Mention It All - Not Everyone Needs A Spin-off Ft. Fat Carrie Bradshaw (RHOA)

Episode Date: June 6, 2022

Dylan is joined by the iconic Chris Burns, aka Fat Carrie Bradshaw, for another episode full of Bravo drama. They chat about all the Bravolebs at the MTV awards, and who should absolutely NOT be getting a spin-off. After some discussion about the new season of RHUGT, they recap the latest episode of RHOA, where Drew’s delusions are front and center in NYC. They also talk about Shereé’s unfortunate relationship situation, and how Sanya is faring within the group. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer And today I am Rilled to welcome back One of my favorite people to the podcast You know him from his work At Betches for a long time Now he's doing his own thing

And we're so glad to have it back please welcome Chris Burns, aka Fat Carrie Faradshaw. Hello. Hi, bitch. The bitch is fat, honey. What's up? I'm excited to be here.

I know. It's been a minute. I haven't, I've missed talking Bravo with you all the time, but you're over talking Netflix all the time now. So, you know. I know. I mean, I'm still talking Bravo. I'm still watching Bravo.

I'll never leave Bravo, you know? It's my first love. That's like healthy, you know. Thank you. Yeah, I feel like my relationship with Bravo is what most people feel about their first boyfriends. I actually, I went on a date last week and I had to leave early so I could be home in time for the Dubai premiere. Did you tell your date that? Yeah.

Like I told him before I go, I was like, yeah, I'm free on Wednesday. I just have to be home by nine. Did you have a second date? Maybe it's in the works. Well, listen, it's more dates than I've been on in the past two weeks. That's premium content that maybe we'll get into later. So last night, where the MTV Movie and TV Awards unscripted. I love, this is the second year in a row that they've split the show into two parts.

But I think last year they were on two separate days. And this year, they were literally aired back to back. So it was like, it was like, okay. we're going to have one big show where like Jennifer Lopez is there and Sydney Sweeney is winning all these awards for euphoria and there's like real celebrities and then like cut to this like pre-taped show where we invited the cast of Summerhouse. Oh, when was it taped? I didn't even realize it was pre-tape. It was like a few days ago. Definitely like I think they told them to like save their posts and stuff for yesterday because they were like tune in tonight at 10. but there were definitely some people that had like trickled in with some red carpet shots and stuff. Like it was like Thursday or Friday, I think, when they filmed it.

So it was like, it was funny that it was like, okay, we have like the A-list one. And then at 10 p.m., the reality stars are going to be there. And it's like, okay, I didn't watch any of it, but, you know. No, me either. I mean, I just saw the Instagram post also like went down the rabbit hole of the fact that Chris Schell's stouse is probably going to be on the Out 100. before either of us for her contribution to the community. I watched her little clip

giving her thanks because she won an award for something and was like, and especially the fact that these awards were voted on after my announcement really shows how much I love these fans

and blah, blah, blah. Happy pride. Yeah, as if people are going to like hate Christian because she's dating a non-binary person. It's like, Michelle, like, you're on cell. Yeah, it's fine. You're fine.

But I also love at this award show, Bethany Frankel received, like, whatever their equivalent of a lifetime achievement award is. You're lying. No, she was there, and there were, like, photos of her with, um, she took a photo with Garcel and Kyle and Rina and Teresa and Melissa. Like, it's funny because Bethany is one of those people where, now she definitely thinks of herself as being like too good for housewives, but she still wants, like, she still wants the clout of being, that comes with being, like, associated with housewives.

So she's like, it's like, she's like on her podcast talking about how she would never come back to Roney and she's not doing this fucking legacy show. Yeah, I just watched her, just on a real saying that she would never come back. Right. But, like, she also, if she's at an event with other housewives, like, you bet she's going to pose for the photo because she knows that that's going to get tagged and talked about and all this stuff. And I posted, this is a little behind the scenes, T, but I posted on the Bravo by Betches account yesterday, the photos of her posing with housewives and said, like, this makes me want her on a

girl's trip, but I'm sure they couldn't afford her. And she DM'd in response to that and was like, L.O.L. Yeah, they could never afford me. She only responds to compliments about her finances. Right. If it was like, Bethany, Queen, come back. She wouldn't say anything, but it's like, I bet they can't afford her. She's like, correct. You're right. And that's why I'm going to give you 10% of $40 million steak. Isn't she a shark now sometimes? She's like guest filled in. She's never been like a full-time shark, but she's dabbled. But honestly, I mean, she has so many of those skinny girl businesses that I don't know how much time she would have to invest in anything else. She's doing like skinny, skinny lunch meat and skinny girl salad dressing and leggings and jeans and I listen I remember like the first two years maybe I was living in the city I had a friend that remember when Anderson had Anderson live it was like that era when they were giving everyone a talk show it was like Chris Jenner Bethany yeah Anderson exactly I went to a live taping of Anderson because my friend

got tickets and the guest host was was Bethany. Wow. And they had to keep stopping because Bethany kept on like saying inappropriate things. Meanwhile, you have Anderson Cooper

who's like the most buttoned up person. Like he was like horrified. Like he was like, oh, I thought you came with Andy's recommendation. I thought that it would be fine. Oh my God. One time I saw Anderson and Andy

together at a pride party last year. Oh my God. That's, I went to Andy's Pride Party last year. Remember that? How fucking bizarre. Oh, my God. Yeah, this was the pride party that was at the top of the standard, like the boom boom room and that was the one that Madonna was at.

And obviously Anderson and Andy were there. And like Bowen Yang and like drag gray scurlies. It was a mess. I mean, what a world we live in. I'm like, and like Bowen Yang and I used to do like comedy together in Brooklyn before he got so famous. I've seen him on Tinder. Listen, I mean, I like did a show with him once in Philly where I did. did my makeup in the window of a car on the street because that was the only place I had to do my

makeup. So you never know what's going to happen. Now look at me. I'm in my own apartment in the room. You're on the mention at all podcast. I listen, I don't want to cry. So let's move on. So good. So good. So good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brand. you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, frame, and free people. Join the Nordy Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack. The other important thing that happened at the MTV Awards, I don't know who won any of the awards. I don't really care was we got a new

sneak peek clip at season two of Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip, comma, ex-wives. Club. And this clip is, I think, spicier than anything we got in the regular trailer. It's like a minute-long clip of just what I assume is one of the first dinners where Brandy... A very freshly botoxed brandy and Taylor both looked like they got Botox to the day before. I mean, Taylor's had a little bit, something a little stronger than Botox to go in there too. The fillers. It's very like first day fillers on both of them. Yeah. X, Y, Club, it's a little bit First Wives Club when Goldie Hawn does

the filler situation and it's like a little bit too much. I think that's like Taylor Armstrong's normal. That's so nice to say about Taylor. Goldie Hawn's beautiful. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. No, I love I like Taylor. I am

a big Goldie Hawn fan. I mean, Taylor, I've said it from the beginning with this show. Taylor is such a wild card. She has been in the Housewives universe for such a long time and seeing her yelling at Brandy Glanville in this clip and, you know, bringing up this thing that Brandy asked someone's wife if she was a lesbian and she's like, she told us that on camera. She's like, talk to me like that, you bitch. Like I am so ready. Fadra's like, these women are nuts. Like, when Fajdera is the voice, is the voice

of reason. I mean, and Dorinda's not even in the clip. She's probably already been screaming and ran off somewhere. Right, Derinda's, like, passed out upstairs already. Yeah, they're at dinner, so, yeah. Dyrinda, like, Derinda probably had, like, a moment earlier in the day. She started, like, fighting with Vicky or something. Oh, my God.

Listen, I would be lying to say, this is, I'm very excited for this girl's trip, because as much as I did. dislike Vicky Gunvelson as a person, as a housewife, bring me, I like, Vicky and Tamara I'm living for. I'm so happy. And I think the thing with Vicky is like, I really dislike Vicky. I think she is a shitty person, whatever. But like, so I don't want her back on Orange County. Like, I think that's like too much. I want Tamara back, but different stories. Yeah, same. But like, in terms of this one-off limited thing, having Vicky and Tamara both. there is like wildly exciting to me.

Like I don't and it's not, yeah, like I don't have any positive feelings about Vicky, but I'm like, oh yeah, I'm ready for that. And I'm ready to see Brandy fucking hate her. I'm ready to see Daryinda fucking hate her. Like that is extremely exciting to me. Brandy and Vicky, it's like, tens across the board on this casting. Yeah. And I think when the first trailer came out, we had been teased a lot for months that it was

like so chaotic and so much drama. went down and they were fighting nonstop. And it was going to be like such a wild turn from the first season, which was like pretty, it was cute. That's one word for it. And I think the trailer would be another word for it. Like when the first trailer came out for the season, people were like, okay, like, it doesn't look like that chaotic.

But this clip, I feel like is kind of giving us a taste of like, oh, no, no, no, like shit went down. I feel like I would watch a spinoff of almost any of the women that are on this girl. trip. Like I would I would 100% watch a Brandy spinoff. A hundred percent would watch a Fager spinoff. My God, imagine. I want to see like, what was that Netflix

doc, the 24 faces of Billy Milligan? I want to see like the 24 faces of Fager Parks where she like has so many different jobs and so many different stories. Oh my God, like is she still, I should know this, but I'm like what's happening with her like mortician

business that we saw a lot on the show is she still practicing law. Was she ever legally practicing either? We don't know. Well, she was like representing Shiree that one time that didn't go great. You know, she's been in court. And that's why you still can't buy anything from Shibai Shari. A bitch has been in the courtroom, you know, I don't know if it's gone well, but, oh, she by Sherey. This episode of Atlanta, which we'll get into it a little bit. The title of it is just so brutal. The episode title is She by herself.

I didn't see that title. I like went to watch it on Peacock this morning and I like clicked to the thing and I'm like, oh. That is so brutal. Like they're not wrong and it is clever. No, but it was fucked up. That's so fucked up. Very good. Very good work.

But speaking of, you said you would watch a spinoff of almost anyone on the Ultimate Girl's Tripcast. I'm curious if you feel the same about watching a spinoff of Paige and Craig, which has now been an idea that has been floated by in an article in people at the MTV movie and TV Awards unscripted. Apparently they were talking about this with people and Craig was basically saying that he thinks it would be fun. Quote, it'd be fun to see us in our off time and basically was like, yeah, I think if we did a spinoff, people would love it and it would be great. Don't they have a spin off? What is Winterhouse? Well, okay. So that's my, that was my initial thing. I'm like,

Regardless of how I personally feel about watching Paige and Craig, they are already on three different shows in the space of a year. Like they did Winterhouse in February. They filmed Southern Charm in the spring. They're probably about to go film another season of Summer House. Like how much off time is there that we're not already seeing represented on one Bravo show or another? And then on top of that, it's like, okay, so that's already probably too much. Who wants, like, I don't need to see more. Yeah, no.

And, no, I don't think I want to see it. And, I mean, Paige and I are from the same hometown, and I don't want them to be filming in my hometown for any reason other than me. Yeah, I actually, I actually have a first look deal with Bravo for any filming done in Albany, New York. You're like, you're like, they're allowed to film there, but I have to be notified and asked if I want to participate. participate. Exactly. Listen, she can have all, we're from the same suburb also, so she can have Albany, but yeah, listen, I just don't want to watch a spinoff about any straight couple or coupled.

Like, unless it's Nick Lechay and Jessica Simpson, circa 2004, I'm not into it. Well, I was talking about this. I had Dave Quinn on last week, and we were talking about spinoffs and how the ones that interests me more are the ones where there's, like, a specific structure happening. like that's why Vanderpump rules worked so well because it was like a Lisa Vanderpump spin-off, but it was about this group of people that work at a restaurant. And like, Candy and the gang was the same way they're doing a spin-off like that with Leva. And like, I would much rather see a new show that actually has like a concept versus just like,

well, it seems like people like them. So let's film them some more. Like, no, I'm like, I need like good drama and I feel like that doesn't come with just like a couple usually. Yeah. funny because I, so I posted this headline, which the initial headline on the People article was Paige De Sorbo and Craig Conover think their spin-off could top Summerhouse and Southern Charm. And I posted that and Paige commented, she was like, I actually, she was like, I never said that actually. And then I went to go, before we started recording, I went to go like pull some quotes from the article.

And they changed the headline. So now it says, Craig Conover talks potential spinoff with Page de Sorbo, quote, I think it'd be fun. Like, they totally got called out. Because, like, saying that they think it could top both of those shows is pretty cocky. But... Yeah. I love that she... I know.

I would also be like, the fuck I didn't say that. Don't make you... Right. Like, saying, like, oh, a spinoff could be fun is way different than, like, our spinoff would be way better than either of these shitty shows. Yeah. And especially if the person doing this interview was like, what about a spinoff? Like, they're going to be like, oh, that'd be fun. They're not going to be like, what?

No. Absolutely not. We already have two shows. Right. Like, you have people that are, like, I don't have negative opinions about Paige or Craig. Like, I think both of them are good on their respective shows. No, I mean, I like them both. You know my, you were there.

You were the only other person there for my infamous Craig Conover story. We were in a room, you and I, with Paige and Craig back in 2019. People years, years in advance. They weren't dating yet. But Carl kept calling me fat kids. Carrie. And then all of a sudden, Craig says to, like, starts yelling at him. And then he's like, hey, you can't talk to him like that. And then turns to me and is like, you're just Gary to me, man. And I was like, what? And then Dylan and I started laughing hysterically when we realized that he

thought that my name was Gary and Carl was just calling me fat Gary. But listen, what it was a nice thing to do if he thought that's what was happening. I'm like, what a stand-up guy. So Craig Conover, not here for fat shaming. Yeah. Body positive king. And he told us that he was going to make us both pillows, which I'm still waiting on mine. Yeah, he never gave us those fucking pillows. No, I'm waiting for my fat Gary pillow.

Look, I will not, I don't want to, like, call anyone out, but I wouldn't say that he was 100% sober in that moment. No, I don't think anybody was except for us, really. Right, like, we were about to host this panel, and I'm like, I'm sitting there with my, like, note cards and like there's like aos happening around us. I hope they bring us back for BravoCon the next one. I know. I went to that Dubai event last week and I'm like seeing the people from the Bravo team and I'm like, yeah. See you in October. Like right? I'm available.

Like I'd love to come. And they're like, we'd love to see you. And I'm like, you're the one who makes that happen. Be like when I say come, I mean, I would like to host a panel. Like attend. Yeah, whatever. Girl, winter is so last season. And now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress.

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We had a week off last week. I know it's normal for these shows to take a week off here and there, but I do just feel like it kills the momentum of the season. And as I was starting this week's episode, I'm like, oh, we're still at this dinner in random-ass New Jersey. It starts with Chiray with like the receipt about the assistant. And I'm like, oh, my God, I forgot that this was even the conversation. Which the receipt, I'm like, I don't get the receipt.

Like, I didn't understand what even was sent. It was like a picture of like, like, it was just him saying, I have stuff to say, but he didn't say it in the text. Right. Also, it's like weird that he's calling Ralph Drew's, like the father of Drew's baby. And it's like, they're married. He's not like the baby daddy. Yeah, you're right. I don't know.

I think it's bizarre. Also, like, you can tell. When Candy met him in that episode, I was like, who is this, like, complete character? Candy Miss Legendary Burr. I do think I agree with Sonia's perspective on this, that it feels like Drew has, for whatever reason, just allowed this messy figure to sort of stay in her life and, like, cause this issue within the group, and that it's like, Drew talks about not wanting to have drama and all this stuff, and it's like, then fire your assistant who's, like, spreading rumors about your friend.

Unless, like, Drew's, you know, close with him and it makes things more difficult. I think Sonia was kind of not making that much sense in this episode. Sonia, I appreciate that she is putting in some work. Like, I feel like she... That's what it feels like to me, though. I'm like, it feels like she's like, okay, let me go ahead and secure a second season. I'm not going to be one of these one season hosts. Yeah, I see both.

of it. And I do think it's tricky as a new housewife to strike the right balance of you have to get involved in the group. You can't just like hang out and like have your one friend and like do a scene with your husband and then like just sort of like sit there during the group scenes. Like that's not how you're going to ingrain yourself in the cast. But then also like we saw this last season on New Jersey when Tracy God lover tried to get in the middle of Joe and Teresa. And it's like, babe, you don't have even like, like, a little bit of skin in this game. That's not having it. That's like diving off the fucking diving board into the deepest part of the pool. I do feel like Sonia is integrating very well into the cast because I feel like she's doing much better than I think Diana is on Beverly Hills. I think she's doing a good job too. I think first of all she is, she makes sense in this group of women.

Like all of them feel like a natural kind of fit to hang out together. I think her husband gets along really well with Ralph and with Todd. I do think it's funny though to watch that we're five episodes into the season and she's basically already chosen to get into it with the woman who was like quote unquote her friend coming on to the show which I kind of love I'm like hell yeah I get in there be messy I feel like Drew is the easiest target though of all of the women and I feel like Drew is the least um like all the other women like all the other women. would easily also turn on Drew. Like, I feel like it's like easy, like she's the least, uh, deeply, like, deep rooted friends. Like, I feel like, Choray, yes, is back. But, like, Choray has these such long friendships with Candy and Kenya.

And, like, I could see wanting to align myself with the legends. Right. And, like, if you're trying to strategize on this show, like, okay, I just, got here. I'm getting my feet wet. I don't want to like bite off more than I can chew. Like, if you start playing the video game and you're on level two, you're not ready to face like the big top boss yet. Like you're not going to hurt like coming on the show and immediately getting into it with Kenya would be like a, you know. I mean, you would lose like. Right. I would love to see it. I think she's, it's almost like, I don't know if this is how she's thinking of it,

but I think it's sort of a good strategy that it's like she's going to have her like medium level drama with Drew where she's like, you know, I like being friends with you. But then now I'm seeing a couple of things that I feel like I should talk that I should bring up. And like I'm going to give you like a weird sort of half confrontation. And obviously I'm going to do it in front of the group because you have this whole entourage. Like I think that's kind of smart because then like she and Drew can either continue feuding or patch it up. but then she'll kind of have that under her belt when she wants to, like, get in there with the other women. Well, when they showed, like, what was going on in the room

when Drew said that, I was like, she's right, though. Drew makes it sound like they were just the two of them kikiing, like, in bed and, like, eating fucking takeout. But I'm like, there's, like, five other people in there. And, of course, she's going to say it on camera. That's what she's getting paid to do. I don't remember if Drew was like this last season, but this year, it is like, she has, like, three assistants.

there's a chef in the house, there's like full glam. I'm like, first of all, how are you paying all of these people? But second of all, like... Where is the money? What, like, that is a... I think that Sonia is aligning herself against Drew because of the business stuff. I feel like Sonia sees something going wrong with Drew's...

This drop-it-with-drew situation just feels like a giant black hole of mess. Like, I don't believe on any level that it's, like, real or good or as successful as she's saying. The fact that she's like, we have, like, thousands of people in these, like, camps all across the country and we're losing all this weight and we're making all this money. I'm like, how, like, when did that happen? How are they finding out about it? Like, drop it with Drew is, like, we just heard about it, like, three weeks ago for the first time. also said that they have six camps in Chicago. Why? Why? Yeah. And the fact that she can't, she can't give like a concise explanation of like, what is the drop-it-withdrew program? She's like,

we have camps, we have challenges, we have meal kit deliveries, like all of this different stuff. And like, I don't understand it. The women clearly don't understand it. The website either doesn't work or is crashing because so many people want to sign up. It's like, it's just like, you know, sometimes a lot of the time with businesses on these shows, it's hard to really get a read on like how successful it is or whether it's kind of just a storyline. But this one, it's like, if you can't even tell me what the business is, how am I supposed to believe that you're like crushing it?

Yeah, it makes, I mean, I'm looking at the website and it doesn't seem... Did you like automatically lose 30 pounds just from like typing the website in? Also, Atlanta, because they have the camps, okay? And they have them listed all the ones in, Illinois, and then they have Atlanta virtual only. Why would you not? Like, yeah, like, why is this like a Chicago-based program? Like, it seems like you're leaving money on the table by not even having, like, a camp

in Atlanta. Like, isn't that where her fan base is going to be? Yeah, and now it's like just a pop up that says drop it with Drew 21 Day for May has closed to join the wait list for June 12th to July 2nd. Okay. I'm like, this is insane. I don't know. Hundreds have lost 10, 20, and 30 pounds.

and then they have like five stars, but it's not like, it's just they put in like five stars. It's not like a review. Yeah. I did love when Marlowe brings up at this like lunch at the end when she's like, oh, like, we went to the website. And Drew's like, oh my gosh, thank you so much. Like that's so nice. And Marlowe's like, no, no, no. Like it doesn't work.

No, they were brutal. I'm like, there's no real Beverly Hills code of not talking about businesses. When Kenya says it's giving Ponzi scheme. All of them. Listen, you know that I'm a fan of the pyramid schemes. It is giving Ponzi scheme. Yeah. I still feel like I'm in this space of like, I don't dislike Drew.

And I also don't think she's a bad housewife. Like, I think she's giving us a lot of material. I'm glad that this week wasn't all about her and Ralph, because I think that is a little much sometimes. That's shit. I mean, that is like, I think one of the worst marriage. is in the Real Housewives Stratosphere. It's extremely troubling.

And I think it's like we've seen lots of couples go through their problems, but it's like every couple that comes on the show that has issues, you either, there has to be either a way for it to get better or a divorce. And I'm like, I don't, there's been no indication that you're like on the path to making things better. Like it just does. I don't see that in the cards. Yeah.

It's, I don't like. I mean, and I think the editors also. feel bad for her because they, like, are coming for Ralph's throat with the way they edit things. And even the titles of the episodes are, like, about gaslighting and stuff. I don't know. I just remember Drew as the hot girl on That So Raven. Oh, my God. Because that was who she was. I've probably seen that episode, but it's been, like, or was she on, like, a lot of episodes? She was, like, a recurring character. She was, like, the head cheerleader. That was really popular.

I didn't even, when she said that she was in step up, I had to go back and look for it to like click for me because I just like, it didn't click for me that she was like in high school. It's like, oh, like who was the older woman in step up? In that episode when she was like with Marlowe's business and she's like, oh, I'm in the industry. Like how do I like rent something? And Marlowe's like, when's the last time you book something? When's your last IMDB credit? It's brutal. I like Drew.

Like I sort of like, I'm like rooting for Drew in a way, but also she is one of those people where it's like it feels like the layer of bullshit or of like self delusion is really thick. And I just don't know if we're ever going to be able to cut through that. And, you know, Kenya says Drew's tactics when she's in an argument are either over talking you so you can't, you know, get your point out or playing dumb. like she doesn't know what's going on. Yeah. And I thought that was such a good observation because Drew does this thing. Like when Sonia sort of confronts her later, she's like, oh, I don't know. Like, I don't know what you're talking about?

Like, that's so weird that you would like have an issue. Like, what are you saying? Drop it with Drew's not real. Like she does this thing where she acts like so like dumbfounded by the fact that somebody would have an issue with her. And it's like, no, like, I think you get this a little more than you're pretending to. I'm also like, if Drop It With Drew really has these camps, why are we not seeing them on camera?

You know we would if they were there. It's a good point. Right. Like, the only, like, drop it with Drew scene we've had was, like, her and Sonia at the gym, just the two of them. And then the chef, like, making a meal. Like, that's not. Yeah. And I don't know.

I don't, I don't buy into it. I have never met an adult that's gone to a fat cam. It's a game. Did you, have you watched Married to Medicine? Yes. It's like one season behind. Dr. Jackie, Fit. is the new it.

Oh. And then she rebrands it as Fit Me. And I'm like, leave me alone. And I'm like, Dr. Jackie, though, like hates fat people. It's like a through line of the whole season. This is like every time, that's like got to be some like HR violation where every time a new woman comes on the show, she's like, you know what? I think Heavenly could stand to you lose a few pounds. It's like, cry.

And then remember when she like went to the girl who like won Miss Atlanta and she was like, talking to her about how she needs to get healthy. I'm like, no. Yeah, no, that's the last thing I need is, like, a random woman who, like, happens to be a doctor coming up to me and being like, you should lose weight. Is Quad not unmarried to Madison anymore? I believe she is coming back this season. Well, she was on... But she was a friend last season, right?

She got demoted to a friend last season, but I need to catch up on that season. But I think she was still, like, around a lot. as far as I know, I believe she is going to be back full time this season. That's crazy. Put her on Housewives. I think she would be so fucking gun on Housewives. I love Quad. Miss Quad.

Miss Quad. Like imagine Miss Quad and like any of them. I feel like that would be. And she's friends with them. They're all in Atlanta, yeah. I know. That is one thing that I think I would like to see in the future maybe as like a peacock thing or like a different version of a girls trip.

like sort of cracking open this like Atlanta bubble and like all of these women that you know are friends with each other and always see each other out and stuff it's like you gotta get some cameras on that yeah totally I would love that they should do an ultimate girl's trip in Atlanta there's so many people they just go to a hotel listen they're going to derinda's house what else I mean right I know they're like bitter that they weren't invited to Turks and Kikos. I would be too. I'd be like, it's where?

Yeah. You're like, Massachusetts? Right? I'd be like, where do, Brandy's like, where do I even fly into? Like, how do I? It is a choice. All new drinks are now

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Who knows? If Prince was trying to. to get with Kenya. Like, I'm like, I'm sorry. Prince was trying to get with anyone. Prince would have gotten with that. Right. Like, where is the disconnect between, like, Prince wanted to have sex with me, but then it

didn't happen? It's like, what's the excuse? Yeah, I don't believe it. You're like, oh, I was, like, I had a flight to catch. Like, no, you cancel the flight. Yeah, I don't, it doesn't make any sense. Drew, I just can't with her. She's alluding to slash claiming they're clearly legally not allowed to say the name

LeBron James on this show. But she's alluding to having briefly dated LeBron James, and she says that he flew her out to his games. He was listening to his music before he went on the court, and it's safe to say, absolutely no one in the group

is buying this. What are your thoughts on Drew potentially having dated LeBron James? I don't think it's that far-fetched, really. Like, depending on when the situation, I can buy it. She's like, I don't think it's that ridiculous. I think Kenya and Prince is way more ridiculous than Drew and LeBron James. You know what makes the most sense to me? Marlowe and Gene Simmons. I'm like, hell yeah. Why not? Yeah, that sounds exactly right. I do think it's funny. Like, Drew just like does

this to herself, though, where she tells these stories or like says these things about herself that just invite everyone in the group to be like, oh, please. When she's like, he listened to my music before he would go on court and everybody's like, she had music? What? And I'm like, yeah, maybe he was like, oh, you have music? Yeah, I'd love, like, I'd totally love to hear that. I feel like she probably like played a song for him and he was like, oh, this is cool. Yeah, and then he's like, didn't call her back after the game. Right, he's like, oh, fun. Like, he did the thing where you listen to someone's music and you're like, oh, yeah, I like this. Yeah, what are you supposed to fucking, what did you want to?

him to say, oh, I don't, this isn't really my vibe. Or she probably, like, gave him, like, a CD with her music on it. And then she asked him later if he listened to it. And he was like, oh, yeah, it was cool. Yeah, he's like, so do you know Raven, Simone? Can I, um... Can I get a copy of her cover of Stevie Wonder superstitious? Remember that you to, like, play that...

She like... Radin. She, like, covered it and they would play the music video on Disney Channel, like, during Halloween. I had one of her CDs. I think it was called This Is My Time. And it was, like, back in the era of, like, when you had, like, when you got, like, a gift card for your birthday or you had, like, a little bit of money as a kid. And it was like, I'm going to buy a CD. I bought Raven Simone's CD, which was very exciting.

If I had known she had them, I definitely would have bought them. The first, like, script I ever wrote was a, uh, episode. episode of That's So Raven when I was like 14. I wish I could find it. I think I put myself in it too. You like drive yourself over to Disney. You're like, I have an idea. I think you're gonna really love it.

Here's my 13 page script on That So Raven episode 441. Chris joins the school. It's on like loose leaf paper. Yeah, like literally. Unfortunately, it's come time that we have to talk about. Shiree and Tyrone. And it is really just so depressing. I've always loved Shiree.

I think she is such a wonderfully watchable person on TV. And she has a great sensibility of like what to say, what to do. But my heart just like hurts for her in this episode because it's like she's clearly trying to put on like such a confident face about the stuff that's going on with Tyrone and like she thinks he's going to come to New York and then it ends up not happening and the women are like grilling her about it and I I feel like already she's like trying to play it cool and she's like no no no like it's all good like it's not your business like all this stuff but then watching her sit at that for two and a half hours that tiny little table on the sidewalk

in her fur coat clearly like freezing her ass off it's just I mean I felt so bad for her and like, yeah, it's, it was heartbreaking. It was really hard to watch. I hate watching people like Shireg, like that happening too. It's like harder to watch someone that doesn't break down, get broken down, I feel like. Yeah. And because she says that she's put her love life on hold for all these years. Like he, because he was incarcerated when they first, you know, got together.

And then now he's been released, but he clearly has all of these restrictions on traveling and, you know, going places. And it really is like she's made so many sacrifices because she believes in this relationship and in this moment watching in real time her kind of like be faced with the fact that like whether or not, whatever happened on this day to prevent him from coming, whether it was like his parole officer told him he couldn't or like an issue with the filming. I don't know exactly. But clearly this is like kind of like a sea chain moment of like, I don't know if this relationship is like, going to work. Yeah, it's really fucking sad. Also, like, two and a half hours.

Oh, that's so long. She must have been, like, confident in him coming. That's why she brought cameras. And also, I'm like, how is the producers know? Right. Like, I don't even know what the behind the scenes is when they're, like, getting a call from his lawyer. I'm like, why doesn't Charray have, like, the lawyer's phone number? Yeah, that was weird. Unless it was like, his lawyer was talking to the Bravo lawyer because of being on camera? That's what I was wondering. Like, I don't know, because they made it sound like the day before in New York, maybe he had gotten permission, like, to film.

Like, maybe that's an issue. And so he had maybe, that was my theory that he had gotten permission to film the day that they were in New York, but then hadn't, like, it didn't extend to the day that they were in Philly. And so maybe that was an issue. But then it's like, why can't you just, like, send her a text or even? in like yeah because i'm like even when they showed his face when they were face timing you know it's weird when cherey called kenya like i love seeing kenya in like supportive

good friend i know and like it was you could tell that kenya was really felt bad for cherey and she's like asking what what i can do can i look for a flight like what do you need like it just i just like cherey needs a win and yeah it's sad but she looked fierce at least She did look at the fur coat And those like brown leather Like knee high boots Like over the knee And those sunglasses

She looks like a mob wife in the best way Yes she looked like J-Lo and Hustlers I was obsessed Oh my God Yeah I love a big Like she looks That's my favorite aesthetic

Obviously Imagine hustlers with Shire Instead of Jennifer Lopez I'm on board I am 100% on board. Oh my God. That would be... And Sherey so fit. I bet she could fucking rock a pole also if she had to. That's true. She does post a lot of gym content. Because she said she was like, well, my actual passion is diet and fitness. And that's why this is all natural. And she stood up to

walk away from Drew yesterday. Yeah. I mean, she looks damn good. And she's like, I just... Yeah. I mean, like, I don't care that Drew got like surgeries and stuff. Like, that's obviously her choice. But it is funny the way these women are like, so if the program works so good, then why do you have to get lipo? And Drew's like, well, it was like medically necessary. And it's like, hey. I also love how Marlowe's like,

so the drop it like Drew program is meant for women trying to maintain post-surgery. Surgery. It's like a tummy talk like maintenance program. Oh my God. That's the thing about this group, though. It's that it's like them arguing about

Drew's workout program at the end of the day is so petty, but like the way they do it is so hilarious and shady. And it's just, it just brings me joy. And that's why I love Atlanta. Yeah. I'm excited to see how it goes. We're still so early. I know. Well, I am so glad you were able to join me today. You'll have to come back again soon because we have lots more to talk about. But before we go, tell everyone where they can find you, follow you, listen to you, all that stuff. You can listen to, we have the receipts about Netflix reality, wherever you listen to podcasts, middle children, wherever you listen to podcasts, and you can find me at Fat Carrie Bradshaw on Insta. All the links are there. And that's it. Thank you for having me. Amazing, of course. And thank

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