Mention It All - Racism Is Back On Below Deck (Vanderpump Rules, Below Deck)

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Bari and Dylan catch up on what they’ve missed with their Tuesday shows, and it’s a real mixed bag. On Vanderpump Rules, the Katie vs. Sandoval feud is finally reaching a breaking point, while the irony of watching Raquel and James’ relationship is a lot to handle. Over on Below Deck, the deck crew can’t seem to get it together, but the biggest problem is the crew’s unbothered reaction to Heather using a racial slur. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer Who's gonna check me, boo And Barry Rosenfeld I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I am Dylan Hafer

And I am Barry Rosenfeld How are you I realize I'm okay so I I was making a hello fresh recipe. Hello fresh friend of the pod. This is not part of an ad. But I like,

I had hello fresh stuff in my fridge and I was like, let me, let me make one of these not really realizing that we were recording in less than the amount of time that it takes to make the recipe. And so I like did all the prep. And then I started preheating the oven like right before we sat down to record so that when we finished recording, I'm making a barbecue flatbread.

I can just like put the thing in the oven. Dylan. My apartment smells good. Perks of working from home. Perks but also downfalls because like you don't have to be organized at all. But then sometimes it's like, oh, if I had been a little bit organized, this would be more convenient. Right. You know who's not organized?

Who? What? The deck crew on below deck. Nice segue. Okay. Yeah, we didn't we didn't talk. We didn't really recap Vanderpump Rules or below deck last week because we had Tom and Ariana on.

Which was an amazing. Amazing conversation. Honestly, when we knew that Tom and Ariana were coming into the office, we were kind of like, that's fine. We can skip a little bit of a week. I got to say, I think I enjoyed this week's Vanderpump Rules a little more than I have been lately. Thoroughly.

I even DMed Ariana and told her that I peed in my pants watching the scene of her when Ariana took a tumble. Like the whole, the whole scene, the whole birthday party was based around her being, having like the best time ever of her life. She did. Yeah.

I, honestly, I kind of applaud Ariana for how much she is steering clear of this Tom, Tom and Katie drama. Because like, obviously she has, I'm sure she has thoughts on it. She's,

you know, it's not like she's never expressed an opinion on it. But like, she is not letting her season get kind of bogged down in this storyline. But I do feel like this storyline, it's kind of been like, you know, putzing along for most of the season. And this episode, I feel like we finally sort of reached a climax moment of Katie versus Sandoval. I know. It's like, okay, so I have to say, I feel like after talking to Tom Sandoval last week,

I have a little more of like a well-rounded opinion of this situation and of how it's being sort of portrayed on the show. But I will say when he was talking to Katie at Tom Tom, and he said the thing about how much money I've brought to your household, that really didn't sit right in my spirit. I also feel like you can't hear that in a different context. Like that's the only way we could have heard it. And even if there is like some nugget of truth on some level to that, like obviously without both Tom's, there wouldn't be this Tom Tom, you know, income stream. But so it's like Tom Sandival does play a part in all of this money that they've been able to make.

But it's just never, it's never cool to say something like that to someone. And also, even if you were correct, you can't. expect somebody to hear that and be like, you're right, Tom. Thank you so much for the income of my household. Right. Katie would never just accept that. This fight between them should have never gotten to this point. Like, it just shouldn't have.

And it's personal and it's business. But like Tom Sandvo's like, I lift people up. I give them hugs. And like, he was like, you don't see that side of what I do with Schwartz. Like you only see the other side. And like Katie's like, Katie is just, now it's hard with this argument because she's, she's like speaking for Schwartz. I get she's defending him, but she's speaking like for him. And it's very complicated to like watch even.

Yeah. They don't have their own feelings. But at the same time, I think Tom Schwartz has done a really horrible job of making Katie feel there's my oven for the preheating's done. He's done a really horrible job of. making Katie feel heard and understood and valued. And later in the episode, when Katie goes to talk to Lisa, I actually totally agree with Lisa Vanderpump in this situation where Katie is like telling herself that, you know,

I just want Tom to treat me equally to Tom Sandoval. And Lisa's like, fuck that. You're his wife. He should be treating you better than Tom Sandoval. Like, I think Katie has sort of talked herself into this place where it's like, okay, as long as he treats me and Tom, like, equal partners, that's all I can hope for. And I do think in this situation, Lisa is giving her good advice that it's like, no, no, no, no, no. These two have, like, their business together, but, like, he's your husband. Like, you are, you should be in first place.

Right. I agree. Lisa was like, I will never compete with another man. with for, like, for my husband's attention. Like, that it's me and my husband are equal. But, like, I agree with the advice Lisa was giving to Katie, but I don't agree with the fact that Katie went to Lisa. Unless she was just going to, like, for someone to listen to her,

but I don't know if that was how she wanted it to go. Like, she was like, do you agree that they're ready to open a bar? Like, what? Why are you asking Lisa that? That's weird. Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. This to me is a very, the producers are telling us to go sit down with each other because we're on a TV show.

And we have to keep Lisa sort of in the loop somehow. The amount of meetings that have been at Villa Rosa this season. Oh, my God. Yeah, because I guess they can't really do that at the restaurants with the pandemic. It's harder to have this stuff going on. But when Katie is like, you know, I hate to take up Lisa's time. She's so busy. And it's like, she.

You're on her TV. She's filmed. We all, like, I, I, you know, that's one of those times where we've talked about how some shows are like more precious with the fourth wall than others. And it's like, it feels so transparent to be like, I hate to take up Lisa's time. But she's the only one I can think of who would have this context. And it's like, she's the, she's the boss of the show that you're on. They also, this entire cast, we've said this forever. Like they treat her like the queen that she is.

Like she like and they're going to her throne. Like that's just how they are with her. I will say when, so when I think about Lisa potentially coming back to housewives at some point, I don't necessarily feel like I want or need that, at least not anytime soon. But then when we talk about Vanderpump rules and like are they going to do another season? Do we want that? do we need that. It is strange to think about if Vanderpump rules doesn't come back,

then Lisa's just never on Bravo again. Like that's a weird thought. Oh, and speaking of Beverly Hills, the production is on pause right now. So Garcell announced she has COVID, and reportedly Erica and Lisa Rina also have COVID. And so their production is down. I mean, season two of dealing with this,

because last, never forget the scene of like Kyle shouting down from her balcony to Garcel because they couldn't actually be in the same room yet. I, you know, it sucks that we're still having to deal with this, but yeah, you know, they worked through it last season and obviously it was still a great season. So hopefully everyone's feeling okay. I know. It's scary, but. It is, yeah, I mean, it's like, it's not so much scary in the sense of like, you know,

how sick are people going to get. It's just like it sucks that we still have to be on this like marigo round of worrying about, you know, getting sick. Right. But yeah, best wish is to everyone in Beverly Hills. We wish. Are you all the best? Should we, wait, oh my God. The scene when at the beginning of the episode when James and Raquel were talking and Raquel is like,

I just think we should have, you know, an engagement party. And I think we should have it outside of L.A. Everyone can just get a break. And it's like, first, in any context, I don't want to go to your destination engagement party, but especially now knowing that they are not still together. It's, oh, God, it's cringe. It's always so awkward on any show to have things in real time not be what it is on the show. And like now we know we're just going along with this for the ride.

Like, we're going to talk about their engagement and whatever else happens on the show, knowing that they're not together in real life right now. But the fact that just this season. with us. And we're now doing that. We're suspending our disbelief with them and with Lala and Randall. And this week we have Lala hiring an assistant for Give Them Lala Beauty. And Randall's in the room the whole time. While he's telling the applicants, I'm not involved with this. Lala's doing it all on her own. It's like, they go the fuck home. Why are you here? Also, though, when they like that girl, which they say her name in the next episode so we know she hires her but she that jessica randall was like if you don't take her i take her

and then they went to uh they did uh like they went to la la's confessional and she was like ugh and i was like oh my god the foreshadowing is so great on this show so good so good everything you want for summer is at nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off stock up and save on the brands you love like vince sam edelman frame and free people Join the Norty Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack.

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First thing I thought of. Yeah. Because to me, give them, like, give them La La Beauty. I believe, sure. I believe Lala that she is making money off of it, I guess. But it's not a brand that is so huge that if you're kind of, you know, just going about your life, everybody's heard of it. So to me, it's kind of like, if they did their research for the interview, then that's

about as much as you can expect. Right. Well, so there's two sides to this because they're interviewing to be her personal assistant and give them Lala as just an aspect of that. So like she said, do you, have you heard of the brand before? And some people were like, I've heard of you. But so number one, it's always best to research and be prepared for your interview. But on the other side, the role is also a learning experience.

And you can learn about the business from the beginning. So I don't think Xing them out right away would be like the best thing. But it looks like this girl knows that she did go with, knows what she's doing and is maybe the best person. I have no idea I was not in the room. But also it's like, let's be real. 95% of the people who have heard of Give Them La La Beauty are just the people who watch Vanderpump rules. Right.

So it's kind of funny because it's like, are you penalizing them for not watching your TV show? Because I would think that might be kind of a good thing because then at least they're not going to be, you know, coming to work and being like, have you talked to James lately. Exactly. A lot of people actually prefer people who don't know who they are, like, have never like heard of them in that sense. They just want to are looking for a job and want to and are good at. being that. But it's the same thing you don't fuck fans. Like it's, and like employing fans is probably

the same thing. Oh, I guess we're on two different pages for that. No, I feel like we're on the same page that like it's preferable Like you can But it can get messy. You know, if somebody is you know, if somebody is like

mostly into you because they know like what you have going on and then it goes wrong. It, you know, it just can be a messy situation, whereas if it's just some guy, they're not going to be like, you know, commenting on your shit. Right.

There's a large list of celebrities who have actually married their fans. And Matt Damon is one of them, and I know off the top of my head. And I think Matthew McConaughey, I think. But, yeah, it's actually a fun list. There are people who just marry and date each other who are like that. But let's be clear, like, if you're listening to this podcast and you're a fan of mine

and you're like an eligible bachelor, do slide into my DMs. I'm not saying I would, you know, that's not necessarily a role for me, but. And to be honest, I'm, I don't think. And I would have anyone listening to this who would want to date me because like I don't think that many. If you're a straight man over the age of 30. Street men are listening to this, but. If you are, we will have something in common.

So that's fabulous. I always, honestly, I always think about that how for, like, as a, as a gay man, it's not that hard to find another guy who, like, watches Bravo or, like, theater or anything like that. Like, if I, like, straight women have it rough because all, we get so many comments on the Instagram and stuff that are like, my husband hates when I watch Bravo. And I'm like, wow, that really, that sucks for you. Oh my God.

It is very true. How do you make it work? I'm still figuring that out. They're like, my husband will only watch below deck. And I'm like, I mean. Okay, wait. So below deck is like statistically, I think, the most watched. I made up that statistic, but I think statistically the most watched by straight men.

Oh, I think that's totally true. And I mean, let's be clear, below deck is one of the highest rated shows on Bravo, period. But I do hear, you know, so many people are like, oh, my husband won't watch Housewives, but below deck he's into because it's like about a boat. Like it's a quote unquote about a boat, even though it's mostly about like who's hooking up and who's, you know, messing up the dinner service. But this, I don't know, the season of Below Deck, I feel like is, I don't know, the vibes are a little weird right now.

We have a few more tidbits of this episode of VPR before we want to just slugly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm getting down that slide to below deck. It's a bumpy slide. It's a bumpy slide. I want to today. Okay, so, I mean, the main thing that we have to discuss with Vanderpump rule still is this big confrontation that's going to happen between the Tongs.

I want to ask you how you feel. Yes. Because after this blow up with Tom and Katie, like, they have almost like a warm up session of Katie prepping Tom of what to say again to defend her, to defend his wife. I think Katie is 100% warranted in wanting Schwartz to say something to Sandval because I do think he has been disrespectful to her and disrespectful to Tom and Katie's relationship because it seems like he has this idea that Tom Schwartz doesn't actually really give that much of a shit about Katie and he can, you know, he's basically shit talking his. wife to him. And, you know, when they go aside at the birthday party, and even Schwartz is kind of like, ah, like, we got to, you got to be careful with that because it's a lot. And so I think Katie is totally in the right. But at the same time, I think Schwartz, I don't think he really, he's kind of

scared of Tom Sandival, it seems like. And, you know, it's not that he is scared to say something in the first place, but that it's like he doesn't really stand by his convictions. And so it's like, he'll be like, you got to be nicer to Katie. And then when Tom Sandoval starts to flip out, he's like, I know, I know she's a bitch. She sucks all this stuff. And it's like, no, no, no. If the point of the conversation is to say, treat my wife better, you can't like waiver on that when Tom Sandoval starts to like give his talking points because, you know, he still needs to treat your wife better. That doesn't change just because Tom Sandival wants to hear himself talk. When Tom was getting ready and rode his bike and had his Bubba necklace on and the background

music was Katie like replaying in his head, I was like, this is funny. Like, this is very funny. But again, it's like they're making a joke out of it. And it's like a, it's like serious because it affects their business. But the fact is that when Tom said that Tom Sanival says that he looks at their friendship as a brand, basically, and Tom Schwartz was like, but it's not a brand. Like we're, it's our friendship. And then we have a business together.

Like you're combining the two. I like understood what Tom Sandoval was saying because like it's like Tom and Tom. Like they go hand in hand almost, but it does have to be separated. And when they made like that pact of them like not hanging out like or making their hangouts that aren't business involved to a bare minimum, I was like, oh my God, is this the downfall of Schwartz and Sandys in real life? The thing for me is that I don't think Sandoval is wrong to say our friendship is a brand at this point. You know, when they, when they go out, everybody knows them as, you know, Tom and Tom and they're doing cameos together and they're doing

events together and appearances and cocktail classes and, you know, all of this stuff. but I think by sort of drawing this line in the sand and saying, look, we can still do our business shit together, but we shouldn't hang out that much. He's basically saying, you're telling me to treat Katie with more respect, and I would rather not see her at all than be on better terms with her when I do see her. So he's, like, to me, that is kind of,

it's kind of shitty because he's essentially saying, okay, like, I'm not going to let this affect our business stuff, but I don't actually want to treat your wife with more respect. So it's better that I just don't see her. And it's like, I mean, you don't have to be front. Like, they don't have to be besties, but it's, it's kind of sad to me that Sandoval can't just be like, yeah, sorry, I'll lay off. If she's not going to be. They have to be in each other's lives, like, for a long time. And if, if there, if everyone is accepting at this point that Katie's not going to be involved in this new bar, that was. theoretically the main reason why they weren't getting along. So it's like, why can't you just

be like, okay, we'll be cool and like just kind of keep our distance. It's kind of weird to me that Sandoval has to make this distinction when it's like, you can still be friends. It's not that big of a deal. Well, Ariana's like, will you guys come to dinner for my birthday tomorrow, just the four of us? And Katie's like, no. Like, that's, that's not going to have. I felt bad because like Katie and Ariana were on very two different pages. Like Katie was not as intoxicated as Ariana was. But like, I don't know. It's weird because even next episode, like, you see them together and Tom Schwartz is like

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Visit redbull.com slash bright summer ahead to learn more. See you this summer. To the high seas we go. To the high seas we go. Yeah, so I mean, the deck crew is just continuing to have these little, it's just like every charter it feels like there are, two or three kind of, you know, sloppy mistakes or just being forgetful or like the deck isn't, you know, wiped down well enough, just easy kind of throwaway mistakes that are

piling up. And it really feels like this season, they just can't make it click. And, you know, Captain Lee is starting to get to the point where he, I think, is rightfully frustrated. I don't know. I think so too, but at the same time, it's like all these things that keep going wrong and then like, and then Captain Lee and Eddie like are debriefing always. It's like almost, it's so repetitive to the point where it's like someone do something. Stop like threatening every time. Be like, oh, I'm going to have someone's ass. Figure out the problem and like maybe Jake isn't ready for this role. Like I don't there, it looks like it can be or Eddie needs to be like outside more. And I know that's not his position, but like maybe he should be more like involved to. Yeah. Catch the Maseeks. There needs to be less arguing in front of guests because that's awkward A.F. I do think that Wes's management style over, or sorry, Jake's management style over Wes and Rana doesn't seem that effective. No. And I think it's one thing, you know, if he had started out going a certain way and then when he saw that Rana wasn't responding well to.

it to kind of adjust. But it seems like now it's been a few weeks where they, the way he's communicating with Rana clearly isn't working for her. And he, rather than trying to kind of get on the same page with her, just goes to Eddie. And it's like, she won't listen to anything I say. She's being disrespectful. And, you know, I think Eddie kind of, he is in a tough spot getting information from, from Jake and from Rana.

but I do think he's kind of falling on the side of, you know, being like, okay, so Jake said this. So Raina, what's the problem? And I understand why Raina feels frustrated and like all this shit is kind of piling up and she's not really being valued. I feel like the few conversations in this episode that Raina had with Eddie were good. I feel like Eddie kind of did. and especially the last one when she went like back in his room and apologize and like they were really talking. And he kept like giving her positive reinforcements. Like you're doing great. You're doing good. Like, you know, but then she was like he still doesn't get it. But it's like what doesn't he get? That was a little confusing for me. It's like, well, then let him know like what the problem is. I get it. I mean, I guess she how many times can she say she doesn't like Jake and he's an asshole? But at the same time, like, how can we fix this? That whole episode, I was like, what can we do?

How can we fix this? I totally understood when she was like he doesn't get it because I think he just, it feels like he's kind of telling her, he's like saying the right things to her in the moment of like, okay, I need you to calm down and get out of my room basically. But like, no.

No, I mean, it's like you're saying, it's like, what can I say to her to make her be, like go away basically? You're telling her what she needs to hear in the moment, but it doesn't actually feel like there's any real, you know, change that's going to happen or like, you know, Eddie's not going to talk to Jake in any sort of like meaningful way about what's going on on his crew. And then I think, you know, you can't discount the fact that as a black woman in this predominantly white space, she's already feeling, you know, in this whole industry, she already feels kind of like an other.

and then, you know, she has these two white men that are like her superiors on the crew that she feels like she's not really being heard and understood. And then you have on top of that all, this whole situation with Heather, apparently saying the N word, which is like so, so like absurdly cringy. And I just don't, it's like, I don't even know how to process that because it's like, what the fuck is going on? Like, and then Heather's response is immediately to just be like, well, I didn't say it. And it's like, okay, well, there's video. Yeah, like she, it was very bizarre. But she almost, she like repeated what Raina said without like realizing what she, like, it was like, no, you can't say that.

You can't like repeat what she's saying like, that's not okay. And then good for Raina for like saying something. And you could tell she like was like, um, I shouldn't have to be the one to tell you that you shouldn't say this. But it was, yeah. well, I think it was like, because Raina, we didn't hear, I don't think we heard Heather say it in the, in the kitchen when they were like singing the song. But Raina was like, you said it now and I heard you say it earlier. And they had the video from earlier. And it was like Raina had heard it at the time. And I think she really, because she feels so like the other in this space, she already feels like, oh,

oh, I don't want to make a scene. I don't want to be the one to make you uncomfortable. And even as she's bringing it up to Heather, she's like, I still love you. Just know that, like, other people probably don't want you to say that. And I really felt for her in that moment because it's like she clearly already feels, you know, sort of pushed to the side and is like so hesitant to even bring it up at all, let alone to make it seem like she's upset by it. And it's like, that's literally the most upsetting thing I can think of to have, you know, to be in that position and to have your coworker who is like friendly with you using that word so casually.

And it's like, she should be upset by that. And like everybody else should be too. And she post, you know, Heather posted like an apology on social media. And it's just kind of like, like, okay, but you still are like denying it. And I don't know. And then Raina also brought it. up to like Fraser who was even like, wait, what? When did she say that?

And then she also told Eddie, like, agree with you. You can tell she was like kind of letting people know. So she wasn't the only one that like was aware of it. And Eddie was like, oh, I didn't hear it. And I was in the car. And Reno was like, she didn't say it in the car. We weren't in the car. Right.

Like I think it's, it's tough because obviously it's an uncomfortable situation. I wouldn't want to be in. I mean, I wouldn't want to be like working on a boat to begin with. but like I definitely wouldn't want to be, you know, it's not fun information to be confronted with. But it is very telling that the first response is, oh, well, I didn't hear it. So like, if you say that, you know, cool, like, I support you. That sounds bad. But like, I wasn't involved.

It's like, I don't know. I can't really. And it's like, that should be something where the whole, everybody on the boat should be, should have strong feelings about that because it's a big deal. Yeah. But I don't know. I mean, like, I just, I, rena hasn't been my favorite this whole season. Like, I've kind of gone back and forth on how I feel about, you know, her dynamic with Jake and all this stuff. But this episode, I really just, you know, I just, like, felt bad that it just fucking sucks that she is in this position where from multiple different angles, she feels like she's not being heard.

She's not being respected. And it's, it's just like, it sucks. Yeah. We love Reno. I don't know. But aside from all that, the one who's actually seemingly the most miserable on the boat is Jessica. And she's not being quiet about it either. No, she really, um...

Okay. But your boss and co-worker talking shit about you in front of you is quite awkward. Oh, I totally agree. I think the last time we talked about Below Deck was a couple weeks ago. And I feel like we talked about this then that it was kind of, unprofessional for Heather to be talking about Jessica with Frazier. And that has only continued. And, you know, last week, Frazier got put on laundry and right away the laundry room

was great. And, you know, that's good that he did a good job. But also it's like, it's in stark contrast of like, Frazier, you did such a good job with the laundry. It's so much better than when Jessica was doing it. Like, it feels so, like, even if Jessica is not pulling her weight and she, she should be doing better. How could you not feel defeated in that position when all you're hearing all day is like,

this sucks because Jessica did it. This is great because Fraser did it. And it's like there's never any deviation from that. It's always like, oh, well, this shouldn't look like this, Jessica. You're too slow, Jessica. This looks wrong, Jessica. And, you know, she probably isn't an amazing stew, but also it's like, that's not a very, you know. Yeah.

When they walked into the pantry and Heather was like with her arms out, she was like, this shouldn't be like this. Like how can I work on this while the dishes are here? Like this is just my expectations. Like I'm sorry. I would be nauseous if someone spoke to me that way too. So I'm on team Jessica.

I do feel like Heather, she presents her feedback in, I would say not a very constructive, way that I feel like we've, you know, she says that, you know, training day is over, which yeah, sure, but do you want her to, do you want her to do you want her to do a good job or not? And I feel like the way to walk into that space would be, hey, so like, when you're doing this, just try to keep it like a little more, you know, if you don't mind, could you just make sure to like throw this stuff away or it's helpful if you tidy this stuff first? Like you can be giving more kind of like thoughtful advice on how to do better versus saying like this can't look like this.

You're not pulling your weight. It has to be better. You know, like telling somebody to do better at their job is not very helpful unless there's like a specific, you know, she could pinpoint specific things that Jessica could improve upon. But I think Jessica, it feels like she's just getting told 24-7 that she's not doing a good job. And even if that's true, nobody wants to hear that. And that doesn't inspire anyone to all of a sudden do a good job. Right. So, and then she was like, well, this is my last time being a fucking stew anyway.

And I was like, oh, my God. Jessica. Yeah. Pikes down. The only thing that concerns me for her is I get that she doesn't really give a shit, but they're only halfway through the season. So if she's not planning on quitting, it's not going to get more fun for her if she doesn't kind of pick up the pace a little bit, but

I don't blame her for not really giving a shit. Put on a show. Stu face. Stu face. Yeah. It's like do it's because you're just going to, it's just going to be miserable for yourself too. So,

I want to work on one charter. I really do. I just want to work one charter to see how it is in real life. It's my dream. Yeah. No, I get that. Like, I, it would, it could be fun. if it was like extremely temporary and you knew that.

Right. Like for them, it's their, it's their job. Yeah. Which they can always change. Yeah, you know, but it's like even this one season,

it's like eight weeks. It's like, oh my God, I'm just tired thinking about it. Oh, we have a while to go. A while to go. Yeah,

but we're, I don't know, it'll be fun. We're going to be, I can't believe Miami. is happening so soon. Wait, so season one is, or season two is on today.

It's just like running, which is like, Super fun. It's a good one. Super fun. She beat me to the tweet. It's so funny to see. I just can't with, it's just funny to me that Larsa was on the beginning. Like it's, it's a wild ride. Well, we will be

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