of wire, oral, or electronic communications. So that's what Jody was arrested for. There's a mugshot. Also, the mugshot is like very high quality. That is something I never quite understand. I guess it's just like some mugshots you see and it's like it's, it's hazy, the lighting's the fluorescent overhead light, it's bad. The shadows are all off. It's like a little blurry, like a webcam kind of picture sort of look. And then some mugshots, Jody's mugshot looks like the lighting is on point. It's crisp and clear. You know, I, I feel

like it was taken in a portrait studio. And so I'm like, does Miami just have like, you know, Instagram baddies taking the mugshots and you know you're going to get the perfect angle? Like, I don't know. You roll up to the police station. It's like a whole photo shoot. I don't know. But we've seen, we've seen one of Jody so far not of Lisa. But apparently this all relates back to something with Lisa's divorce case with Lenny. Her ex-Lenny obviously filed for divorce in 2022. It was a whole saga. I believe it was finalized in 2024. So the fact that we are still going through this on the roller coaster, the up and the down and the chaos, it's a lot. I mean, I, it's, it's sad that it's not like fully over. But apparently, um, again, this is according to the

reporting from page six that allegedly what Lisa and Jody are accused of has something to do with trying to illegally intercept statements made by Lenny or people kind of on, on Lenny's side in the case. I don't know enough about like divorce proceedings to know exactly how this is working, but I'm like, are they like standing in front of the mailbox, you know, stopping somebody from putting a letter in? Like, are they, like, hacking into the mainframe? Like, where is this taking place? What is this, like, a cyber security issue? Are they, like, I don't know.

But I would like to find out, you know what I would like to find out? On next season of Real Houseways of Miami. That, my little win of the week is that we have this to talk about. My big win would be, Bravo, picking up the cameras and, and finding out what's going on. Now, Lisa shared something on her Instagram story after this news was going around. around where she like reshared a graphic from this other account. Wait, let me, it was like, it was something about like when he, when he, it was like an account that posts about like toxic behaviors. And so she's not saying it. She's just resharing it.

It could be about anything. But then what I found really interesting was Carmen Carrera, who you might know her from Rupal's Drag Race back in the day. She is, you know, a performer icon Miami girlie. And she filmed for last season of Real Housewives of Miami. There were reports that she was going to be a friend of maybe. I think she came on the show through Kiki. There were, you know, videos, pictures of her like with the cast. She didn't really end up being on the show much at all. But clearly she spent time around them and she tweeted, there's no better birthday gift than someone who was disgustingly rude to me catch federal charges for being the trash human being. my intuition told me they were girl by peace sign emoji i would like to know what happened i would

like i would like the receipts of that let's get the cameras up bring carmara back to the stage and people of course are in the replies to this there's people that are team lisa there's people that are like oh what's her side of the story i would like to know i would like andy on a camera to be on the scene to be honest um so my little win of the week is you know that we have some material coming out of Miami. The ladies are keeping it spicy because you never know when the cameras could show up again. But that's where we're at. Thanks again to Pepsi Prebiotic for sponsoring our little wins. Available in original cola and cherry vanilla, Pepsi prebiotic cola brings the unbelievably Pepsi taste but with functional ingredients. No artificial sweeteners, just 30 calories,

only 5 grams of sugar and 3 grams prebiotic fiber. What's not to love? Try Pepsi prebiotic Cola today. Use promo 20 prebiotic. That's 20, P-R-E-B-I-O-T-I-C, to get 20% off your Pepsi prebiotic cola. Now until May 30th, 2026, when you shop at Amazon.com. Okay, we recorded that segment about Lisa and Jody a couple of days ago, and there have been some updates. So it brings me no joy to report that monkeys got a mugshot. Lisa Hawstein did. I think she surrendered herself. I don't think they, like, tracked her down on the streets of Miami. But she was arrested, formally charged. I don't.

Again, I'm not a lawyer. I've said it hundreds of times. It's somehow still true. But Monkey's got a mugshot. She looks good, just like Jody. These Miami mugshots, they know how to take a photo. But there is a mugshot. She's charged with the same thing that Jody was, which is the, you know, interference in the communications.

Yada, yada, yada. doesn't sound great, but also at the same time, it's like, fuck Lenny, right? Like, at the end of the day, do I, would it be, like, so surprising to me if Lisa and Jody, like, blurred some lines, did some fuzzy stuff in the divorce proceedings? Like, no, like, sure. Who among us? Who among us? But at the same time, whatever Lenny was doing to Lisa, even if it was legal, even if Lenny has never

broken a law in his life, what he did to Lisa was worse. And I feel that in my soul. No, but now there's also a report allegedly that Lisa and Jody, in addition, or as part of this interference, also maybe hit a tracker in Lenny's car, which I got to say, I don't. always love the, um, the Colton Underwood move of putting a tracker in your significant other's car when they're trying to get away. Um, but no, still team Lisa, team monkey. Free, free, free Lisa Hawstein. No, I don't know all the details. I, I could never weigh in like that, but I, it was heartwarming to see that Alexia and Adriana pulled up to support their girl, Lisa. You know, they've been through a lot over the last, I mean, they were all on Miami OGita.

It's been 15 years that they've known each other, that they've been on TV together. They pulled up to support, you know, Adriana's doing her like sidewalk interview. It's very like, you know, Kyle Cook saying that Carl's a mess on the side of the sidewalk. She's like, it's like, you know, we're here to support. We don't know all the details, but, you know, we're going to pull through for our girl. and you know, I just think all of this happening just a few weeks after finding out that the show is on pause. It really does feel like the good Lord works in mysterious ways. And, you know, Lisa is going through a season of life right now where she's being challenged by law enforcement and also by just like things.

and maybe the silver lining of this trial and tribulation that she's going through will be another season of Real Housewives of Miami. I just don't understand. Obviously, if the ratings were low, if I get it. It's tough times out there. We're all tightening our belts. Decisions have to be made. Things have to be trimmed.

And I get if at a certain point Bravo was like, I don't know if this makes sense to do right now. Look at the material. Look at the material. These women are delivering. And there's the only camera happening is the mugshot camera and the sidewalk reporter filming Adriana walking into the facility. We need Bravo cameras. We need high-deaf. We need boom operators.

We need mic packs. We deserve the full shabang. And I believe it will happen. I don't know if it'll happen right now, but I'm rocking with my girls from Miami. Free monkey. That's what I got to say. Now, it's been another busy week on the Bravo airwaves.

And we've had a busy week on the MIA airwaves too. Our episode earlier this week, man, I usually I plugged the stuff up top. We had to get right into Miami. Welcome back to the show, everyone. How's it going? It's hot outside. But no, earlier this week, we had the wonderful Simone Sanders Townsend on the show. She is, you know, a really just expert, you know, political operator.

Now she works at MS now, formerly MSNBC, an amazing, you know, journalist, host, commentator, Bravo fan, everything. I had the best time chatting with her. Really such a fun guest. Thanks, Simone, for coming on the show. And we have more great guests coming up the next couple weeks. Next Tuesday, I'll just tease. We have an Atlanta housewife in the house. It's in the can, so it can't get canceled.

It's happening. And then a very special guest that I guess I did post on my Instagram story. So I'll just say, Lisa Vanderpump's coming on the show in a couple weeks. She was in the stew. She brought a dog. Lisa and Donut sat right there. and man, we had a time. So I'm excited.

Make sure you're subscribed. YouTube.com slash at Bravo by Betches. Follow on Spotify, listen, wherever, you know, all the places. But it's going to be a good month of April. We're rolling right through. Did everybody do their taxes? I hope you did because I'm sitting here on April 16th. So if you haven't done them by now, they're late.

And you don't want to be like some of our erstwhile, the housewives, and be late on the taxes. because you never know when the government man is going to come back. But let's talk about Summer House. Oh, it ain't good. It's not good. I feel like I was in the last week or so kind of like reaching a plateau with everything that was coming with Summerhouse. You know, over the weekend, it was like Amanda posting that, you know,

again, just fucking nonsense on Instagram. where it's like, hey guys. So the last couple weeks have been a lot. You guys, like, it's been a lot. And I've just been kind of like realizing, like I've heard a lot of people, obviously. Like, duh. But like, we know that. So I'm going to decide to like, you know, make a change and, you know, move through the world and just kind of like live my life.

And that's what I need to do, like, for my mental health, for my social health. self-care. I'm just going to kind of like do me. And if you guys could just like be chill about that would soups appreciate. So hopefully that's not a problem. X-O-Mandy. That wasn't a verbatim read. Like I don't have it in front of me.

But, you know, you're kind of the vibe. And, you know, of course I am in support of people doing what they need to do and like prioritizing their mental health and yada yada yada but normally i feel like when you are making a statement to that effect it means that you're going to go you know like disappear for a bit it means that you're going to go you know seek therapy maybe there's a treatment program you know you're disappearing for a bit you're you're going off the grid you're you're really focusing on yourself you're doing the work and amanda's like you know i really just want to go to the blind tiger I really just want to go out in the West Village.

Ooh, I want, I want to drink bad at like a shitty bar. I haven't been to the Blind Tiger since I was like, 23. Like, you gotta go that bad. And then there's like photos on Des Moire or whatever of Amanda, like with a scarf covering her head, like trying not to be seen at the bar. She's with West. Of course, I do feel like at this point, we know that they're together. So the idea of like spotting them together is kind of. of not that titillating to me.

Like, there were photos also of him, I guess, leaving her apartment one morning and he was carrying like a bag and an extra pair of shoes. Like, I just think it's like fork found in kitchen kind of at this point. Like, I don't need to know exactly where they are, what they're doing. Frankly, I think it's a little weird. Like, I don't, I don't condone stalking. Like, I think that they have, you know, they're dealing with the consequences of their own actions in certain ways and we'll see about

the reunion and all of that there's rumors that west like doesn't want to go to the reunion i'm like i don't want to go either but like you better be there um no but i just am kind of like ready to check out of the like terminally online summer house moment but then we watched this fucking episode on tuesday now it was teased i believe i believe andy said before the episode aired that it would be like a tough episode for Amanda. And it is, it was. It was a tough episode for both West and Amanda, but for very different reasons. Like I think people, people now in the last few weeks have started watching Summerhouse with an eye to like finding sort of like Easter eggs of Kyle and Amanda potentially already being together last summer or having this connection that then was going to develop last summer.

and while there are, let's say, moments between them that feel sort of loaded with our, you know, current hindsight, like, for example, in this episode, Amanda's laying down in a bikini and West is just sitting on her. Like, why are we doing that? Why are we doing that? Why the fuck are we doing? Don't do that. Just like weirdo behavior. But, like, I don't think West is sitting on her because they're going to,

like sneak away and hook up later. I think they're doing that because they don't have boundaries kind of in any direction. But no, what's interesting about this week's episode is that West and Amanda both separately look really bad for different reasons. And they kind of have nothing to do with each other other than the aforementioned sitting on her, which I still just, we're adults. We are adults. But no, Amanda's big thing that episode is that there is this, you know, lingering situation from last week with Ben and his new lady friend Sabrina, who we didn't know existed and then she did and it turned out they were together before and now they're back. And can I just say, Ben seems like one of the least

fun people on the planet. Summer should be fun. Ben, not fun. Like the way that, the issue that he had with Bailey earlier in the season, the way that he's handling this whole Sabrina, a a situation. I'm just like, can you get over yourself? The way he talks to people, the way he handles his business, I just, it doesn't, it doesn't work for me. And I, first of all, I don't think he's hot enough to be acting like that. Second of all, I just like, I don't, I don't enjoy his vibe. And especially when you compare it to the other new people in the house, you have KJ. Seems like a great, great time to have around. Love his connection with Dara, who also seems like a good time. You know, Dara and, you know, Bailey, whoever had like a little, you know, issue they were working

through. They got over it. It's fine. It seems great. Love that. Mia is like an all-star. She's performing amazing. Her bond with Sierra feels so real and lived in an authentic. You know, Bailey and, you know, Levi's a little on the quiet side, but Bailey is doing a good job. You know, it feels like everybody else that's new in the house this season is like giving us something in a in a mostly positive direction and Ben is just like fucking sour grapes like miss miss me with that I'm not a fan um but Amanda first of all she's acting like it's so weird that he has this girlfriend because he's like he was acting single the entire summer and now he's making an issue out of it He just brought Sabrina around.

Like, who's this? It's like, first of all, you're married. It doesn't really matter who's this. And then she is continuing to bring up this thing of like, last summer in Italy, he wanted to fuck me. And was I playing into it because it's fun to get attention? Maybe I was. It's like, madame, madame, you shouldn't be doing this.

First of all, I feel like it's never. it's never like a great idea to be like, see that guy? He wanted to fuck me last summer. Like, even if that is accurate, if you're the one telling the story about yourself, it's always going to make you sound a little psycho. Because it just is like, it's, it's painting that picture of like, hmm, everybody's obsessed with me. You know that thing they can't have? It's exactly what they want. He knows I'm married and hit me. makes it want me even more. It's like,

ugh, enough. And also, like, admitting that you played into it, just like a weird look when, you know, thinking through like this, when we were watching this season, before we knew what we know now, which is so hard to actually think about. It's like Amanda was kind of like

the hero of the narrative. Like, we were talking about how bad Kyle was being. Like, it just, it feels like, why would you admit that? Why would you bring that up? She's like, I get that you're in love now, but do not act like I'm the one. Okay, enough. Again, cool it.

But anyway, and at the same time, Kyle's like, we're feeling good. I finally feel hopeful about my marriage with Amanda. It's like, tough, tough break. Meanwhile, you know, Jesse is saying that West isn't ready for a healthy relationship. Ding, ding, ding. And he thinks it would be good for West and Sierra to have a boundary, but it's not going to happen. again, ding, ding, ding.

You know, I'm not one to give Jesse Solomon his flowers too much, but he's not wrong. Now, I don't know that Jesse is any more ready for a healthy relationship than West is. He's just not in this moment as toxicly aligned, let's say. He has this girl Maggie that he's been seeing for like three weeks and he's acting like by not hooking up with some other girl that's at the party that he has. has like achieved some state of nirvana and like is going to be a changed person. It's like my guy, we all watched last season. We can't be doing this again and again and again.

And I, that is the thing with Jesse that I feel like frustrates me more than like any one like moment or action or whatever that maybe I drag him for. I'm like, I feel like he is so blind to his own patterns. and I'm like, yeah, like, this is not the first or the second or it might be the third time that you have like a crush on a girl and are acting like it's going to be like an overhaul of your lifestyle and habits. And like, I don't believe it. It's like, show me the proof and then and then we can talk. Whatever. That's not what's important in this episode of Summerhouse.

I do just want to take one moment before we get into the West and Amanda, you know, bullshit spectacular. the moment of Mia talking about her mom passing away and being open with Sierra about that is such a nice moment. And obviously, like, I don't like saying a nice moment makes it sound kind of like flip it. But like I, it really does feel like something unique that within all of this like mess that's going on in the house, it feels like Mia and Sierra are forming a bond and like a. trust with one another that is kind of like a on a higher level and I just think that's really nice and I I love to see it and it's unfortunate that that is kind of like not able to be like a main theme of how we're watching this show right now but I see it and I appreciate it and Mia you're doing good girl you're doing a good job but so you know people start arriving for

this party it's like Vegas themed but Jesse didn't and buy any decorations or invite any people. I don't know. But Sabrina arrives and she gets out of the car and Ben is like, you're ready to throw some punches of what? It's like, why is that the energy? But Amanda pulls her for a chat and she apologizes. She feels bad for catching Sabrina off guard.

And it wasn't her information to share. And, you know, just feel so bad. And Sabrina, she kind of is the bigger person. And she's like, yeah, I wear my heart on my sleeve. So I just felt like we were getting along well. So it kind of like shook me. But, you know, we're good. And she said she would know if Amanda wasn't coming from a good place and she would have been savage.

Okay. I don't love Sabrina either. Like, let's be clear. But like, in this case, like, Amanda needed to apologize. But then it gets a little weird. Because watching this episode, if we were watching this episode a month ago, I think I would be reacting very differently. And I can recognize that that. that my opinion is being filtered, but like I'm only human.

And also, once normalize changing your opinion when you're presented with new information. So watching Amanda debrief with Mia and Sierra as they're getting ready for this party about how her conversation with Sabrina has gone. And she goes, this is a quote. I wrote this down. I feel like everybody hates me. I don't like that I made someone feel any type of way with my words and my actions. That makes me feel icky about myself.

I mean, just like, what are we doing here? Amanda is putting on like she has made the mistake of the century by having a tiff with this girl Sabrina, who was very receptive to her apology. mind you. She's like, I just I just can't, oh, I'm just so torn up about the fact that I could possibly hurt someone or make them feel any type of, with my words and my actions.

Oh, I gotta go take a shower. I feel icky. And she's saying this, of all people. To Sierra Miller. What are we doing here? Because watching Sierra be like, girl it's okay you fucked up we all do it it's it doesn't make you stupid it's it's human whatever Sierra of course having the same you know empathetic human reaction that she always does to all the fucking people in this house where she's there for them and she's comforting them and she's making them feel okay because she's like a you know a cool good person and watching

this, knowing that in six months' time, give or take, Amanda is going to do something way worse to Sierra than what she ever kind of maybe did to Sabrina. Not to mention the fact that Sabrina is some random girl that she just met that she didn't know existed. And Sierra is her close friend and colleague of years that they have been through the fucking ringer together. and Amanda has sat there later in this episode and all the other times and sat there and listened or I guess pretended to listen or, you know, listened and then, you know, in one ear and out the other. While Sierra has been so open and so raw about all of her experiences and feelings and the way that other people don't seem to give a fuck about her experiences and her feelings, you know, namely West, but he's not the only one.

And watching this moment of Amanda's, I mean, like, I don't want to, I wasn't there. I'm not inside her head, but it seems like to me kind of performative acting so or hurt that she could hurt someone. Give me a break. Put your money where your mouth is. If you really hate making somebody feel a type of way with your words and your actions, maybe you shouldn't do words and actions that make someone feel a type of way. ever like you're in control you hold the wheel Jesus didn't take the wheel Amanda did and she steered it right into Sierra's heart

it's it's just it's hard to watch because Sierra is somebody that we have this connection with as viewers that it's just like man this was a moment that seemed like one thing while it was happening and now that we're watching it with this information it's like, Jesus, it hurts. It really hurts. And then meanwhile, Westling has invited some chick to the party. Good for him.

Which, like, fine. West is a single guy, whatever. Like, the idea that West would have, like, somebody he's interested in that's not Sierra is not, like, deeply offensive to me. But it's the specific way that he handles his business and that he's always, you know, putting his mess out in the streets, that it's just like the absolute lack of consideration and thought behind his actions where we're literally watching him on this like, you know, outdoor furniture love seat by the pool, with Sierra sitting like inches away from him, And this random girlie comes up and sits on West's lap.

And then they're like making out. And it's just, oh. Ben is calling him out. Sierra saying that it hurts more because she's like, you don't, I'm always saying like, it feels like you don't see me. It feels like you don't see me. And now he's literally acting like she's physically.

not there, it's so, oh, it's just so gross. Like, if you want to be bringing a girl to the party, make out, do it in like a normal adult way of like, oh, like, let's go off somewhere and chat. Let's go inside and like hang out for a bit one-on-one. Some girl sitting on your lap, making out in front of the group is like weirdo behavior. Grow up. Everybody grow up. It's just, it's not great. It's really not great.

And I mean, the Sierra, the Sierra stuff is just like so complicated and shitty. And, you know, he's like, oh, well, it's just annoying because it's like, I've been, I've been trying to to be good, like, to a fall all summer while Sierra has been, like, cuddling with Jesse under the sheets? And also, like, we haven't had a single conversation all summer. And, you know, so I don't even know where we stand. And it's like, okay, well, there's a few things wrong. First of all, like, you're not the fucking victim in any of this. But I am so sick of hearing West complain about how he and Sierra haven't had a single conversation all summer so he has no idea where they're at and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, why is it Sierra's job to come find you and have talking points ready to go and have a conversation where she tells you exactly where things are?

Yes, like she's the one who has like put him in probation or whatever. But if he wants to not be in probation, do the work. you know, people don't get released from prison on good behavior if they're not exhibiting good behavior. If you don't want to be in probation, maybe you should be like treating Sierra like somebody you actually like respect and like sometimes. It's not rocket science. And, you know, Sierra is allowed to have her own, you know, complex feelings. She's allowed to change her mind about stuff. Like, it, it doesn't have to be like an easy, like, straightforward path of, like, West and I were not on good terms. And then we had one conversation and now we are like,

she's allowed to need whatever she needs. But West's whole thing is like, I don't know what she needs. And it's like, fucking ask. Speak to her. You're, you're literally like living together in a house. It's so frustrating to me. But she says at the end of the episode, there's a reason why he was in probation for so long. And now he's back in jail. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough for both of them. And I don't know. It doesn't seem like it's getting any better. The reunion is happening. We'll see it next month. I'm scared. I'm a little scared. I do hope they both go.

There was like a somebody was putting out. People always say the weirdest. There was a rumor that the reunion was going to be like one-on-one interviews. Because they couldn't be together. I'm like, what? Where did that come from? That doesn't sound real. But no, I'm scared, but I'm interested. I'm intrigued. I don't know. I just like watching this episode.

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I don't want to be mad anymore, so let's talk about Real Housewives of Rhode Island because I could never be mad with these girlies. And I do say that after watching three episodes of this show, but I, they're my girl. and Alicia and her dolls, we get to meet them this week, all her dollies, just such a special group. And there's a moment.

So I am not a big watcher or like pay attentioner of the official Bravo after shows. It's something that they, it's hit or miss when they do it, what shows they do it for. It doesn't really like come across my feed too much. And I always feel kind of with the after shows. I mean, look, this is part of my job. It's not my entire job. A bitch is busy. There's a lot of stuff to watch.

There's a lot of meetings to go to. The after show is not always at the top of my list, but I do feel like usually when the after show has, you know, information or moments that are sort of relevant in a larger context, they usually kind of make their way around, like on social media and stuff. I can't recall the last time I have seen more content coming out of an after show than Rhode Island. And I mean, good for these ladies. What can't they do?

But there's a specific moment from the after show this week. You know how on the after show they have them paired together in like different clusters? So for the Rhode Island after show, Jo Ellen and Alicia are paired together. And of course, it's a great time. we're always having fun and over in Alicia land something's going on you're with the dolls in the valley of the dolls even um you're having a good time but on this week's after show joel they're talking about like the rula and brian stuff which we'll get to a little bit more and joelan just goes i have fucking proof and then she's like oh my god i'm so like she kind

of like catches herself and it's like i can't believe i just like yelled like like that. Like, we're literally like sitting in a studio with like a producer and Alicia and just like talking to ourselves basically about this. And while she's in the midst of being like, you guys, I'm so sorry. Alicia just goes, I have fucking proof. Fully just like repeating but taking to it. Like she is so unsurious in a way that I, I can't get enough of her. And yeah, in this episode, she introduces Liz to her doll collection. that are all living in the, parked in the living room right now

because they're doing some kind of construction on her house. And the way she speaks about these dolls, she's like, well, you know, I do consider in an art form. And, you know, I think it's very beautiful. The way that there's, you know, looking at all of them,

there's the, you know, the mascara and the, the, the, eye shadow. And then if you look, they all have a very, a little bit of a different lip with a little bit of shimmer on it. And I do, you know, I think it's very beautiful. let my daughter play with it, but only very gently. Like, everybody should have a, everybody should have a hobby.

And her hobby is looking but not touching at the dolls. And I think that's beautiful. Now, we've got a couple big things we need to talk about on this week's episode of Rhode Island. And the first one I want to touch on is that Kelsey's man has arrived. And I don't mean Mr. Sugar Daddy whose face we can't show. I mean the second boyfriend. her friend, as I think he's like titled on the show, Bill. We're meeting Bill.

We're meeting Bill who Kelsey has known since middle school because of course she has. There's only 16 people in Rhode Island, so you meet them all pretty young. But she's like, I had a coffee shop, which first of all, okay, I thought this was interesting. She shows up at the coffee shop first. She buys her coffee. She sits down. He shows up to the coffee shop. he goes, buys his coffee and then comes and sits down.

And I'm like, okay, so when she buys her own coffee, is she paying for that with like Sugar Daddy money? Because if I was Bill, first of all, I want to do a whole, I could do a whole hour on where does Bill fit into this equation and how is he like making that work in his mind? But like, when you show up to the coffee shop and Kelsey's sitting. there with her coffee and you're like, oh, I'll go get my own. Like, if I were Bill, which is a very weird mental position for me to put myself in, because first of all, that would mean I was straight, which just like, that's weird. And then you're dating a woman who's living with another

man, but only half the time, wouldn't you want to pay for her coffee? I don't know. Maybe that's too traditional of me. I feel like if you're on a date with the second guy in your polyamorous situation, he should want to pay, right? I don't know. Way in in the comments. But so we meet Bill. Nice guy. Kelsey's family loves Bill.

Bill's family loves Kelsey. Like I said, they go way back. They seem to be very age appropriate for each other. Not that I'm judging her age gap in her, you know, primary relationship. But, you know,

they known each other since they was little. They grow up together. They're both from Rhode Island. that, you know, they got a lot in common. What can you say? And this man seems to be just whipped by her. Like, it is such a, I, I don't have any, like, weird feelings about open relationships about polyamory, whatever we're going to call it on this show. Um, you know, Ashley's trying her best to pronounce it. It's not going so great. But it's just a, weird, it's a weird setup that Kelsey is basically on her own version of The Bachelor,

where the, or The Bachelorette, I guess, where the final two contestants are a rich, older guy who will never marry you or have kids with you, despite you wanting that. Or a really nice guy, we think, we don't, I mean, I don't want to speak to the men of Rhode Island after knowing them for an hour, but a really nice presenting guy who you've known your whole life, who is objectively, visibly head over heels and love, will give you marriage and kids, presumably, and also maybe doesn't have two pennies to rub together. Like isn't tripping over himself to pay for your coffee. And that's a dilemma, ladies and gentlemen, it's a toughie.

and you can tell that she is kind of, she's like, so the thing is like, it's not that I wouldn't, it's not that I couldn't work, like I don't want to, but I could. But the thing with Bill, with Bill, is that he wouldn't be able to provide me with the life that this other guy, he who must not be named, can provide me with. So, it seems we are at an impasse. Like, I am so curious, and I haven't really tried to, like, spoil this for myself. If there's a real-time update, I'm sure some people have figured it out. But, like, where is she going to go with this?

How long can you have these two, you know, two beautiful girls stand before me, but I only have one photo in my hands? How long can Tyra delay the elimination? It seems like you're kind of meeting the point where push comes to shove. But I don't know. But the end of the conversation, first, I mean, he's in fucking love with her. But the end of the conversation where she's like, yeah, you know, I could come over to like, the place where you live at. I'm like, I need to see this man's home.

Like, does he live in like a, you know, loft above a garage? Is it like a, you know, does he have roommates? Like, what are we talking? Because she's, she's, she's. Acting like coming to where he lives would be like scary for her. And I, that makes me scared for her because it seems like her situation might be changing at some point. And I don't know, I don't know if she's going to love that for herself. But whatever, let's talk about another reveal that we get this episode, which comes in the form of a confessional where we are at home with Rula.

We're meeting someone for family. Rula's very interesting. She reminds me a little, like, I think she looks a little bit like Peggy Salahian from Real House Housewives of Orange County, Housewife 100, mixed with Paula Abdul. I mean, she's a very striking woman. Paula Abdul, by the way, also half Syrian. So maybe they're cousins. I don't know. But they're at her house.

You know, she is, you know, open about that it's been a. tough time in her marriage, whatever, whatever. She seems to not want to pin down a lot of those details. And then in her confessional, she says, you know, like, no, you know, I haven't considered divorce because in, in, you know, the, you know, Syrian, Lebanese community, divorce is not something that's very common. And the producer, the producer, thank God for this producer, off camera, the voice we hear, haven't you been divorced once before? and the way her face drops, and you could tell she was pissed. And she goes, yeah, I'm not really trying to talk about that.

You know, I don't think my family would really like it. It's like, wait, I'm sorry. We met this woman a week ago. We're getting a whole saga about her current husband cheating on her, rubbing more than feats, as Alicia would say. And then we, we, it's a full, she's not even, she's trying to fully hide the fact that she got, divorced in the past. And now we don't know anything more about this previous marriage. She's certainly

not going to tell us. And see, that seems clear. But it's like, oh my God, this cast truly is like the gift that keeps on giving. There are so many layers. I don't know. It's like, I don't know when we're going to get to the bottom. I hope not soon. There's a lot going on. It is just, it's so, it's so funny to me that you would come on a show like this where your active current storyline is going to be parsing through your husband's confirmed infidelity, but the question is whether or not it's still happening and also whether or not he tried to get one of your co-stars fired as a result

of her knowing, talking about it. Like that is the skeleton that's out of the closet, but you're like, we're not going to speak about my divorce. Okay, okay, Diva. Your choice. Like, okay, that seems less messy to me, unless it's not. Unless it's not. I want to hear from the ex-husband.

Actually, no, that's too much. I don't want, like, what if he's like Lenny Hochstein? I don't want to be like wishing that upon any of us. But I am curious. I'd like her to talk about it when she's ready. But the big event of the week is Liz is having a studio 54 party for Jerry's 54th birthday. And you know, Liz is kind of at the center of the attention because there's the whole thing of a herenzino and this tour and affair that other people are saying happen. And she said, it never happened.

I never slept with this person. And they're very close friends. And they would be out together on the town three, four nights a week alone. She was, okay, so this is a woman who's like in her late 40s, 50s at the time and had the energy to be out on the town three to four nights a week. In any scenario? I don't understand. And she's smoking weed. How do you have the energy?

I take like two puffs of the pen. And it's like, I'm like sundowning. I mean, kudos to Liz for her stamina, apparently. But no, everybody shows up to this party. God bless Rosie. Her outfit didn't, she didn't like the way it fit. So she's in something a little tragic. Alicia's in like a full like spangled leotard.

I love that for her. Everybody looks good mostly, you know. Rosie, it was, it was tough, I got to say. But Joellen looks great. You know, Liz looks great. Everybody's having a good side. Ashley with the bangs. She looks good.

I like, I'm like, Ashley is not like making the biggest impression on me so far on this show, but I do like her. She's still talking a lot about the coffee shop, got to say. It's a lot about the coffee shop. But no, back to Studio 54. You know, Joe Ellen shows up and right away, of course, we got to have a talk. So, Joe Ellen and Gary and Rula and Brian, they go out to this, like, private room. they're really sitting down for like a like it feels like they're in the godfather like okay we got to talk let's talk let's talk about what happened with bro with brian with the mistress because joelan

is telling us a little bit more about you know she's talking to her husband earlier in the episode and we're we're getting a little bit more detail into what you know allegedly went down and it's pretty crazy that they work in the same industry in this like medical cosmetic services, sales, whatever. And that basically Brian is like reporting to colleagues of Joe Ellen's that she, you know, was involved in this thing and trying to get her like written up and HR is talking to. And it doesn't sound like he really was able to like,

Like, obviously she didn't get fired. And so I don't know exactly how those conversations went. But it does seem like, why would you have been doing that if your goal wasn't for me to have negative repercussions at work? It seems pretty clear. And, you know, he doesn't super deny it. It seems like the denial is more of like he's not willing to say like, oh, yeah, I was trying to get you fired. but it's like, oh yeah, I did, I did call your co-worker. And it's like, well, what else was the point of that?

What do you mean? Like, what were you trying to do? And it's a weird, it's a weird interaction. You know, Joellen and Gary are, I think, very good at putting on the United Front. I mean, obviously, Gary is upset that he feels like his wife was unfairly, you know, maligned. sort of targeted in this like professional way. And I think that that to me like that's something that feels like it should be a pretty clear line of something that's not okay. It's like, you know, obviously we know we're not supposed to talk about kids. We're not supposed to

talk about, you know, husbands sometimes. Career really is is a tough one too. Especially, you know, these women, they're starting to film their first season of a TV show. These are not people who are celebrities and just have like little jobs here and there. It's like, no, that's, that's your, that's your livelihood. You need that direct deposit every other week. That's, that's the money that's coming in. And it's interesting after this conversation when Rula and Brian leave that they're in the car. And Rula is really upset with Brian at him not jumping in and really like defending her, speaking up more, like having her back in this conversation. And it's like, I mean, unfortunately, ma, maybe that's because he is rubbing more than feats.

Like, maybe the guy who we know cheated on you last year and is allegedly maybe still cheating on you, depending on who you ask, maybe he's not that invested in having your back in the conversation because he's kind of like one foot out the door. I don't know exactly how he feels or where that current affair situation is at with the mistress. But like if I had to guess, I'm like, yeah, like Gary seems pretty locked in with Joe Allen. He's her ride or die husband that, you know, he's known since middle school or whatever. They did, I don't know, communion. Brian kind of seems like he like could give two shits respectfully.

So, I don't know, but the other big flip out that happens, we'll see how that all develops, is unexpectedly between Kelsey and Liz. Because, so Liz, you know, there's all this talk circling all over the state, statewide, of what happened with Dino. And so she says, you know, I think it would be nice for you, me and Jerry and Dino to go down to the seawall and just sort of like, Stand there for a few minutes so everybody could look and see that we're all good. There's no drama. We can, everybody can get along at the seawall. And I'm just like, oh, yes, the seawall. So majestic.

Just like, I want to have a seawall. I'm going to go. Come meet me at the seawall. It's the apology dune of Real Housewives of Rhode Island, truly. But Liz, or Kelsey is like, no, no, no. No, it's not a good idea to go with Dino because of all the ongoing. And I think she was saying like ongoing shit. And Liz just latches onto this word ongoing.

She's like, the ongoing, ongoing what? Like you're saying ongoing. Like what's ongoing? Like what are we? What's on? Oh, yeah, ongoing. Oh, yeah, fuck you ongoing. Like I just, the way that she just like, it's like she is, she's like a motor revving up and it's like,

I'm going. Now we're yelling. And so Liz like flips out. She goes upstairs to a room where it clearly the cameras were not meant to be. We're seeing cameramen. We're seeing like, you know, bronzer and lip cloths like scattered across the dressing table. It's very chaotic. You know, she and, you know, Kelsey follows her and they go into the, I think they're in the bathroom talking so we can like here but not fully see.

And it's very dramatic. And they're yelling. and, you know, um, Joellen and Alicia are hearing this happening. They're like, what's going on? Let's go up the stairs. Let's go check. And, and then they're being kicked out. You know, Liz is like, get out of here. We go away. And Liz is insinuating in her confessional that something has happened between Kelsey and Dino. Like, what now? Another thing? Does she have a third boyfriend?

What about Bill? Bill's at the Studio 54 party. He would have been there either way, she tells us. But so now, and the producer's like, what happened with Kelsey andino? She's like, you'd have to ask her. And I hope they do. And I'm sure they will. Very dramatic.

I just was not, I mean, again, this is the third episode of this show. We already have plenty of other stuff going on. I was not expecting a big fight between Kelsey Liz at all, let alone for it to escalate to this point where it really seems like they are fighting. They're not like bickering about something like this is clearly a deeper thing that we're just sort of on earthing. Man, these women contain multitudes and all of it's a mess and I'm loving it all. Good sleep is everything. That's why Ali's science back support is made with a blend of melatonin and L-Dien for both kiddos and grown-ups. So when you're

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yelling at each other about the same old shit. And I, you know, I want to have like interesting thoughts about Beverly Hills, but it just feels like, okay, Kyle's crying about Mauricio again. She's saying, when the moment comes to pull the plug on a marriage, you'll know. And when the moment comes, I'll know and I'll act on it, but it's not right now. And I'm like, we've been separated for like three years. When is the moment coming? Not to be, I mean, I don't want to be like flippant about somebody deciding to get divorced.

My parents are divorced. Like, it's okay. I don't know. I am very, I'm very curious in the reunion preview when Andy's asking her if she's going to ask for half of the agency, if and when they do get divorced. And she's like, well, I'm entitled to. it. Now we know why she's not asking for a divorce because it's going to be a fucking mud fight. You think Maricio's just going to be like, yeah, baby, here you go, half of the agency.

I don't think that's how it's going to go. He's going to be like, I have a lifestyle making out with 25-year-olds in Aspen that needs to be maintained. I can't just be giving away half the agency. But yeah, the episode starts with the cliffhanger from last week of Sutton and Erica not being at Doreet's book party. Sick burn. But it's like, why was that a cliffhanger? They're just like, yeah, I didn't tell her. I just decided not to go.

I don't know. Sutton's like, Doreet doesn't treat me well. I didn't feel like going. I'm like, okay. Did that really warrant a to be continued? I mean, really. No, but, you know, Doreet and Rachel then are like debriefing from the book party. And, you know, Doreet has her.

Separate but related issues with Sutton, Erica, and Kyle. She's like, so Sutton didn't come under the guise of not putting a damper on the evening, but you shat all over the evening by what you did. I'm like, I mean, amen, sister. Tell it like it is. Meanwhile, Derreet is like still very skeptical of Kyle being genuinely concerned about her. And with Erica, she's hurt about being so flippant about, you know, a 10-year friendship.

I honestly think maybe the Erica thing is the most valid. Because it does feel like Erica, you know, I think that Erica's like frustrations with Doreet are warranted. But it does feel like Erica is doing the thing that she does sometimes where she sort of just like shuts off and draws a line in the sand with somebody, as Rachel's saying. And it's just kind of like, well, it's done. because later when they're talking

and Doreet's like and you didn't even tell me that you weren't coming and you didn't even send a fucking text message and blah blah blah blah blah and Erica's like no I didn't and I went it

because you know I don't think and it's done and Doree it is when it's like Eric I don't love when Erica gets into that kind of like cold robot mode

where she's like this is over so I'm not going to like really engage. It just isn't that compelling. And I do think that with with the book party, whether or not you think that a book cover reveal is a warranted event to have a party for, it was important to her. And you didn't come.

And that is making a statement. And I think it's okay for her to be upset about that. But yeah, I mean the season, this season just kind of like fizzles a little bit. We find out that Kyle says she's walking away from Doreet right now because she feels like she's not being treated right. Sutton confronts Doreet and says that she's watched her treat her friends like dirt all summer.

I mean, it does, it's like Doret's getting it from a lot of angles and I think like I said, she deserves some of it, but it's not been a very fun feud triangle cube, whatever. to watch. And I'm not, I'm interested to see actually if some of this discord translates better to a reunion where everybody's kind of like stuck in one place and the whole point is to hash it out. Because like the whole time they were in Italy, these last couple episodes, it just hasn't felt like anybody's really like keen to make any progress.

And, you know, I don't need everybody to get along, but I also don't want to watch people have the same fight 12 times in a row. And that's what it's felt like a little bit. But I'll just say, congrats to Amanda Francis on her new book, godly as fuck. Oh, she's so silly. Oh, man, I just,

I want to touch just super briefly on Ladies of London because I haven't talked about it in a couple weeks. And Ladies of London is doing great. They're at Longleet, and boy am I jealous. They're on the boat feeding the sea lions in the lake. They're seeing all the different animals, the hippos, the otters, the monkeys. I just want to go.

I want to go to Longleet. Take me to Longleet. I'm just like 57 minutes into the opposite. I'm just like having a tantrum about wanting to go to Longley. But no, it's been fun to watch. But I will say the way that Mark and Kimmy are treating Margo, I don't love. I don't love it. I think it's gone a little too far.

and I think that Mark is, like Mark's like bitchiness is a very like entertaining piece of his, what he brings to the table. But right now I kind of feel like it's the only thing he's bringing to the table. And I would be interested to see a little bit more dimension for Mr. Mark Francis Vandelli. And I think that at the end of this episode, when Margo's like wanting him to come over and talk to her, because he's been talking shit about her like across the lawn about her, you know, visible piano. in the dress, it's an liar, duh. When he like storms off and it's like, take my mic off, it's like, enough.

We got, like, you're, we're eight episodes into a show. You guys need to sit down and have a chat. And even if you think that Margot's like a little bit silly or a little bit, you know, distasteful, play along. We can get through this. It's not that deep. And I think Margo is willing to come. Margo wants,

Marco wants to talk. I think Margo means really well. I like Margo. Margo's crazy ass. She just wants us gone. She's not drinking her calories like everybody else. Let her have us gone. Be nice.

Like a little bit. A little bit nice. A little bit bitchy. That's enough. But watch Ladies of London. If you're not, it's a good time. It's just like an easy breezy.

It's a fun watch. That's all for today. Thank you everyone for watching, for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe, follow. Next Tuesday, we have an Atlanta house swipe and then LVP the week after that. So you don't want to miss the upcoming episodes. And until next time, be cool.

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