Mention It All - NeNe Has Beef With Kim Kardashian

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Dylan sits down for a solo episode, and it’s time for a Mention It All Mailbag. He starts with a breakdown of NeNe Leakes’ recent interview with Carlos King, where she weighs a possible RHOA return, and explains why she should’ve had Kim Kardashian’s career. From there, Dylan discusses a possible RHOA reboot, some BravoCon details, and when our favorite shows are coming back. Finally, he unpacks Kyle’s new gig as a… documentary producer? Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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August 2nd If that doesn't give you an indication of where we're at in our summer mindset I think the next 30 or so minutes will It is the dog days of summer right now, but shockingly enough, it is very nice in New York City all of a sudden. I woke up this morning and it was 66 degrees. What I wouldn't give to have just like three solid months of this weather.

But today we have a bunch of different stuff to talk about. We're doing a little bit of grab bag of topics, a mention it all mailbag. I asked for some questions, some hot takes, some things you want to hear about. And so I've got, you know, a handful of things going on. And I think it's going to be a fun little loose episode talking about Bravo and, you know, what more could you want? To get started, though, something that is certainly was brought up in the mention at all mailbag, but it's just happening more broadly in the world right now. Maybe that's an overstatement. But Nini Leaks has been on our friend Carlos King's podcast the last two weeks.

They sat down for a two-part conversation. Nini, Nini, Nini, Nini. this is one of the first times, or certainly the most lengthiest time that she has really sat down and talked about all the stuff that's happened with her, you know, leaving Real Housewives, the lawsuit that she filed against Bravo and Andy Cohen, among other people, which has since been dropped last year. Her potential future on Housewives, kind of a state of Nini's, you know, feelings about all things. Housewives, of course, Carlos King is a great person to have this conversation with, because, he was working on Atlanta all those years ago when Nini was on the show. So they really came up together in a way. But the other thing that I feel like is important to note about this type of conversation and about Carlos's platform is that Carlos loves Nini. And clearly, they have worked together a lot. They've kind of been through a lot together. But this is a platform where Nini Leaks is just going to sit down and say, whatever the hell is,

she wants to say for two-ish hours. And there's going to be very little pushback. There's going to be very little, you know, critical thinking, fact-checking. Just, it's a very friendly place for NeNe to go and kind of just talk her shit. And I don't mean that in a, in a negative way, because I think NeNe is obviously an icon. She's a star. She is one of the, you know, Mount Rushmore of Bravo. Nini's face better be up there. But in 2023, some of the things that she, She, whether she believes them or whether she has just kind of like told herself some of these things, it's, it is a little bit like, girl. Let's reel it in just 10 or so percent. The clip that I'm specifically thinking of from part two, which came out this week, is when Carlos asks her if she feels that she should be bigger than Kim Kardashian.

And she says, absolutely, of course I should be bigger than Kim Kardashian. And the first thing she says, answering this question, is that Housewives was on a year before the Kardashians. And the thing is, everything that she says after that, you know, we'll get into it. But that's just not true. Keeping up with the Kardashians premiered in 2007. And Real Housewives of Atlanta premiered in 2008. I know Nini had filmed, you know, a pilot, a season, whatever, whatever, I guess before Kardashians came on. But, you know, Kardashians clearly had filmed something before their show was on. on the air too. It just is one of those things where it's like right off the bat, we're talking

about a situation that's not fully based in factual reality. And so it makes it hard to take the rest of her points seriously. And I think there are things where Nini has really good arguments or really didn't get the respect that she deserved. But in this case, she talks a lot about how, quote unquote, they were always putting Kim first and giving her opportunities and kind of lifting her up and not affording Nini those same chances. And I guess by they, she means NBC Universal, because at that time, Kardashians was on E and Housewives was on Bravo, and both of those are NBCU brands.

And so, you know, theoretically they're going through a lot of the same channels to get these opportunities. But Nini seems a little bit bitter about the way that Kim's come up kind of evolved. And I think that there are probably some concrete situations where she could have a point here. But one of the things she talks about is that she was at Kim's baby shower for North and that she was there with Kim and Kanye. And she's saying like Kim was front and center and I was held back. And it's like Linethea. You are talking about Kim's own baby shower.

Why the hell would you be front and center at Kim's baby shower? at Kim's baby shower. It doesn't make sense. And it is one of those things where it's like, if you are trying to make this point, you are doing yourself a disservice by using these examples that just don't make sense. She's saying, oh, you know, we had shoe dazzle around the same time. And, you know, Kim's shoe dazzle got all this attention and mine did it. And I'm like, God, we are in the depths of hell if we are arguing about whose 2009 shoe dazzle collab got more promo. There just, there simply must be something better to talk about. So that's, you know, that's one part of the conversation. I think Kim Kardashian is somebody who is obviously a polarizing

figure. I don't have, you know, any like deep seated respect and affection for everything that Kim does. But I think now that we're talking about over the course of 16, 15 plus years of life in the public eye of working of being on TV. Kim has put in a lot of work and strategy and effort and whatever and Chris is certainly a part of that. And Nini's mindset about it still feels kind of stuck in those first couple of years of them both being on reality TV. And she says that, you know, on housewives they didn't have, they weren't allowed to show off, you know, their businesses and stuff that they were working on that much. Whereas on Kardashians, that's all they talk. about and they can they can show whatever they want and it's like sure but keeping up with the

Kardashians was literally a show about that family with their name in it they were the whole product whereas on housewives she has a little bit I hate to make this comparison but she has a little bit of the like jacks taylor teresa syndrome where it's like I think she thinks it was her show and that she should have been able to do whatever she wanted but the problem with that mindset on Housewives is that it is above all an ensemble show. And I think Nini's, you know, position in the Housewives constellation shouldn't be downplayed, but also it's like, right, the producers were always focused on creating an ensemble show that was compelling. Not, okay, like, what does Nini want to talk about this week? We'll just solely talk about that.

Not to mention that they literally, there were like two seasons of Real Housewives of Atlanta that were basically about Nini becoming a star. The whole cast took a trip to L.A. when she was filming the new normal. We saw her doing Cinderella on Broadway. Like, Nini had plenty of opportunities and she was, she did things with those opportunities. And we saw them on the show. But I don't know. I mean, I think there probably are better examples. Maybe she's not doing a great job of, of explaining herself. But going back, we have this lawsuit that happened when she kind of made all these claims a couple years ago about how she had been discriminated against and treated poorly on the show and on Bravo. And there was this lawsuit that now has been dropped. And I think that's a really interesting thing to kind of take a look at

because she now says that she doesn't have hard feelings against Andy and that she would theoretically be open to coming back to Housewives in the future, not in any sort of concrete way, but she just, you know, basically the door is open, I guess. But she does say if she came back, it would be for the fans, not for the check. She said it's, you know, it's a nice check, but I guess she doesn't need it, essentially. So that's the kind of thing where with an interview like this, I do kind of have to wonder, what is the overall goal here for Nini? Does she want to open this door and have this maybe ultimately lead to a Bravo comeback down the line? Maybe in a minute I'm going to talk more about Atlanta in general. So I guess we'll get into that. But like, if a big chunk of this

interview is still her talking about how she wasn't given the things she deserved and how, you know, she was held back from this, that, and the other thing and didn't get the respect she deserved, which are valid things to complain about or to, you know, to bring up, then why are we turning around and saying that the door is open to come back to housewives? It does feel a little bit like trying to have the cake and eat it too, trying to light the house on fire, but then still have your little room stay perfect. I don't know. I think Nini is similar to Bethany in a lot of ways, namely now that she is kind of without the platform that obviously gave her so much, but that she really also helped to build. And that without that platform, maybe it seemed like a really great

idea to leave at the time, but a few years later, it is a little bit like, okay, so what's the next thing? And I don't think Nini has really found the next thing. She's, I mean, she's gone through a lot in that time. Obviously, her husband passed away. One of her sons had a major health scare crisis. You know, she's had this lounge that she's been doing. She's dating again now. There's been a ton that's happened in her life since we've last seen her on Housewives, but it does seem like she clearly still has this desire to be Nini Leaks, you know, star of a generation. And right now, right now she's a star without a home. And I think Bethany is kind of the same way. And it's interesting to watch these women who have given us so much struggle to figure out, it seems, what the,

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That's why you rack. Another question that I got from a bunch of people was, you know, kind of the general state of Real Housewives of Atlanta. I think it's widely agreed that this season hasn't really clicked this question. I'll read directly. Will Atlanta get a reboot? Do you think it needs it? This cast doesn't gel slash seems forced. Yeah. So we're a few weeks into the Roney reboot experience. And I know you guys have mixed feelings. I definitely got some some sentiments on both sides of the coin. I'm not going to talk about Rony a lot today because I feel like we've been talking about and we will continue to.

But I think overall, the broad consensus is that so far the Roney reboot is working. Not everybody likes it, but not everybody liked Roney before. I mean, I can tell you from personal experience in the DMs and seeing what all of you guys have to say, there is no Bravo show that everybody likes all the time. There just is not. The best season of any Housewives show is still going to have people being like, I don't know, Seems forced. I don't know. It's fake. She's annoying. So I think with Roney, it does feel like at least in the short term so far, Bravo is getting what they wanted. They're getting something new. And people are largely embracing it. And so it is really interesting to talk about whether or not this is something that could be, will be, should be implemented with other cities. And with Atlanta being in, I think it's 15th season this year. having maybe not the most successful season ever. It makes sense that this is kind of where people's

eyes are being drawn in terms of what city could have a reboot next. And I think there's a chance. To me, the biggest problem this season is that the drama and the issues that they're focusing on just don't quite feel fresh or super important based on what's going on. Like the last couple weeks, the way that we're suddenly arguing about the Bolo thing that happened in South Carolina two seasons ago, when they first brought up Latoya's name a couple weeks ago, I was honestly taken aback because I was like, I thought we kind of agreed that that season was like a little bit of a mess and we just were going to kind of pretend it didn't happen. And so the fact that Latoya Ali is coming back on the show next week, it's like, respectfully, who asked? Who? Who?

needs that. Like nobody, nobody was watching Real Housewives of Atlanta two months ago and saying, you know, this season is all right. It's missing something. What do we think it's missing? The return of Latoya, our famous one season friend of who was supposed to be a housewife during filming and then got downgraded and then, you know, was never to be heard from again. Well, surprise, she's back. That'll be like, you know, I'm sure the ratings boost that they're looking for. Sarcasm. And then, you know, the. there was the whole drama about this shooting that happened a few years ago, that suddenly it seemed Marlowe was really upset with Candy about how she responded. It just feels like they are

kind of searching for these topics to have conflict over, whereas in past seasons, to me, at least, it's felt more organic, or at least they've done a good job of making it seem organic. And I don't necessarily have major problems with the women in the cast this year. I think overall, it feels like a strong cast. It's more of a story problem. And I don't know, maybe you can't quite separate those two because it's on the cast to kind of deliver the story and the conflict and the dynamics and the tension. But it's my instinct for some reason still isn't like, this is trash, scrap it and start anew. I more am thinking along the lines of maybe it would be time for them next season to try and bring back some, some like Atlanta legends. I don't know.

We're seeing Cynthia Bailey return on next week's episode, which I'm actually really intrigued by. Cynthia was never the center of conflict or the center of drama and mess while she was on the show. That was never kind of her calling card as a housewife. but I think she doesn't get enough credit over 10 or 11 seasons, however long she was on the show, for being kind of a solid presence in the group, always making her opinions known, having, you know, major relationships with both Nini and Kenya, and really bringing a lot to the show just in terms of personality and group dynamic, that that is something we're seeing this season. I think you have a lot of individual people doing good work on the show, but overall, maybe

the cast doesn't feel like more than the sum of its parts. And I think having somebody like a Cynthia there is really somebody who could kind of bring everything together. And so I don't know if she wants to be a housewife again. I don't know kind of where her ambitions lie coming back to the show. But I think that's interesting to look at. Obviously, I was just talking about Nini. I don't know how open that door is, you know, either from her side or from Bravo's. But I think it's always interesting to think about her coming back. Portia has had a lot of kind of, you know, hemming and hawing about her potential future on Housewives. Obviously, she did ultimate Girls Trip earlier this year. I think a lot of people weren't a big fan of her when

she left the show. Her spinoff was kind of disastrous. But I think she was great on girls' trip. I think she still has the right energy for a Housewives show. So I would be interested to see if she's willing to come back. I mean, Kim Zolzi, appeared on the show a couple weeks ago. Obviously, stuff happening in her personal life, I'm not the biggest fan of Kim, but I imagine that her name at least would be in the mix. So I think the thing with a reboot is that my biggest fear, and it was the same with New York, this isn't an Atlanta-specific thing, is that it is such a gamble to try and find a full new group of women. It is not a sure thing. It's not, you know, a slam dunk. And I worry that if they went through this process,

again, it might not end up being worth it. That if they find a new group of six women in Atlanta who are a little bit younger and hungry and ready to, you know, ready to go, there's no guarantee it would work. And I think with Roney so far, even if it's not your favorite thing you've ever watched, even if you are a little underwhelmed, I think we've gotten kind of lucky because it is not a disaster. Even if you're not, you know, if you're not obsessed with it, that's fine. it's not a disaster.

And I think it worries me to kind of keep going back to that drawing board because I think sooner or later, maybe sooner, you're going to have an issue. And Housewives casting is hard. Think about all of the single-season Housewives and false starts we've had over the last few years on Atlanta, on O.C., on Jersey. It took them years to find a new housewife on Jersey after Jennifer and Jackie came. It was like three seasons before they found anybody that even made sense to put full time. On OC, there's like a whole, you know, you could fill a baseball team with all the one-season

housewives from Orange County. And Atlanta has their fair share of them too. Remember Shamari? No, you don't. Maybe you do. I do. Claudia, Kim Fields. You know, there are a lot of people that haven't worked that seemed on paper like they had

potential. So I'm hesitant to just be like, yep, reboot it. pull the plug. And also, I think that you just still have a cast full of, full of people that have something to give. The thought of just like dumping Kenya, because this season has been lackluster, there's, we don't get another Kenya more. Like, you think that Kenya moors are just growing on trees in Atlanta? That's not the case. If it were, our reality TV landscape would look a lot different. I don't know. I do think, like them bringing back Shiree this last

time I think has been successful. Shire, over the last two seasons, I've had a lot of fun with. So I think definitely there is something is needed on Atlanta. I don't think, I don't think they need the full reboot now. I think they should give it one more season, put some effort into the casting for next season, because I think it's important to remember between last season and this season, they made no casting changes. Aside from bringing in Courtney as a new friend of, all the housewives stayed. The cast essentially stayed the same.

So I think, you know, it's probably time after this season, make some changes, get creative, maybe, you know, pony up the money to get some favorites back, and we'll go from there. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both war.

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trademark of the Coca-Cola company a lot of you guys also asked about when various shows are coming back to Bravo and, you know, unfortunately, as much as I wish I did for both my own personal knowledge and for planning for my whole ass job, I don't have a crystal ball and know when everything is coming back to Bravo before you do. It seems most likely that Salt Lake City is going to be next, though, in terms of Housewives shows. But they are currently in a position where a lot of Housewives shows are done filming. So Salt Lake City, Potomac, Miami, Dubai, and Beverly. Hills, except maybe whatever they're doing with Kyle, all are done filming. So we have a lot of housewives that is going to be likely rolling out over the course of the rest of the year. I would say

it's likely Potomac will be on Sundays after Atlanta ends. Beverly Hills, maybe Wednesdays after Orange County, but also Tuesday is pretty wide open on the Bravo calendar right now. So I think it's all going to be slotted in there. Miami, interestingly enough, they just started airing season five of Miami on Bravo last month. So it seems unlikely that the new season will come out before that is done airing. So probably like we're looking at, I would say, end of the year for Miami, which is in line with when it's been the last couple of years. But overall, we have a lot to look forward to in terms of new housewives. And I'm excited for that. Vanderpump rules, on the other hand, they're still filming. It's not going to be back till next year. You know, don't, don't hold your breath.

But we should be getting Southern Charm and Winterhouse between now and then, and Winterhouse is going to have some Vanderpump representation, I believe, this season. And then in terms of New Jersey, a couple of you asked about New Jersey, you guys, they have not started filming yet. They are filming supposedly this month. You're waiting until next spring. Look, housewives is never, they're never cranking out two seasons a year. It just doesn't happen.

So as much as I'm curious to see what's happening with the future of New Jersey, you're more likely to get your Dumois updates about where they've been spotted filming than you are. any kind of actual confirmation or teaser or anything. Somebody asked if I think that Teresa and Melissa are going to be friends next season? No. No! Sorry. What planet?

On what earth? Are Teresa and Melissa going to be friends next season? I don't know if Teresa is even going to film with Melissa, be in the same room, let alone be friends. I think that ship has 100% sailed. I am very curious to see sort of how they navigate. I think Bravo kind of played the Trump card by bringing them both back for next season. So that's, you know, they kind of are forcing their hands. They're saying, look, if you want to be on this show, Melissa's going to be on this show and vice versa.

So I'm very curious to see how it goes. And I'm curious to see how everybody else kind of handles the future of that show. Because I just, I want there to be, I feel like there needs to be a crack in the in the teams a little bit. Melissa and Teresa, I get it. They don't need to be friends. They're not going to be friends. It would be weird if they were. But I feel like there needs to be some thawing in the Teresa, Jennifer, Danielle Cooperall camp,

and the Margaret, Melissa, Jackie. Rachel, is Jackie going to be back? Who knows? But yeah, I think next season will be interesting. And I hope that they can get a little more creative with their relationships. Because I do think otherwise it will start to feel. a little bit stale. But yeah, that's that's kind of what we have on the Bravo docket for the next handful of months. And obviously, we'll be mentioned it all here. Some people also asking about

BravoCon, I wish I had more information for you guys. Obviously, the tickets have gone on sale and they are sold out. They sold out very quickly. And I know a lot of people that wanted tickets weren't able to get them. They sold out. And now there are resellers selling tickets for exorbitant sums. I don't know anything about the ticket wait lists, except I will say, again, don't quote me on this. And if you don't end up getting tickets, please don't say, like, you know, Dylan told me, XYZ. Last year, I do know people that were able to get tickets much closer to the event. And they definitely weren't paying thousands of dollars for those tickets from resellers. I do think they released some more as we got into the fall. But I really don't know.

they're not giving me any information they're not giving you. So I will say if you can make it, I would recommend it. It was a lot of fun last year. I'll be there and I definitely want to see as many of you as possible. But if you're not able to attend, I will be giving you the behind the scenes, the down low, all the tea, all the info, everything you need to know about BravoCon. And we'll be talking more about it as we get closer. You know, when they drop the schedule and the programming and, you know, all my recommendations and frequently asked questions. We'll do another. mailbag, maybe specifically about BravoCon as we get closer. But that's all I know. A couple of people also asked about Bethany's reality union conversations that she's been having recently. And here's the

thing. Do I think Bethany is going to ruin BravoCon? No. Bethany has big goals. I think she's making some good points, but none of this is happening in the next three months. I think BravoCon will be just fine. But when it comes to the broader, the broader questions that Bethany has brought up about a reality union. I think if you're not following Bethany's TikTok, basically she's bringing up, you know, right now the writers are on strike, the actors are on strike, and she's bringing up the question of why don't we have a reality star union? That, you know, we're on these shows, we're making all this money for these companies. These shows are being on, they're on streaming services, they're in reruns. People are watching them for hundreds and thousands of hours and they don't get

any residuals from that. They're not making, you know, there's no profit participation for reality contestants, reality, you know, cast members, and kind of just asking questions about that. And Bethany has really been hitting this hard the last couple weeks. She's hired a couple of prominent attorneys to kind of look into this. I don't know all the right words. She's posted essentially a list of demands or a list of things that she wants. And here's where I fall on this. I think Bethany has made some great points.

I think she has asked some stellar questions. And I think that she is right. about a lot of it. But I think Bethany is just kind of inherently not the ideal messenger for this type of topic because Bethany is somebody who is polarizing. Bethany is somebody who is going through this weird phase of like I talked about with Nini. Like what is Bethany's whole deal right now? And I won't lie, based on all of her social media posting and her TikToks and whatnot over the last couple years, it does feel like in this moment with, you know, there's more union talks. right now than I think I have ever noticed in my adult life. You know, it's it's hot strike summer.

And I think I think Bethany has has seen a chance to go viral and get a lot of coverage and attention. And I don't think that takes away from the fact that she is making good points. But I do think I will be curious to see if this is a cause that Bethany really sticks with and, you know, makes a real effort to see through. Because I think if this is going to happen. It's going to take a while, and it's going to take a lot of people getting involved and a lot of people speaking out. My friend of the podcast, Sarah Galley, who was just on Monday's episode, she just this week wrote an article for The Daily Beast asking some people, she went to Jill Zeran's luxury luncheon, and she asked some of the reality stars there about their thoughts. I thought

that was really interesting. I think it's the kind of thing where a lot of people have different feelings. A lot of people might sort of silently agree. If you're currently on a show, you might be in a position where it feels like it's dangerous to kind of talk about this stuff. I don't know. I don't know where it's going. I do think it's a good conversation to have, but like I said, no, I don't think it will ruin Bravo Khan. Bringing up the rear today, the last thing we're going to talk about, Kyle Richards, and her dear friend, Morgan Wade. Over the last month or so, there's been a whole lot of chat about Kyle and Morgan.

You know, Kyle, it was reported that she and Mauricio were separating. She responded to that by saying that they're not divorcing, again, ignoring the actual wording of the report that was made. And a lot of the thing that has been swirling around this whole story is this person Morgan Wade, who is a country music singer that Kyle has developed a close relationship with. They spend a lot of time together in Aspen and elsewhere. And there are rumors, speculation, whatever, that Kyle and Morgan are in a relationship. I don't know anything about this. To me, it has seemed like there is a lot of rumor and chat and speculation and not a lot of actual information. And therefore, I've found it quite frankly pretty uninteresting to talk about because Kyle is a grown adult.

Morgan Wade is a grown adult. Maricio is a grown adult. Whoever else is in the picture, I hope nobody is having feelings hurt or whatever. But I just, I don't know. speculating about people's relationships, it might surprise you based on, you know, what my whole, you know, deal is, but I just don't care that much. And also, you know, there is just a weird question of sexuality and, you know, outing people and, you know, just digging for information where you're clearly not being given information. So I have not talked much about this, but there was a

report in TMZ this week that Kyle is now producing a documentary about Morgan Wade's life. This is the quote from TMZ. We've learned the production puts the spotlight on Morgan's life, the highs and lows, from her rise to stardom to overcoming substance abuse. It also focuses on the 28-year-old cancer issues. She has a gene that makes her at high risk for ovarian and breast cancer. She'll be getting a double mastectomy in November. Presumably the doc will chronicle that journey. So this is, I guess, something that Kyle is working on, though, you know, producing could be as simple as writing a check and having your name in the credits. I don't know how this is being handled. But like, okay, sure. I think Kyle has a wide range of interests and, you know, has participated in lots of projects from her show that made her sisters hate her with Alicia Silverstone to her to her caftan store that has now gone kaput.

So if she wants to produce a documentary about Morgan Wade's life, that seems like as logical a next step as anything else might be. The thing is, though, I do feel like this was kind of presented as like a, we're clearing up the rumors. You've heard that something's going on and you were wrong. Actually, what's happening is that she's producing a documentary about Morgan Wade's life. And it's like, okay, like producing a documentary about someone and being in a relationship with them, allegedly, are not mutually exclusive. Olivia Wilde directed Harry Stiles in a movie. It wasn't like, you thought they were together. Well, actually, he's an actor and she's a director.

It's like, yeah, it's both. So, you know, is it both with Kyle? I don't know. I don't particularly care. But I think it's particularly funny how it's like we're being given one piece of information to distract from the other more interesting possible piece of information. And it's like, yeah, people aren't going to stop talking about this just because now we know there's like an IMDB credit involved. Look, I'm sure the truth will come out. Erica Jane was on Watch What Happens Live last night.

and Andy asked her about this, and Erica basically was like, oh, I have talked to Kyle, and her truth will be shared. And other than that, you know, unless there's a divorce filed, it's like, okay, nobody's saying anything. Obviously, they want us to watch the season of Beverly Hills. Obviously, we're going to watch it. Like, anybody who's like, I don't want to wait to the show. It's like, okay, shut up. You're going to watch it anyway. But, you know, is anything happening with Morgan Wade? Who the hell knows? Maybe a year from now, we will, we will finally get some answers. But in the meantime, thank you so much for listening. This has been a joy.

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