Mention It All - Rhode Island’s Epic Arrival, In The City Intel & RHOBH Running On Fumes

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

At the end of another busy week, Dylan sits down to talk about what’s been on his mind the most: Alicia from Real Housewives of Rhode Island. He unpacks all the shocking revelations (and instant classic vocal stims) from the second episode of RHORI, and gives some friendly advice to Rulla after her first appearance. Next, he breaks down the season premiere of RHOA, featuring the arrival of K. Michelle and some lingering drama from last year. From there, it’s on to the latest episode of RHOBH, which somehow isn’t the season finale. With Dorit on the outs with half the cast, where do we really go from here? And how similar is this situation to the dreaded days of the Fox Force Five? Earlier in the episode, Dylan also covers the latest news from the world of Summer House and the news about the spinoff, In The City. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday & Friday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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everyone, welcome back to the Mentioned at All podcast, and we've made it through another week. Another week, it's been busy. The Bravo schedule right now is just, it's kind of nuts. Is it not? I was going through my list, my notes, my things to talk about. I'm like, there's six shows on here, and I'm not even watching Top Chef. I'm not even watching below deck down under. I'm not fully caught up. I don't, I mean, it feels like we're being waterboarded by content right now. And I, you know, I like to eat the food and say thank you. But it's making, it's making me a little nervous. Because I don't know if you guys remember the last couple of years.

It feels like we have had some times, especially in the summers, when things have been a little bit light on the Bravo content calendar. So we are, we are rolling through this time of, you know, six, seven, eight shows on a, week and we are enjoying it and we are eating it all up like the the slot pigs that we are but I'm hoping I'm hoping that the boom times aren't followed by the unboom times because I would like to have good stuff to talk about all year round and it feels like we should be able to accomplish that but before we get into it I just want to give a shout out to our YouTube channel YouTube.com slash at Bravo by batches. You can watch all our episodes over there earlier this week we had on the one and only Monet Exchange. I loved talking to Monet. I, uh, you know, I don't always get to to chit-chat with the drag

race girls, the traders girls. Monet has done so much, um, just a really fun conversation. We talked about Porsche and the Real Housewives of Atlanta. We talked about, of course, traders, drag race. So much different stuff. A really fun time. Even if you're not like a drag, I haven't watched drag race in years. That was the time. It ended for me. Thank you. But Monet is just like an icon. So much fun to talk to. And next Tuesday, we have another really fun episode. I sat down with Simone Sanders Townsend, who, if you were not familiar, Simone has this

illustrious career in political strategizing. She worked on campaigns. She worked in the White House. She has a background. Let me tell you. And then she has spent the last several years working in TV news. She currently hosts a show on MS now, formerly MSNBC. Things are times they are a change in.

But Simone is also a huge Bravo fan. And most importantly, she was at Watch What Happens Live just a couple weeks ago with West Wilson. So we talked about that. We talked about lots of stuff with her too, Rhode Island, Atlanta, kind of the different worlds that politics and news and Bravo and reality TV. I'll occupy. Another fun episode coming out on Tuesday, and we have just a banger guest lineup, if I do say so myself, uh, on the docket for the rest of April. And even into May, I think we're, we're, we're plugging along. So make sure you are subscribed. Make sure you're following us on Spotify. Subscribe wherever you listen, wherever you watch. It's a good time in, in the land of

mentioned at all. And it has been a busy time on Bravo. Now, I do feel like we should start with just a little bit of an update on the Summerhouse stuff. And, you know, as I was looking through my notes, I'm like, there's a lot going on. There's a lot of shows. Summerhouse is sort of not even at the top of the list of things I want to talk about. You know, this week's episode, Lindsay's having her house warming and, you know, Dara's talking to Bailey about the rumor that she spent time in Ben's bedroom. And we see Sierra going to her grandparents' house that she's bought in North Carolina. I would watch a whole show about Sierra doing renovations on this house and sort of like reconnecting with her roots in this way. I think that is just something that would be endlessly watchable.

I saw somebody suggested that Sierra should document this on like a YouTube channel or something. I think she should. I mean, think of how many people would be watching that. Sierra also is busy on red carpets. Last week she did that John Hamm Show, Your Friends and Neighbors. And this week she did the Euphoria Carpet. And this moment went viral of her asking Sidney Sweeney if, you know, if it's cool to steal your friend's ex. And if she was like, if you do, I think you should get married.

Now, I, okay, this clip was going around a lot. And it was kind of making me laugh because Sierra, of course, is like leaning into this moment that she's having, which like, as she should. But people were like, oh my God, like Sydney Sweeney comments on Summerhouse situation. and I'm like, babes, that's the situation that her character on Euphoria did in season two. Cassie got with Nate. It, like, it's, we, Sidney Sweeney, respect, I mean, I guess respect. I don't really care about Sydney, whatever, whatever. Sydney Sweeney is not out here reading what DeMois is posting about West and Amanda and Sierra.

I mean, maybe she is. Like, there's a chance. But Sidney Sweeney is shuffling down that carpet in her little white dress because the publicist told her to. And Sierra is the girl with the microphone. And Sydney is gracious to her because she knows she's supposed to be. And Sierra asks her question. She's like, yeah, you should definitely get married. If you're, if you're, no, it's not cool.

But like, I guess you should get. It's not about Summerhouse. I mean, it's about Summerhouse because they knew to, like, because Sierra's there and she's looking in the camera. And I love that. But like, we're giving Sidney Sweeney too much credit. I think. But yeah, there haven't been that many big updates in the Summerhouse world this week. I mean, we know that Carl's a mess. There's hoodies that say that. They're kind of capitalizing. There was a charity element, I guess. I don't know. Jesse Solomon's out here, you know,

trying to sell those tour tickets. I don't know. I feel like I'm in a place right now where with Summerhouse, we know the reunion is coming up. We've got another still like five-ish weeks left in the season before we even see the reunion. So I'm a little bit like I would rather take my foot off the gas pedal for the next few weeks when it comes to the real-time updates and have a little bit more of a sense of surprise and a sense of discovery when we're watching the reunion. because I think with everything that was happening last week, obviously it was like bombshell information. We need boots on the ground.

We need to know what's happening. But I think to sort of preserve the sanctity of Summerhouse, this institution, I now would like to know a little bit less of what's happening over the next couple weeks. And there have been, you know, like people are seeing them around. You know, I saw like a photo, a grainy photo of West on an. escalator at an airport. I'm like, okay, he's like, live in life, I guess. I don't need to know the like minute to minute updates. I hope Sierra doesn't talk about it in the next couple weeks. I don't need Kyle to do any more interviews on the street. If, um, if Lindsay and Carl want to, want to combine their

powers for spawn, um, I think that's okay, but I don't, I don't need them to be like getting into details. I would like the reunion to be good. But the big thing that we found out this week is that in the city, our Summerhouse spinoff, our East Coast, the Valley, if you will, is seeing the light of day in just a few short weeks on May 19th, right after the season finale of Summerhouse. They are pulling Beverly Hills into Vanderpump Rules, Vanderpump Rules into Summerhouse as it began, so it will continue. Summerhouse will just waft into the first episode of In the City. And we got the trailer for that first season. And I, I, sure, we can do this. You know, it's, it's a show with a bunch of people. Some of them we know. Some of them we don't.

Some of them, I'm sure, will love. Some of them will continue to tolerate. I feel very, like, flat about In The City right now. I know last week I was kind of like, how is this show going to work? Is it even going to feel like it makes sense? How much are they going to have to pick back up cameras? And I would say after seeing the trailer, I am, I'm less concerned in an overall way about, like, the viability of the show. And I'm more just kind of like, we'll see in terms of whether it will be good, whether it will be fun to watch, whether it will feel like a sort of like necessary addition to the Bravo Rotash. Now, there's one moment in the trailer

that got a lot more attention than any other moment in the trailer. And that is, of course, when Amanda and West meet up, and Amanda's like, hey! And West is like, hey, Mandy! And then they embrace. And it's a very, like, crystal clear,

two-second clip of them greeting each other and having a big hug. And I just like, if I could like have a magic lamp and have three wishes, one of them I'm sure I would use to get like really rich or something, one of them I would do some kind of like public good. The third wish,

I would love to know whether that shot was in the trailer prior to last week. Like I need to see, I need to dig through the like Adobe files, the like premiere, the server, the cloud. And like last week after all this news broke, is there like in the city, season one trailer, the V4 final, final, updated final, final, final, final. Like, did they, were they messy and like,

oh, we're going to insert this at the last minute? Or was this something that they were just like, oh, like, we'll throw it in there because it's cute and then now it's taken on a whole different. Meaning, we need to know somebody at NBC Universal. If you can just slide into my DMs and let me know, if you saw a version of that trailer more than a week ago, what did it look like?

Was it exactly the same? Was anything changed? Because overall, the trailer besides that one quick little moment heard round the world, the Hey Mandy heard around the world, as it were, it's kind of a basic trailer. There are a bunch of new people. I think it's something like 14 people total in this cast. The cast photo is them like, you know,

cut and pasted Photoshop style on a stoop. It's weird because like they're very, you know, it's a big gaggle of people. You know, they arranged them like little, you know, paper dolls on the stoop. But it's like Kyle and Amanda are still standing next to each other and they're right next to Lindsay, but they're not even really centered.

And everybody's wearing brown. It's very like, it's very like the, like Christian Girl Autumn photo shoot. Like, it's kind of that aesthetic. And I guess, you know, in the city, it's going to be like fall in New York. It's like just getting warm. I don't want it to get cold again. I don't know. But the rest of the trailer, I'm kind of like, okay, yeah.

I mean, there's like drama, obviously. It'll be good to see that. Interestingly, I don't feel like it was very well known that. that Ms. Danielle Olivera has made her way back into another full-time role on a Bravo show in the Year of Our Lord 2026. And can I just say, Danielle, good for you. Because it's so funny the way the world works.

Because when Danielle was... When she was not back on Summerhouse a couple of years ago, you know, she was there, and then she was not, we don't know the exact circumstances, but people were kind of ruthless about it. Because she was not terribly well received in her final season of Summer House. She kind of, I would say she, she handled the whole founder and CEO thing kind of strangely.

Her issues with Lindsay kind of were a weird blip. I don't know. But people acted when she did not come, back to Summerhouse like Bravo had dropped, kicked her into outer space. They acted like they said, you, you horrible woman, get off our network, and you're going to go spend the rest of your life at a leper colony. They acted like they didn't want to see Danielle ever again. And what's so funny, the way this all works, she took two years off of Summerhouse and now she's back with a full-time role on a Bravo show, kind of like she never.

left. And it's just so funny because I think people when when somebody leaves a show or isn't asked to return to a show, obviously sometimes there is like big drama or oh, this person is, you know, we're never going to see them again. But also sometimes it just like is time for somebody to not be in a certain space. And then they're still right in the background. And the next time there's a space that it makes sense for them to be in, they're getting that call. So congrats to Danielle and also Andrea. Andrea is back. Andrea has a wife now.

We know because all the summer house people went to his wedding in Italy. Like last year, a couple of years ago. Great to see him. He is looking just as fuckable as ever. Just, God damn, that's a fine, fine-ass man. He's so tan. He's got the muscles. There's a little moment in the trailer where he's laying in bed in just his boxes.

And you can see some stuff. Welcome back, Andrea. A pleasure to have you back in class. I don't know. Other than that, I'm not really, I'm not tapping into the new people yet. We have over a month until this show airs. We're going to have Summer House every week to talk about. And I would say I will, I will be more interested in like an in the city, deep dive kind of thing, like the week leading up to the premiere.

I don't need to know 12 new people yet. It's very, it is very similar. I don't think the show itself will feel. feel similar to the experience of watching the valley, because that is, that was something where the main group hadn't been on Vanderpump rules in a few years, at least. And it was more of a remove from where they had been before to this suburban life, where most of them had kids, everybody was getting married. In the city is a little different because they're still in the city. If this was like, you know, Westchester County, oh my God, can you imagine?

If you live in Westchester County, I'm so sorry, but like, that will be when we know Bravo has really, you know, gone over the hill. When it's like next season on Westchester County, I'm sure there are people up there that are reality TV worthy. I don't think I want to see it. And don't give me a one-star review on Apple or whatever because you're like, Westchester County is awesome. You should spend more time there. It's fine. But no, in the city, they're still living in their apartment. They're still going to, you know, presumably going out, having fun.

They're on the town. It's less like baby central than the valley, which, you know, I'll love me some valley. We got our sparkle back. But it doesn't seem like exactly the same show, which I think is a good thing. But we'll see how it goes. We'll see how, if we want to remember 12 new people's names, we'll see, we'll see how they handle the drama. Because we still don't know. More to come.

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Girl, winter is so last season. And now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope.

It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Let's talk about something that is here, and we're so glad and we're loving it. Two episodes in, Real House of Rhode Island. Just great stuff. And when I recorded last week's episode, it was before the premiere of Rhode Island had aired. So I had seen the episode.

I had gone to the premiere. I had talked to plenty of people in, you know, friends and people in, and people in like the industry who had seen the episodes and all felt really strongly about it. But I didn't actually have any of that like real real world social media conversation of people seeing it and reacting to it. And it has been so fun this past week watching people discover this show. And even like I'm sitting in the office. And I feel like every day that I've been in this week, new people are coming up to me,

are messaging me on Slack, are like, you know, DMing me texting me of like, oh my God, I just watched Rhode Island. This is crazy. And like, it's such a fun communal experience of something new starting that is just really exciting and really different and really just like fresh and fun. And all of the, the like Alicia isms that are going around. I mean, the amount of times I have heard, I ran over a woman this week, it's episode two. And we have like iconography from this franchise.

Like, this show could be on for 10 seasons. And I feel like I ran over a woman is like going to persist. That's something I'm not easily going to forget. Is that a rule of all? lot. When she's talking about her, her, she, I never leave the house without a quick carb. I like my saltines, my crackers, you know, a nuts, nuts for protein and a fig. I love a fig Newton because I feel like it's healthy for a cookie because it has a fig. It's a fruit. Swan, it's a swan on Ozempic. I mean, Alicia is like a sound bite machine. And what I love about

her so much so far. And, you know, just this pop, this was the first thing I felt like talking about. I'll get into more of the, the storylines. But Alicia is somebody who, in these first couple episodes at least, comes across like this stuff really just comes out. It doesn't feel like she is putting on a performance. And it really, it doesn't feel like any of these women are putting on a performance. I would say if anybody feels like there may be in that territory a little bit, it would be rosy.

Because when she's in the confessional and she's like, Jo Ellen's actually kind of nice when she's not being mean. Like that's a little bit where it's like, okay, I feel like you've kind of like thought about this a little too much. No, I fully believe Alicia sits down in that chair and just kind of you just like let her go and she'll just talk and talk and talk. And like when she's like, yeah, I don't like drive in, you know, on the highway, I almost got drove off a bridge. I ran over a woman. She's like, she's just prattling on. And the producer has to stop me.

Like, sorry. Sorry, what do you mean you ran over a woman? She's like, yeah, I ran over a woman. No, no words in the best way. And that one of my, um, one of my other favorite moments is later in the second episode when they're at, um, this winery and the topic of conversation. conversation has shifted on to Rula's, husband,

Brian's, alleged mistress, even though I think, is it even alleged? There's photos of the mistress. The mistress, as Liz says. And she goes, Alicia just goes, he's a foot doctor, but I think he was rubbing more than feats. Does anyone want a piece of cheese? Just like, oh.

It's almost like, like Linda Belcher kind of vibes. You see, foot doctor, rubbing more than feet. my mom, piece of cheese. It's just, like, it just, it scratches every edge for me. You guys who have listened to this for a long time know that I can't resist a good, a good accent, a good, just like character. And this, I mean, this cast has it in spades, but, I mean, Alicia just off the charts to start with.

But this episode, the most important thing that I feel like we have to address is that we meet our final housewife in this episode. We meet a Rolala herself, Ms. Rula. She does not live in Cranston. You better believe she would never fucking live in Cranston. Can you imagine? No, she lives in a town called Lincoln, Rhode Island, and it's very classy. It's a lovely place.

They show the pictures of their houses, and I'm like, you guys, we got to cut it out. You all live in like a 10-mile radius. And I know, because, you know, I've talked to some people from our. Rhode Island. I'm aware of how, you know, small town stuff kind of works. Like, I know that it's like being one town over in Rhode Island probably means the difference between like, you're a piece of trash or you're like, you think you better than me. But it's just, it's so funny. Because I have spent some time in the last week on the Google Maps. And I have like zoom, zoomed. It took me and I swear I wasn't even trying to be creepy. It took me two minutes to find Liz's house on Google Maps. from like one photo that they showed on the show. It's a tiny fucking state. When they're like, oh, I live in this town, there's only like four streets you could live on.

There's not a lot of houses. So it is kind of, it's just like, wow, we are really being let into this world where there is, there's not a lot of different people. There's not a lot of different places to go. It's been funny. I've seen some commentary online

of like Rhode Island people who are sort of skeptical about this show or like downright negative about it being like oh my god well they didn't even let them film at any of the fancy places in Rhode Island like they had to film wherever they would let them and it's like okay look I if seven beautiful crazy women complimentary crazy in the best way if they want to fight at a winery I don't really care which winery it is I don't really care if it's like the nice winery that people actually like going to or it's like the slightly less nice winery that they would let them film at. I'm like, let them film. They can, they can film in like somebody's backyard every episode for all I care. They're delivering and that's what I care about. But anyway,

back to Rula, who has known Liz for over a decade through the boating community, very Rhode Island. She knows Alicia because her husband has a jewelry brand that they shop at and also they come into her her into Brian's restaurant. I'm like, that's very Rhode Island. She and Liz are both half Syrian. So that's another connection that they have. But just like the way that Rula is introduced, the fact that it's only been one episode, but it feels like we've been waiting our entire lives to meet this woman. And she shows up to this, you know, dinner with Liz and Kelsey. And she looks and she just sits down. She goes, how is the fourth? The way she looks at the camera, you're if you're listening on audio, I'm so sorry. The way she looks, she's just like, how is the fourth?

And then she just kind of waits. And, you know, Liz feels awkward right off the back. Because she had Rula our friends. They'd known each other for a long time. And she's like, Joe Allen hosted a party. It was fun. And Rula, the second she hears Joe Allen's name, it's like somebody has like opened a wound. And she's like, I just don't understand why, you know, when we're friends, why you feel the need? Why do you like being around that woman? That, that, oh, that woman. And we have opened a whole other can of worms.

And it is only episode too. And we are just digging right in because we hear three different times in this episode. Liz used the word echo. She said, there's echoes all around the state that Rula's husband, Brian, has a mistress. Mistress, mistress. Really excellent work from the editors there putting in the echo as she's like, mistress, mistress, mistress. There's a mistress. And so Rula is in this position where she's coming on this show, and there is like hard evidence out there that

her husband Brian has cheated on her with this woman. And the evidence comes in the form of photographs that this woman posted, I think on Instagram. And now Rula has a big bone to pick with Joellen fucking Tiberi because Liz told her that Jo Ellen had the photos. And so Rula connected with Joe Ellen and she wanted to see the photos. Jo Ellen is like she was begging me to show her the photos. And I did.

And then she got mad. because according to Rula, Joellen didn't just have the photos. She sent the photos to all the women in the group. And so she didn't actually want to help Rula. She wanted to like spread her dirt all around the state. And again, I love, I think I said this last week. I love that everything on this show is happening like statewide.

It's like there's echoes all around the state. Oh yeah, I heard around the state. Everybody in the state knows that they, there's a mistress. It's just like statewide gossip. And I love that. Because of course, the state is like the size of my pinky nail.

But like, it's a whole state. There's only 50 of them. But rule is adamant that this mistress thing isn't happening anymore. And she says that Joellen is trying to make it. Like there's this woman and my husband is leaving me for this petty fucking slut. And she's like, it's not happening.

and Liz does the thing that's in the season trailer, and I've been thinking about it since that trailer came out, and if you would have told me that it was in, like, one of the first scenes of the second episode of the show, when she goes, but he is, ma, but he is! Just like perfection. I care about these people so much,

and I've known them for, like, one week. It's kind of wild. But, you know, Rula's trying to put on a good friend, which I get, you know, you're coming onto this show for the first time, even if you can admit that something has happened to try and minimize it and to try and say, you know, like, my husband loves me, he's coming home and sleeping with me and not this petty fucking slut. I get the instinct to do that, even if it's maybe not 100% true. And according to Liz, she says, Elizabeth is allergic to bullshit.

So, you know, she doesn't want to hear it. And Rula is implying that Liz and Jerry have their own kind of arrangement, which we'll get into a little bit later. And then she says the thing that I think is almost like, it's crazy to go there in your first scene on Real Housewives where she goes, well, you know, when you produce the kids with somebody, it's a game changer of how, you know, you see things and you handle things.

And this is like the exact dog whistle that Liz needs because, of course, we know, Liz is married to Jerry and Jerry had three kids when they met. And so they are not Liz's biological children, but she has raised them for as long as she has been with Jerry. And their mother, we hear throughout the show, their mother is not around. I don't know the details.

Maybe they're out there. Maybe they are. I haven't come across the details. Liz, you know, is very open about the fact that she, her life was changed when Jerry came into her life with these three girls and that she has raised these kids. She feels very close to them. She is very close to them. And so she obviously is going to take offense to this. And she goes, oh, when you, when you produce the kids.

Oh, yeah, when you produce them. And realize like, oh, I didn't mean it like that. Oh, you know, you're taking it the wrong way. And it's like, no, she's not. You just said when you produce the kids, it's a game changer. And so I, um, I'm interested in everything that Rula has going on. But I feel like, you know, we're only still seeing two scenes of her after this episode because she, um, isn't feeling well and doesn't make it to the winery day. Even though she's wearing in full glam on the face time, um, you know, we got clock it.

You got to clock it. Um, I, I, I need Rula to like. participate because it feels like she's extremely anti-Joe Ellen. She's reticent to talk openly about the stuff that's going on with her husband. So my kind of like assignment to her, if we were imagining that this show wasn't filmed several months ago, is like in the coming weeks, you got to show up, you got to participate, you got to play ball. Because you're very new to this space and I don't want you to be acting like you too good for it. Um, you know, Alicia's going over to Kelsey's house.

They're talking about, you know, channeling their inner Hillary Duff and coming clean. Just, it's just great material throughout this show. But the winery day is a lot of fun. Well, I don't know if it's fun for them. It's fun for me to watch. They're in this party buzz. Alicia's packed all her snacks.

Joellen, when they get there and she's asking if Rose A is wine? I'm like, where the fuck are we? The year 2010? is rosé wine? What do you mean? I can't believe these women are not like glug, glug in all summer long. Is rosé wine? Crazy-ass question to ask.

But Joellen is pissed that Rula is, you know, mad at her about the mistress photo. Liz says echoes again, put a dollar in the echoes jar. And this is when we find out that the extra piece of this that Rula is not going to be telling us is that Joe Ellen says that after Rula got pissed off about the photos, she called Joe Ellen's job trying to get her fired as retaliation for Joe Ellen, you know, apparently spreading the news, the news, that Brian had a mistress. So there is like some real shit going on here. It's not just he said, she said, it's like, did this person expose?

my husband's potentially ongoing affair and then as a retaliation did this person try to get this other person fired from her job. We're in the shit here. We're in deep with these women that we met a week ago. And then through this game that Kelsey brings to the table where you can put anonymous questions in people's boxes, they're not really anonymous, I guess. Everybody kind of claims their question. We learn even more information. There's apparently a rumor that has been around, again, the entire state that Rosie hooked up with a basketball coach. She denies that. She says they never even met.

Somebody asks Joe Ellen if she is a swinger, a swinger, as other people might say. And she says that she denies it, but she says she and Gary had a threesome one time. Interesting to note, though, we also found out last week that she used to sleep with the owner of the Tannin salon that she worked at and also his wife. So Joellen, maybe not a swinger currently, but threesomes run in the family? I don't know. Kelsey admits via this game that she is dating another man in addition to the sugar daddy of a decade. And that they're both great people and she would be happy to end up with either or. Again, this wasn't even the main point of the game.

And we've learned three more intense relationship things. and then we get to Liz's question, or should I say Alicia's question to Liz. And this note that she writes and puts in the box, oh my God, they zoom in on it. And it is, it says, I know it not true. Love you, question mark, but the news. Is it true? Alicia, Hart, X O X O X. First of all, what does that mean?

What are you saying? What is that? What does any of that mean? It's just, I mean, if that is a representation of how Alicia's brain is working on the inside at all times, it makes sense that we're getting, I ran over a woman with no context. Like, that's, yeah, I know it not true, love you, but the news, is it true? And Liz says, what's the news? What's the news? And we find out that there's a rumor.

Again, presumably all over the state because, you know, shit spreads, that Liz had a kind of relationship with her best friend, Dino. And of course, his name is Dino because, of course it is. And Rosie says that there was something about this guy Dino and her calling each other 400 times. and, you know, if you want to do a little Googling, there are some, like, legal documents that there's, like, some allegations against Dino that aren't great. Something related to some sort of a legal substance. I'll just say that.

And so there are, like, phone records and stuff that have come to light as part of this. And so I think when Rosie says that there's a rumor about this calling each other 400 times, I think that the root of that is coming from this legal thing where there are phone records. And yes, it's like hundreds of interactions between the two of them. But Liz says nobody in the group understands the relationship between her and Dino and that they had an unconventional relationship and that maybe it wasn't completely, you know, the right thing, but that it was not a torrid affair. But she says that Jerry was getting into his sport fishing again, where the fuck are we?

We're in Rhode Island. That's where. He was on sport fishing trips gone for weeks at a time. Who has the PTO to be on a sport fishing trip for weeks at a time? I'm taking off half a day tomorrow. And I feel like I have to like, you know, pry myself away from the computer. I'm jealous. I want to be the king of cannabis.

I can go on the sport fishing trip for weeks at a time. No, that doesn't, I don't actually want to do that. I want, I want weeks off so I can do something very much different from sport fishing. But she says when he was gone on the sport fishing trip, she would spend all her time with Dino. But it was not a torrid affair. 400 phone calls, though, something thereabouts. It is just, it continues to astound me through these first two episodes, the amount and the, the intensity of the revelations we are getting about these women's personal lives.

And the fact that we have gotten this type of thing from Liz, from Rula, from Joe Ellen, from Kelsey, Rosie has dipped her toe in. Ashley has cried two episodes in a row about her husband's dedication to the coffee shop. Almost everyone in this cast is like knee-deep in something. And we are finding out about it right off the bat. Now, there might be more layers to peel back. I hope there are. I imagine there are. But again, to have this rich of a tapestry to talk through after just two episodes of a show is really astounding. And I, congratulations to these women. And if the chatter online, if the engagement on our posts is any indication, this show is doing very well. I imagine Bravo is extremely happy with it right now. And the sky's the limit. Like those astronauts up by on Artemis 2. The sky's the limit. These women send them to the moon.

Alicia would be like, oh, look this, Saturn. Did I forget my crocus? Was the rings? Was the moon? I thought the dark side of the moon was dark. Why is it light? Why can they see? I would watch it.

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The new season premiered this past weekend, and I do think, weirdly, out of all the shows that are on right now, I feel like the Atlanta premiere has perhaps gotten a little under-disgust because of how much has been going on in the world of Bravo specific. I mean, like the world at large, too, like, yes. But I do feel like Atlanta needs like a little bit of a boost right now. Not because it's not good, but just because I think it's easy to get lost in the conversation. And similarly, I think the Valley, two episodes in, I've not heard much Convo about

the Valley yet this season. I don't think I'm really going to touch on it today because I feel like I went long on Rhode Island. Sorry. I, no, actually not sorry. The Valley, though, I think is a little tough for me after two episodes. It feels like all the storylines right now are really just lingering from last season. And I think I was already kind of ready to move on from them by the end of last season. Atlanta, though, I'm in a little bit of a better place with because right off the bat, it's feeling fun. It's feeling like there is a sense of levity, a sense of fun shade, a sense of just kind of like fabulosity that I think Atlanta really does well. And I'm into it. The premiere is not an episode that I think is like an all-time great, but it's an episode

that to me has enough of the right stuff that I'm like, okay, we've got something we can work with here. We start right off the bat. Angela Oakley and Charles Oakley are at home. They're making burgers. Charles, like, showing the middle of his burger directly to the camera. It's like, okay. But they, of course, are in this perpetual state of people thinking that her husband can't stand her. And I love, I have been really enjoying. Angela is, like, clapping back at people online in the most unserious way. Like somebody,

Charles gives her a hug in this scene and somebody's like, oh damn, like the first time he's ever hugged her. And Angela was like responded to that tweet or thread or whatever the fuck app

it was on. And she goes, no, don't be rude. That was the second time. I'm like, yes, thank you. That is so fun. I would so much rather

Angela kind of like have this playful relationship with the things that people say about her, then go off on a, you know, paragraph rant every time some rando with 12 followers is like trying to drag her marriage. Have fun with it. You're on housewives. They're not. Enjoy yourself.

Live your life. Their thing that she's a little frustrated about, though, is that in the offseason, he said on a podcast that he got married to Angela because somebody drugged his drink, which not great, not super ideal. But she says that she super doesn't care about any of the rumors from last year, any of the things that people had to say about her marriage. I will just say we're one episode in. We'll see how that holds up.

We have two new housewives this season, but the big, you know, the main attraction, the big draw. is K. Michelle. K. Michelle, reality icon, songstress, extraordinaire, is taking her talents to the Real Housewives of Atlanta. And she's also doing country music. She's, she's blazing a new trail, just like, I was going to say just like her pioneer ancestors, but no, she's blazing a new trail in country music. Beyonce is sending her flowers. Who else? Who else can say that? Certainly not Drew Sedora. And it has been it's been

fun for me to watch Drew and K. Michelle sort of feuding before the show even started because there was an interview a couple weeks ago where Angela, K. Michelle, and Fadre were on the Sherry Shepard show

and K. Michelle was talking about her issues with Drew and Sherry was asking about it. And K. Michelle goes, I will just say it's not about what people think it's about because people think or will think that we are feuding about music because, you know, Drew does music. Yeah, Drew does music. Uh-huh. And Kay Michelle, like, does music. Note the, you know, I said those a little differently. And Kay Michelle said, I don't feud about music with beginners.

I don't feud about music with people who don't do music. That's not something playful to me. She's like, she's dreaming about what I do. And I just, that energy right off the bat. I'm like, okay, yeah. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I'm here for that. But Kay Michelle's first scene is her at this photo shoot with Portia. And it was fun the way that they introduced

K to the show because it felt a little bit acknowledging of the fact that this is somebody that we already have, many people watching already have an existing relationship with, a background knowledge of both because she is just like a well-known person and, you know, yes, because she has been on other reality shows. And I think it's always a little bit delicate how you handle something like this when somebody joins housewives or you know a new show for the first time because you don't want it to be like i'm k michel from love and hip hop and that's how you know me and i'm you know now i'm in a new chapter but you also kind of have to acknowledge it you have to you have to let the audience know that you know and so you know portia and k michel are catching up

you know portia's divorce is final kishel just got married to a guy in nashville dr cast in, like very recently. We find out that Portia is calling Shamiya her ex-best friend and that their friendship has been non-existent, but she's inviting her to this dinner party. And Portia's like, oh, I'm inviting Drew Sadorra, your fellow singer. And that's when Kay Michelle starts to be like, girl. Okay. Okay.

But then Kay has a confessional where she says, she says, my power. experience with women in Atlanta destroyed me. And she basically says now her whole career is about proving bitches wrong. And I love that. What better way to just like quickly address whatever people are thinking about of the last time they saw you on love and hip hop and just address it, deal with it and fucking light that trash can on fire. She said that destroyed me. I have moved on. I am a whole housewife now. And my entire career, everything I do is to show everybody who doubted me that they were dumbasses. And, you know, I said when this, when this season was announced, I have not seen all of K Michelle's reality TV output. I've watched some love and hip-hop, but not enough, frankly. But I am just like excited to have a fresh, energy. And the one thing I was noticing, so I mentioned earlier Charles Oakley, like, showing his hamburger to the camera. And then in this scene with Portia, I noticed over and over

again, Kay Michelle was like looking straight down the lens of the camera. And I was like, is this, because I had noticed it twice early in the episode, I was like, is this something that they're like trying this season? Is this a new, is this a new like look that they're, that they're going with? And somebody asked Kay about it on social media. And she, was like, oh, I don't know what that was. Either I was confused by the camera set up and didn't know where to look or I was trying to get somebody on my team's attention. She said it was not intentional. So I was like looking out. I'm like, wait, are we like looking at the camera this season? Is this like Abbott Elementary? What are we doing? Seems like it wasn't an intentional decision.

I'm a little perplexed by why they left it in the edit, but still, it's funny to me. Also, to me, I have no idea if this is how she intended it, but I sort of, I sort of read it as a little bit of like shade to VH1 and love and hip hop when she was like, oh, maybe, maybe there were like more cameras than I was used to. Maybe it was like a different setup. I'm like, oh yeah, because housewives is like bringing in the cameras. It's not like, you know, one guy with a tripod and then you kind of just like go for it. We've got budget here. And it. And it's like, Atlanta. But the whole episode kind of centers on this big dinner party that Portia has, and she has maintained the home that she and Simon lived in. It's a home that we have seen on this,

on this show before, not last season, because last season she, I believe, was not allowed to film in this home as the divorce was being handled. But we have seen this home before because Fallon used to live there. So it's a familiar home to us viewers and also some of the ladies. And Portia is re-christening this former marital home with a dinner party where everybody is supposed to bring a date. Whether or not you got one, you got to bring one. And we have not one but two, FaceTime dates. Cynthia facetimes in her man who's in Amsterdam, La Prince. I'm like, sure. Why not? And then Drew never one to pass up. an opportunity to do the absolute most. Drew brings a man on FaceTime and keeps him on FaceTime

for the entire fucking dinner. And okay, watching this scene, it's maybe 15, 15, 20 minutes. You know how these shows film. They were at that house for it's got to be at least two to three hours. And this man is sitting there on FaceTime, Black, like Black with a cue, figure it out. sitting on FaceTime, I think he has a ringlight. She has him like propped up on the table. Somebody was like, how do he, I think it was Fager, she was like, did he have to go to the bathroom? Does that man have a colostomy bag?

I'm like, hearing Fager Park say the word colostomy bag. Not on my bingo card, but I'm glad I heard it. I'm glad it happened. But we are, where we get to at the this group dinner. There's some fun shade being thrown. There's some good moments. We find out that Ralph is still living in the basement. God damn it. But it feels like some of the drama that we're talking about is still a little bit reheated from last season because there's this whole issue with Fadra and Angela where they're beefing over something that happened at a Hawks game and that

somebody with Fadra, according to Angela, came up to her and said, I'm the one with hands, like, implying that she's going to, like, beat her up or something. It's very, um, Real Houseways of Dallas behind, behind the, um, the door when it's like, they're just hands, but they work fine. It's like, okay, whatever that means. Um, but they're going back and forth about this. Fadra is like, well, I saw the tapes and that didn't happen. She's implying that she pulled the security tapes at the fucking Atlanta Hawks game.

and that she reviewed the footage and nobody said anything to Angela. And then she says in the confessional that she actually hasn't seen the tapes, but she asked them to check the tapes and they, I don't know, it's very convoluted. Fadra is clearly like bluffing a little bit here. And I would just say, I mean, this is kind of going back to what happened last season where there was, you know, somebody who came and gave like a shady toast. And again, that was like somebody from Faye's. Fadra's team, like, it just, it feels like Angela and Fadra, if they want to have an issue,

I need it to be something grounded a little bit more in the events of the show. Because right now, it's very, like, under the surface, like, somebody that was on your team said to me that somebody was on my team, that your guy came to this thing, and it's like, no, like, fight on camera, please. Fight about not getting invited to a party. fight about saying something crazy about somebody's husband. Fight about something I can watch and like understand. Because when the drama gets a little bit too like hearsay, word of mouth,

it just is less, it's less fun to be like invested in. And I think this cast has really great potential. I thought last season was like pretty good. I think Kay Michelle is a fun edition. We do meet Pinky Cole. I don't know really where to place her kind of yet. She's like listing off all her magazine covers. She says she built a $100 million brand with slutty vegan.

And I'm already thinking in my head about in the season trailer she's talking about filing for bankruptcy. So I'm like, okay, where's the, where's the drop off? There's got to be a cliff coming somewhere. But you know, it's a fun little episode. It's a fun little premiere. I hope it's a great season. We'll see where it goes. And just to wrap up, I want to talk about Beverly Hills a little bit.

I was so sure I was so sure that this week was going to be the season finale of Beverly Hills. It just, have we not been through enough? It's been a long fucking season. This show premiered in December. It's April. I think next week is their finale, but this week's episode ended with a to be continued.

So we didn't even get a next week So I was thinking it would say next week on the season finale of Real House and The House of Sive Beverly Hills, but it just said, to be continued, now I have to sit here and wonder. It's next week, thank you, producer Joe, but it's been a while. Three part reunion. I will say, the reunion looks came out today, and Jennifer Tilley mopped the fucking floor with them.

She's wearing this gown, a custom Balman gown. With her face on the front of the dress, it's like a half of the face. It's like a black, like velvet looking gown with like a half face of her made out of beads. And it is like a vivid image of her with red lipstick. She looks fucking cool. Her hair up to high heaven. That is how you show up and show the fuck out at a reunion because you know, you can't get that from from you know marlowe's archive rental you can't get that from somebody's

designer showroom that is custom made for yourself one of one nobody else has that i mean nobody else would want that because it's fucking custom the one other version i have seen of that of somebody else having one with the picture of them made out of the beads is Kylie Jenner. Obviously Kylie and Jennifer Tilley, very different, but both fucking rich. So that's one thing I'm excited to see at the reunion. Anything else? No, I mean, this episode wasn't bad necessarily. One thing I will give, I am glad that we are not fully leaning into every housewife season.

ending on the trip. Because we have gotten, you know, it has worked quite well for Salt Lake in the last few years, starting with that, you know, Reality Vante's Bermuda trip. They've done it now, I think, three seasons in a row on Salt Lake where the last, you know, the last dinner of the trip, essentially, is the end of the season. They did it on Potomac this past season in Colorado, which, of course, was an awesome, hilarious finale. I like that we are coming back from Tuscany and still having something to do. Because I think ending the finale on the trip can be an amazing way to end.

But I think the trip has to kind of earn that. And yeah, I mean, they were like yelling at the last dinner in Tuscany. But I just, I don't think it's always the right editing choice. And so we got back from Tuscany last week. you know, everybody's debriefing, complaining, catching up, whatever. But we still have quite a bit to go because we have Rachel's birthday party. It's like disco vibes. She gets everybody to show up.

Good for her. One of the funniest things, though, about this party. First of all, Kyle, not knowing Rachel's son's name, when even Kathy did, she's like, oh, oh, that's Rachel's son. And Kathy's like, oh, Kaias. And Kathy's like, and Kyle's like, oh, like, um, callus? Cala? Cala? She's like, no, Caius, that's the name.

You know it's bad when Kathy knows the name and you don't. Like, Kathy's whole thing is to not know the name. Anyway, no, but what actually made me laugh is that there's a random moment when the party has kind of like, you know, gotten into people on the dance floor or whatever of Nicole, our like phantom friend of this season who was on the trip to Tuscany but we've like never heard from Nicole is like Camille grammar style really moving it and shaking it on the dance floor she's fully doing the splits and we get like a whole shot of her just dancing by herself and Jennifer Tilly and the confessional going Nicole earned every penny of that big divorce settlement

I'm like what big divorce settlement why in episode 17 of the season, are we deciding we need to spotlight Nicole? Where was Nicole for the first 12 episodes? I'm so confused. Because it's like, it sounds like Nicole's big divorce settlement was maybe a topic of conversation, but conversation that we never saw. So I'm just, it's weird all around. I would love to have like a proper answer to like what the fuck happened with Nicole this season.

She's not at the reunion, obviously. Like, I can't think of them having her, whatever. But anyway, back to sort of the main arc of the group besides Kyle not knowing Rachel's son's name. Doreet is really leaning into this idea in these last few episodes of Kyle forming this kind of band of minions against Doreet. Specifically, Erica, Sutton, and Amanda. And when she first kind of started bringing it up, like, towards the end of the Italy trip, I was a little bit like, okay, like, you're kind of doing a lot. People have their own issues with you.

Amanda's like a whole other can of worms. And like Kyle and Amanda have really only been getting along for like a week and a half. Like I don't think they have some like deep friendship. But toward the end of this episode, you're starting to see it more. Because Derreet, the episode ends with Derreet having a book cover. reveal party, which I feel like we did on another show. It's, she's, she's definitely, they're acting like this is so ridiculous to have a party where you're just like releasing the cover of the book.

And I'm like, we've, we've definitely been here before. Um, but anyway, we didn't, I think Macy on Mormon wives did that where it was like, the book cover. Anyway, I digress. But so she's having this book cover release party and it's after they've gotten into it at Rachel's birthday party where, you know, Doreet says she needs to have a convo with Kyle and Dorete feels like Sutton is having a lot of opinions about how she should approach it. And, you know, she's been very stressed because it's been her kid's first day of school. And so Doreet walks away from Sutton.

Sutton's like, I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. And then Sutton goes back to confront Doret later in the party for hurting her feelings. And Doret's like, well, I'm sorry. And she's like, look, if I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And it's like, okay, got it. You're not sorry. Thank you for clearing that up in action, if not in word. So Doreet walks away from Sutton twice at that party. And so then leading into her book reveal thing, she's like, oh, I just don't know. I don't know about this half of the group, but she's inviting everyone. It's a big moment for her.

And we have like a lot of lead-up of Sutton, you know, talking shit about the party on FaceTime with her mom, Riba. Erica's talking to Rachel about how it would devastate to read if she doesn't come to the book party. And Rachel's like, yeah, it would. It really would. The foreshadowing is heavy here. You know, Kyle is feeling conflicted about whether to go. Amanda's like, I just don't know. I don't know if I can go.

But she hasn't written the book yet, but she hired a ghostwriter. I mean, it's a little out of order. It's a little wonky. but then the episode ends with this like ominous reveal Amanda decides to go Sutton facetimes Bose while she's in the car to say she's not coming we hear that Kyle is tired and overwhelmed so she's not going to make it

Sutton Sutton texted 30 minutes after the event started that she's not going to make it but she hasn't heard from Erica so she's like oh Erica should be here and it's like dramatic music dramatic music dramatic music and the episode ends with Erica knocking on the door, and it's the door to Sutton's house. So we know that Erica is not going to Doreet's party. Now, is this messy?

Of course, they're like, oh, this is going to look really bad, but we didn't plan it. And it's like, I don't know if it looks really bad. It just is like kind of shitty. It's kind of shitty that you didn't go. But the whole thing that I find really interesting is that Beverly Hills has been here before. because do we not remember the years on this show when we were talking about the Fox Force 5 when at the time it was Kyle, Derreet, Erica, Lisa Rina, and Teddy? And this is back when, you know, when LVP was leaving, when Garcell was coming on the show,

when Sutton was first, you know, coming on the show. Denise was around during those times. Like we have been in this almost, I mean, really similar position on Beverly Hills where there was kind of this click forming within the cast that was weaponized in a way that wasn't very fun for the viewers to watch an experience. Even if you liked people in that group or you were on their side in a certain situation, it just wasn't a very fun. viewing experience. And it's not the exact same situation, but I do think it's a little ironic that Doreet is like so hopped up on this idea that there's this like group being formed against her and it's a little bit like, I mean, perhaps a taste of her own medicine.

But I mean, it's a different situation and obviously Dorete has been going through stuff with her divorce. And I think it's going to be really interesting. going into the reunion for this season, because obviously nothing good is going to happen in the finale. What is the ideal way forward for Doreet? Is she really looking at Kyle and Erica and saying that these friendships are past the point of no return?

Is it that serious? I don't know. But at the same time, I think there has to be like some, somebody has to give, basically. because right now they're just on completely different pages, especially Kyle and Derreet. And Erica's just kind of over it. She's like, I put in years of your, with your bullshit. I don't need to be spoken to like this.

But we'll see. We'll see. Next week is the season finale, I've been told. The one thing I just want to mention, before Derreet's whole book party, I kind of wanted to talk about that all in one because it's split up a little bit. But Bose gets engaged on this episode. And I kind of forgot that, I mean, I guess we knew that this was, I don't know, it snuck up on me. You know, people have some mixed things to say about Keely. Some people think he's like a scammer.

People don't love the, like the conversation they had earlier this season about him like not having his job anymore in the future. That was kind of a weird vibe. I don't know. I'm not that tuned into what's going on in Boz's personal life. But was it not weird? Okay. So she shows up to like dinner. She's like, oh, like a reservation.

whatever. They take her to this private room and her entire extended family is there, which is cute, whatever, maybe not what I would want, but like, fine. And Keeley's there. She's crying, whatever. Every single person in that room is holding up their phone, filming like they are at Barricade at a Black Pink concert. Like flash on phone in front of their face. It's like, put the fucking phone down. I get you want the memories. This is being, I, we're talking about it right now. It's being filmed by a professional film crew.

And also, like, is there not, does Keely not have like a photographer there, like snapping some pictures? I think if you are going to have a proposal like that where there is like a group of people assembled, I think you designate, hire a photographer. If you have money, they have money, I think, allegedly. hire a photographer, and if you want to have one person taking like the iPhone video for people to post on their Instagram stories, pick one. Better yet, get somebody that works at the restaurant to do it. Be like, hey, can you film for the next 30 seconds? I just would be so not to yuck anyone's yum. I mean, if you dream of getting engaged with people with their phones and their faces, that's amazing for you. I just like, get off your phones. I love to go to a concert where the artist is like, put the phones away. Be in the moment.

Is that like a boomery take of me? I don't know. I'm just like, you're getting engaged and you're like second cousin's aunt is there filming like she's at Coachella. Enough. Put the phone down.

I'm going to put the iPad down. I think we're done. That was a fun time. Thank you so much. Thanks everyone for listening. Like I said, fun guests happening all through the month. So make sure you're subscribed.

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