Mention It All - On Becoming A Receipts Girlie Ft. Sam Feher (Summer House)

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

Dylan is joined in the studio by Sam Feher, fresh off her first Summer House reunion. She shares some insights from the reunion taping, and explains how it was different from her expectations. From there, they get into Sam’s relationship with Kory, and what it’s like starting a relationship on camera. She also unpacks her complicated feelings about Lindsay and Danielle, and why she thrives in the confessional chair. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer, and I am so excited to dive back into Summer House today. It's been a little bit since I have talked about this season, but I am joined in studio now by Sam Fair. Hi, Sam. How are you? Hi, I'm great.

Thanks for having me. I am so excited to have you here. We are barreling toward the end of this season. You had a reunion last week, I think. We did. How did that go? First reunion. It was not what I expected.

I think it's really hard, even for me, like my talkative ass. It's very hard to get a word in edgewise. I did not see that coming. But I think when you have all 12 of us in a room at the same time with all those big personalities and a lot to talk about. It's very hard to get a word in edgewise. And there was a lot of like historical stuff that was coming up, that it's like, I don't watch this show.

Like, I don't know. Yeah. What's going on? So it was a little bit of like an emotional and mental drain because it's also like a 14-hour day. Yeah. But I was really happy that with the way it ended. Okay.

As a newbie and as a friend to a lot of different people in this cast, I think people, people are going to be glad the way it ended. I've noticed this season. So it's your first season in the house. Obviously, like you mentioned, there's a lot of history going on. We'll get into it a little more. It does seem like you are friends with a lot of people in the house. How did you feel going into the year?

Did you have, had you watched the show at all? Did you kind of know what to expect? So I had watched a couple of episodes for like research to be like, okay, what's the vibe? and it's pretty clear right away what the vibe is, which is like the same exact thing as a regular sharehouse. So I was like, oh, I know how to do this. Like, I'm not worried about it. And then once I arrived in the house for the summer,

I feel like that worked in my favor because I was able to make friends with everybody and not take into consideration, like all the stuff that's on TV. And I'm grateful now that I got that advice in the first place because you don't see every single thing on TV. And things are very nuanced and complicated and layered like your relationships with the people in the house. And I think if you just watch it on TV, you don't necessarily get a 360 degree perspective on that. I do think it was easier for me to make friends having like zero expectations and like not really knowing like the background on everybody.

Although I do wish I watched more of the reunions before attending the reunion. I like, I feel like you found a good middle ground because some people they're like I watched every episode. I knew exactly where I fit into the group before I even met them. But then some people also were like, I had no idea what I was getting myself into. And it's like, you need to have like a mental image at least of like what you're signing up for. Yeah. And also I think like if you watch the entire show in advance and you go in thinking like here's how I fit into the group, then you end up playing a role. And like we're not characters. We're people like we're friends with each other where we have real life jobs and real life problems and really friendships and relationships.

And so like I was afraid of watching too much, creating opinions, like finding a hole for myself to like shove myself into because I'm not a character. Like I can't be shoved into a little box like that. And I was afraid that if I knew too much that I would do that. It's interesting for a few reasons that Winterhouse last season, obviously you weren't a part of. And that had been filmed but had not aired before this season of Summerhouse. So a lot of stuff happened with, you know, Lindsay and Carl and everybody talking about that. Obviously, that's where we met Corey as Bravo viewers. Did you get any kind of like debrief on things that had happened at Winterhouse?

Or were you kind of like, okay, square one summer? It was definitely more of a square one situation. Like, especially when I first arrived in the house, there was no reason for anyone to be talking about Vermont, right? Like it's like six, eight months later. I mean, so much has happened in everybody's lives, like, since Winterhouse has filmed. And so we start summer very fresh. The only time Winterhouse ever really came up was when I first met Corey, the first night he was with us, we had this big group dinner.

And it's kind of like a thing in our house where, like, as soon as a new person enters the group, we're like, are you single? Are you in a relationship? What's your type? Are we into men, women, both? Neither? Like, what's the deal? Yeah.

And so everyone's kind of grilling Corey on like, what? what his current status is with this girl he used to hook up with in Vermont. And so that was kind of the first time we had talked about it. And after that, you know, I was dating Corey when he was on his winter house press tour. So I'm kind of like hearing bits and pieces of what went down. I still haven't watched it. I feel like I don't need to. Yeah.

He doesn't have to watch the six months of my life that happened before we met on Summerhouse, nor should he. So I feel like it's only fair that we start from, you know, ground zero in our relationship. And that's how I felt about my friendships and relationships going into the summer house as well. Yeah. You, it seems like you and Corey pretty much hit it off kind of right off the bat.

Was that like, how was that just that happening like on camera in general just? I think we are such an energy match. And I always joke that like the first thing I noticed about Corey was his body because he has this like chest and these shoulders that like take up a. room. But really what takes up a room is his energy and his vibe. And as soon as he walked in, you could hear him like 10 rooms away before you even saw him with your eyes. And I was like, oh, that's like me. Like you can hear me walk into a room or a building or a house before you even lay eyes on me. And I was like, oh, that's like funny. He's like loud and crazy and like this might

be fun. And then I saw him with my eyes and I was like, oh, I don't hate this. And so I think like right away I took a little bit of an interest. But then both of us, especially like when we're flirting with people, I think, like, if we really have an interest, we're both like going to stay as far away as possible. We're going to ignore each other. Like, we're not going to make eye contact. We're not going to talk directly to each other. We definitely played coy for that whole first night. And that's how I could tell that we were both interested in each other.

It's because we were ignoring each other. It's funny you say that about his energy because he was on this podcast a few months back, which you were actually here for, which is, you know. Sneaky. Crazy. But I remember after having him here, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed his energy. Not in like a rude way, but we, I had seen him on like two episodes of Winterhouse. He's like Craig's friend. Like, okay. So I'm like dude. And I had a great time. Like I was really like charmed by him. And it's, I feel like you can watch that kind of happening with you guys on the show. Yeah. I think Corey is like a walking oxymoron. Like he looks like a walking. red flag to me. And he like, if you find him on Instagram before you meet him in real life, same thing. You're like, oh, I'm going to hate this guy. Like he is such a, like, it's overwhelmingly giving D-bag. But it's like almost a character. Like it's his alter ego. It's kind of like Kyle in the Mullet. It's like, okay, he puts on this like big frat boy, like crazy energy.

And then within like five minutes of talking to him, you realize he's like this big teddy bear. He has so much like depth beyond that like frat boy facade that he kind of puts forth. But, you know, we, especially in the beginning, it's like light, it's sexy, it's fun, it's like silly. And then you can talk to him about real stuff too. And so I think, you know, he's, you can peel back a lot of layers to Corey. And I think that's kind of where we found our deeper connection is after we started really getting to know each other better. Yeah. There was, there was definitely a dynamic when you guys were first sort of hanging out. I think Sierra had kind of expressed maybe that she had interest in Corey in

then there were a couple of like side eye kind of moments. What was it like watching that back? And then how are you guys? So Sierra had never expressed to me that she had any interest in Corey. And I even like I had known that they'd met in Vermont. Like I got that. And then someone maybe else mentioned it to me briefly like, oh, like well, Sierra like thought Corey's hot too.

So before the ho-down party where Corey and I really like, started to kind of gain momentum, I went to page while we were setting up the decorations. And I was like, just to clarify, like, is there any tape there? Because, like, Sierra and I at that point were not particularly close. We had known each other a couple weeks, and I had only seen her on the weekends, like, really didn't have any one on one time. But I know better than to walk into a group of friends and, like, see that a girl is into a guy and, like, make my home right in the middle of that.

Like, that's not who I am. It was much more important to me that I had a friendship with Sierra. So I was like if she's really interested in him, like, I don't need this. Like I've got, I've got options. I'm good. And Paige was like, no, I think you should go for it. And I think everybody kind of saw me and Corey like vibing pretty instantly. So I'm glad that was the response I got from Paige because I was like, if it were anything

else, it would have been a real bummer to try to like kind of mute that connection that I had with Corey. but Sierra and I are totally fine. Yeah, we're good. I think we mostly spend time together over the summer and we see each other at like we go to some of the same events and like whatever. And, you know, I saw her at the reunion and, you know, I don't have that much beef.

Like I'm with anyone ever. Like I'm pretty easy to get along with. And like she didn't have any hard feelings about the Corey situation. So I was like, all right, cool. We're good. Yeah. Speaking of kind of your not that much beef, we saw you in the last episode, kind of as things are developing between Lindsay and Danielle, you do seem to be sort of in the middle, in a way that I can imagine may have felt complex, especially these people have known each other for so long. You're coming in for the first time. What was the experience of kind of figuring out your place in that over the course of the summer? Yeah. I, from the very beginning,

I met Lindsay first because Danielle didn't come for the first weekend of summer and she was like, you're going to be obsessed with Danielle. Like you both love Taylor Swift. Let's start there. So like Swifties are good. And then beyond that, she was like, you guys are just going to vibe. I can like feel it because I think at the time Lindsay tells me now, but at the time Lindsay was like, I saw a little bit of me in you and, you know, Danielle and I are best friends. So I could see you guys get along really well. So we did. And as their friendship kind of started to find its rift, I and Gabby both had started to develop friendships with both of them. And we were like, okay, we can never speak to the history.

All we can speak to is like what we know of the friendship based on what they tell us. And then also what we're seeing with our own eyes here in the house. And so there were definitely times like Gabby and I both are not afraid to kind of check them when they both need to be checked or when either one of them needs it to be like, okay, like maybe you apologize here, but it was like a little bit defensive. Like you didn't let her finish, like accept the criticism, accept the feedback that she's giving you, hear it, and then like talk about how you can move forward. Don't just like, sorry, sorry, sorry and stifle it. Or, you know, like maybe it was like not cool to go around the engagement party like talking shit to Lindsay's friends who like it's obviously going to get back to her.

Right. So on both sides, Gabby and I were like, hey, you need to do a little bit better at this thing if you want the friendship to move forward and vice versa. So we definitely both tried to mediate a lot during the summer without getting to. too deep into like the historical territory where it's like not our place. Yeah. I think that's important to have someone that can kind of be a little bit of an objective like referee because even watching this season, it's like I've, you know, I've watched all the seasons. I know at least a certain amount about the history. But there are also things happening in the moment where it's like you're not approaching this in a way that is going to get you the response that you ultimately want. Right. The communication

was so, it was just like weird because it's our understanding. that they are both like pretty confrontational, right? Like they're great super direct communicators. And for some reason, they just literally could not connect all summer. And I think it's partly because the emotions were so raw that it's almost like they're too in it to like really get across, like what they need to get across when they're face to face. So it was really hard to kind of watch that because, you know, I think part of it too is like

a lot of people in the house are not friends with both of them. and so like Gabby and I and I would say Kyle and Carl being the like other people were feeling like we were like the only ones who were able to kind of mediate for them and Kyle and Carl can speak to like the history whereas like Gabby and I are doing like the girl dynamics

right like we're a bunch of girls in the house like everyone's like talking behind closed doors and stuff like we can see very clearly what's going on from a girl friendship perspective so yeah and I will say, like, I think there's been a lot of growth since the summer, which is amazing to see, especially recently. I think the group is communicating a little bit more directly, which is great. And I think the audience will get to see that throughout the rest of the season. Maybe not

until really the very, very end. But we get better, I promise. But, you know, I think it's really hard. It's a very long-standing friendship. There are a lot of layers and a lot of complicators at play, right? Like, you know, friends in a sharehouse for that long and then, like, two best friends and the three best friend groups are dating and then add the layer of, like, cameras, and then add the layer of audience and social media and, like, everything else. I honestly think their situation would have been a lot easier to recover before the end of the summer, like, if it was just stuck to the original problems, I think the fallout

of, like, the fans getting involved and, like, the press tours and, like, the press tours and, like, the, you know, all of that I think complicates things so much and makes it a lot harder to kind of get past. Yeah. Is that something that you have been approaching in a certain way? Obviously, with your relationship, it was kind of, you know, secret quote unquote, I guess, until a certain point. How have you kind of approached this experience of like, I did this thing last summer and now it's like sort of trickling out there into the world? I mean, it's weird because I think you are in it in the moment and you're like, okay, I'm a person, I did this. I either am like happy with it and I own it or I regret it. You have to kind of own it either way because it goes on TV,

right? So I think when you're watching it eight months later, it is weird because you're like, I'm a completely different person than I was eight months ago. Like I'm 25 years old. I'm not saying I'm a kid by any means. I'm an adult and I take responsibility for everything I do and say. But like I'm in a time in my life when I'm evolving at like the craziest fastest. straight. Like, I'm becoming a grown-up right now. So, like, for me, eight months ago was almost like just a, like, a fever dream. Like, when you watch it, you're like, oh, yeah, I kind of forgot that even happened. But what you do leave with that's, like, very concrete in your head is, like, your feelings about every person and every situation that happened. So, like, I, this is something

I'm learning to get better at. Like, I'm not big, like, receipts, girly. Like, I'm not, like, screenshotting all my texts, like, just in case I need to use them. Like, that's not who I am. I'm like, I don't have group drama that's like that serious that I need to like pull up the text from 2017. So I need to get better at that, I think, because like other people do do that. Right. No, it's crazy though because it is the kind of thing where sometimes that might not feel natural to you or it might feel silly or like who cares.

But then especially if you stick around and situations develop, like you don't want to be the one who's like, oh, I didn't realize this was going to be on the test at the end of the season. Right. No, literally. That's what the reunion felt like. Like someone literally was like pulling up, not like pulling up, but like talking about like how many minutes had like passed between like two things. And I was like, whoa, I'm so sorry.

What? Like are you looking at your phone like scrolling through the episode or like BTS footage that like is unedited? I just like was like, okay, I know how I felt in that moment. I know like what happened in that moment. But the level of like the most minute details always come back up. and that's very new for me. So I would say like reliving it all eight months later, like I'm watching it now and I have no regrets.

Like I have great friendships with people that I care about and like I'm happy about it. There's nothing that I say that I regret. There's nothing I do that I regret. And like there's a lot of learning that comes from like watching it back too, right? There are things where it's like, okay. Like, for example, now I need to have receipts for things just in case I get like asked questions that have time stamps. associated with them and things like, okay, well, you know, now I know the dynamic of like, we're not saying everything to each other's faces, right?

Like, there's times when people are like, I just want to say this to your face to be a good friend. And then it's like, okay, and then you walked away and closed the door behind you and talk more shit, you know? Like, I'm learning what it's like to, like in a regular sharehouse, they close the door and talk shit and you never find out. Right. And that's great.

I don't need to know. But on this show, you really do find out. Like, you watch it. And then everybody has to discuss it on national. television a couple months later. So it's a learning curve. I think you're good in the interview chair, by the way. Like the confessionals, you're, you kind of bring it a little bit. Thank you. Well, I give them a lot to work with because I never shut up. So they have options, right? Like, they've got a lot of material. Our poor producers probably have to go through

hours of me. Also, I don't know if people know this. Like we drink. Right. In the confessional chair. Like every single person, not Carl, like everyone else has like a bottle of rosé next to them. you don't even know how many glasses you've gone through because they just top it off in between takes. So, like, I've gone through, like, half a bottle of whispering angel by the time I'm, like, sitting down to talk about this, like, like, Corey spitting in my mouth, it's going to be unfiltered. Like, it's going to be a little snappier than I would be, like, sober in the chair because, like, it's just so raw, right? Right.

Like, they're like, for continuity, the glass has to be full, but that just means that you're drinking constantly. Right. They're like, you don't need to finish it. And I'm like, oh, wait, have you been filling it this whole? time. I thought I, like, wasn't drinking. They're like, no, we've topped it off like 18 times in the last two hours. I'm like, oh, amazing. Awesome. And then you see the bottle and it's like empty and you're like, damn it. Like my mom is going to come for me for that. I can feel it. There's some, it's fun to do interviews, honestly, because I think, like, I'm not super great at confrontation. It's another thing I'm

learning, like, watching the show. You know, I can be a little bit of like a middle ground person. I'm team resolution all the time, and that's not always realistic. But in the chair, like, you're alone with the producers. They ask you very pointed questions about situations where it's like, okay, you have no choice but to give your opinion. And your girl can have some strong opinions after a bottle of whispering angel. So I'm telling the truth, you know, like it's kind of one of those safe spaces to be like, you know what? Like no one wanted to hear how I felt about this eight months ago. I'm going to tell you right now. And then it gets woven in, which I think is a great way to tell the story because now you know what's going on in my head and like how I'm

approaching the situation. Right. Like you might appreciate that part of a situation isn't your business. But then when they're asking you about it in the chair, you're like, okay, let's go. Of course they had thoughts. Please. Like we get paid to have thoughts. Right. Like this is why we're here. Yeah. So I, and I honestly almost wish we had more interviews like woven into the episode so you can understand that context of like what we're thinking in that moment. They did the ultimate girls trip season that was just on Peacock. They did a thing where like it was almost like choose your own adventure on the remote and they were like, do you want to hear her thoughts about this? And you could play like all of the interview clips. I want that. It's weird though because I was like this is almost too much. Yeah, it's too much information. Like it's like having multiple personality. You're like, okay, wait, I suddenly agree with nine different people and like I don't know how to approach this. But that's real, right? Like it's funny because I think when you watch the show as like a fan, it seems so black and white. Like everything does. does. Yeah. And you're like, oh, obviously this person's right. Like, that person's crazy. But it's so

nuanced. Like, you can't possibly see just one side or the other. Like, you, if you knew Danielle and Lindsay, you could not be team Danielle or team Lindsay, like being friends with both of them. And, like, there are so many amazing qualities to, like, have that they both have. And so you are like, oh, I totally see, like, where Danielle feels like she's being abandoned by this friendship and this, like, relationship dynamic. But I also totally see how Lindsay is, like, so hurt by what Danielle is going around and saying. And I hate to keep using them as an example, but it's like, you know, the main storyline of our entire summer. So it's like that's what everyone's like top of mind about and that's where people get divided. But it's like there's so many layers to all of this.

Like you can't possibly just be like, oh, like one of them is crazy and the other one's right. Like that's not fair. Yeah. And I think because you mentioned that not everybody in the house does have a friendship with both of them, you know, like everybody has their own stuff going on. But that it kind of contributes to the idea that it's like one team versus the other when it's like watching it. I definitely feel like conflicted about kind of, you know. Yeah. And it's hard. And like, I mean, I've gotten very close with them in a very short amount of time.

Like we always joke that filming is like trauma bonding. Like we're going through it. We're fighting for our damn lives in this house. And then you come out of it the other side and you're like, we're best friends. Like we're obsessed with each other. And you know, we are all going through. something too that like no one can relate to. And so you got very close because you're kind of like these are the people you lean on like when you're having trouble because there are not that many

people who you can talk to about what you're experiencing there. So it's really hard to kind of, you know, watch back everything that happened and kind of come to terms with it now. But, you know, one thing that we kind of spoke about at the reunion is like between when we filmed the reunion, when some, you know, communications started flow in, and we started, like, heading towards multiple different kind of reconciliations within the friend group and the dynamics. Everyone kind of sat there and agreed, like, okay, now we can't let the last couple episodes, like, re-piss us off.

Like, you can't watch that and go on social media and, like, read all the fodder and, like, start being, like, pissed about it again. You need to block that out and focus on, like, your friendships and your relationships in real life and moving those forward and moving the needle. on those. So I definitely think that watching it back has its own issues that it presents, but it also allows you to see a clearer picture of what really went down. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session. And this summer, Prime Originals have everything you want. Steamy romances, irresistible love stories, and the book to screen

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airing? I got some great advice from Paige in the very beginning of the season not to go on Twitter and not to go on Reddit. She was like instant, like ever, under any circumstances for any reason. I basically like to me Instagram is like a positive largely positive like safe space it's very rare that someone that goes so far out of the way to like search your page look for a photo and comment something nasty on it like it's such a it's such a direct communication that I think a lot of people are afraid to do it so on my Instagram people are like oh my God like love watching you and like great that's amazing that's what I want to hear what was your lipstick color exactly exactly and I'm like I'll link it for you like give me that 15 cent commission

Girlie. Like, give me that. So, like, Instagram is so fun for me. And it's also a place where, like, I love to speak to the audience and be like, okay, like, here's what was really happening, like, behind the scenes and, like, in between takes and kind of give them a peek behind the curtain to show them, like, how much fun we're having and how much we actually love each other, because, you know, that doesn't always come through on the show. So Instagram is great. And Paige was, like, just Twitter and Reddit are more so places where people talk about you, not to you, and you don't, it's same as like learning what's going on behind closed doors in the house. You don't need to know. Like your life, you'll be better off not knowing what people are

saying about you, like strangers in like Minnesota on the internet behind like anonymous screen names. You don't need to know their opinion. So I just don't, I stay as far away from there as I can. And Gabby's sister, her name is Danielle, so I don't want to get it confused with our other Danielle. She and I both have backgrounds in journalism. So like we used to have to be on like Twitter all the time, right, for that reason. So she, for me and Gabby, will go on Twitter and read it and, like, do the, like, search of our names and then come back to us and be like, it's like an 8 out of 10. You're good.

You're like, you're fine. You're like, okay, so we got some good tweets. We've got some, like, a little less good tweets. Like, still sit there and read Gabby tweets sometimes to be like, if you want to know, I'll filter the out of the mean ones. It's like celebrities reading mean tweets about themselves. Like, that's like the vibe of what they do. I'm like, you don't need to read me the tweets.

I just need, like, what is the, like, favorability rate? Right, right. So like I say as far away from those platforms as I possibly can because it's just like it's a safe space for then the audience to talk without us knowing. Like give them that safe space. The thing that happens on Reddit though is that people will literally start a poster just be like, does anyone know anything about say that? Like has she ever done anything bad? Like people would be like, does anybody have dirt on page? And it's like, no.

Like, oh my God. She lost the show. We did so funny you say that because, okay, I think I'm really naive about reality. TV and like and like these kinds of things because um oh also like I'm gonna use this platform to tell people like I know I fucked up on watch what happens live instead I've never watched reality TV ever okay I guess the bachelor's reality TV fine like I don't I guess I don't consider it reality TV it's like a competition show to me like I don't know okay you don't watch like you don't watch housewives no I've never watched like a Bravo show if that makes

sense like like hitting cameras shit like that like I don't know anyways as someone who's like very naive about reality TV and the landscape of it all, like, I literally was like, well, who would go out of their way to, like, make up nasty shit about us? And I guess it's those people on Reddit. That's who it is. That's who would do that. Oh, that's horrible. That's nasty. Yeah. And also, like, I honestly feel like it's probably, like, people in high school who, like, we were, like, all dicks in high school, right? Like, we're all idiots in high school. And, like, I got bullied a shit ton in high school. But, like, as a result of that, I was probably, like, some mean, like, defensive little girl. And, like, people probably think, like,

if they knew me when I was 14 and made a nasty comment about their outfit that I'm like some bitch still like give it a rest like right I'm 25 years old I'm a whole different person then like you like I guarantee you there's some like nasty girls from high school writing mean shit about me on the internet somebody's gonna like find the yearbook picture yeah like then oh my god I had you guys I had a side part and it was like a deep one it was like an avro Levine early 2000s one those are going to surface I also um I love that you say that like it's it's like you had a prior life and crime yeah that's my scandal that's my scandal that's my scandal I had a deep side part. I also, though, like, no, like, I was really ugly in middle school

and I still, you guys. I also had, like, so I was, I did, like, commercial acting when I was in, like, middle school high school. I, similar to every, like, reality TV star ever, I modeled Party City Halloween costumes, like, find those on the internet. I did, like, ring pops commercials. Like, I was, like, one of those girlies. And so there was an era of my acting career where I needed braces because my teeth were fucked up. And my acting coach was, like, get clear what. And I was like, that's a great idea. No one will ever see them. You guys, they're so disgusting.

It just looks like food in my teeth. Oh, the clear braces? Yes. Like, I was like, I should have just got like full metal brace face. Like, at least that's like owning your shit. I was like, oh my God, I look at these pictures. And I was like, I swear to God, if anyone like puts my like middle school at yearbook photos on the internet, I will just quit. I will just go.

I'm fine. You win. You win. You win. Farewell, Bravo. Farewell career. I don't need you. Do you?

I delete it. I can't talk to you. I can't hear from you. Like, I will not recover if that makes it. Now I know a bunch of people are going to go look for it. Well, whatever. You know, we'll see. We'll see.

I'm like, I've done more embarrassing things on TV now than what I did when I was in middle school. So fine, go for it. Enjoy. I think Alex, who was on Severhouse last season, also modeled Halloween. Yeah, he did. Yeah. I think he did Spirit Halloween. Okay.

Which I think was honestly bigger. I loved doing Party City. They paid like so well and they always catered with like Chipotle. It was awesome. Wow. Yeah, I really loved my career at Party City from age as 11 to 13 and a half. That can be like a like BravoCon panel this year. Like commercial.

All the real. Commercial models. And like all the embarrassing like schicks we did. I did a Snuggies box one time. I was on the box of Snuggies. It's a big account. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. I always said to my parents like, I put myself through college. They were like, baby girl, no, you did. You think Snuggies are putting you. But I will say like the clear braces commercial model era was my very. villain origin story. So if you think I'm a bitch, that's why. Wow. That's why. It's because I had clear braces. It's all making sense now. It's all coming together. Oh, that's so sad that people go on the internet and start threads to just like find mean shit

about us. That sucks. Well, at least, you know, if Summer House doesn't work out, you can go back to your... Yeah, I can be on what's the next snuggies. There's got to be something else better out there now. I'm sure. I don't spend a lot of time on the like, as seen on TV. Oh, no. All right, well, then you're not My demographic. Whatever. Okay. So we have a couple more episodes left in the season, Denver Union. How are you feeling about what's to come?

You know, it's a lot of the hardest stuff. So, you know, being in the house, there was a lot of tension and a lot of kind of like emotions running high the last couple weekends of summer. And you see that. And I think like for me watching it, I will like physically tense up. Like my jaw will clench, my shoulders. my shoulders will rise. And it's because of like the love I have for everybody. And I'm like, please stop fighting. Please love each other. Like mom and dad, please get back together.

And so it, it's a lot of that hard stuff. Like I think episode, like last week's episode that was like so fun and light. Like there are definitely some funny moments throughout the rest of the season. We don't necessarily have all that lightness back because it is really the meat and potatoes of like the drama that goes down. That said, I do think like, you know, you. You know, you see that drama in its rawest state and you really get down to like the core of what everybody's feeling and how everybody's handling it. And so I think a lot of things kind of just come to their conclusion in the last couple episodes. Like you kind of, you get a little bit more clarity on everything. And I will say like the end of the season, like you're kind of like, okay, like what's about to happen?

Yeah. What are those last five minutes going to look like? So I think, you know, it's, I do wish there were a couple of more of those like happy moments sprinkled in so that people could see that it's really not all just the fighting and like the crying and the drama. But I think as cast, like we are all kind of committed to showing you guys that stuff on social media. Like that's a good place for that.

So, you know, you can come to us to see that we're friends and you can go to the TV to see that we're enemies and whatever you want. But, you know, we're real friends and we all have shit. You know, it's a very authentic situation. Like, I think, you know, it's kind of that stuff that you couldn't fake if you tried. Like, it's really, some of it's painful. Well, I love to hear it. I'm excited to see it.

And I'm so glad I got to talk to you today. Same. Thanks for having me. That was fun. Yeah. And thank you, everyone, for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches.

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