Mention It All - Nene's Big Return, Potomac's Nightmare Trip, & Salley's Friend Zone Disaster (RHOP, RHOBH, Southern Charm, & RHOSLC Reunion Recaps)

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Big news: Friday episodes are now on video! This week, Dylan has a full plate of topics, from his IRL Traitors experience to all the latest Bravo episodes. He also digs into the cast announcements for the next edition of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, and what this means for the Bravo future of Nene Leakes. After that, he discusses the RHOP cast's hilariously awful trip to Colorado, and Angel's bizarre disinterest into giving "the ladies" a positive experience. From there, he jumps to RHOBH's Sedona trip, and Amanda's ham-fisted attempt to address Sutton's assistant drama. Then, it's time to catch up on Southern Charm, and Venita's prediction about Salley and Craig's dynamic comes true in about five seconds. But how will Salley's friend-zoning affect Craig's crush on Charley? Finally, Dylan arrives at the RHOSLC reunion, which is off to a strange start after a trip down memory lane and a puzzling explanation of Lisa Barlow's business. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. And for the first time, you can watch this Friday solo episode on video. That's right. Mention It All is continuing its evolution into the video era. So we are bringing you now our Tuesday and Friday episodes both on YouTube. YouTube.com slash at Bravo by Betches. You can now watch every full episode of Mention It All on YouTube.

You can also watch the video on Spotify or, of course, we love our audio experience. So however you are listening or watching, welcome back to the Mentioner. at all podcast, and I am so thrilled to be here. We have a lot to get into. We have some very exciting news about the next evolution of Real Housewives ultimate girls trip. I'm going to talk about a trader's experience that I had the other night, IRL. We're going to get into the first part of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City reunion. We've got Potomac to catch up on. We've got Southern Charm to catch up on. A little bit of Beverly Hills. There's just so much going on. I haven't talked about Potomac or Southern Charms since before the holidays.

Because we had like two weeks off or, you know, two weeks of weird schedule. Last week there were three episodes of traders to get into. There was the Valley Persian style, which both of those shows we're going to catch up on next week. Honestly, with the amount of content right now, it's a lot to juggle. And I did have a little issue with my traders screeners this week. so we're going to figure that out. And we're going to be back next week with more Traders Recaps. But my lovely producer, Will in the room right now is very happy that I'm not going to spoil these episodes of Traders for him.

But you can steer clear of any spoilers this week. But I can't wait to watch and we will catch up next week. If you are behind on our mentioned at all output, we had a great interview with Mercedes-MJ Javid earlier this week from, of course, Shaz of Sunset. and now the Valley Persian style, just like the warmest, best, most lovely energy. And I had such a great conversation with her. So I would definitely recommend checking that out. And also watching the Valley Persian style if you haven't checked it out thus far. Even if you're not a Shah's fan, I think it's pretty good.

And, you know, there's never enough stuff to watch. That's a lie. There's too much stuff to watch. Earlier this week, I had a great time checking out the Traders Experience, which is something they're doing in, Brooklyn right now. It's in Williamsburg. They've done it in L.A. the last couple years. There's also like a live traders thing that you can do in London. I was looking this up. That one I think is like permanent. Like it seems like it's been there for a while. But they're doing it as like a pop up in Brooklyn right now.

But when I say pop up, like when I say pop up, what comes to mind is like, oh, they've got like a cute little storefront with like, you know, three racks and like a iPad plugged into the square reader that's going to disappear in a week. This pop-up is like the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen because it's at this, it's at this venue called Waylon. And I was like, okay, what's this? Where are we going? And I look it up on Google Maps. And there's, it's like this domed building that looks like a cathedral in like Budapest or something. And so I get there. I walk up. There's like traders in cloaks at the gate with like green lights on the building. Of course it's dark because right now it gets dark at like 4.30 p.m.

We walk in. And right away, I see one of the lovely publicists that I work with on lots of different Bravo stuff. And she's like, I got murdered last night. And I'm like, okay, we're here. We're in for a good time. But this trader's experience, what they do, I think it's sold out, which I really hate to tell you guys that it's sold out because it's so fun.

But you can buy tickets. go with your friends and it's an hour long thing. And I was like, okay, the traders, they're there in Scotland for like two weeks, you know, doing missions every day, roundtable, banishment, turret, breakfast, lunch, dinner, going in the van back to the hotel, but pretending they're sleeping in the castle. How are they packing all of this into an hour? I was a little bit skeptical because I'm like, I don't know. I don't love taking things seriously. Like, I just, I have trouble sometimes with like experiences. I don't know. It's, it's, it's something I should work on. But no, we got to the traders experience. You, you put on a name tag because you have to know like who the people are

that you're banishing or murdering or whatever. But they take us through. It was a group of like 10 or 12 people and it was so legit. We had the most wonderful host cast member. I get a lot of Disney TikToks, like Disney adults, and like they're called cast members when they work at Disney World, like the employees, I guess. These were like fully actors who were like leading us through this trader's experience. We had a wonderful woman named Emily who was doing, I think a lovely fake Scottish accent, if she's actually Scottish, I'm so sorry, Emily. She was in like a great like tartan purple, sparkly outfit, very Alan Cumming Corps. And it was just like such a full experience where They were taking us through.

They selected a traitor. We had our blindfolds on. We went into the breakfast room and there were little missions. There was like a logic puzzle where we had to figure out where all the contestants were supposed to be seated at breakfast. We went into like a maze that was constructed with like fog machines and and more blindfolds. And then people got murdered and then we went into a library and there was a game in there. And it ended in this giant like I told you it's a domed building. So we end in like the main.

rotunda is that the word? Like when you go to like the capital and it's like the rotunda, that's a fun word. I like the word rotunda. We were like under the dome and they have the giant round table set up there and it's like the fucking round table with the little pieces of blackboard and the little chalk and immediately I'm like, I can't wait to misspell someone's name. It was really fun. They did an excellent job of like condensing the different elements of traders into like a playable one hour experience. We ended up losing. I was a faithful. I was a faithful through and through. I did get out one of the traders. It randomly ended up the two traders in our group were Danny and Evan, the boys from page six who do like page six radio and virtual

reality who have both been on the show. They literally randomly selected both of them as the traders in our group. And so I personally selected Evan to get banished, and he was a traitor. So I felt really good about that. Like, I got a traitor. And then we voted out this really sweet man, Jason, who ended up being a faithful. And I felt bad for him. And then Danny won. Danny was the other trader. So I can't say that I won the trader's experience, but I survived the traders experience. And for that, I'm, for that, I'm grateful. But it was so fun. If, if there's any way you can, like, secure a ticket to the traders experience, I think it's open for the next two weeks. I would recommend it. But I'm sure they'll do it again. Honestly,

I was talking to one of my girlies here at Betches, and we were like, they should add this to the fucking universal theme parks. Build the Traders Castle. Bring the castle to Orlando, Florida and let the people play traders year round. I'll go to Disney World. I'll go to the Traders experience live at Epic Universe. If anybody wants to send me, if anybody wants to flew me out to Orlando. No, it was a good time. It was a good time. But enough about me. Let's talk about who's joining the Real Housewives ultimate road trip. It has been, it was announced at BravoCon that for the 20th anniversary of Real Housewives this year. They're bringing back girls' trip in this new format where there are going to be a group of ladies. That's my

favorite. I'm really into the phrase like the ladies right now. I think it's kind of angel from Potomac's impact, arguably her only impact thus far. I'm really into just saying like the ladies. But they're going to be traveling around the country to all the different like housewives destinations and reminiscing and meeting up with friends and enemies and you know everything in between um to celebrate 20 years of housewives and so when they announced this at bravocon it was like exciting but also extremely vague where it's like okay like what is this show sorry who who's going who's going to be there you're you're going where are you like road tripping in the car or are they just like sitting in a sprinter van for 3,000 miles or are they actually

flying from place to place and then just sort of like telling us it's a road trip. We still don't have all those details, but Porschea was on, watch what happens live the other night after she was, spoiler alert, banished on the traitors. And Andy used that opportunity to announce the core cast for Real Housewives Ultimate Road Trip, which, okay, I also then got the press release that the working title of this is real housewives ultimate road trip roaring 20th it's a working title and I would say it could use a little more work roaring 20th because okay I get I get it but unfortunately

because it's roaring 20s is like the phrase and when you say roaring 20th it sounds like you're saying 20s but you have a lisp So the core cast for the Roaring 20th is, I got to stop myself from saying everything with the Lisp now, because that's not what we should be doing. It's Luanne. It's Teresa. It's Jazele. It's Portia, obviously.

Kyle Richards, Vicki Gunvelson, and Lisa Bartlow. Those seven are rounding out our road trip crew. They're roaring 20th across the country. And I can't wait to see it. but it's really interesting because prior to this official announcement of the core cast, I don't know exactly how we're supposed to talk about this show, but we got earlier in the week a report from TMZ after there had been like previous rumors and reports and yada, yada, yada, that Nini Leaks is officially returning to Bravo as a part of this

ultimate road trip show. Now, I think that people sort of misread on that article because it was like, Nini's doing this show. She's going to be on the road trip. Hallelujah. Nini's back to Bravo. War is over. We can all rejoice. And then yesterday or Wednesday, Nini posted a video on Instagram, a reel.

She collabed with Bravo where she was officially announcing. she's returning to Bravo. It was actually a really lovely video announcement from Nini because she was thanking all of the people who have kept her name in the conversation for all of these years. Because Nini is somebody where she has been on this long circuitous journey of lawsuits and drama and bad blood and everything. And there's a lot of water under the bridge of Nini and Bravo. But the one thing that you could always say about Nini is that her legacy and her impact on the network, on Real Housewives, on reality TV, on culture broadly, was never in doubt. And she thanked, you know, Francis Burwick, who's, you know, the head executive at Bravo. She thanked Andy.

She thanked people like Fadra and Portia who have really like, you know, cemented her name, you know, continuing to be brought up on Real Housewives of Atlanta in, like, like their history. She thanked, like, the fans, like people, you know, truly original, which is the production company behind Atlanta, Shed, which has done, you know, New York, Salt Lake. I'm at, I think they do girls trip. So they're probably who she's working with on this right now. But it was just, like, really nice to hear this from Nini herself, how excited she is to come back, how, you know, how much she has felt the love.

But the thing is, she's not part of the main cast of this show. and I think the language that was used in that TMC article was that she will be joining the show in Atlanta. And so I think what that probably means is because we're doing this road trip to all the different housewives places, there will probably be like an Atlanta episode and Nini will come hang out or, you know, come do a little activity or whatever the show actually is going to be. Maybe they'll go to her house. Maybe they'll, you know, maybe they'll be at old lady gang or, you know, whatever. But she's not like on the road trip as far as I can tell. And so people, I think, were confused when this core cast was announced and Nini wasn't there because it was like, wait, I thought she was on this show. But what they have actually said, what I think maybe Andy said this or it was in some announcement somewhere, there are going to be like 60 Housewives appearing over the course of Real Housewives ultimate road trip roaring 20.

that's a lot of housewives. And I'm so curious to see like how they will structure this because for that many people to appear in a show where the other seasons of girlship have been like, what, seven, eight episodes? That's a lot of people to stuff into a small package. And so I hope that we get like some really fun moments with individual people. But I also could see it being like basically like a housewives reused. Union at each place where it's like, okay, we're bringing out like eight women from Atlanta and

Nini's on the stage, but are we actually going to get a lot of content out of that? I don't know. I truly don't know. And interestingly, too, in this core seven women on the cast, all of the longer running franchises are represented except Miami. And that's really, it's surprising because Miami, obviously they were off of the network for several years, but they are one of the earliest started franchises, and they are, you know, have been back now for four seasons and are really, you know, have been successful and popular since they've been back. So I was kind of expecting to see like probably Alexia in this group. I'm surprised that there's no Miami representation. It's an interesting choice. I hope that they will still incorporate Miami into this.

show, it would seem like a weird choice not to. I am curious, though, whether we're going to see a Dallas incorporation, whether we're going to see any mention of D.C., whether can they road trip to Dubai? You know, the way that Dubai, you know, builds things, maybe they're doing the land reclamation to make a highway that goes across the ocean so they can road trip to Dubai. I have a feeling Dubai will be getting left out of this equation. Rhode Island is going to be premiered by the time this happens. We'll be stopping in Rhode Island. A lot of questions.

A lot of things left up in the air, but I'm excited to see it. And I think the biggest question is Nini worked out the deal to come back for presumably like one episode of this show. Is this the start of a new era for Nini and Bron? or is this a one-off thing that we will be excited to see her on our screens for, you know, 12 minutes doing her little interview, hang it kikiing with Porsche and the rest of the OGs. I mean, Porsche's not an OG, no shade, but like the other women who are OGs, we'll see. They've already filmed the upcoming season of Real Housewives of Atlanta. So we know that Nini is not coming back to the show yet.

but I could see if this goes well, if it's received well, if Nini has a great moment. Are they talking about a peach for next season? Has that already been decided? Maybe we'll see. I think it's interesting where we are with Atlanta right now that the two people that Nini shouted out in her announcement from the cast were Fadra and Portia, both of whom are back on Real House size of Atlanta. So that seems like it could be a dialogue that's happening.

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There's iffy running water. The water's starting and stopping. You never know what you're going to get. Giselle and Ashley are sharing a room with twin beds and no bathroom. Angel is, you know, staying on her property, on her land, her 36 acres or whatever. She's only invited Kiyana and Tia to stay there with her. She brings the ladies over for dinner and it's a free. show. There's, you know, creepy men sitting around the fire pit, smoking cigars. They get introduced.

What is going on? They're eating dinner in a field. Angel sends them back to their Airbnb or Verbo or whatever at 7 p.m. and says, okay, thanks for coming. See you tomorrow. Back in the car for an hour and a half. It gets super dark. They don't know where they're going. No running water. Literally like everything could possibly be. bad about this trip is. And I don't know the last time I've laughed this hard watching Housewives. Because it's just, it's like the true comedy of errors where it's like all of this is happening and there's no running water.

Stacey's like, bitch, I want to brush my teeth. It was just like there is something so wonderful about watching these women. just be disappointed at every turn and scratching their heads and shaking their heads and just like baffled at the lack of at the lack of care that Angel has put into this trip. And that is the thing that really is like crazy to me is that Angel is acting like she has planned the Olympics for these women. She's acting like she took seven years. and spent $2 billion and built a new stadium from scratch and, you know, dealt with global international relations. And, you know, the 10,000 athletes came and she executed a flawless two and a half weeks of, you know, sports and peace and whatever else the Olympics entails, a bobsled.

she's acting like she's fucking planning LA 2028 and I'm like you couldn't even get a a suitable Airbnb and it's just like because she's she's like these ungrateful ladies they don't know what it's like Monique is jealous jazelle is jealous I am over here hanging out with my Wanderland clients who are smoking cigars and we're eating dinner in the field and they're jealous. It's a baby girl. Nobody's jealous. Nobody's projecting.

Your energy is weird. And even if I, even if I, like, liked Angel, which is, like, I don't dislike any, I mean, dislike a lot of people. I don't, like, even if I thought that Angel had, like, some strengths as a housewife, The way that she is interacting with these women is so bizarre because she's not even really pretending to like them or want to be friends with them. Every single interaction seems so, like, begrudging and annoyed that she has, like, you're having a girl's trip with your friends that you're hosting, quote unquote hosting at your, quote unquote, at your home.

Only Kiana and T are being hosted at your home. whatever. Like, this should be fun and exciting for you. And yes, like, logistics can be stressful, but it should be stressful because you want it to go well and because you want your friends and the ladies to have an amazing time. But Angel is acting like, well, no, she's not acting like. She clearly feels like the ladies being there and need, God forbid, needing water is like an inconvenience that ungrateful greedy-ass, Giselle wants some water in a full-sized bed. So I guess that bitch is going to have to find her own Airbnb.

It's weird. It's weird. And it's like even if she wasn't clicking for me, you would expect her to still be trying with the group. Kiarna is not really clicking for me. But she is like, feels like a part of this group in a way that ain't. Angel just can't pretend to be enjoying herself. And then that feeds into when at the dinner, the first dinner, they're like, oh, because we're all staying at this Airbnb together, our favorite part of the trip is like at night when we can all be like in our pajamas and hanging out and like having good times at the house and like enjoying our time with each other.

and because we're not staying together, we're not going to have that on this trip, which I agree, that's one of my favorite parts of a housewife's trip, is like the actual, like, bonding time and just like showing up at your house for dinner and then leaving the second you finish your dessert, was there even dessert?

I feel like there wasn't dessert. It was 7 p.m. It was still light outside. That's not the vibe. And so they're like, why don't tomorrow night, you and Tia and Kiyana pack a little overnight bag and come to the Airbnb and we'll have like a girls night and pajama party and we can, you know, laugh and joke and have a good time. And you guys can sleep over at the house. Maybe you and Giselle can share the twin bed or I think there's some bunk beds where where Wendy is staying or There's accommodations of some sort.

And Tia and Kieran are like, yeah, that sounds so fun. And Angel's like, well, let me go ask Bobby, because he's going to be watching the kids all day. And okay, sure. Sure, sure, sure. You know, Monique is like, that's just dad stuff. He'll be fine. And Angel puts the hand up. That's the whole thing.

I don't think it's weird necessarily for Angel to be like, let me just run that past my husband. I'm not married. have a husband. I don't have kids. I don't really. I'm good. Um, but like, sure, yeah, communicate with your partner. I think that's, sounds healthy. But then I knew this was what would happen because the second Angel goes up to Bobby, after the ladies have left, she's like, oh, so they want me to go to the house where I am, you know, we're going to do pajama party or whatever, but, like, you're going to be with the kids all day. And then you'll have to do bedtime by yourself? I mean, that's a lot, right? And he's like, I mean, you can go. I don't care. You can go.

She's like, but that's a lot, right? And he's like, well, if you don't want to go, then don't go. And she's like, thank you. I just like, like, you're giving us nothing. You're giving the ladies nothing. Like, I just, it's so, and, you know, with Salt Lake, too, we're dealing with this with Meredith Marks, where it's like, Meredith, I love you, but if you don't want to be here, then I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I free you. Fly, DJ, Caviar, board game, Wanderland. Like, if you, if you are hating every second of this, I release you. I don't know how that works with like a Bravo contract, but like I personally, I'm good with Angel bowing out if she so wishes. And she, she, she, she so wishes. So it's just weird because the next day they're like

going on a plane to Aspen. It seems like it's going to be fun, but it's just like miserable at every fucking step. And it's not fun. It's like funny a lot of the stuff that's happening on this trip. But like it's not fun to be miserable all the time. I only like to be miserable some of the time. And I think that's healthy. But Potomac, I have a lot of thoughts. I'm enjoying myself. I actually think this season of Potomac, I think, is like sneakily quite good. And I, I have enjoyed it, enjoyed the week-to-week experience of watching it in a way that I don't think I had for a couple seasons. And I would say that compared to a show like Checks Notes, Beverly Hills, I'm not like super enjoying the week-to-week experience of watching Beverly Hills.

I think that there are some interesting things happening. Like I said last week, I think it's interesting to sort of monitor the dynamic between Sutton and Jennifer Tilly, which is, you know, shifting under our feet. You know, because this week Amanda has received some news. She's like, hey, did Sutton have an assistant named like, I don't know, like Avery or Ari? or maybe it's like Avi, Avi! Thank you. Amanda? Amanda, like,

casually bringing this up to Kyle in Sedona, the least casually anyone has ever brought anything up to Kyle in Sedona. It's like, baby, you knew from day one that you were going to bring up this information. Don't act like you didn't. And, like, look, what I like to know exactly what went down with Sutton and Avi? Yeah. But do I believe whatever's going to come out of Amanda Francis's mouth? No, because she's going to tell me that all I had to do was manifest and I would have $10 million, but also first I need to pay her $50,000 so she can teach me how to teach me how to manifest. But that's another $10,000. So no, like, I don't, I don't really want the information from Amanda. I want, I want to get Avi in the confessional chair. Where's Avi? But clearly Sutton is like very annoyed by Amanda bringing this up.

And, you know, of course, Amanda, as all housewives do, puts it under the guise of like, well, I heard about this. And I just thought, as your friend, that I should let you know that, like, just to, like, protect you because somebody's out here saying stuff, but also, like, what happened? And first of all, it's like, I don't think Amanda has really, like, been here long enough to have earned the, like, as your friend, I'm concerned. It's like, okay, why are you worried about me? But, I mean, Sutton clearly, like, a hit dog is going to hop.

her every time and Sutton's she's barking. It's clear that there is something that is upsetting her about this. And it's not just that she doesn't, you know, want to buy Amanda's course on manifesting gossip coming into your life about your new friends, former assistant. Like, Sutton clearly has some stuff about Avey that she doesn't want to talk about. And, you know, she gets emotional. She's like, this person was in my life and yes, they were a friend, but they were a business person. And so I don't want to talk about it. And Jennifer Tilly just like, gently her said, and she's like, well, Sutton. She's like, go out! And Jennifer's like, I wasn't even going to say anything about Avi.

I just want it. And that's the thing with Sutton. It's always all about Sutton. And when she tell, I mean, this was in the trailer for the season, so it was a little bit spoiled, but whatever. She tells Kyle that it's always all about Sutton and that she thinks that this is one of the reasons that Garcel left the group. And I, now I'm, you know, so that part was in the trailer. So again, the suspense was, the air was out of the balloon a little bit. now we're only five episodes into the season. And so I am from here, now knowing what we

kind of already knew, I am really curious to see like, where does this go from here? Does Jennifer Tilly fall back in line? And once we're not in Sedona, we're not seeing her as much. So we're not going to hear about it. Or is this the, are we pulling at a thread? And soon the sweater is going to be a pile of thread with no sweater anymore. You know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know what's going to happen. I know that nothing good will come from Amanda snooping around. You know, Kyle and Dorete are still figuring out, you know, oh, Mauricio says P.K. is a great dad and that Doreth stops him from, yeah, I bet he bet he does.

I bet he does. Oh, Maricio is taking Pek's side. It's crazy. Is water wet? No, but like Beverly Hills is okay. It's fine. I'm not having a bad time. But Potomac is a lot of fun right now.

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Watching the development of the Craig, Charlie, Sally, Austin, Audrey, Vanita, Madison, Madison. Watching the development of the dynamic this season has been pretty intriguing to me because I am on the record as being pretty annoyed by the Sally Hot Tub Maggi thread of this season so far that it's like, girl, enough about the hot tub. We know you're like lusting after Craig and you're spending every night in the hot tub and like good for you. you and it's very high school, like the girl that is going to bully you energy. But this week, this came to a head in such a... It was so cringeworthy, but like so delicious at the same time. I feel bad.

I feel bad, you guys. Oh, it's so bad. When the episode starts with Vanita and Sally sitting down, and Vanita kind of has her last... Her last ditch effort or last, you know, the last time she's going to sort of give Sally her input. And she says, Craig is going to use you. And then, you know, he's going to break your heart. And it is what it is.

That's what's going to happen. And when it does happen, don't come crying to me because I'm telling you that's what's going to happen. And you're not listening to me. And like, remember, Vanita has a real issue with Craig that's not just like she thinks Sally's a dummy who's going to get her feelings hurt. Like, the whole thing was that she didn't want Sally hanging out with Craig because she was wronged by Craig. But whatever.

Enough. So Vinita's basically like, okay, great. You want to keep hanging out with Craig? Have fun. Until you're not. And then Sally's like, so I think I'm going to go buy chickens. Because the other night in the hot tub, Craig told me that if I bought chickens and like built a coop that he would come by them with me. So I'm building a coop. Ting, ting, ting. I have an announcement.

I'm building a chicken coop because a boy I like said that he would go to the chicken store with me and then we're going to go to the chicken store together and we're watching them get their chicks. Sally's getting her chicks. Craig isn't getting chicks. Craig doesn't want chickens. He just is like, oh, that would be fun if you got chickens. Oh my God. And then. at the chicken store literally holding the baby birds in her hands. Sally's like, well, you know, in the hot tub, I'm starting to like catch some feelings. You know, think about like, is there a future for us outside the hot tub?

And Craig is like, I just don't see it that way. He says we're just, uh, who could have seen this coming? Who? Maybe Vanita, maybe anyone with eyes. Maybe anyone who's ever watched this show before, just like, girl, you did it to yourself. And look, I have had my feelings hurt by a man before. I have been friend zone. You know, it happens to the best of us.

But sometimes, what's that quote? When someone shows you who they are, tells you who they are, shows you who they are, shows you who they are, believe them. That's a word. Sally's like, well, I just feel like, why are we hanging out the hot tub till 4 a.m.? And he's like, I don't know, yeah, a hot tub. Also, it's Craig's house. Sally's the one who's, like, showing up at Craig's house with a swimsuit and a towel. He's not going to be like, no, sorry, no hot tub tonight.

He's like, yeah, whatever, get in. Maybe I'll come out. We'll have a couple beers. She's like, I have the code to his house. Okay. You know who has a key to my apartment? My super. I don't think that he's like going to come over and get in the hot tub.

I don't have a hot tub. It's just like, oh my God, it's so rough. And then it gets worse because Madison, Madison is having the girl he's over for a little pajama pizza party at her brand new house on Daniel Island, which is the prettiest house y'all have ever seen. And there's no furniture yet because she moved in like 10 days ago and the couch isn't going to be there for another 10 weeks. But the ladies, the ladies, the girlies are all going over to her house. It's cute. Whatever. There's like a red, she has like red lights on. It's very, it's a lot. But, you know, Charlie's there and she's, she's got a piece of news that she's sitting on that she hasn't shared yet. That she and Craig are going on a date soon to the oyster farm. Because he's like, yeah, like, I'm running out of the oyster farm. And she's like, yeah, here we go. But she's not told Sally that. even though she and Sally are allegedly besties.

And they spent a lot of time in the hot tub together with Craig. And Charlie had previously told Sally that she would like, you know, respect her, you know, mind her business or whatever. And then the boys come over. The boys have been out. Austin, Rodrigo, Wittner. They've been out with Craig. Craig leaves. They come over to Madison's.

And I love watching like Austin and the gang show up to Madison's like girly pajama party and immediately be like, give me a glass of wine. Let me like kick my feet up and gossip. I just love it. It's like Austin's one of the girls. And he kind of always has been. And I love that for him. I don't know. I like Austin. I don't know. Whatever. But he he immediately tells Sally that Craig, you know, talked about her to the boys. And then he, he immediately tells Sally that Craig, you know, talked about her to the boys. And then he, he, drops the bomb. He drops the bomb that Craig and Charlie are going on a date. The way that Sally's face turns and she's just like, what? And Charlie's like, I didn't know if it was like a date. He just asked me if I wanted to go and I said yes. And then I was like awkward. And I knew that you were like, it's so uncomfortable. We're sitting there in our pajamas with our wine and I'm like, at least she doesn't have a couch yet. So you can't like spill the wine on the couch because that would be bad? The way that

Sally reacts to this is like textbook just like she goes I just feel like he's manipulating us both but it's going to take her longer to realize it. So, you know, when she does realize it then her feelings will be hurt. And it's like,

babe, we just did this with you. She literally, it's like she's repeating verbatim. what Vanita said to her last week and the week before, and the week before that, that went in one year and out the other, and now she has no understanding of the irony that she just got friends owned by Craig like three days ago,

and so has immediately decided that she is now like the wise guru of Craig's ways, and she's telling Charlie how she's going to get her feelings hurt, ma'am, girl, be so for real. Just like, I'm sorry, Sally is a clown. And that is my, that's that on that. Just like, girl, have some, have some cooth. Like, look in the mirror. I don't know. I don't know if this season of Southern Charm is like hitting 100% but I, clearly I have some material to work with. And I think the fact that I haven't spoken about it on Mike in a month is probably heating me up a little bit more. But, oh my God, these people, these people, you know, Salt Lake City, the first part of the reunion, I don't think we need to spend a lot of time talking about it. I, it's tough with three-part reunions because I feel like there's

by default always going to be at least one part that feels kind of fillery. A lot of the time, it's part two. So fingers crossed that that doesn't happen. Because part one, I feel like, was not the strongest they've ever put out. It's weird because Andy, like, welcomes everyone to the reunion. And right off the bat, Meredith, is like, well, I'd like to start with a question for Whitney. It's like, wait, sorry, okay, witness for the prosecution. You may take the stand. And she's bringing up some story about how Whitney was super drunk at BravoCon. And she was saying to her, like, asking if they can get along off camera and just have their issues be on the show and Meredith, you know, clearly Whitney was a slashed at BravoCon. This is not up for debate.

I mean, she was, did you watch the holiday special? She didn't know where her seat was. She was being like, guided across the stage. Not cute, I would say. It was sort of like shepish behavior in terms of drunkenness at BravoCon. But like this concept that Meredith is right off the bat accusing Whitney of, of essentially like wanting to have things one way on camera and one way off. I feel like Meredith is trying to get out in front of what she knows is going to be a very rough reunion for her because she's taking this alleged Whitney conversation as an opportunity to be like, I have no interest and no ability to be one person in one way and another person in one way.

So I can only have, I can only be who I am. And if you all don't love who I am, then what am I doing here? And like, right away, it's like, kind of, yeah, kind of what am I doing here? Option A. Why am I here?

And so, you know, we sort of put Meredith's whole thing to the side. but it's a very strange energy to start the reunion. And you could tell Andy's a little bit like, okay. So I had like note cards if we want to do that. And then we sort of segue into, you know, there's immediately like a whole thing between Heather and Lisa of like Heather's accused of tag teaming and getting people on her side. And then Heather's like, well, don't you do the same thing with Meredith?

She's like, no, that's called a friend. Okay, noted. But then we do a whole like reminiscing about the journey of the show. And isn't it crazy that it's been six seasons? And let's watch a montage of some of your best moments. And how did this show change your life, ladies? And, oh, isn't it crazy? It's been 100 episodes.

Let's do a thousand more. I'm like, are we done? Like, why are we on going on Memory Lane? We've got shit to talk about. And then I realized, they did the whole, like, reminiscing montage. I'm so thankful for the show right before they brought Brittany out on stage. I'm like, damn, you, you hate this girl so much that you were like, God, we can have her out here for like pretty much the whole thing. But like, she doesn't get to watch the montage of the most iconic moments.

She doesn't get to say how the show changed her life. I'm like, she cannot catch a break. No, but so that kind of made the energy weird because it's like, we have like a lot of simmering topics to talk about. And suddenly we're like looking back on receipts proof time. line again. We don't need to do that every reunion. Like we can we can we can look forward. Look ahead. But the biggest kind of like drama drama that's happening on part one is this big back and forth between Bronwyn and Lisa and the idea of Lisa being a risky friend and you know, whether she leaks things or talks about things or whatever. And there's this specific thing about

there was like, Bronwyn was late to the yacht because there was, she was dealing with stuff that had come out about her and Todd and Twitter, whatever. And it leaked or was told to a media outlet that that was the reason Bronwyn was late. And Bronwyn was like, well, it has to be someone on the ship. And like, I really think it's Lisa. And that's kind of, like, I don't, I don't care about who's late to the yacht. Whatever. But the funniest thing we get into is this big conversation about Lisa's business and what she does to make money. And you always know, I mean, look at Miss Amanda Francis over here, yapping about her website being done or whatever to show everyone how she's got it like that.

And Lisa is kind of getting the like Jen Shaw Wizard of Oz business at it where she's like, no, no, no, no, you know, you know, experiential. I do experiential. You were at a, I created a company with the Bella twins and we had an amazing exit. Oh, Heather, you don't know how I make money. You came to an event with Daniel Radcliffe and you don't know what the fuck I do. What, fuck you. My business is so experiential. And I gotta say, we did that whole thing.

I don't feel like I know more about what Lisa does. Like, I don't think her businesses are fake. Like, I don't have a dog in this fight. I still have not seen Vita Tequila on the shelf of a store, IRL. But, like, I don't know. If she's got it like that, she's, she has a horse. It's nothing grand, but she's thinking about buying a second one. I just, like, Lisa, Lisa, calm down.

Shh, it's going to be okay. Just tell us quietly what you do for money. Just let us know in, in dulcet tones, like how she's. she would sing. Um, but then we end on a cliffhanger, of course, um, because Angie pulls out a scroll and says that somebody was trolling her and that she found out that the person trolling her had the same phone number as Lisa. And I'm kind of like, wait, have the same phone. So it just was Lisa or like a foot, like a phone, if you have the same phone numbers, it just like is the same. Or was it an Instagram account? I don't know. I guess more to come to be continued.

Interesting. I don't know. I mean, part one. It's part one. We'll see. We'll see how we're doing a week from now. But that's all for today. Thank you, everyone, for watching, listening, rating, reviewing, laughing, living, loving. I had a great time and I hope you did too. Everybody have a nice holiday weekend. We'll be back with another episode on Tuesday that you can subscribe to our YouTube, YouTube.com slash at Bravo by Betches. You can listen, watch on Spotify. We love the comments. on Spotify. But yeah, that's it for this weekend. Until next time, be cool.

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