Mention It All - Pump Rules Rewind Ep. 7: In Love With Someone Else

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

As Dylan and Sami near the end of their VPR rewatch journey, they reflect on what a whirlwind this season was, and the sobering realization that Jax really was the number-one guy in the group. They also unpack Jax and Laura-Leigh’s distressing breakup convos, Stassi’s nonexistent commitment to her writing career, and Scheana’s meteoric rise from the bottom of the heap. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I can't believe we are on our last two episodes of season one already. I know. Obviously, when we planned out to do this series, looking ahead, you know it's only eight episodes plus reunion. And I was like, okay, that doesn't sound like a lot. But then watching it, I'm like, wow, they really have to move this series. story along. I mean, we've only, we've recorded this obviously like over the course of several weeks. And so it feels like things have been taking their time to develop. But when you think about the fact that a relationship like Stasi and Frank or Jackson, Laura Lee really is like a matter

of days, weeks, you know, maybe like. Oh yeah. At one point in Jack's comments that this was like the best sexual two weeks of my life where I actually wrote it down. He said, It's like last time on Vanderbrenn's, he said, oh, this is the most sexually fulfilled last two weeks I've ever had. The last two weeks. And there won't be much time left. We are talking today about episode seven, season one, in love with someone else. The episode titles are so dramatic, but also they're pulled like directly from the commentary.

But this episode really one of the big things is that it is the downfall of Jackson. and Laura Lee's romance for the ages. We start off with them going to this place called Sweat Shop, which is a pun that I think is probably quite offensive. But not as offensive as the joke that Jack's made about talking to her dad through the glass because he was trying to say like talking to her dad who is in prison. So this is a sweat shop, I guess, is a place where, you're just going in a sauna essentially instead of working out.

Like, it's very like, oh, it's like health and wellness. And Laura Lee's very into this. And Jax would rather be eating a burger. But the lady at the front desk is like, well, thank God we saved you from that. It's like, okay. It's like a detox thing. Yes. And Laura Lee is six days sober.

She reveals. Yes. So we were told in a prior episode that Laura Lee was, I think, five months sober. We know that in the past she has been addicted to meth, but currently I think alcohol is kind of her more present addiction. But yeah, the revelation that she is now only six days sober and Jacks really can't handle the idea of dealing with somebody who is like actively struggling with addiction. I think he was fine when he was able to compartmentalize it and be like, damn, she's had a rough past and like that sounds crazy. But like now she just wants to fuck all the time and she's real good at it. Right. I also don't want to like blame Jacks for

Lorel Lee's sobriety 10 years ago. But I have a feeling that getting involved with him and the sort of emotional roller coaster that that very short relationship was was not good for her sobriety. I mean, I feel like it's famously a rule that if someone's trying to stay sober that you're not really supposed to get into any, like, serious relationships or it's, like, not advised just because it can become sort of like a crutch similar to a drug. So I just feel like, to me, those things can't be separated, most likely. Definitely not. I mean, they're, they go to, I guess it's an AA meeting. They never actually really like explain what this gathering is, but it seems like people are going around sharing their stories and whatnot.

Maybe, maybe Bravo couldn't get clearance to film a real AA meeting. So this is just kind of like a hangout. Maybe they got like people to improv an AA meeting or real people who are like agreeing to film an A, whatever, you know, formal one. But Laura Lee starts sharing in this meeting and, you know, she's talking about her past in really honest terms that she was, you know, stealing money from her parents. and really, you know, in a dark place as an addict.

And Jacks just cannot handle this information. He looks like he's going to shit a brick. He asks to go talk to her. They step aside. He says that he likes her a lot, but spending every day together is a bit much. And he wants to be able to miss her. So he wants to spend time with her. And then they part ways for a couple days.

And then he can be like, man, I miss her so much. And then he says, this is roughly. He says it's a full-time job to date somebody that's an alcoholic. And it's like, it really does. I don't think that he's like expressly blaming the problems on her, but he certainly is blaming the problems for why things aren't great between them. Yeah, I think that that's just what he's grabbing on to. But he also says to her when he says that he wants to slow it down, he says, I want to

slow it down a little bit, but not our intimate vibes. I don't want to slow that down. So basically he just wants to fuck her because he had said he'd have the most sexually fulfilling last two weeks of his life. But he doesn't want to deal with her emotionally, which she's while she's clearly getting very attached to him because they're spending, in her words, like all day together.

So I think for him, she was a distraction from Stasi and also trying to kind of like play games with Stasi at the same time by making her jealous. And Laura Lee's like in a really key part. of staying sober for herself. And she is like now emotionally in the throes of dealing with Jacks, who is famously an amazing liar and quite emotionally manipulative. Right.

And it is, it's tough to see Laura Lee kind of get dragged into this thing that really should have nothing to do with her, that it's all of these issues that are happening with the group that ends up being the main cast of the show. And Laura Lee is kind of like collateral damage and the most depressing. way. And I mean, we'll talk later. She gets to live her dream for a little bit. But Well, she was on Gossip Girl. Laura Lee's acting career, that can be a separate conversation for a separate time. You know, I do just want to say, Pedro Pascal made like one appearance on 90210 when he was younger.

And now he's him. That's true. So we could be seeing Laura Lee on a prestige network in any time now. Also, I look. Orly, if you're out there, get out there. I went to her Wikipedia page. She's still only 32 years old. Okay. So she's younger than me. She has time.

She could be 40 under 40. That is wild to think that it's like we're watching this show from 10 years ago. And she's still only 32 years old. I mean, she was a little younger than Stasi, I think. Stossi's famously 23 years old. Right. So she's an adult and she needs an adult partner. It is kind of crazy to watch this season and think about their ages because now.

they're all just kind of like grown adults. But at this time, it's like Stasi was so young. You know, they were all, I mean, some of them were younger than others, but just like a different time. Totally different time. So there's this rooftop pool scene. And all of a sudden, I mean, Sheena really is kind of like the central figure in the group. Kristen and Stasi both want to hang out with Sheena, but not with each other. And it is like, again, how short this season is, the amount that has to have.

happen in just a few episodes. It is wild the trajectory of Sheena in this season. And I forgot that she really ended season one kind of as the number one girl in the group, almost. Right. Well, if you think about it, it makes sense dramaturgically because she started on the bottom. And the show is clearly centered around Sheena and Stasi. That was like the formal storyline looking back.

Like Sheena and Stasi are enemies and then they're friends. and, you know, Sheena comes in and the upstart who challenges Stasi's reign. And, you know, it really, like, you couldn't have written it better. Yeah. So they're at this event. You know, Stasi has to work on her column for Pandora. More on that in a minute. Kristen was mad because there was, like, she got invited over text, but then she wanted

there to be, like, a specific follow-up text, I guess, like, begging her to come. I think they were saying, like, should we text, Chris? Kristen and they were like, she was already invited. And they were like, no, Stasi was, Stasi didn't want them to encourage Kristen to come. But they were saying like, she'll feel bad if we don't encourage her to come. Right. Even though ironically, if anyone were to do that, it would be Stasi.

Yeah. It would be mad that she wasn't like begged to come somewhere. Right. So then Kristen does ultimately show up. She acts, you know, she and Stasi are pretty cold toward each other. But Stasi says that she doesn't want to be rude or classless or inconvenience anyone. So she's going to pretend that things are okay with Kristen. Okay.

So weird. My subtitles for that said, I don't want to be rude or classist. And I was like really trying to understand what I rebounded it three times. I was like, what about this? Did they cut something out that was, make this classist? I didn't have subtitles on. I didn't have subtitles on, but I did have to watch it a couple times because it sounded like she said classist.

But I also was like that doesn't make sense. But it is funny. Nothing she said before or after. Yeah. There have been numerous times this season that the women have thrown out the idea of being Classy or Classless. And it's just so funny that they have this idea that anything about this show feels classy. Well, I think it's like, you know, I feel like, okay, what year was Money Camp bought you class out?

Because I do feel like in the early years of Bravo, Bravo's come up, that they're the concept of class was frequently weaponized by its, by its cast members on almost every show, like have some class. Like that was always kind of a thing that women were, like that was really held on a pedestal as a quality that you should have. Yeah. In reality TV.

And like the aesthetic of these women who are in their 20s, trying to look put together and on a budget, you know, that they want to look classy. They're going to throw on a big statement necklace. They're going to throw on a nice going out top and put their hair up in a big bun. And that is classy. Whether it has anything to do with like actual like class status is kind of a classy behavior. Right. Like, okay, we're all, we're all here for one reason.

There is an interest. I just do want to say there is an interesting correlation between someone's obsession with class and their fondness for statement necklaces. I'm just going to throw that out there. I mean, the countess herself. Have you ever rearranged your furniture and discovered the carpet underneath looks brand new while the rest of it looks, well, not so new? It's time for a carpet upgrade.

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Pandora's website, and Pandora tells us that Stasi is supposed to be doing two columns a week on the website, and that Pandora hasn't received a column from Stasi in two months. Okay, I'm sorry. Hearing that, it's like, fire her. Why on earth has this not been addressed already? Right.

Like, haven't you said something? Why is this the first time this conversation's happening? And then they're just going to basically, not to spoil it or anything, but they're going to basically tell her she has another chance. I mean, I don't think that's spoiling it. Yeah, fair enough. 10-year-old episode of TV that we're spending 20 minutes talking about. So they bring Stasi in for this meeting.

Pandora's rattling off. At her house. At Lisa's house. Pandora says that she has 25 to 35 people working for her, which like... She must mean freelancers. I guess. They have to be freelancers. Like, come on.

That's how a website would work in those days. Like she means like 25 to 35 people who submit columns. I don't ever remember the content being that robust. But maybe it's because they were all like Stasi and only handing things in once every two months. Yeah. I mean, back in the day, divine addiction might have been hot on betches.com's heels. Oh, totally. Totally.

I mean, only one of us made it through the phases, the different phases of media. Pandora, if you need a job. We have 25 to 35 people who you can manage. Oh, my God. But so Stasi says that she fell off track and it's been a rough two months. And so, of course, they're going to give her a little extension, but it's the last one. But yeah, it's like you fell off track. Like, right, right.

It's like a 500 word. Okay, I do just want to say. So now I'm understanding that the filming was like a two-month period that this whole thing was kind of going through. And that makes sense why Jackson, Laura Lee would only be two weeks. So, okay, I just want to say that every time they've shown what Stasi is doing for the Divine Addiction, and maybe we can Google it and see if it's still around. But at one point when she was talking to Frank about her column, it was literally just like the head are like casual chic.

Do you remember? And Frank was redoing her whole closet because she had to write her column about casual sheik. Okay. And then in this episode, and Pandora's calling her while she's on the roof with Kristen and all of them and trying to not be near Kristen. So Pandora's calling her.

She doesn't answer her because she doesn't have the column. This precedes the meeting that happens at Lisa's eventually. And they show her laptop for a second. And it's literally like a bullet, like probably maybe between 10 and 15 bullets of just like a few words, but not even full sentences that are going to become a column. And she, and then they show her ordering a tequila soda from the, she's like, can I have another? a tequila drink, please, from the bartender while she literally has her laptop open on the bar and just like, you know, a few words on bullet points. I'm like, this is, this is what you haven't been turning in. And also, the irony is that, like, Lisa's whole thing is like, well, I give Stasi

special treatment at Sir because she works for Pandy and these friends with Pandy. And I don't know, Pandora really seemed to pull rank in that conversation. Did you pick that up? Yeah, I mean, Tassie shows up to the roof with her computer and she's like, I have to do this thing. Or Pandora is going to kill me. And she's like, girl, there's no Wi-Fi up here. And she's like, fuck. And it's like, you don't need Wi-Fi to write like a few sentences on a word document. Right.

And like- She's not doing like meticulous research online. Right. It's like your opinions on casual sheet. I will do some digging and see if like the Wayback machine still has any of those divine addiction columns because, God, I would love to know what Stasi thought about casual chic in 2012. We should also try to get a screenshot of her bullet pointed list.

I'm curious what was there. Was it statement necklaces? Yeah, I will dive into that and let you know. But we get a fun, like little in-between scene of both of the Tom's and Jacks, allegedly working out in the park. They're really like just, you know, playing. I don't know. It felt like a play date.

They were like not. working out. Not working out. But Jax is in disbelief that Tom and Katie hung out alone the night before. He's like, he's like, no, man, that's lame. You gotta hang out with the bros. But they're talking about how both Kristen and Katie always tell their boyfriends, how good of a boyfriend Jacks was to Stasi. And knowing what is about to come in the finale next episode, it is wild to see how hard these people are still kind of like caping for Jacks. They all want him to be the number one guy in the group. They're happy to be like his, I mean, maybe Sandoval wasn't really happy about it yet,

but they like kind of treat him with deference the way the women treats Dossy. It's very interesting. I also forgot, Jacks, or Tom Sandoval is really not that present in these episodes. Like he was in the cast at the time. time. There were, you know, there were only six of them, but it really feels like the women and Jacks are carrying 95% of the storyline. And Tom Sandoval is just kind of there. And I, I hadn't really recalled that, but it was, you know, watching these last two episodes of the season, I was like, I don't feel like Sandoval is really giving anything. No, he really wasn't. I think they probably

weren't even like, sure if he was going to be part of the part of the, part of the, like main cast at that point. And that's why I think there's always been sort of this like latent rivalry between him and Jacks, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, Jacks, for better or for worse,

is so pivotal to the story happening. It feels like in a way it's, it's the Stasi and Sheena thing, but also Jacks is just so present. And this episode especially, I mean, the stuff that's going on with him and Laura Lee, his stuff with Stasi in next episode in the finale,

like it does, you know, Jack, like, I don't think there's any denying that in this season, Jax was the number one guy in the group. Oh, for sure. And it was structured that way. It was structured around Stasi, Jax, and Sheena. If Sheena wasn't dating Shea, then there would have probably been a whole love triangle there, too, or potential for it. Or, like, she would have been messing with someone else in the group.

You know, I think that, like, they were working with what they had, and they knew that Stasi would make the most, Stossie was kind of like, in real life. she was the ringleader. So I think they were like, okay, Stasi's going to be the ringleader. We're going to play that up. And, you know, she has this drama with Jacks. Jacks fucks anyone. So just like put girls in front of him and you'll have a story.

Yeah. Speaking of Sheena, her kind of like thing this episode is that Lisa's having this dinner for her friend Mohammed, Mohammed Hadid. And so sheena was originally asked to work at this dinner. but then it turns out that Brandy is going to be there. So Lisa drops Sheena from the dinner, but Kristen is getting pulled from her Sir shift to work the dinner. So Sheena's going to get sent to do Kristen's shift,

but Sheena wasn't supposed to work that night originally, and she had to miss a big audition to do it. So she's, like, pissed off about having to work at Sir, and she decides to leave. I mean, this whole thing is kind of like neither here nor there in terms of the actual storyline, but I was a little bit annoyed that the whole, whole actual like brandy and whatever housewives storyline was kept off of vanderpump

rules because there was all this talk i'm sure watching the episodes like back to back they probably connected a little bit more but i'm like i want to see brandy like why are we talking around brandy but we never see her on vanderpump rules i wonder if that was like a production thing like maybe they were filming for both shows kind of simultaneously and maybe they didn't want to like pay Brandy to be on Vanderpump rules or something. Like, or maybe she didn't want to be on it. Yeah.

Maybe it was like, you know, I feel like that was probably, I feel like if that they could have made that happen, it would have probably happened. Yeah. Because why wouldn't they want that? I agree.

I think it definitely felt like a production contractual thing. But I think the, the storytelling would have felt more natural. If we then like also saw Lisa's party on this episode, because it was a little bit like, okay, we're watching all of the McKinsey. of who's working there, but then not the actual event.

Yeah. It doesn't really, right. I was expecting to see them. And I think today they would have made sure that that happened. But I have a feeling that maybe Brandy was like, I do not want to interact with Sheena at all. Because what Lisa was saying was that it was like a few weeks later, you know, that it was still raw for her. And I think that it really was. Like, I don't think that Brandy was playing this up.

Like, I think she was really hurt by this. If you follow Brandy Glanville on Twitter, which I can't quite recommend, but, you know, she's, she's on there. She still fucking hates Sheena. So, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. I think Sheena's heart is in the right place, but that relationship is never actually going to be good. No.

And I think that fine. Like, she doesn't have to be good, especially not so soon after. Yeah. But I actually find it interesting when they, well, first, can you imagine what the world would be like if Sheena went to that audition? Like, what if she got the part and this? Audition for what? Like, we don't even know though. It's so nebulous.

The Pink Power Ranger? It's so vague what these people are actually doing and striving for. Aside from Laura Lee, it feels like, okay, you're, you're doing a photo shoot. You're at band. Well, they get paid for that. Yeah. They get paid for that for photo shoots. And then she, I believe, was like auditioning to be in things.

Yeah. Everyone in L.A. was. Like, that was, they all were doing that. Except maybe I don't think Stasi was really doing that. No. I don't really think Katie or Kristen were. Stassie was busy with her bullet points and word documents. Yeah, exactly.

Telling you how to wear a bandit skirt. Stossie and Laura Lee have a little talk at Sir, which I, it was, it was tough to get through. Laura Lee says she's not afraid of Stossie. She calls her spoiled. Spools little bra. So Stossie drags her for how. How she says, spoiled. She calls Laura Lee a single white female.

And then Laura Lee says, you need to take your victim tampon out of your ass and take some responsibility. I'm so happy because that's the one quote I wrote down from the whole thing also. She's perfect. Laura Lee is, she's like really funny. Laura Lee and the most extras. She really is. Like she is, I don't know. I find Laura Lee.

Such a great, really underrated character. And I don't know. I love how they create conflict using their work dynamics. That's something that we're missing now. And I think that's why the show has started to feel more produced in later years because they didn't have to actually have conflicts being around each other. Right. Stasi and Laura Lee having this full-blown argument.

And then Stasi huffing, you know, Peter walking in and being like, you guys, caught it out. You're at work. and Stasi begging to be cut from her shift and he's like, it's a Friday night. Like, what do you want me to do? It's a Friday night. I was also very concerned because was this the same night as the Muhammad party? Because are we now down Kristen and we're down, Sheena, and we're down Stasi? Like, is this all one night that we are down all these servers?

It's a little tough. I think that was a different day because then in between we see Lisa going to see Tom Sandoval and her son Max perform at the Viper Room. Just, just, you know, random bits of, of scenes in between. But then there's a whole other scene at Sir that we have to talk about at the end of the episode where Jacks is crying at the bar. He asks Stasi to talk and he tells her that he wants her to keep him in mind, give him a chance. He doesn't have another girl in the picture and that Laura Lee was just a distraction. Stasi tells him not right now, but maybe someday, you know, keep trying.

Maybe in a year or two. Maybe in a year or two. But this is when we get the Laura Lee and Jacks blow out that is really just something to behold. Basically, it seems like Jack's pretty much ghosted Laura Lee, according to her. Yeah. I mean, she says that he hasn't, he went from seeing her every day to not answering her texts and calls. This is where I get confused with the timeline. Like, when did Stasi tell off Laura Lee and then beg to be off her shift?

Then when did Jax beg for Stasi back hysterically crying? And then I assume that there had to have been a few days between the begging and the, yeah, and the, you know, this conversation. My favorite part of this was, was that Jax was trying to actively bartend. And there was like two people waiting for. Yeah, Vakasota. Okay. Okay.

He's a terrible person. He's like, sorry, I just got to get one more ingredient here. This bitch is crazy. That moment is the most Jacks has ever focused on his job because Loreley is like yelling in his face and he's like, sorry, you know, got to ring up another strawberry. He's like, are you really going to do this now with people? I mean, I'm so sorry about this. I hate to give Jack's credit, but Loreley was, I would say, being extremely unprofessional

as an employee in that moment. She's like yelling at the customers that he doesn't want you to know that he's a horrible human being. He says, you want me to hang out with you while I'm still in love with someone else. That's a knife, a dagger in the heart. She says that he befriended her on Facebook without saying anything. That was his way of breaking up with her very 2012. And then, of course, her iconic comment about, sorry, I've been inside of you every day without protection. She is just, she, this is why you guys.

to bring her back on the show. Like, she was perfect. You know, she made her mark on this show. But also, my favorite is that she's like, you can't bully me out of here until I am on the red carpet with a job. And you're going to say, you wish you were nice to me then. It's like, okay, that you really are letting it out. Yeah. I mean, and true to her word, we'll find out what happens in the season finale. But, uh, but Laura Lee, not long for this serving job at sir. This can't be good for her sobriety. I do have to say that. I feel like this is the moment to say,

Laura Lee, thank you for your dramatic contributions this season, but we really, really just want you to be well. Yes, yes. And I'm going to find out what she's up to now. Or,

you know, as soon as we get off this, I'm going to go look her up. You do your research on Laura Lee. I'll find the divine addiction posts from 2012. And we'll meet back here and discuss. But in the meantime, thanks so much, Sammy,

for being back here with me. You're welcome. I will see you on the next episode. And thank you everyone for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show. Wherever you listen, we will be back next week with the season finale. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca Sousmakat.

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