Mention It All - Miguel Luciano Spills on Housewives Impressions & Going Viral Ft. Miguel Luciano

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

On this week’s video episode,  Dylan is joined by TikTok star Miguel Luciano, the man behind the spot on Real Housewives impressions that have taken Bravo fans by storm. Miguel tells Dylan how he perfected impersonations of Housewives like Mary Cosy & Ramona Singer, what Housewives really think of his content, and who’s next on his impression list. They also break down all things RHONY & RHOM, and expectations for BravoCon later this year. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches 00:00 Introduction07:35 Miguel’s Bravo origin story09:38 The Ramona impression11:06 How Miguel honed in on his impression skills13:47 Which housewife was the first to react to Miguel’s impression?17:33 Why is Dylan blocked!?33:35 What does RHOM get right about Miami?37:55 Going to BravoCon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He is crushing it with the Housewives impressions all the time. Miguel Luciano, welcome. How are you? I'm great. How are you? Thank you for that lovely introduction. Of course. You had a night last night.

Yeah, I'm like still recovering. You went to this DirecTV extravaganza. Yes, DirecTV and Bravo TV had a big plot to party with a bunch of different Bravo Leberties and content creators. And it was a lot of fun. It was great to see them like commingling, like the cheerleaders and the jocks and the water polo kids, you know? It's like, okay, who is Austin Kroll going to talk to at this Housewives party?

Totally. Like seeing him and Meredith Marks at the same table, it's like, oh, okay. It is funny because I feel like back in the day, maybe like five, six years ago, the idea of like people from different Bravo shows being together was kind of novel. It was like, oh, like, do they know who each other are? Like, what's the story?

And like, between social media and BravoCon and Ultimate Girls Trip and all that, it's like, oh, yeah, like this. It's become a little bit more common. Yeah, they like up, they chat. There's always rumors about people having, you know, showmances and things like that. I love the, like, an inter show beef, though.

Oh, like when shows beef with each other. Yeah. Okay. You know, I'm so solely committed to, my house wyvery that I'm very tuned out and tapped out of anything else. Adriana was on Watch What Happens Live and they asked her who the most, who the rudest like Bravo person she's met and she said, Jazeel. I heard that.

I saw that. And just Jazeel commented on the Instagram post and she said, Harpo, who this woman? I mean, you know, look, look, my perspective on the whole thing is there's always, I mean, I'm not saying Ejana's lying. I'm just saying there's always two sides to every story. Like we never know. Right. what's really going on.

So it's always comical to kind of get one person's perspective, but it's also like, well, let's hear what the other person has. It makes me think of the story about how Nini Leaks was rude to Kenya Moore's boyfriend. Kimura across the street. Yeah. Well, my favorite story of someone being rude to someone is Ramona and Bethany, being like, you were rude to my assistant. She's like, well, you know what?

I didn't even realize I was her. You know what? I'm sorry? I don't even know her. And she's like, you've known her for 10 years. How dare you? You know what? I'm sorry?

And sometimes I just... I don't think Ramona is the best at like, like placing a face that she's seen before. Yeah. Remembering somebody that she's met. I think that the brain does a good job of filtering out information that it doesn't think is important. And I think Ramona has very specific information that she finds important. Her filters are set.

Yeah, they're set. Like she knows what she's needing and who she's needing it from. And if you're not in that box, she's good. Her brain has like the spam filter up to 100. Yeah, yeah. Like there's very little. I get one email a day. Completely.

the input the input is very low. The threshold for input is very low on new information or ideas. And, you know, honestly, that sounds peaceful a little bit. And you know what? It also makes her a spectacular television, which as a content creator and as a, when I do any impersonations or sketches, I'm watching it as an entertainer and as a comedian first. So I don't watch the Housewives for morality. I'm not interested in being like, team this person, team that person.

I'm like, I think they're all fucking hilarious. It is fun. It's all fun. I feel like when I meet people a lot of time, they're like, who's your favorite? housewife, which like, if you've asked me that, you're fine. But I'm always like, I don't know. Like, I don't, it's all fun. I don't need to play favorites. I, I'm here for the game. I'm here to watch the game. Yeah, yeah. It's all about like, and even I find like, even housewives that I find typically annoying, I think they're still good for the show. Yeah. Like I, there's housewives,

we need housewives that cause a little friction, a little attention. And I think it's part of the machine. It's important for the machine to have certain people that maybe even rub you the wrong way a little bit, you know, and there's nothing better than having a transformation with a housewife, like starting off not liking a housewife and then second season being like, damn, you know what? There's a real humanity to her. She's actually a real person underneath the Prada bags or the Birken bags. Like, I'm excited for Stephanie Show Jha to have that because so far it's coming off a little bit. I've been wondering.

One layered. Yeah. If we are going to get to see it, you never know. You know, I'm curious because it's very specific right now. It's a very specific thing. Obviously, they have thousands of hours that they can only edit into a certain, you know. But I actually, I'm. enjoying watching or even if it's feeling a little one-dimensional, there has to be a there there.

So I'm curious to see that unfold. Right. Like no matter how shallow or, you know, somebody might be, your whole personality can't be like babies and burkins don't mix. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And I think that, again, there's probably stuff on the cutting room floor that just never made it.

And also, you know, I think like in any real life group, we all walk in with an idea of how we want to be perceived, right, until we feel comfortable to let the guard down. And as an actor and as an acting coach, I'm always. always looking at it from like a psychological perspective. Okay. So there's an element to it that I'm like, she's trying to fit in, maybe. She wants to be friends with these girls. She wants to maybe feel a certain type of way, which everyone has felt that, right?

Yeah. And I think like in the like acting vein, too, it's like everybody comes on probably with an idea of like what they want to give on the show. So maybe that performance has to sort of like get broken down a little bit. Completely. And we earn trust, right? We earn that. So I think so far, no one has earned it yet.

mind you, she's maybe hasn't done herself any favors, but, but, but, you know, but I think that I'm excited to see the humanity underneath her. Yeah. And she's actually, let me tell you something, you know what she's giving me? Early Kristen Takeman. When Kristen Takeman joined New York in season seven, she was taking on all the big dogs and not blinking. And people like thought she was too big for her britches, but now you rewatch, she slayed almost all those dragons. Maybe, you know, she, whatever, but like, she, she did her thing of like, she took it on the chin. Yeah, that's an interesting comparison because I think Kristen doesn't necessarily get a lot of

she's not remembered in kind of that like top tier of New York Housewives because there is such an iconic core but yes she did for how short of a time she was on the show she made an impact she did and she got Ramona wet, she got her, who are you to get me wet? Yeah and so she

took on Bethany several times and I mean she really held her own so Stephanie I think you know there's certain housewives that in the moment and again when you're in like you just said with an iconic core it's hard to make an entrance. Yeah. An impact.

Miami's so solid across the board. I don't care if you like them. I don't care if you don't. You can't deny that they all have their own unique charm and it factor. All of them. Larsa brings something very specific to the show that I'm here for, actually. Oh, yeah. She brings a very interesting, like, desire to go against taboo.

Like, she, like, any conversation that's taboo or, like, death or mortality, she's going to, she's got to rub up against it. And I'm like, it's kind of funny, you know? Yeah. And she does have like a certain Miami feel that other women don't have, which I find interesting. But point being, when a cast has a really unique core of characters, it can be hard to penetrate that. But Stephanie is doing her thing. I mean, she's showing up and showing out.

She really is. But you know what with the Housewives fandom, you can never win. You can never win. If you come in and you try and you try to make it happen, they go, you're trying too hard. If you come in and you don't do enough, what are you even doing there? It's a flop. So it's like, it's kind of hard. You're kind of destined to fail when you're.

a new one joining a group of girls that have been there for a while. Yeah, I want to, I want to back up a little bit. Back it, back it up. You better back it up quick as I'll play that game. Fool. Take me to, when I, when I meet someone. When I meet someone new in this, in this space, I always want to find out what their first Bravo love was, what your Bravo origin story.

What was the show that kind of got you into this? Well, the origin, the first show that I even sort of just like got an awareness of it was Beverly Hills, you're such a fucking liar, Camille. That moment, I remember being like, who are these people? She's pernicious. Prenicious. That whole thing, I remember seeing it, but it didn't penetrate my psyche.

Yeah. When it really started to make an impact and literally changed my DNA, was actually season seven of New York. Okay. When I saw that trailer and Durinda said, you made me look like an ass, don't do that shit.

I said, I'm going to watch this show for the rest of my life. I'm going to watch the show for the rest of my life. When she looked at John Medesian and said, you bring her my daughter one more time, I'm a review new fucking ass, you got it?

I said, I have been changed for good. So New York, I think OG New York really did the work to rewire me. That was my entry point as well. That like first, that first chunk of New York when it was still when it was still on period. Can you believe that, how crazy that is?

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what to, I don't even know what to say about it. It's such a bummer that it didn't work. I think that had a lot of potential. potential. I think, you know. Yeah. I was just talking about this with somebody the other week that it feels like we've sort of missed some kind of moment where it's like we don't really hear from Zonia much anymore. Yeah. Luann seems she's off doing her thing. I don't know if she like wants to be a housewife anymore. I think they all kind of want to be having fun and I don't know if they want to be doing the housewives. Right. You know, but I think they kind of want to do like an ultimate girl's trip. Let's film for a week and a half. Let's have fun. And I think they all kind of want to do. I think everyone wants it. Yeah. And I'm, and that very, I don't know, I don't know if a small percentage, maybe it's larger. Maybe people don't want to admit it, but I, I, I, I, I want Ramona back. You, so you have a very compelling Ramona singer impression that you do. I know you're,

you've been in contact with Ramona. I can't say too much, but we, what, what has it been like for you? We're dating. This is, I wanted to let everyone know. Where's my camera. Ramona and I were, you know what? It is kind of crazy. Ramona. You know what we're going steady. Ramona like has a boyfriend now. And I feel like we've never seen her actually date on the show. Like she would have, she would be like leaving somewhere to go on a day or alluding to somebody she's been seeing.

But I'm like, I don't know what it would look like for Ramona to like. She was very in love with Mario. So I feel like she's probably not a bad partner. Yeah. To be honest. Like she looks like she grew up in a generation of like, you know, really take care of the household. Like she was, I mean, she kind of juggled at all.

And for whatever it's worth, Avery. seems so cool and normal and like successful and working like you know I think she was probably a great wife and great mom you know I know she's kind of bonkers but I think she was probably a great wife and a great mom I have to that's my opinion and actually for whatever it's worth I think most of the housewives are really good moms like there's very few clips I mean sometimes the kids are terrors but the actual moms themselves like you see them cooking and talking to them and I don't know they all seem pretty like they seem like good moms I agree that's usually that usually feels like the least, the least of their problems.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, as parents, they all seem, and all their kids seem to really love, like, they're good. All the parents, you know, yeah, they seem pretty tight. So with, with your impression skills, what was your first foray into the, the Bravo world?

Like, when did you, when did you, like, click into something and you were like, okay, I, I got this? Well, I had been impersonating my whole life, so I always knew I could do it. But I would slip into voices of, like, our drama high school, our high school drama teachers with my friends.

And I was always known for my impersonations. I would impersonate the teachers at pep rallies. Like, I was like the impersonator of whatever. So I would slip into Meredith and Mary and Ramona. And finally, my friend Brian was like, you're so good at this. And you've been wanting to get back. You know, I'm an actor and I want to get back in the industry. Go on TikTok.

And I resisted it. And I said, okay, I'll do Salt Lake City. I feel pretty good about Meredith and Mary. Let me do that. And then one video did okay. And then I did another video of New York as like the real housewives of New York as therapist. And that did okay. And then I was running late.

A date, I was on a way to a first date and it was, they were running late. So my friend said, just do a video of the Salt Lake City opening Christmas gifts. And that was it. Quite frankly, Seth, I am disappointed, but I can't say that I'm surprised. You got me a book, really? Like, you think I'm going to sit down and read this book? Over it, like, in one day got like 50,000 likes, which if you've never gotten a lot of likes, that feels like, I was like, at the first date, getting notifications, like, it was shocking.

And, like, you haven't realized that you need to turn off your notifications yet. Exactly. So it's like your phone. literally just hot in your hand. Completely. And it's awesome because I'm an actor. So to have my acting skills be lauded in that way was so gratifying and fulfilling. And I hadn't worked in a while.

It was creatively. Like I've been coaching actors for a long time. Yeah. So the houseways reignited my love for acting, really. Yeah. And so yeah, that's kind of what I did. And now I obviously I do Miami. I do Beverly Hills.

I do O.C. So I was going to tell you, I think the first video I saw of yours was Marisol and Alexia investigating a crime. Yeah. Yeah, I remember something like, it smells like blood in here. I can't. I can't. It smells like blood.

I'm sorry. You know what? I'm going to need like a ginger ale or with tequila. I can't. It smells like blood in here. It's so, yeah. Just putting them in these situations that they would never be in. You know?

It's like so stupid, but in the best way. Well, I think that we only see them like at McMansions or mansions and yacht. So I'm like, what is Mary Cosby as a TSA agent? Like in a different life Put it in the bin Put it in the bin His laptops out Shoes off

Like I need that all the time And since Bravo's not giving it to me I'm gonna do it Imagine if Mary Cosby Had to be like Seeing people's bare feet all day At USA I mean I would

I pay money And if you want I'll do it for free On my TikTok Maybe that'll be the next one Mary Cosby is a nail technician That's talons You've got talents babe

That's not cute I do don't Don't ever go to the beach So when was the first, do you remember the first time that somebody that you were doing an impression of reacted in a way that you could see to one of your videos? Mary Cosby. Okay. I did Salt Lake City as a compilation and then Mary, I started doing Mary Cosby, like singular Mary Cosby videos. And then Mary Cosby 4,7, 9, or something like me on TikTok.

And I was like, this has to be a fan account. And I went on and I was like, no, this looks like her edits on Instagram. And then all of a sudden she liked one video, two minutes later, I liked another video, too much. Then she liked, I guess she discovered me. And liked eight videos of mine. Here's the best part, Dylan. That same week, the episode where she says, I don't love people. Like, I don't say I love you or something.

You remember that episode where she was telling Angie, I don't say I love you to people? That same week, that episode was airing, she commented on one of my acting coaching videos and she wrote, I love you. And I was like, baby Jesus in the manger, I have seen what you have done for people and you have done it on me because that was the best like like stamp of approval really I mean right and it was at that point like that probably was you were still kind of like finding this yeah lane so it probably was like a really good you know vote of confidence of like oh yeah keep doing this that's exactly right it felt like okay I'm on the right track and also when you're impersonating I don't think any of my impersonations are mean I'm not a gossip columnist I don't work for a gossip page I'm a

comedian so if you feel and I don't want I don't believe in punching down or making people feel badly. So if they're not enjoying it, then it's not worth it for me. My whole thing is let's have a good time. Let's have a couple Coke zeros of Joe Zarin and chill, right? So if we're not laughing, then it's not working. So Mary finding it funny was what I needed to know to continue doing what I was doing. Yeah. And obviously, like, some of these people have more of a sense of humor than others. Not everybody's going to be like in the comments saying they love you. But like at the end of the day, it's like, it's not that serious. It's not that serious. And also, I mean, luckily I'm not, I don't make, I really don't think I'm making fun of any of it.

I mean, I'm just impersonating them. And I also, I get a sliver of them. Like, I do angles of them. I can't possibly impersonate Marisol in her fullness. She's a very interesting, educated, full woman who had a full professional life before she started the housewives. She had a PR business. Obviously, I do her with the cocky because that's just, I do the version of her in the confessinals. Right.

I do Alexia when she's about to tell you what time of day it is. And you know what at the end of the day? Obviously, there's moments where Alex is super sweet and warm and funny. I don't want to impersonate that. I want to impersonate her when she's about to tell you. Oh yeah. slander, slander! That's what I want to do. Mary Cosby has really cute, charming, fun moments. I want to do her when she's at her wits end. Yeah. You know? I was telling Meredith

last night. I was like my favorite. And Seth Marks. Oh, and he's so nice, by the way. Seth is very nice. The whole family is gorgeous, kind, sweet. Like, the marks, I need keeping up with the marks. For real. Next-Jyc was a little bit keeping up with the marks. But I want more marks. I want more marks. I want to keep up with them more. And I like that they're laid back. Like, everyone's obsessed with chaos and I'm like, why can't we watch normal people just doing shit? Yeah. Yeah, I want them to do normal people, normal fabulous people doing shit. I call Meredith Hawaii time. She's on Hawaii time. She's very low, low frequency. She's like, she's just chilling and she's like, yeah, and then what's it called? Seth is

rocking and rolling. But I told them that I like to do Meredith when she's about to go to trial. Quite frankly, on Tuesday, you didn't tell me that. So, like, she's about to tell you. And when I did it for Seth, he goes, you're giving me PTSD. She's got all her like evidence in order From the deposition Just really that's interesting that you'd say that Because when I called you last June She remembers

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Visit red bull.com slash bright summer ahead to learn more. See you this summer. You know, it's so funny going back to Mary Cosby. We can always go back to Mary Cosby. I'm happy you got the stamp of approval because my ass has been blocked since before season one even premiered. No. Why?

I will never know. I could never tell you. But Mary Cosby? Literally on Instagram, the Bravo by Betches account has been blocked by Mary Cosby since 2012. Oh, no. It is so, it's just so funny to me because, like, who even knows? So she won't see this interview.

I'm praising her. She won't ever even see it. She'll, somebody will send it to her. Someone on Mary's team, please let her know I love her. And that you want to apologize? This is your chance. You know, the only time. I don't know.

I mean, Mary Cosby actually is the only real housewife of salt. Maybe there is beef. She's the only Salt Lake City Housewife who has not sat in this room and been on this podcast, the only one. And the, baby gorgeous. has been here? Yes. Oh my God.

I love that. The closest I have been to, I love that. The closest I've been to Mary Cosby was last year they did this collab with Van Lewin ice cream for Salt Lake City. And they had this event at the Van Luen store

in Rockefeller Center where they decorated it. It was beautiful in that store. It was that like Salt Lake City shade of purple. Yeah, yeah. It's really nice. Quotes and snowflakes and everything. And they had Bronwyn, Angie and Mary their

scooping ice cream. Amazing. Mary's in her reflective aviator sunglasses looking like Latoya Jackson with the pin straight

hair. Bronwyn had the the Judith Lieber like ice cream cone bag, of course. Amazing. By the way, can we talk about

Bronwyn? Talk about it. What a gift. I mean, it's like every 10 years a housewife comes along that changes the game. There's no one like her.

I can't, give me one other housewife that has. has that unique of a storyline, personal style, and it's authentic. Because people have dressed weird all the time to get attention. Bronwyn is everything. I'm like, I remember, you want to talk about the moment where, like, there's always one moment where I realize I'm in love with someone.

When she said other people dress to be sexy, I realize I look like a Tim Burton character. I was like, that's the greatest fucking thing I've ever heard in my entire life. And it's actually given me, this sounds so cheesy, inspiration to be a little weird over my clothes. I'm like, I don't need to dress to be fucking sexy. I'd rather look like a Tim Burden character. Not today. It looked like a fucking regular guy.

But other times I'm like, I want to do my Bronwyn-Newport Tim Burton character. No, it's, I mean, obviously she does it at a different tax bracket. Mosquino level, yeah. But it's fun to watch somebody just like fully just be their own vibe. Yes. And like she doesn't give a fuck. She's like showing up the airport in the hot dog costume because she thinks it's funny. And you know what?

I think as a Thespian, as a kid who grew up in the drama club, I think she would be that girl in a drama club that would do the same thing. Like, I don't think that she's doing it necessarily because she can do it at that level. I think she's the girl that would show up to a slumber party and make us wear, like, you know, dolphin outfits for fun. And, like, she's a fun person. Yeah. I think she's fucking hilarious. And she's great on the show.

And by the way, super nice. I haven't met her in person yet, but we've DM'd and she's been so complimentary of my talent. Like, she's just really great. Yeah. I also think, like, coming into that season of Salt Lake City that she did, they were also shell-shocked from Monica, the prior season that she's. that she, it was kind of a, a tough season to break into that group and both, I mean, she, Brittany also like, did, they both did a good job of kind of like, Britney, really making, you know, they have their own vibes, establishing themselves.

Brittany also marches to the beat of her own drums. She's on TikTok singing every day. But, you know, I think Brittany is great for the show because the show is a comedy. Salt Lake City is a comedy. Yes. And Brittany Bateman is in Arrested Development or whatever offbeat, single cam she's in. And when you, when I hear Brittany Bateman, I hear Mary Cosby. Like, I laugh at the thought of Britney Bateman because I laugh and when she's like, when Mary

Cosby said, you need to figure out why your kids don't talk to you. She goes, rude. Like, and then Lisa Barlow says, that's too, that's too low. That's too low. Mary Cosby goes, not low enough. Brittany, I think was like, there is sometimes something like kind of wonderful when somebody doesn't quite realize what they got themselves into. Oh, yeah. That it's like Brittany had a lot of, like, her skeletons weren't even really in the closet. They were kind of like right out there on the rack. When she was propping them up, she was like, look at this stuff I've got going on.

It's like I'm dating this guy, but kind of not. And then there's another guy. Also, my kids don't speak to, like, there was a lot really. And I feel badly for her actually. Out front for her. Yeah, she put it out there and I did feel badly for her because that's hard. I can only imagine your, you know, but it was interesting to see it play out. But, you know, when you go on a show like that, you got to really commit to this is what we're doing here.

Yeah. It does. Yeah. And especially now, like 15 years ago, maybe it was a little more understandable that somebody would be like, oh, what's this show? It's glamorous. I'm going to get attention. You know, maybe help my career a little bit. Now it's like, you're fully aware of what housewives is.

Yeah, yeah. And I think that the trick to being a great housewife, because people ask me that all the time, like, what do you think is your favorite house or whatever or what makes a good housewife? I think what makes a good housewife is if you're unafraid to be yourself, that helps, which Brittany. is unafraid to be herself. And you got to just be honest. Because look at Shannon Badoor. The power of the Badoor.

She has succeeded and done so well because she's honest. And she cries all the time. No, but really, she's, I mean, when she lifted her shirt up and grabbed her stomach and said, I don't recognize this person. People can relate to that, looking at themselves in the mirror and being like, I don't know who that person is. That's such a beautiful, vulnerable moment that despite how annoying you might have found her in other seasons, that moment humanizes her. And I mean, I was so, I just leaned in so much for it. So if you're just honest and you're real and you lean into the fact that there are cameras and they are hearing everything and seeing everything and you just commit to being authentic, there's pretty much no way you can lose, I think. Yeah.

And I mean, last season on OC, I was impressed with Shannon because she was coming off of the DUI, the accident, the breakup, all of that. And like, it could have been, I mean, it was a hard time in her life. but it ended up being one of her best seasons on the show because she was able to kind of put it all out there and sort of own the fact that she had gone through this horrible thing and had shit to work on and was kind of a mess and also Alexis kind of didn't help her case

No Alexis helped her case even more Alexis helped Shannon's case I think Alexis was the greatest thing that could happen to Shannon And so it was so interesting because like Shannon didn't necessarily have like an easy season but she had a really positive season from a perspective of like, oh, she really is like an important piece of this show.

Yeah, she is. And I think Alexis did the best. I mean, it was, Shannon would have had a harder season without her. I'll tell you that right now. Oh, yeah. Because Alexis was so committed to being this person that it gave Shannon the chance to just, Alexis took out the math for us and did it for us.

And like you said, it's an important part of being in the show. So is Tamara. I don't, I cannot, maybe I, because I watch the show from an entertainer porn view and a comedian point of view, there's no reality where Tamara's not on the housewives to me. There isn't. I don't want to watch the OC without Tamara. I think she's great television. I think she's funny.

And as a person who I find myself to be funny and I like funny people, I like funny people. She's funny. And also, here's one thing I don't think anyone has been talking about because everyone's been so, like, the therapy is so, I'm like, you know what? If she has been behaving badly and has been so angry, which, yeah, I don't agree with everything Tamara's done,

if we've shown all of that, we deserve to see her unpeel the layers to what's underneath that. We do deserve that because if she has been overreacting and lashing out, then let's sit with her while she figures out what that means because anger is a secondary emotion.

It always represents something deeper. So if she has been that angry, anger is fear pretending to be powerful. So I want to see what's underneath Tamara's anger. I want to see what she actually is afraid of. I want to see the more vulnerable parts of her because we've been getting the edit that's very specific, which makes for great television, so I'm not complaining.

Yeah. But like, I want to be in the therapist office with her more often. I want to sit next her. I want her to be right here. And then we can both talk like Tamara. Like bring her to the red table. Yeah, I will be Jada Pinkett and she will be at the red table. But do you get what I'm saying, though, about Tamara?

I feel like something that's frustrated me a little bit from, from others in that cast is like, you don't have to believe right off the bat that Tamara is a new person and has changed and will never hurt you again. but like give her a little bit of time to like try. Yeah. And by the way, because there is a little bit of that like, she's going to therapy what she's going to change Tamara, Judge. And it's like, I mean, she might. And by the way, she has, because this season she has, this is child's play.

Tamara is on her best behavior this season. If you're going to tell me the way that she spoke to Jen at that dinner was Tamara, that's Tamara's twin sister. She was benign. That's Tammy Sue. That's Tammy. Yeah, yeah. That was nothing.

Tamara is on her best behavior. I'm like, has everyone had gotten amnesia? Tamara's on her best behavior this season so far with Gretchen. That first dinner or... Yeah. Okay, evil. That was Tamara internalizing and withholding. So I already see a difference.

I do feel that with Gretchen that it's like if Tamara wanted to like send the ballistic missiles to Gretchen-Rawks's house. Yeah. So when people say Tamara hasn't changed, I'm like, actually the change is there. Let's go back a couple seasons. One, Tamara was relentless with Shannon last year. And this year she is being very, I notice it. And I guess because I study human behavior, I see her like containing herself. She's like, and I'm like, there is like she's not having it, but she's not letting these people get the brunt of it.

So I don't know. I'm interested in the Tamara redemption arc. I'm interested in seeing the therapy journey. I want more. Yeah. I think Tamara also falls into that category you were talking about before of like you kind of can't win a little bit sometimes where it's like if she's being her messy self. creating storyline, spreading rumors, all of that stuff that maybe you could say we need on the show. She's evil and messy and, you know, a horrible friend and all of that.

But if she wasn't doing any of that, then you would say why she's still here, she's boring. You never win. Yeah. Housewives fans, I think, are like pretty, like, you can't win with them. Yeah. So it's like, well, what do you want? You know, I think that's why I think I'm in the elite group of Housewives fan, which is I like everything. Yeah.

I like everything. I like every housewife. Even the Housewives they don't like, I like them. Because I know that they're important to the show. Even the storylines I don't like, I mean, that's probably the only thing. I'm like certain boring storylines I get up with that. Like an OC right now, the blogger thing. It's too much.

I also think like I feel bad for the girl that got light on. That's, I feel badly for her because content creators and bloggers don't want to, they don't want to be interacting with people then to get light on. That's not cool. It's become over the past few years, I think they've gotten more okay with bringing those types of being meta. Yes, bringing that onto the show in front of the camera. a little bit more because we've seen it now on a few different franchises.

And like, sometimes it makes sense to be brought up and it can be relevant or whatever. But sometimes it's just like, can you guys fight about like wearing the same outfit or? Yeah. But then that's the other thing is that some people hate petty arguments and some audiences love petty arguments. I like a petty argument because life is hard enough as it is.

So if we're either going to go deep or whatever, but I can do an argument over cheese. I can. The only thing is I'm spoiled by Miami and New York. OG New York went through 20 arguments in one episode. Miami moves, man. And if you're not, like, I'm used to that. So, and obviously I'm high speed.

So I'm like, let's keep this moving. Beverly Hills, that's why I can't, I don't, I like, I like, I like, I like, Beverly Hills. I watch every season, but I can't with Pantygate lasted like nine episodes. It's a different frequency. And even like the, the Kyle and Dereet stuff. I got to put a Marisaw here. Sorry, just I got to be like, I can't do Pantygate any longer.

I can't have, I need a cocky. The Panty Gate lasted forever. I'm like. Yeah, even the Doreet and Kyle stuff last season, it was like, okay, we're 12 episodes in. And we're having the same conversation in nine variations. I cannot do this. Yeah. To quote the prophet, Ramona Singer, I can't, I can't, I can't.

I can't. I'm like, we need to move on. So at least in O.C, they're starting to move on from the blogger thing, thank the Lord. And I'm into the whole season, though. I really am like the continued use of the phrase fatty photo. Well, I don't like that. Oh, I think it's hilarious. Okay.

I don't know. I don't think it's very, I mean, I guess no one's watching the Housewives for kindness and morality. But I'm like, I think it's like a phrase that's like, well, yes. Yeah, I'm a little like. But one of my favorite like little, little like ticks on Housewives is when the, somebody will use like a specific phrase to refer to something. And then that becomes adopted by the rest of the cast. Yeah.

The last season of Jersey, there was this drama with somebody's hair girl. and then suddenly it was like we were using the phrase hair girl like 55 times you like phrases yeah right or like

back in the day red scarf guy red scarf guy on New York on Vanderpump rules back of the day when they the whole thing was

did Kristen bang jacks she banged jacks yeah yeah yeah when did you bang jacks yes or yeah yeah it's like two or three words that become like

staples in the conversation it's like nobody's saying did you sleep with him nobody's saying did you have sex it's like did you bang him yeah

what are you thinking about a Vanderpump in her new show by the way I've never seen episode of Vanderpump Rules or the Valley. I've never seen anything outside of Housewives, but what do you think? So you're like a Housewives devotee.

Totally. But are you just not, do you feel like you have enough in your cup from Housewives that you just aren't interested? Or what's... You know, the comical thing is that I've just always been friends with older women. Like, most of my life I've just been friends when I was like 20 years old. I had friends in their 40s and 50s that were beautiful women. Like, I've been hanging out with real Housewife type women my whole life.

I've always had a deep appreciation for older women. So that's just where I lean into naturally. like 30 year old people being messy. It's a little too commonplace in L.A. in Miami in New York. I'm like, boring. So I'm like,

I grew up, listen, I was born and raised in Miami. Okay. Chaos and drunken fights and all. I'm like, what else is going on? Yeah,

it's like, all right, darling. You know, it's like, so I think the housewives gives me something it's a little bit more escapism. Yeah.

Whereas, but Vanderpump rules the reboot. It should be fun. I mean, that's, I might see that. I might check into that. Okay.

Because I know someone who's joining the thing. Yeah. I've started to get little like bits and pieces. I'm always, I mean, kind of like you say you like everything. It's like I'm, I always try to be optimistic and then I hope that they prove me right. Wait, so then if I were to watch one non-housewife show because I've never, you know, what would it be? One non-housewife show. I started watching a Love Hotel, but that's housewives.

That doesn't count. Yeah. And also it's like six episodes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, those OG Vanderpump seasons are pretty legendary. There's some, I mean, there's some Southern. and charm seasons that are really crazy.

I heard Patricia's a great character for me. I haven't seen it. Oh, everyone says that to get a kick out of her. You would get a kick out of Miss Patricia. You know, I was like a butler? Yeah, yeah. It really depends because I think for me,

like I also am like a housewives first and foremost, but I think like you sort of start to pick up, it's like you pick up a little bit here, like Vanderpump feeds into Summerhouse a little bit and they, Southern Charm feeds into that. And there's a lot of kind of, overlap. Actually, you know, Southern Hospitality. Would be fun?

Might be fun because they've had a few seasons and it's very, very messy. Okay. But that cast has a lot of characters. Oh, I was about to say, I need eccentric characters. I need people that are, that has like mascara tears. Okay. Yeah, so we got some real theatrics. There's gay people on it, which is, you know, you can't say for every show on Bravo.

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What is, like, what do you feel like they get right about Miami? Well, Miami is, does have a lot of people from a lot of different cultures and backgrounds. So, you know, having the Gertie, the Julie, the Kiki, the Alexia, Marisol being half wasp and half Cuban, that's more common than people think, you know. So I think on a multicultural level, it's pretty spot on. I think that Miami is a place of extreme luxury. It really is, you mean, you know. And what's kind of cool and funny about Miami is that people with extreme luxury can still kind of, you know,

commingle with people that aren't because of the restaurants and the malls. I mean, not everyone's, it's like on the Upper East Side, you're only on the Upper East Side at Bergdorf's if you're buying $300 socks. You know, you're not,

a regular person isn't really there. But as Miami, it's more mixed. So we've seen all kinds of wealth growing up, you know, around us, even if we weren't at those exact parties. But I think that the,

they get the flavor right. The flavor of Marisone, Alexia is so delicious. I was just at dinner with Alexia last night. I was telling her, living in Lelay now, it's just not the same, not being from Miami because there's a flavor and a hug and a thing and we talk and it's a whole thing.

So seeing that warmth and that fire on TV feels so good. And I don't think any other show has that same. Atlanta has that same yumminess. When the girls would kiki and they would laugh and they'd like play and laugh, that was really fun. And you can feel that there's like a real like community vibe to it that it's like these people might not all be the same. But they all really like make sense in the same world. Yes, they're in the same world. And that's what I find funny.

Like this whole team Julia Gertie thing is getting very complicated. And people are saying that they're icing Gertie. I don't see it that way because I think they like Gertie. They actually like Gertie. I don't think it's a thing of that they dislike Gertie. I don't see that at all. I think it's just a situation got complicated. And by the end of it, it got so escalated that it was like, you know, but I don't see

them as disliking Gertie. If that's how she feels, I can't negate that, obviously. But, I mean, they've had great seasons with her beforehand. And there was never anything that really looked like that up until this season, right? Am I mistaken? Yeah. I mean, I think like last season, Gertie had a good, I mean, obviously she was going through a lot with her health stuff. But they seemed like they supported her and they were there for her.

I think she got a lot of support because she was going through something that necessitated that. And really also like Larsa kind of screwed the pooch with how she handled that information. So Gertie was like an easy hero. Again, Larsa, Larsa's ability to confront any stuff. sensitive topic with very little care is fucking hilarious to watch. It's horrible to live through. But again, I watch a show as an entertain.

I always say Miami is a cast that is very loud and wrong a lot of the time. And that's good. It's good TV. I mean, I don't know. I guess I'm from Miami. So it doesn't seem that wrong to me. But like when Alexia,

that quote that she gave where she was like, I don't need the receipt. It's from my heart. It's in my head in my heart. Oh my God. Well, that's, I mean, it's like that's perfection.

And you know what? It's great for two reasons. Because one could. look at it is all I need to do is connect to my intuition and my gut and my heart. So I don't care about what's on paper. I'm going with what I feel. That could be a version of it. I'm going with my gun instinct. And another version could be screw it, fuck it, dismiss it. And I like, yeah, yeah, oh my God. I was telling her last night, oh, God. I was like, Alexia, do you understand that I drive and I hear slander, slander? I laugh my ass off at slander, slander. That's my new safe word.

I really, I really, Joe knows this. My favorite thing is. For a favor of apologize. Julie going, is Larsa. Oh my God. See, who can beat Miami right now? When people tell me they don't watch Miami, I'm like, how can you tell me you're a real housewife fan? And you're not watching a show that's combining comedy, drama, tragedy,

it's Shakespearean. Larsa and Lisa in the sprinter van, staring at each other. In Milan. And Jody just like, and then the, that's, that's Macbeth. in my opinion. Larsa's poor son who's like, I just booked a modeling gig. I'm just here to work. I would like it to be about me for about two seconds. Just a little bit. Yeah. But I love it. So Miami, I tell everyone, if you're not watching, you got to watch. I agree. And those are the girls, those are the babies. I can't wait to hang out with them at BravoCon. I'm going to BravoCon this year. I'm going to

BravoCon. Is it your first time? It's my first time. And yeah, so hopefully, I don't know if I'm doing anything quite yet, but I know I'll be there, and I'm, I'm pitching myself because I don't, you know, I want to, I don't want to just walk around. Is there, is there anyone that you don't care to me or that you would be like a little, like, I want to keep that? I feel pretty good about my impersonation. So like, in terms of not being mean, so I think no one's going to be like weird about it. Um, there's only one person I haven't given a fair shake. Okay. And I would like to publicly apologize, but I have a reasoning for it. So I'm glad you brought that up. Whitney from Salt Lake City. In my impersonations, I have made Whitney sound very slow.

but it's really in comparison to the other women. Because if Whitney were on another show, she wouldn't sound as slow in my head. Yes. But when you've got Lisa Barlow, who's nonstop, and then Mary Cosby is going a thousand miles per hour, and Heather Gay that's with it,

and Bronwyn's that's with it, and Meredith that's like laying out the law. And then you get Whitney. It sounds like New York, New York, New York, L.A., right? It's like, it's a pacing to me. So when I've impersonated Whitney, I've made her sound slow. And I don't actually think she's slow.

But so I'm being serious. There's no shade there. I'm being genuine. She just, but I've, of course, because I'm a comedian, I have exaggerated. So I go like this when I do her. And I don't think that's fair because I don't think she actually. Lisa, why do you? Yeah.

So, but then you compare her to like when Meredith is cranking up and Mary Cosby and Lisa Barlow and Heather. It's hard to get in there. Yeah. And you know who I haven't mastered yet? And I'm so sad about that is Angie Kay. Andrew is. I haven't in person. I can't do.

I can't, I can't find her. She's kind of one of. kind. She is and she's got like a raspy voice and she kind of moves her head a little bit. But I can't, I can't. She looks like a mother. She's a pillar of the community. By the way, you want to talk about a housewife that at first I was like, okay. And then I'm like, this is a gift from Zeus. She, the Greek god of Zeus. She turned that ship around in a way that very few have been able to do. The comic. She went from flop to gay icon in like 12 minutes. And how great was that argument of you were a dancer in her video?

I was not the backup. Well, you were backup in her. I mean, I needed that to go on two episodes. Mm-hmm. Her saying that she's not a backup dancer, she's the star. It is crazy because it's like you say Beverly Hills, like they move so slow. And it's like there are some shows where it's like, I would have loved to hear about that for another 12 minutes. Like, yeah, yeah, there's certain really good.

Yeah, but we get so used to how quickly they move that we lose out on some of those juicy moments. But then we're on Panty Gate for nine seasons. Well, you know, we'll see what they're given this year. What are you thinking about Beverly Hills this year? I haven't been thinking about it much, got to say. Okay. You know, I feel really badly for Kyle. I know that I kind of want to see something new in terms of entertainment, but I do feel

for her because she looked like she genuinely loved Maricio and he looked like he genuinely loved her. Yeah, she seems like she needs a little shot of something. Like she's... I'm hoping this season they bring her a strong ally that rejuvenates her or something because it was hard to watch her. have the same kind of conversation. A little bit like checked out.

You know Shannon Bador feels that way this season. Maybe. Shannon Bador looks like not physically tired. She just looks like she's not doing, she doesn't want to do it. She's like, yeah, and like Katie with the record. Like she looks like she just doesn't want to be there. She's having fun with her parade of Love Hotel boys. Yeah, neck up.

I'm like, yeah, so when the house I start to feel, when they start to look like they're just, like they're suffering too much, it kind of takes out the fun for me, I guess. And you can come back from that. Yeah, it takes one person. It takes one friend. It takes one Tamara judge to, you know, think where she doesn't want her to do. I'm a Tamara stand. I know.

I have no problem. Okay, no, I know. I just, I, I, I'm like, I'm aware, like, I don't know. And by the way, for whatever it's worth, I was a Tamara stand before she even started commenting on my stuff and liking myself. I've been, I've been, I mean, Tamara will, Tamara lives in a DM section. Like, she's, no, no, no, but we don't talk like that. Like, she just, like, right, right, right.

What I will say about the housewives that is that. I've experienced so far is obviously none of them, like I'm not a page six person. So I, they can't ask me to do anything. I'm a comedian. But they've all been really complimentary. It's not like, oh, do me or can you do this? Yeah. They've just been like, you're so talented. And that goes a long way. Can you do a video where you make Katie look bad? Yeah, yeah, exactly. No one's done that. I'm like, I mean, like, can you do a video where you imply that maybe she's talk to a blogger? You're going to start getting, yeah. It's like, okay, so here's the script I wrote it for you. I've gotten some requests from some people that I haven't done yet because I'm like, you know, you've got a lot of material to work through. Yeah. And when Salt Lake City comes back, baby, you're going to be fed. Forget about it. Big Meg is going to take care of you. You're going to eat today. Mary Cosby, I can't wait. BravoCon. I want a Mary Cosby and I like, you know, reunion. It's a reunion because of the minds. Completely. We know each other from a different lifetime. So it's all about like, baby. Bring it in. Baby.

Yeah. And I kind of wanted me Doreet. She used to like some of my videos. She never commented, but she used to like some of my videos. So she's cool with my Doreet. I do the Doreet that's like absolutely leaning in. Yeah. That's it, baby. I only do that version of her.

I do love the version of her where she's on one. That's what I need to start doing. It's when she's going to absolutely tell you. That I should start playing with. But I just, when she kind of, her and Bose, the lesbian love affair of Doreet and Bose. They're obviously not lesbians. But you know what I'm saying?

like it's like there's a romantic thing about them. And I totally get that because there are certain friends that you have that. It's like a romantic platonic friendship. We're like, I just love you and I adore you. And I thought that was sweet. I actually believed it. Some people didn't believe it, but I believe it. My favorite, the most recent to read thing that I saw that just tickles me is when she's like,

a Coca-Cola normal. And by the way, an comparisora. They bug her so much about that. But guess what? When you go to other countries, they appreciate it when you talk in their language or when you at least try. They appreciate it because they're not just like some American being like, I have a Diet Coke, thanks. So it's like, I'm trying at least to meet you halfway. So she's a child of the world.

She's a child of the world. I think they just like making fun of her because she makes it easy. She makes it easy maybe. But I mean, I don't know. You know, when I've traveled and you try even and you mess up and you go, yeah, it's okay. No, I mean, that's me like speaking Spanish. Yeah.

You got to try. It's cute. You know, and some people really, most countries, they appreciate a, you know, a tourist trying to. Yeah. And I just, I mean, I don't know, I find, again, Doreita's comedic gold to me. And I thought she had a really strong season last season. She did. I thought she was, and again, she was benign too.

She really held back on sudden. Yes. I can see when the ladies are deciding to not go there. Yeah. I mean, poor girls going through a divorce and there's two kids under the age of like 12 or whatever. I mean, you know, you know. Yeah, we don't know where the money's at. It's a tough situation, you know.

So, and listen, you know, when you actually, I'm a child of divorce, I get how difficult it is. So there's certain storylines that when you see, you kind of go, you know. And maybe why I get Tamara in some weird ways. because is that I have, I'm not, I don't go to sad as my first emotion. I always go to frustration or anger. So I, not that I get Tamara, but I kind of get Tamara. Like, if you're a person that cries before you yell, you won't get her.

Right. You know? But if you're a person who's always had to be strong and has always had to fight and has always had to be independent, you understand where that comes from. The defense mechanism. Let me hurt you before you hurt me, you know? So, yeah, sorry. It seems like I'm being paid by Tamara.

I'm not. And if I were, I'd be in a much more, I'd be in like a good. Gucci track suit. If I come back here, at BravoCon, if I'm in a Gucci track suit, a housewife has sponsored me to be nice about them. Mind you, I'm not even, you're the only podcast I've been on. I'm probably the only podcast I'm going on because I'm afraid. What if people start saying crazy things about me in the comments?

Like, he's a housewife. Oh, someone wrote me that on my DMs. Oh, yeah. You're like, you're a housewife hanger on. You want to be a house. I'm like, I don't want to be a housewife, but I am obsessed with them. So if the cool ones want to hang out and I'm going to hang out. That comes with the territory.

Oh, yeah. No, I'm okay with that. If you haven't been accused of being in the pocket of, like, I don't know, big Melissa Gorga or whatever. Listen, you think I'm this good at Mary Cosby because I hate her? Because you didn't watch the show? Because I didn't watch the show. You think that I have captured Ramona's micromanorisms because I can't stand her? No.

It's like, you know, to quote the prophet Ramona, I wish you had a brain or two. Well, this has been so fun. Thank you. It's been so much fun. I can't wait to see you at BravoCon. Well, tell everyone where they can find you and check out your videos and everything. On Instagram, I'm at the Miguel Luciano. TikTok, I think it's Miguel underscore Luciano.

Just search at Miguel Mary Cosby, and I'm sure. We'll pop up, secret lovers. And yeah, and thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here. This is great. Thanks, Miguel. Thanks, everyone for watching. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe.

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