Mention It All - Nicki Minaj v. Garcelle Is Bleak Ft. Danny Murphy (RHOA Reunion)

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

Dylan is joined once again by Danny Murphy, and they start by discussing Nicki Minaj’s puzzling decision to insert herself in the RHOBH bot comment saga. Next, they discuss celebrity Housewives fans..., and who they’d rather watch with. Later, they recap part one of the RHOA reunion, where Drew cuts deep into Sanya, and Marlo’s explanation for her behavior falls flat. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 See Store Online for details. Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, though.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mentioned All podcast. I am Dylan Hafer, and I'm excited to be joined for the first time in a little while by a good friend of mine, a good fellow Bette's podcaster of mine. Please welcome Danny Murphy. Hi, Dylan. Always good to start the week with you. Oh, well, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And right back at you, I was looking back in the old archives and the last time... Lay archive? The archives. And the last time you were here on Mention and All was around the beginning of the Atlanta season. So I felt like it was a good time to check back in and see how we're doing 18 or so odd weeks later. We made it, we made it through the dog bones. Yes, yes. We've made it.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We have a whole couch full of bone collectors. I did love that, yes. I mean, they are good at the bone collecting. Yeah, the funny thing about that is that it's like on a perfect Housewives franchise, everyone should be collecting the bones. I'm like it's a job requirement. It is. If you only have one person collecting bones, it's going to be a long season.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And you could say it has been a long season. But before we get further into Atlanta, we have some more breaking news. to get to. And that is that one Onika Tanya Mirage, aka Nikki Minaj, has officially come for Garcel. She was on Queen Radio, her, you know, Apple music like talk show. On Sunday night, she was live, ranting and raving as she's want to do
Starting point is 00:02:23 about many things, many people. If Nikki Minaj is anything at this point, she is a lover of having beef. She loves. Oh, yes. Yeah, she does. So she brings up, she brings up this lady, which is Garcel. It's a, we know it's Garcel.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And she is basically mocking the fact that Garcel was upset about people being in her son's comments, which we've talked about the bot thing. Because this all stems back from about a year ago when Garcel was on The Real. And she. interviewed Jennifer Huff, who is the woman who accused Nikki Minaj's husband of sexual assault, which was a whole situation in the past. There was a conviction. She came back with a lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:03:14 She said she was being harassed. It's a whole thing. We don't need to get into all the details. But somebody who worked at the show that Garcel also worked on booked her as a guest, and Garcell did her job and interviewed her. As Garcell said on Beverly Hills, it's pop culture, it's news. I have to talk about it, about Erica's Diamonds and about Nikki Monashel. Yes, and I actually went back this morning and watched that interview.
Starting point is 00:03:37 It was a little less than 20 minutes long. And Garcel barely speaks during it. That was the thing that I was struck by is in this interview, it really is Jennifer and her lawyer talking for the vast majority of the time. And the real co-hosts are really just there to kind of like prompt them to go a certain direction in the story. but like it was not a panel discussion. It's not like sometimes on these shows, it's like, oh, we're talking about this, that, and like you say something that could kind of get you in trouble.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's like Garcelor or always say anything. All she did was sit down in the chair and like read off the cue card. Yeah. Yeah, it's not like this came out of nowhere. Nikki has been, this has been discussed about a lot in Nikki's life. Mm-hmm. And so, you know, Nikki is basically saying that Garcell shouldn't get to have an opinion because she said, you know, something that could impact her son.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And, you know, she says, I see why that left, white man left you. And it's like, Nikki. Nicky, Nikki, Nikki. I just am so confused. Because I know, because it's so funny because when you told me, like, oh, when you just talk about Nikki and Garcella, I was like, huh? Because last night, Nikki was going against, like, like, so many other people that I was like, how did she fit Garcel into this hour-long broad?
Starting point is 00:05:01 but she found away, I guess. Right. Like there was a whole Megan the Stallion thing. She's talking shit about Lotto. Like there's everybody under the sun, but somehow Garcel is also being dragged into this. And it just feels like, I, okay, first of all, I don't know how much Nikki Minaj actually follows the like Housewives drama. She's not like Jennifer Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. We know, we know she watches Potomac iconically. Yes. But like, I don't know if she knows. that these were like, this was like a bot attack that was like sending racist coordinated messages to Garcel's son or if somebody was kind of just in her ear saying Garcel made some mess about comments. You know, so I don't know if Mickey Minaj really like I could see her easily not really having the full picture there.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But either way, it's like, why are we here? Why is this getting brought up? That was my main confusing thing. I'm like, why is this on her docket of things to discuss on her queen radio show? And it's like a thing too where I feel like Garcell, I hope she doesn't respond because she doesn't need to or nor should she because it's like, what is the situation even going on here? But it just like sucks that it gets brought up again for Garcel and her kid too.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I think also the fact that Nikki Minaj, more than almost anyone else I can think of has this army of fans. Barb's, yes. are extremely reactive, extremely dedicated to whatever the cause of the day is. And it makes me, it makes me nervous that Garcel or her son or anybody else is going to get just a barrage of new attention from this. And I just don't want to go back to that place. I feel the only reason I think they're safe is they barbs me and they get mad when it comes
Starting point is 00:06:55 in like to like the Billboard Hot 100, I feel. And like any person like that, I think they're like, I think they're like still, Garcel might be safe from that. I feel they're still like just going against Cardi B for reasons. I don't totally know why in 2022. So hopefully Garcel's low on there because I don't, I don't think she has the energy for that.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I certainly do not. I don't, the barbs are, the barbs are on one. They're next level. They're impressive, but scary. Unless Garcel releases music and starts out charting Nikki Minaj, she should be safe from the bar. I mean, super freaky Garcel could be a remix.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Who knows? I mean, can we also die? Nikki released literally a Queen Mix on the day Queen Elizabeth died. Like, her timing is nothing if not poetic. That's the thing. It's like when she's good, she is so fun to like watch as an entertainer.
Starting point is 00:07:44 But when she does things like this, I'm like, it breaks my heart. It just makes me so. Well, and I think as people who love obviously watching reality TV, following pop culture, we like when there's a feud.
Starting point is 00:07:55 We like when there's mess. All of this stuff makes it more entertaining. and engaging to follow along with all of this stuff. But then there is a fine line when it goes to a place where it's like this isn't something that is worth fighting about or there's the darkness to it or it just is counterproductive to everyone's best interests. And it's like, I don't I don't mind if Nikki and Cardi are feuding or whatever, you know, through a shoe, whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Like those things can be, right? Like, God, if we could be so young. Well, that's what's so interesting. I was, like, so curious when I'm like, Nikki, tell me about, like, this behind the scenes music drama that you're having with people wanting to, like, stop people from going on your remix. That's interesting drama I care about with Nikki. That's how much I'm going against, like, a real housewife's son.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, let's not talk about the husband. No. Yeah. I'm also husband. I'm like, yeah, I printed that email. I sent that email out to everybody. I'm aware of my husband left me back then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I, you mentioned Jennifer Lawrence, though. I'm loving on this year's. J-law press tour, how now it's just like a known talking point to bring up real housewives, because she did it. She mentioned it in her Vogue 73 questions video about telling Bethany she's not a chef and her favorite housewife is Sonia. And then in this panel discussion, she and Brian Tyree Henry are totally just getting into Beverly Hills. There and then she loves nothing more than being like, guys, I'm just the girl downtown.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. like come over like why am I to dress let's like order some seamless watch housewives happy she loves to be happy with that does would I want to hang out with her I don't know but okay that's my vibe about all that yeah but interesting and that's based on just like I don't know it just kind of because my thing with that like I love her but then she does things that I'm just like oh why is this happy you know what I mean the main thing from that interview I mean this is not the buck when she talked about how like 30 rock made her Democrat I'm like what I'm like, now you're like, it's almost like she's like, what's that thing called like mad libs of relatability where she's like, I love Housewives, 30 Rock, Democrat.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I'm like, what the fuck is going on here, babe? I get that. I think there are certain, I love finding out that celebrities are Bravo fans. Yes. But there are certain celebrity Bravo fans that I would want to sit down and watch it with and certain ones that I'm like, hmm. Like, I would watch Housewives with Sarah Paulson in a heartbeat. Yes. And Rihanna, I'd watch Wraindle's with.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. You're not. Jayla, I would watch TV with Jayla. I don't know. You know, I, yeah. You know, maybe I'd take it back.
Starting point is 00:10:38 She could be fun. But I don't know. I feel she would, like, try to, like, keep on doing impressions of them. And it'd be, like, getting, like, too much. And I'd be like, no, Jennifer Lawrence, you have an Oscar. Like, can we just watch a show? It's so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now.
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Starting point is 00:11:37 Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. As I was watching the Atlanta reunion last night, I was thinking I want to see Kiki Palmer do Drusadora so bad. Ooh, ooh.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Just as like a totally ridiculous, like, sketch character. Yes. I think Kiki could do. a hysterical Cusadora. And I do love Drew. I love to drop it with Drew, yes. We've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I think earlier this season that Drew is she's a lot and I don't always agree with her or think she's in the right, but I do enjoy the energy that she brings to the show. Because she brings a Taurus energy,
Starting point is 00:12:33 which is me, so I do love that. And when, because me and Evan on the virtual reality for page six, we interviewed her and I was like, I just have to let you know, I'm a Torah. She's like, that's all she wanted to talk about. So any Housewives Horoscope astrology crossover, DM Drew, she will talk to you about it. And I like that she kind of like, she knows how to have fun, but also get a get like get something going.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Mm-hmm. Her thing with Sonia, I think it's more, it's deeper than kind of it came across during the season or it felt like it needed to be. I think it's strange because in reality, we know that they weren't quote unquote friends for more than a few months because they met some shortly, some shortly, some period of months maybe before this season really started filming. And then they were already on bad terms by the maybe the fifth episode of the season before we could even blank. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And so it's it's funny. I think Sonia maybe has a little bit of like almost like shock syndrome a little bit of I really thought going into this season and this experience of being on the show that you were going to be her out kind of my my thing to cling on to and Drew clearly really was like
Starting point is 00:13:59 that's not me like I don't know well that's what Marlowe told her told Sonny that she's going to have to get tougher skin to be a housewife, which makes sense. And I do love, Drew is really not trying to get that relationship going anywhere. My favorite part literally was when Andy was like, well, she's crying. There's tears. I literally was like Drew. Drew's Drew.
Starting point is 00:14:22 She has sort of a gift for the way she words things. And there are certain housewives, I think Candice kind of has this gift too, where the way she phrases things, it, It's so over the top and ridiculous. And she's like, well, Andy, you know, there's water in the eyes, which would suggest. And it's like, she knows how to argue with facts so much. And like, I feel like so many people probably listening. I'm like, because I know I have been arguments when people do that. We're like, well, this is like, that person's upset.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And you're like, well, they're clearly I did something and now they're having a reaction to it. And we're like, no, that is upset. They just know how to like detach, like, break things down to someone up as a sentence in a way that is like such like emotional warfare in an awful way to interact with, but a great way to watch. Right. To have someone who is such a kind of nonsensical backboard for whatever you're throwing their way where you're like, I know you to be somebody who lies. and you can you can do the mental gymnastics of well you're saying something that I might have said but when I said it I said it in a way that made it so you and it's like no no no you told a lie yeah exactly it just you just have to own it and have it be that like yeah also and also it's especially
Starting point is 00:15:52 like after reunion this is where you just like if you have some shit you have to nod along to you not along to and then Andy will keep the train moving. It's the best time to bring something up. And I really liked that there was an audience question about why Drew interrupts people and speaks over people so much because I was already getting frustrated in the first half of this reunion episode when Sonia's like, okay, so I'm going to tell. And Drew's like, you better say it. And Sonia's like, I literally am halfway into my first sentence.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I know. Sonia does not seem like, I don't know if she's loving being a housewife. I feel, I feel mixed things about that because I think in one way, she said that Drew is the only woman in the group who she really doesn't keep in touch with
Starting point is 00:16:40 since filming. And I do think that she did a pretty good job of becoming part of the group in this first season. And I think when you're looking, I mean, Drew should have been the easiest one. You're looking at a cast of Kenya, Marlowe, Chiray, Candy. Like, those women don't need to befriend the newbie.
Starting point is 00:17:00 So I think the fact that Sonia was able to kind of establish herself as friends of these women is impressive in a way. But also, I do think maybe she wasn't, maybe she's not loving the drama part of it. And her reaction to Drew, I think Drew is so good at kind of turning off the emotions. where she's like, no, like, I think Sonia's a flip-flopper, and I'm going to beat that into the ground and not recognize the fact that she might actually be upset by this, whereas Sonia is kind of like, even if we weren't like real-life good friends,
Starting point is 00:17:39 I still feel a way about how you kind of tossed me aside. And Drew is better at playing the game. That is that, yeah, I feel that is the thing. You know, it was just funny, though, because then I was like, Drew, because I don't, Drew doesn't have like a person she's super close, close with on the cast. I almost feel like. She has a lot of like, she's like friendly with Kenya now and everything like that. And it's kind of funny, like her and Marlow when they were sitting next to each other on the couch, I'm like, yeah, they're both kind of like, they like, Drew has less enemies than Marlowe. But I'm kind of like, who is her like tether or person that I know is like her like BFF on it?
Starting point is 00:18:18 I feel like she doesn't have one. Yeah. I mean, I was actually. surprised how much ground she made up with Kenya this season because last year, I mean, aside from Latoya, who turned out to be a non-factor, Drew's biggest, you know, feud in the cast was with Kenya. Yeah. And this season, it felt like they actually were on really good terms with each other for pretty much the whole season.
Starting point is 00:18:47 They seem sweet. Like they had good, like, scenes together just when I want. I mean, I don't think Kenya particularly. cares about Drew as a friend, IRL. But I do think that they, you know, were good for each other on the show this season. But I mean, she and Chiray are not in a good place. She and Candy, I feel like there's kind of like a weirdness there,
Starting point is 00:19:09 even if they're not fighting with each other. Yeah, I feel like they just like don't acknowledge each other, really. But then it's an interesting to compare with Marlo, because Marlowe really at this point, she's not good with Candy. She's not good with Kenya. she and Shiree, I think, are fine. They're fine.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I want to, yeah. But I think the fact that she is in such a bad place with both Candy and Kenya could really present a problem for her moving forward on the show because it sort of feels like, I mean, I know Shiree is an OG. We've known her forever. But she's in O3 take three. Right. It's her first season back on the show. I think she could easily stay on the show for several more seasons. she could do one more and then kind of be out again.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. Well, I need her to do another one because I just need to know why she by Shrey is now crashed down and she and I know. But so in a way of looking at it, I think Kenya and Candy are really the two most important people on the show. And for Marlow to basically be at the door is closed with both of them. It's not a great long-term setup. up. Exactly. And then I like, because like when Marlowe kept on trying to go at Candy a little bit at the
Starting point is 00:20:28 beginning of the reunion, like, kind of like, uh, be like, why would I produce a show with you? And I like, I love, I'm like, you know Andy even really likes Candy and Kenya too, because he was like, no, Candy produces a lot of shows. Like, she knows what she's doing with that too. It's like, she's at the most spinoffs of anything. And like, she's always working and like making new stuff. So I realize, like, I think Marlow's also starting to realize the foundation she's attacking them on is falling flat. And then the wounds are. a lot deeper because even after Marlowe had the really emotional moment in the reunion, which was right side, Kenya didn't, was kind of just like, this is not, this is doing nothing
Starting point is 00:21:01 for me. Yeah. And I think with the candy business aspect of it, it's like, candy might not be the one making decisions when it comes to housewives. You know, she's not a producer on this show. She's not making the casting decisions. But she's certainly more than anybody else on this franchise, more than maybe anybody else in, on Bravo.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah. Has her hand in a lot of different projects, a lot of different pots. And I think being on good terms with her would really have potential to open up doors for you. It's like a rising tide lifts all boats. But Marlowe right now is like,
Starting point is 00:21:39 she's not, she's not like tethered to Candy's boat. She's like off in the Bermuda Triangle. She's on a life, like holding onto a life jacket. Like someone, someone help me. Yeah, and I think it's tough because watching Marlowe be so open and emotional about her past and her experience with foster care and everything that happened with her parents. Like, I feel for her so much in that side of things.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And I understand why she has a lot of kind of residual relationship stuff from that. But I think it's hard because watching her season after season and especially this season in a full time. role. It doesn't feel like she's setting herself up for success in these relationships. And then yeah, maybe she doesn't feel like the women value her or put her in the place that she deserves, but she's not really helping herself out to get that respect. It's the thing to it. I feel like Kenya even kind of referenced this after Marlow was talking in the reunion, it's like I, the part that she would have liked more. And I feel like a lot of viewers would have liked more because like we've seen Marlowe have some fun drama.
Starting point is 00:22:50 We've seen it be funny, but like the housewife, like getting her the full edit of like a housewife, I would have loved seeing more of the emotional stuff happening throughout the season versus all now because now it does feel like it just kind of feels like, okay, well, you're doing this, but after you were like so ruthless to everybody. So it explains it, but it makes it harder to like, it can justify, but it doesn't like erase all the stuff you were doing with the ladies too. And I feel it kind of makes people think like, oh, she was just like being extra chaotic because she got the peach for the first season, which like, probably is true, but doesn't really
Starting point is 00:23:23 make people be like, oh, I want her to maintain more or I'm going to help her out or anything like that. Right. When she said the thing about running away from home at 10 and Andy had to be like, wait, go back. What did you say about that? And then it was this whole story that at least from my recollection, we've never heard most of that story before. We knew there was some trauma in the past. But and then when when Kenya says that Marlowe as a housewife didn't live up to her expectations and she, the reason she gives for that, I mean, of course, they're just like not friends. So I don't think Kenya was going to say anything nice about her. But she specifically says, like, you had this opportunity to sort of show a deeper side of you as a person.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And instead you came and kind of trashed these friendships. And I mean, yeah, I didn't. I didn't think Marlowe had as awful of a season as some people have said. Like, I still enjoy her for parts of it. But I do think it does feel kind of like a missed opportunity that we're getting all of this at the reunion and that these relationships with Candy and Kenya are already kind of too far gone. It's like you could have you could have channeled the energy a little differently during the season and you might be in a very different place at the reunion. 100%. And then it's just, because even Chiray, who was on our side, was like, oh, I never heard the story or not to this detail or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So it kind of just is like coming out of nowhere for a lot of the ladies. And it's like also hard because I feel like so much of it. They're just like, okay, but you were still very, like cruel to me. And I did not like. And I know like they don't even want to, like, they don't discuss it anymore. But like when she was like so mean to Kenya about like her mom and everything like that, like I feel like there's just such deep rooted stuff that they need to like really spend time cleaning the soil. with and everything like that to like kind of like help each other out but I think it just is so long gone which is hard because I do love my Kenya Kenya is my Kenymore hair is my girl so I'm always gonna be
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Starting point is 00:26:21 Visit Red Bull.com slash bright summer ahead to learn more. See you this summer. Let's talk about Shiree. Oh, gosh. So we do talk a little bit about She by Shiree, of course. And Andy asking about it taking 14 years. And Shiree does clarify that this whole time family was her priority. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 So, you know, sometimes the fashions had to get put on the back burner. You know. And it's like, okay. I love when she was like, no, like my kids,
Starting point is 00:26:57 he's like, well, they aren't full grown. Her kids are both, and they're not even like, they're not even like, oh, it's just they,
Starting point is 00:27:04 they just turned 18. Now they're not kids anymore. Right. Her kids are in their 20s. Yeah. Like they are adults. Like she went on Tierra's podcast. Like she's,
Starting point is 00:27:15 yeah, like, yeah, right. What are we doing here? Yeah. I mean, at this point, I think there's only so much that you can harp on her for the fact that it took 14 years and you finally had fashion.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's like, yeah, we know, we know. But sometimes she just doesn't help herself out. And when they're talking about candy talking shit about she by Shiree on her Speak on It show. And Shiree is like, well, I never said anything about you and blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, Shiree, please come on. And she, even when, when Andy is like, I mean, you all talk shit about each other. She's like, but I never, I never. And it's like, what planet are you living on?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Yeah. And then that's like, Candy started listing them and she was like, I don't do that. And it's like, literally we have. She was, Candy was like, roll the tapes. I hope they are rolling the tapes. And thankfully they did when her and Candy, I mean, her, uh, Shire and Marl were shooting in candy and then just all the compilation of Sherey all through it. It's not.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But what made me so sad for Sherey all. is when Andy was like, so I can go on sheep by Shui right now and buy something. And she's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. You can't. You can, Andy. And then when Shiree kind of tries to make it sound like it's worse that Candy was talking shit about Tyrone, but it's like Tyrone was a piece of trash. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't. Oh, well, that was the thing. That was Candy talking shit about, I felt like talking shit about Tyrone in support of Shiree. Right. And I mean, how many times on this show has Sherey herself called him Lyron? Yes. We have not been conditioned to have any positive feelings about Tyrone. And also she's with a new man.
Starting point is 00:29:00 So who the fuck do you care? She's with a new man who's probably even worse. I mean, yeah. I love how, I love how Sherry's like, well, you know, he's on another show. And of course, Kenya's like, yeah, he had three mistresses. And then there was a baby mama and all of this stuff. And Shara is like, well, when you get to know him, he's nice. I was like, girl, we just...
Starting point is 00:29:21 I don't care if he's nice. I just want you to be happy. Oh, and I'm an idiot. She by Sharii is back in business. Okay, the shop is back updated. It is. Wait, I... Okay, so it was a little confusing.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I think what they were talking about was when they taped the reunion, it hadn't gone live yet, because it didn't go live until the finale episode aired. No, but last week, it didn't. It was closed for a few days. Okay, right? It was live, and then it was closed. And then they had put up, like, a fake error message when you went to the home page. but if you if you typed in like she by shiree.com slash shop,
Starting point is 00:29:51 it would go to the shop page that was working just fine. Oh, okay. So she's being a little tricky with it all. I really got into my IT era last week. But now, now apparently there's a 20% discount code that's she not by she in. Oh, that is so funny. I just, I mean, but even. $130 t-shirt with a 20% discount is still, I mean, not that I'm a math girl,
Starting point is 00:30:24 but I believe he would get $26 off and it would still be a $105 t-shirt. That's a literal t-shirt. Yeah, I don't need that at all. And it's also funny too because I was like, and it just made me laugh so much too. I was like, oh my God, it really was 14 years for Jockers. I didn't know if she was going to add like some dresses into it. you know, like a pantsuit. It really...
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah. She's doing the athlete's shirt. Right. And I mean, the stuff at the fashion show was fine, was nice. It was fun. I love like the glittery one or something like that. It is really cute. Yeah, it looked good, but it's like, it's not Valentino Couture that I'm like, oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Wow. Like, it still seems like it could be made at the clothing at the Sheehan factory. Yeah, exactly. And it is funny too where it's like there are a lot of things like she has like the hook to check me boo and everything like that. It's like those have been on Etsy for a decade now for $2. Right. That's on Red Bubble.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah. And I like, Sherey, I thought you were selling those on Red Bubble because at the Keny more hair care or that or there was an event where she's like, I'm going to sell my shirts. And it was the who to check me boo shirts. It was. Yeah. There was like a years long period where she by Shiree was just a who gone check me boo t-shirt. And it's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's just merch. But that is literally, that is, you know, some, um, um, Duran to make it niceness. But yeah, if you like, if you like Bravo themed merch, just go to shop. Dotbethches. It's a lot cheaper. Let me tell you that. She buy shop by betches. Oh, a hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Um, but, oh my God. Did you see, um, today is the first day of Miss Sherry Shepard's talk show and her first guest is Candy Burris Tucker. Oh, my God. I did not see their interview. Was it great? I didn't. I, it was on right before we were recording.
Starting point is 00:32:20 So I watched, I watched Sherry's opening monologue segment. And then I had to, I had to remove myself. I am very excited for that show because it's like such, I love her. I mean, big hour to fill. Big, like. And it seems good that she, from what I've been seeing with like leading up, she's like not. She's like, it's going to be a different show than the Wendy show, like, from when she was guest hosting that and everything like that. It's going to be its own beast.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But I know it's like mainly the same production crew. and everything like that, and it's such a good crew there on everything, so I am very excited for it all. Yeah. If you are not on gay talk show Twitter, the way that Danny and I are, it, so Sherry Shepard is replacing the Wendy Williams show. Her premiere was today. Jennifer Hudson's show premieres today. And Jennifer Hudson replaced the Allentime, right?
Starting point is 00:33:05 No, that's Kelly Clarkson. Oh, Kelly Clarkson. Oh, okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So, I mean, Drew Barrymore's back. Big talk show. It's major. It's major.
Starting point is 00:33:15 This is like, so now. give the headphones over to your parents, 20 and 30 year olds that are done listening, because they care about the talk shows. Like, we do. I do love the fact that Sherry's first guest is Candy Burris. Like, that to me signals that she is really going, sticking with that, like, Wendy groove of the guest is going to be somebody from hip hop
Starting point is 00:33:36 that you probably haven't thought about in 15 years. But they have, like, an iconic beef. And you're like, how's it going? What's the beef? What's happening? Phil, um. the fuck it. And I like that she was like, it's not going to be like the view. It's like, yeah, I'm assuming your show is not going to be the view of Shire Shepard because it's not
Starting point is 00:33:52 five people shouting at each other about, God knows what. Oh my God. I mean, never, never forget last season, even though Wendy was absent from the Wendy show, we got the absolutely iconic Wendy Acefo clip. Am I a Nikki fan? Pull up in the Sri Lanka. I wonder what she thinks about Nikki and Garcell's beef. Who knows? Oh my God. Really bringing it full circle. Really bring it in. I mean, I don't need Michael Rappaport's comment, but yeah. I mean, you know, to each their own on Michael Rappaport, big Housewives fan. Big Housewives fan.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And you know what? He does, it's a, he's always, he has, he posts like a lot of videos on Instagram. So, you know, if you're ever looking for content, it's all there. I'm sure Jennifer Lawrence will interview him on a podcast. Really leaning into Reels. Yeah. Oh, he'd be reels. He be reals.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah. Would you, would you rather watch Housewives with Jennifer Lawrence or Michael Rappaport? Oh. Oh, my God. I'm wondering which one will talk through it more. Oh. You know what? Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I know Michael has been a Housewives fan for so long. I don't know how long Jennifer Lawrence has been one. I feel like she kind of goes back. I don't know if she's seen every episode of every franchise, but I believe that she knows what she's talking about in a New York, Beverly Hills context. I think she knows. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:14 She did mention scary. I would watch Scary Island with Jennifer Lawrence. I would do that. Okay. And also because I think, like, I have questions about her. I want to ask the questions. Maybe, like, a little bit of, like, an edible situation. That, I, I,
Starting point is 00:35:25 we'd agree with me so little. My literal nightmare hell would be getting high with Jennifer Lawrence. Because I would just be so overwhelmed. I would think I'm in the hunger games. I would be like, Katness, what are you doing here? And it would not go well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:38 You would be doing that. And I would be having an edible with Sarah Paulson. Oh, okay, there you go. There you go. there you go, there you go. There you go. And then I would be in the other room talking to Holland Taylor. I'd be like, so that new Sherry Shepard show, you watching?
Starting point is 00:35:51 Oh my God. Are you more a fan of Sherry or Jayhud? Holland's like, what? Yeah. I honestly, well, Jayhud, I love that it premiered on her birthday and that she just got the Egot. But I feel they've done such bad promo for her show. I didn't even realize it was happening.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Well, it's hard because I think, you know, you have Sherry taking over the Wendy show. So it's this kind of like succession. Whereas Jayhad, it's like, oh, she's doing it. Okay. Good. And Caramo has a show too, right? Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Danny, it's been so fun. Good night. And that's our time. Lord. No, I wish everyone's success in their talk shows. I wish everyone. Yeah, God bless. A piece.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah. piece for Gratchen Weiner's partial prom queen. Oh my God. Danny, this has been so fun, truly. Thank you for joining me. Tell everyone where they can find you, follow, you, listen to you, watch you, any of those things. Always a dream.
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