Mention It All - PSA: Don’t Google Gout (RHOSLC, RHOM Finale)

Episode Date: September 26, 2025

Dylan is back with another Friday episode, and right off the bat, he has some questions about certain Bravoleb music “careers.” How long do we have to play along with these delusions? He also unpacks the latest Bravoleb book announcements, before diving into an important episode of RHOSLC. Lisa Barlow rejoins the group, and immediately gets activated when she hears that her lawsuits are a hot topic. Things go off the rails between her and Bronwyn, leading all of us to wonder… what *is* gout? Dylan also unpacks the RHOM season finale, where Adriana is still spiraling from her clash with Kiki, and her friendship with Julia is on thin ice. To close things out, Dylan weighs in on which Bravo duo needs to Patch Things Up, presented by CeraVe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast, and thanks for tuning in to another Friday episode. It's Thursday afternoon as I record this. I have to be honest. But I'm so ready for the end of the week. And I hope you all are having a wonderful Friday. and we are going to get into all of it today. We've got an episode of Salt Lake City to talk about.

The gout dick has left the building. I don't know. Oh, wow. It's truly a lot to dive into. We're going to talk about the real houses of Miami finale. We've got a reunion trailer for them, and it looks like it's going to be Faya, as Adriana Demora would say and would sing, I guess. Before that, I just want to unpack.

A couple of little announcements, not announcements for me. Well, actually, announcement for me, go subscribe to our YouTube channel. YouTube.com slash at Bravo by Betches, where you can watch full video episodes every Tuesday. We had the absolutely lovely Angie Katzenavis on the podcast earlier this week. You may have listened to the episode. You may not have seen the episode. So go to YouTube and make sure you subscribe so you get those full video episodes every Tuesday. Next week, I am excited to have back on the show one of the first.

of my friends and colleagues, and in fact, Betch's co-workers, Samantha Bush, who also, you know, as Bravo Historian. We recorded earlier today and talked about Real House House of Salt Lake City, among other things. So make sure you're subscribed. We have a lot more exciting guests. I mean, October is looking pretty stacked. I don't like to give anything away until it's been recorded, because I have anxiety. And I think that people will cancel the second I tell anyone they are coming on the show. But I will just tease that we have some exciting stuff coming. up in October. So you'll want to be subscribed to our YouTube channel. And without further ado, I want to talk about, you know, something else important. And that is that Jesse Solomon is still

singing, I guess. He's still, he's doing music because I got, I got a notification from Spotify earlier this afternoon that said recently announced, you know how Spotify sometimes thinks it knows, like a concert you want to go to where somebody has merch or Taylor Swift is releasing the like 45th vinyl edition and they send you a little notification. Well, I got this one recently announced Jesse Solomon recently announced a show near you. Tap to learn more. Jesse Solomon, he is, he's not letting this music thing go. And look, I am, I'm in favor of everyone kind of shooting for the stars and following their dreams and shooting their shot and whatever other, you know, description you can put to that. He's playing at Babies All Right in Brooklyn on Tuesday,

October 28th, if you are interested in checking that out. I just have to wonder, with some of these music careers, careers, I'm using that term broadly, what's the goal here? What's the best case scenario? If you're Jesse Solomon and your music career, again, using that term in just the broadest of ways, your music career started with, with a kind of parody song about yourself on your first season of Summerhouse. And then you're kind of doing the like Michael Boubley, great American song book thing a little bit, but also putting out original music.

It's just like at what point, am I supposed to, am I supposed to take this seriously? I feel like, I feel like it's so rude to even ask, but like it, I feel like I am. And I just don't know about it.

about that. I mean, to jump ahead a little bit on the Real Housewives of Miami season finale, it has been talked about and teased and planned and plotted for weeks that Adriana is going to be doing a quote-unquote concert at the Shoma Bazaar Christmas Party, brought to you by Stephanie Shoma, Real Estate, Bazaar. It's going to be a concert. She's going to have, you know, 45 musicians on the stage and there has to be room for the piano and blah blah blah blah blah she does a three song set and guess what the three songs are um phaya can you feel the rush can you feel the rush and then the third song is some godforsaken like beethoven parody about adriana's dog that if you told me she made that up on the spot like christin wigg and will forte doing uh

what's there, Garth and Cat sketch, I would have believed you. Because it's like, literally, if you haven't watched the episode, you're going to think that I'm making this up. But it's literally like, I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. I love my dog. What are we doing here? What are we doing here? Like, okay, first of all, where's the new music? Hasn't Adriana for the last like two years been in the stew with Emilio Estefan? Larsa's like, how did we go from Emilio Estefan to I love my dog? Ruff, rah, frah, fuff. It's like, it's cute if this was like baby Mozart, like for literal babies, like listening to music while they're in the womb so they come out with like two more IQ points.

It's just, what are we, what are we doing here? And then we have to congratulate Adriana, like she has just headlined Madison Square Garden because she did a, again, concert, just, oh my God, oh my God. But congratulations, Jesse. If you're in town on Tuesday, October 28th, you go get tickets to see him at Baby's All Right, if you want. I don't know. We have a couple of other announcements in the Bravo.

you know, spin-off department. These two are books. Lisa Rina has her first memoir. You better believe I'm going to talk about it coming out on February 24th, 2026. I'm excited for this one. She looks really fun on the cover. I feel like Lisa Rina is somebody who I would like read a memoir from. And then Der Reit's memoir, we got the cover for it. I think it had previously been announced, but it doesn't come out until April of next year. And, you know, she's serving businesswoman chic on the cover. She's serving like if a selling sunset agent was going to a funeral, like that kind of vibe where it's like she's wearing black, but it's a little sexy. De Reit's memoir I'm less enthused for. I will, of course, sit down and read it if I am asked to.

If DeRite wants to come to the stew, I will fully commit to reading her book. I just, you know, I would say Lisa's is probably a little more hotly anticipated. and, you know, it is what it is. But the books aren't stopping, you guys. The books aren't stopping. One of these days, I will get around to doing, like, a proper kind of ranking of the books. Of the books. But Dorit and Lisa adding their tomes to the canon.

And with that, let's talk about Real Houseways of Salt Lake City, because that's really, like, the main event these days. We've got Potomac coming back really soon. I'm excited for that. O.C. is kind of just trucking along. We'll get back to that next week. But Salt Lake City, just a pleasure to have in class. Just a wonderful thing to get to talk about. And we wake up on this second episode of the season.

The morning after these ladies have been, you know, ravaged in the woods by Molly Sorensen, they're all acting like they survived the fucking rapture, which didn't happen, by the way. That ended up being boring. But no, they are all acting like they have had. had like Regina Hall in scary movie, a near-death experience. And I'm like, ladies, ladies, you ran around for 10 minutes with camcorders and then they put music to it and post to make it seem like you were being hunted. Nothing happened. I promise nothing happened. No, but I love seeing these ladies in nature and just, you know, looking like, you know, fish out of water every time

they're expected to do something outdoors. But they have an interesting conversation at breakfast this morning in Provo Canyon, I think is where they are. They're talking about kind of where they are in their motherhood experiences. And Heather specifically is about to be an empty nester. Her youngest daughter is going off to college. And she is kind of unabashedly excited for this. She's really ready to have parenting be a less active part of her life. And I understand where she's coming from. She talks about how since her divorce, since her husband left, she has been the only active parent, essentially. There's no split custody. There's no, you know, you take this day, I take this day. Heather has been a full-time single mom doing it on her own. And, you know,

that's a lot of work. And anybody will tell you that. And she's ready to kind of like have her time back a little bit. And I don't think that that's like a bad thing. to say. I think that, you know, obviously not everybody feels the same way. And Bronwyn kind of offers a counter to that where she's saying, you know, Gwen is 19 or whatever. She graduated. And I'm, you know, I feel like I'm not wanting to let her go because the second she leaves the house and I'm, you know, empty nester on my own, I feel like it's on me to go do something fabulous with my life. And then if I don't do that, I'm going to feel like a failure. Whereas Heather is kind of like, oh my God, my daughter's leaving. Now I get to go do all this fabulous stuff. I've waited for this. And so I think that Bronwyn

was like, I don't think that she was really trying to like nag Heather at all about her feelings on motherhood. I think she really just was like kind of relating to her and saying, my experience is kind of different, but, you know, because I feel like I have, you know, come up short or not done enough for whatever. I mean, while, you know, they're having their like, you know,

misunderstanding, disagreement, whatever. And then Whitney's like, yeah, you know, I would love to be stay at home mom, but I can't, because my business failed.

And I just, something about Whitney. Like, I love that Whitney is being open about the failure of her business. I think more, more women on house lives should be, um,

you know, should own it when they have a business venture that goes belly up. because let's face it, a lot of these ladies aren't making money from these businesses. But there's just something like, the way Whitney's talking about it, I'm just kind of like, was this ever making money? Did this seem like a good idea at the time? What are we doing here? Because she's like, Justin and I made the decision that we were going to reorganize and combine all of her resources into Wildrised Beauty. And it was going great at first. going gangbusters, we were selling so much beauty. And then it started going bad. And we had to

fire 30 people. And then, you know, we lost everything. And like, I, it's not that I don't believe her. But, like, when was Wild Rose Beauty selling like hotcakes? Like, specifically. Like, what, what dates? Because I just, Wild Rose Beauty is one of those housewives products where the amount that we have heard about it and seen it on the show just like doesn't match up with me ever hearing about it or seeing it off of the show. I mean, Vita Tequila is kind of in the same bucket if we want to point fingers elsewhere in Salt Lake City. But it's like, okay, skinny girl. It's like, I've seen skinny girl in a store before. I've, I've tasted a skinny girl product. I've been at somebody's house and they have skinny girl, you know, salad dressing or popcorn or lunch meat or whatever

the fuck. Jeans. I don't know. A lot of different products under the skinny girl umbrella. But like, I've never been at Sephora and been like, hmm, should I rebuy my, you know, summer Fridays thing? Or should I look at the Wild Rose beauty cleanser or the bath bombs? I don't know. I just, I hope that Whitney finds her way and I hope if she wants to be a stay-at-home mom, she can do that at some point because everybody should get to do whatever the fuck they want. you know, R.A. Wild Rose Beauty, I think. And the jewelry? What's up with the jewelry? I don't know. I can't get into this right now. But we are back from Provo Canyon. And, you know, after the ladies literally have to physically push the RV, adding insult to injury, really, with this rustic getaway. Heather and Lisa meet up. Lisa, I guess, has signed her paperwork to film for the season. And she jumps right into it with a little lunch with Heather. And Heather, you know, does her, does her duty? to God and Barlow, and she immediately fills Lisa in on everybody talking about her lawsuits on the RV trip. She's like, well, so, you know, Bronwyn was doing research about your lawsuits. And Lisa's like,

oh, yeah, about my lawsuits that were dismissed and the other one that's on the way to being dismissed. And Heather's like, well, I mean, what was up? What, by the way, what were the lawsuits? And Lisa's like the lawsuits aren't even a thing. Like, why are you even, you don't even like, okay, like, what are you, you're, it's literally not a thing. Like, the one was dismissed. So it's like, there's literally no claim. There's no, like, there's no claim. Like, you can't even, you can't even say it because it's not like, it's just not a thing. And I'm like, that's exactly how I would describe my lawsuits if they just weren't a thing. I would say 55 times that they're not a thing and hope that nobody, you know, peeks behind the curtain to see

whether they're actually a thing. But Lisa, I love that Lisa is taking. this conversation about her lawsuits and flipping it into a way to brag that she is in fact better than all of them. She's like, look, nobody else in this group has a business like mine. I'm living a different life than all of you. And everyone knows I do big things. And then in her confessional, she's like, look, no one sues the bottom bitch. They all. want to come for the top. And like, I'm trying so hard not to make this a gay sex thing.

But like, oh my God. No, but like, truly, Lisa has a funny way of like, I don't know if she doesn't realize or if she doesn't care how the things that she says come off to anyone else in the group that's

watching the show. Because it's like, okay, so you all think they're pieces of shit and don't have real businesses. Meanwhile, you're talking to Heather Gay, who say what you want about Heather Gay as a person or a friend or a, you know, housewife or whatever. She has a real business with multiple brick and mortar locations that is like an iconic housewives, you know, staple, the parking lot of which Chen Shah literally the feds came looking for. Like, you're talking to Madame Beauty Lab and saying that nobody else in the group has a real business. that's not really how to like win friends and influence people if we're if we're being real here.

And honestly, if she was talking to anyone else but Heather, I feel like they would be like, fuck you. Heather, you know, for better or worse, is like a little more focused on protecting her dynamic with Lisa, which, you know, whatever, to each their own. Lisa has also hurt, she's hurt that Angie wasn't sticking up for her. She's hurt that Meredith wasn't sticking up for her on this RV trip. Of course, I mean, Lisa and Meredith, Lisa and Meredith are the worst friends that anyone's ever had to each other. Like, they just, I don't think they've had more than like 10 consecutive days of getting along the whole time they've been on this show together, but we're still, we still talk about

them, like, their iconic besties who just like go through it sometimes. I'm like, I just, I don't think that they're compatible as adult women, but it is what it is. Then Bronwyn takes Whitney skiing pretty much exclusively to talk more about Lisa's lawsuits. It is interesting to me. It's becoming clear that Bronwyn has definitely done more research about this than she kind of is saying that she has. Because she's like, oh yeah, like we all sawed in the news. We all read it. It was in the Salt Lake Gazette or whatever the newspaper is called. And God forbid, I click on an article. It's like, Bronman, you're like two steps away from Monique's receipt binder at the reunion with like a dossier of everything that Lisa

has ever said in a court document. Because she's referencing specific things. She's like, no, actually in the documents, it was said that the Amex was in somebody else's name. Your Honor, she didn't want her husband to know. She was borrowing money behind his back. It's like, that's not the kind of thing that someone would bring up if they just like casually open an article that their friend sent them

and were like, ooh, that's crazy, five lawsuits. So I don't have an issue with Bronwyn digging around in Lisa's business because that's kind of like a bedrock of housewifery. But I do think it's a little bit, it's a little bit annoying for Bronwyn to act like she has less of a dog in this fight than she does because it's clear that she fucking hates Lisa. And that's fine. We get another scene in this episode of Mary talking to Robert Jr.,

which is, I mean, it's just tough. Their whole situation is not fun to watch right now. It's obvious that maybe some progress has been made from where they were last season. Like when, um, when he says that he is kind of still coping and he's using food and drugs, like it sounds like they're talking about smoking weed, which was not the drugs that they were talking about last season. So like, you know, progress is progress. But clearly it's still really weighing on Mary. I mean, it's, it's, it's hard for her. It sounds like Robert Sr. was involved somehow in the off season, you know, kind of figuring out this whole situation.

It's just, it's tough. And I, you know, I hope that. they are doing okay. I don't know. Heather and Bronwyn meet up. They're talking about their, you know, motherhood convoy misunderstanding from the RV trip. Again, it just seems like Heather and Bronwyn don't super want to be friends.

Because like, they're just starting to kind of like maybe talk about moving on. And then Heather's like, yeah, I wish you would have said that at the RV trip so we could move on in the moment. And Brownwin's like, well, you know, Heather, I would love to have these conversations with you, but I just, you know, I feel like you don't. And then Heather's like, well, I feel like you always come out with your word salad. And it's just like, okay, let's not pretend to want to be friends if we don't actually want to be friends because they, they leave this lunch with like the world's most tenuous truce, the world's most delicate understanding with each other. You know, because Heather's like, why are you dropping? Lisa's receipts after saying that you wanted to be closer to her before. Bronwyn says that she's just meeting Lisa where she's at because after the reunion,

she went hard on Bronwyn. And, you know, Bronwyn says that Lisa's friendship is coloring what Heather thinks of her, which is probably true because I don't think Bronwyn. Bronwyn hates Lisa, and I don't think Bronwyn likes Heather that much. So I think one of my, if I could give a homework assignment to Bronwyn and Heather for this season, it would be to maybe be a little more honest with themselves and with each other and also with us about whether they actually like each other and want to be friends. Because that is one thing, one housewife's trope that I sometimes don't love is when people are saying or

acting like they really like someone and want to be their friend. And over and over again, we just can't quite get on the same page, but I like you. I want to be friends with you. You're so, you're so great and fun. and I want to have a good friendship. It's okay to say, Bronwyn, not my favorite. I respect her.

I hope that we can be cordial. I don't think we're going to be friends, at least not right now. And it's okay to not then six times throughout the season, sit down and talk about how you can possibly work on your friendship. I think OC has struggled with that this season a little bit, where it feels like if Jen and Tamara are going to have the same conversation, five different times throughout the season,

maybe we've got to find something else to talk about, right? Salt Lake City is not in like a problem area with that yet. I just think, something to keep in mind as we get deeper into this season. But the episode really culminates at this random woman Amy's Saturday social. I don't understand. We have been in Salt Lake City for six seasons with these women. Why all of a sudden are we creating characters out of thin air, and being like, Salt Lake City doesn't really have socialites, but the closest we have is this woman, Amy.

She has people over to her house, and it's fabulous. So let's go to Amy's house and fight there. It's like, just go to a restaurant. Go to one of your houses. Why are we wrecking Amy's Saturday Social? Because this, of course, is Lisa's first time filming with the group this season. She shows up. The music is ominous. You know, it's like almost like Molly Sorensen is back in the room with us. And Lisa, you know, comes in and she's on one because she's heard that, you know, people were talking about her at the RV trip. And right away, Lisa's talking to Brittany. And Britney lets it slip that Angie compared her to Jen Shaw. Ding, ding, ding, round one. Like, this is so, you knew it was going to come out sooner, sooner rather than later probably. And this sends Lisa a spiraling because she's like, fuck that, fuck that. I was a great friend to Angie. I went the distance. her. I love that Lisa's pulling back out, going the distance. Like, that's now just like something that she says. She's like, I'm at the distance for her, whatever that means. Um, so then Lisa grabs Angie and then suddenly Bronwyn is there too. Like, Bronwyn, I think that Bronwyn is like

a little too hungry for a fight because I would have liked to see Lisa and Angie kind of talk through their stuff first. And then I think the Bronwyn thing could have been a little bit separate, but it, it escalates quickly. And this is when. as Bronwyn is kind of throwing out, you know, she's talking about the Amex, she's talking about the legal documents, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Lisa calls Bronwyn a gout dick sucker. A gout dick sucker. Wow. I just wasn't prepared for this to be in episode two, because actually, gout dick sucker was in the season trailer, and I was thinking, okay, that's going to be, you know, episode 14, there's going to be some party, that's going to be this season's, like, big climates.

mactic moment and they want to tease it early. Episode two, I'm clutching my pearls. Just a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. Everybody thought gout was in the feet. Whitney's confused. Nobody wants to look it up. I've been told not to Google it. I haven't Googled it.

I don't plan to. And if anyone is thinking, please don't post a photo of a gout anything, especially not a gout dick, but like, I don't need to see a gout foot either. Or like a gout. Wherever you can have gout, I don't. need to see it. But this was a lot. And, you know, Lisa's upset, Bronwyn's upset. The women are screaming at each other. Lisa says Bronwyn didn't go to college. Why is she acting like a lawyer? Bronwyn says that Lisa should go to work to pay her lawsuits. It's not, this isn't ending well.

And I love more than anything in the midst of just chaos. We cut to the men, the men of the group in another room, just standing around in a circle, probably drinking some bourbon or something. And Seth Marks is just asking Jared Osmond earnestly if he is in love with Brittany. It's like, so, so are you in love with her? Like, what a, what a bachelor-ass question to ask? So it's like, okay, so you have love for her, but are you in love with her? Truly just so disconnected from what is happening with their wives or on and off girlfriends in the next room. And I love that for them. But this episode, wow, what a, what a bang.

I mean, this season is off to a great start. There's a funny moment, too, where Lisa is, like, starting to cry in the confession. I was like, I was a good friend to Angie. And you can see that one of her eyes has a lot more eye makeup on it than the other. And somebody, I saw a TikTok and it's like, why didn't glam finish Lisa's smoky eye? Just little things like that, little moments, and then big moments. I love this show. I love this show so much.

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don't think that I'm going to let Julia Lemagova's opera fascination pass me by because, so Julia has adopted these two boys this year. So now she wants to help find more, you know, people adoption homes. So she's hosting an event with the Florida opera and this adoption thing, but it's not raising money for charity. It's just raising awareness, I guess, and also offering Julia an opportunity to sing to a room full of people. And the way that they do this, so Julie, there's somebody at a piano, and Julia is singing Karo Mio Ben, which is one of the most famous, you know, classical pieces to sing. But she's like singing it along. with an actual singer who's like, they're facing each other. And so it's like we're watching Julia

have a voice lesson, except for it's not a voice lesson because they're not stopping and making corrections or working on anything. They're just kind of like singing this song that's not a duet as a duet, but one person's good and one person's not. And again, I'm like, what are we doing here? like I would rather just hear the actual opera singer singing the actual opera piece and just Julia maybe can sit and politely clap at the end. How about that? Also, in her end of season little title card, it says that Julia co-starred in the production of Carmen at the opera. I'm like, co-starred is what? Like, for what? What did she do? sometimes they'll do like a little walk-on role where it's like oh it's like this famous person

is like standing with the chorus for a song for a second and you can like say that you were like appeared with the opera it might be that kind of situation i'm like this this lady back it up back it up no but earlier marisol has a christmas party at the same time that alexia is having happy hour at the beauty bar they failed to communicate for the first time in their adult lives and this is what happens. And so Lisa, Kiki, and Julia go to the beauty bar, and everyone else is at Marisol's. And really the main function of this, I guess, is that it gives us a chance for Adriana and Kiki to talk shit about each other to, you know, each to half of the group. And also for Adriana to, you know, to be mad at Julia.

So basically, Adrianna and Kiki are still mad at each other over the Ratchett slash Ratchett and Birthday Cake. old comment. And meanwhile, Adriana's mad at Julia for going to comfort Kiki rather than staying with her. And so Gertie's in Adriana's ear basically telling her that Julia is a bad friend to her. You know, love to see that. And the other interesting thing that happens at this beauty bar event is that Peter, Alexia's older son, is telling Alexia that he doesn't want Frankie living with Todd again after what he, did to them before. And I don't say this very often, but like, I'm team Peter in this situation. Because Alexia seems to have just been kind of like coasting through whatever situation ship phase she

and Todd her in. And she's like, I, poor, before, maybe we get back together. Maybe we don't. I don't know. I can't tell it. But I'm in love. I know that I don't feel single because I'm still married and I'm in love. And we'll see what happens. And in the confessional, they ask Alexia if Todd has apologized to the boys at all for how things went down? And she's like, no, no, he hasn't. Because why would that matter? You know, who cares? Who cares?

But Alexei's like, oh, but that's why we haven't moved in together yet. And it's like, but you're like maybe not getting divorced. So like, I don't know. But then we cut to Stephanie's Christmas party. As I talked about Adriana's concert happens, Adriana's like 10 minutes late for the performance. and Stephanie is doing a whole performance of her own, which is like, I can't believe that she's so late.

She's ruining my whole party. Okay, 10 minutes, like, oh, she's not coming. Oh, what's happening? I give her the whole space. I give her the space to do a concert, and this is how she repeats me. She's ruining my whole event. Just like, can we keep fucking chill out for a second?

Again, I don't think we've seen fun, Stephanie, once this season. I don't know. Kiki and Adriana feel okay for the time being. Jody and Larsa are even cordial with each other. Things seem to be going kind of okay until after Adriana's concert, when Julia pulls her to the side and asks, you know, she's like, you did a great job. I love the concert. Also, why didn't you come to my opera adoption event? And Adriana says that Julia is jealous of her doing music and she wants to be her because she just started singing last year.

and Adriana's been doing music for like a long time. She says you're mischievous and you're toxic and now the mask is off and I see you for exactly who you are. And I'm sorry, like for the reasons that I have previously stated, it is so laughable to me that these women think they're bickering over who has like a more real music hobby. It's a hobby. You guys, this is a hobby. You guys can share the hobby. You can both sing poorly as your hobby. Nobody is stopping you. Just truly so crazy. Adriana is really like, I think Adriana feels like she's on the outs with this group because Julia was her bestie. And now Julia is clearly not her bestie anymore. We know they're not speaking after the end of the season. So Adriana is like throwing out the whole, I brought you to the group. I gave you your moment. You're a user. Like this is classic. like, you know, scorned housewife behavior.

But then Marisol pipes in. And Marisol says, she kind of throws a bomb at the very end of the episode. She says that actually, you know how Adriana said that she meant to say wretched instead of ratchet? And that was the whole misunderstanding. Marisol says that she was the one who thought of the word wretched and told Adriana, you should say that that's what you meant. You're welcome. I'm saving your ass by giving you this excuse.

And now, in exchange, don't come from me for the next two years. Which I gotta say, Adjurona says that this is evidence of how Marisol is manipulative. I think it's kind of genius. Throw your nemesis one bone one time and say, look, because I'm being nice to you in this exact moment, keep my name out of your mouth for the next two years. That's a bargain.

that's a that's a that's clever that's clever work i'm impressed with marisol so then when marisole heard that adriana was talking shit about her and calling her manipulative and you know getting in stephanie's ear and all of this marisole said fuck fuck that i told you not to mess with boopie and now you're messing with boopie so i'm gonna mess with you i'm like who's boopi who's monkey who's who's mighty mouse it's a lot to keep track of um but marisol's throwing it out there and i i think that this Adriana, just like, when she is desperate, she just kind of flails and hits whoever's close to her. And it just like doesn't, it doesn't land. It's not landing with me right now. And I almost wonder if it would make sense for next season of Real Houseways in Miami to get rid of both Julia and

Adriana. Because like Julia, I mean, I'm good on Julia. I've seen enough. I've certainly heard enough of the singing, my God. But like, Adriana, I like, I value her as a member of this franchise, but you do kind of have to ask yourself, like, when have we gotten what we're going to get? I don't know, just a thought. I don't even know if that's what I actually want to happen, but it's something that's on my mind after watching this finale. I am very curious to see how this reunion goes. I feel like Miami kind of always brings it for the reunion, no matter how the season was. It's three parts. It starts next week. And of course, we will be back to talk about it.

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And I have to say, these last few weeks since Katie left the building have been just a little bit dull. And I'm not saying, I'm not saying that there's nothing going on. I'm not saying that these women can't make a compelling show without Katie. But I will say that I think maybe they acted a little bit irrationally in sort of, you know, voting her off the island. So I would love to see maybe at the reunion, maybe by next season, just at some time, I would love to see the ladies of Orange County patch things up a little bit with Katie, at least a little. I mean, she made some mistakes. She's not perfect. Nobody is. But I just think, you know, Real Housewives is not survivor. We should not be jumping to conclusions that lead somebody to leave in a huff in the middle of the season. And I understand why Katie felt like she needed to do that. But now it's just kind of like, what are we talking about? What's going on? There's not enough, there's not enough other substance to really hold my attention. And now that we are getting into, you know,

the back half of the season, suddenly it's like, okay, ladies, we got to, we got to think of something quick. And I think that, you know, Katie is an interesting figure, you know, two seasons into Housewives. Obviously, she's ruffled a lot of feathers. I think a lot of fans see her differently than a lot of women that she's on the show with, which is always a little bit complicated. But I think that it would be in everybody's best interest to find a way to kind of like smooth things over, patch things up. And at the end of the day, like, it's not that deep. Right? Like, that's the thing on Housewives. Like, I always think about this where it's like, whatever you're fighting about, with some exceptions. You know, if.

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