Mention It All - RHONY Is Back! Breaking Down The New Cast, New Drama, & New Headaches Ft. Erin Lichy

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

Erin Lichy joins Dylan to talk all things RHONY as the show kicks off a brand new season. She opens up about the shifting dynamics with Jessel, why their friendship hit a rough patch, and what really went down during RHUGT. Erin also shares why Carole Radziwill fits so naturally into the new cast, how Lindsay Hubbard became a sounding board while she was filming, and why she feels more comfortable than ever saying exactly what she thinks. Plus, she talks about the new Housewives joining the group, where she stands with former cast members like Brynn, Jenna, Ubah, and Raquel, and why she already has plenty to get off her chest at the reunion. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday & Friday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. It has been a minute since we had Real Housewives of New York City to talk about. But now the apples are back. And Aaron Leachie is back in the studio. How are you?

I'm so good. Summer was so nice and long and warm and fuzzy. And now I'm back. Was it nice? So when did you guys kind of wrap filming for this season? Like in the... End of May. End of May.

So you had the summer to just kind of like not think about it that much. The best timing. And then now it's Labor Day. And it all comes back. And I'm like, oh. Oh my God, that happened. I can't believe I said that. You're like, what did I do exactly?

Oh, my God. I can't believe I'm part of this craziness. You had some time between last season and this season. What was it two years? All of last year, you guys weren't filming. Yeah. You had a baby. Had a baby.

Some people came, some people left. Yeah. What was it like having that time after being, you know, under the Housewives microscope where there was a period where it was like, who knows what's happening? The day after I had my baby, not the day after, but like two weeks after had my baby, I made a martini and posted a video and it went like viral. You probably saw that. Like so it wasn't really quiet, unfortunately, but. Yeah. But what was your mindset kind of after the prior season had wrapped up?

It wasn't clear right away kind of what the future was of the show, who was going to stay, what that would look like. did you kind of put it, you know, out of sight, out of mind until... I kind of just trusted in the process. Like, I really trust Bravo and I really mean that. Like, they're so crafty and amazing and they knew exactly what to do. And sometimes good things take time. And it took time for them, I think, to pick the real perfect, you know, additions to the cast. And I think they did an excellent job.

Yeah. And it's so, it's such an interesting thing because with New York more than any other, franchise, there is this whole past, you know, group of people. And there had been, in the past, this solid line between, okay, this was the old cast, now we have the new cast. And I think people were so wondering if it was something they would ever do to kind of combine the two. And now we have Carol on this season. I know. It doesn't even feel like they're combining the two. That's what's so weird to me. Carol is kind of her own entity. Yeah, like she just really fits and works. And it's like so natural. Yeah. What was your, did you, had you like heard that she was talking to people? I know she was at

BravoCon last year before there had been any big announcement. But like what was that like for you knowing that, oh, somebody's, somebody's coming back and we're getting new people. Honestly, I've been friends with Carol for a while. Yeah. That's the truth. I've been friends with her for a few years. And like every time we see each other, we end up talking for like multiple hours, like at a dinner or whatever and just catching up. And then after BravoCon, I think what, happened was she saw like this amazing fan base like that was still in existence. And I think it was just like so exciting. And she was like, let's go. You know, I don't know how it happened. I guess Andy asked her randomly. I feel like maybe sometimes like distance makes the heart grow

fonder where it's like, okay, I had a few years of like not having to do that. And suddenly I'm like, you know, maybe I would again. Yeah, I think so. And I also think that like she knew she knows some of, Like, I knew she knew Erica before and she knew me. And I think, like, she felt comfortable. It wasn't just, like, a random, getting thrown into a random new group of women. You know what I mean? And I think BravoCon sealed the deal. BravoCon last year was fun.

I feel like everybody had a good time. It was amazing. Like, good vibes. It was great. Yeah. Lots of, like, co-mingling. And then you guys, everybody did girls trip right after that. And then everyone did girls trip.

Yeah. And I saw her there. Yeah. And I saw her first at the, Halloween, which hasn't aired yet, right? Right, yeah. It's Halloween and then you go to Bluestone. Did you see that one yet?

Not yet. Okay, so I'm not going to say anything. And then we were at Bluestone Manor together and then we went right into filming a couple months later. Yeah. I've been loving watching the season of Ultimate Girls trip. Obviously, we haven't gotten to the parts that you attended yet, but it's just like so fun to see all the different combinations and who's having little tiffs with you.

And I know the Rhode Island cast also. Oh, I heard they were fighting the entire time. I was actually in a bus with them. Yeah. And part of the, you know, they showed clips of me saying things about Jessel. But what you didn't see was us going around the bus with someone asking like, okay, so who's the like the fakesist on your cast? Who's the third?

Like, we were prompted, right? But they were so funny. Yeah. I was on, I think I was with Alicia. I don't remember who else, which is terrible. But you were with Alicia, you were going to laugh. Yeah. But like the three of them were like, oh, you.

yeah, we hate her. She's horrible. Like their opinions, they were so passionate about it. It was very funny. Well, I feel like, because I talked a couple of them about it,

like while their season was airing. And it was so interesting because they had gone and filmed a whole season. They knew they were going to be housewives, but nobody in the world knew them yet. And so it was such a like. Ultimate Girl Trip you're saying. Yeah. Yes.

I know. And they were fighting also the whole time at Ultimate Girl's trip. I think we got some inklings of that. They were fighting. Like in the middle of the room, they were like, and at one point, And I think someone was like, can you guys please stop fighting?

Like, it's loud and it's a lot. It seemed like, though, you were maybe not anticipating the stuff with Jessel to kind of follow, follow you home from that. You know what? I had a couple drinks. People were asking questions. She had done a few things, which I hope, you know, is shown, but who knows if it will be.

That just irked me, rubbed me the wrong way. I felt like she wasn't being real with me. And it just bothered me because we had gotten really close after her dad's passed away. And it just, like, rub me. me the wrong way. And I voiced it probably a little too outwardly. What was your, what was your reaction seeing the, the voice memo from Chanel? I wasn't surprised. I wasn't surprised. She never told me who it was, but I figured it out. I was like, oh, I know exactly who told her. I actually kind of loved that in the moment you were

like, well, yeah, I said it, but like, who told you? That's all I want. I was like, now I'm curious. You told you. Like, which one? Because when you're with like 60 housewives? What do you expect? Honestly, what else were. What else were we really doing? We're all talking about our grievances with our other cast members and people that we, you know, film with and that we're friends with. That's what we were doing, like literally the entire time. I mean, if thirsty and whatever I said, embarrassing is back, you should not hear what

the other people were saying about their cast members. Like, it was really dirty. We'll see how much. This was the PG version. We'll see how much makes it to air. Yeah. Like, please. I'm curious coming back for this season with air, with you and Sondi.

and Jessel, was there a sense of like, we're the consistency here keeping kind of the, you know, carrying the torch a little bit because there was all this newness coming into the group. Like, was there any kind of communal sense of that? Or were you kind of just like, I'm just back for my own next chapter and it is what it is? It's so hard to answer this because I don't want to give too much away. I think I, like obviously I said some shit, whatever. But I felt like that kind of, and then just the dynamics shifted. And you guys will see.

I mean, it surprised me to see Jessel and Cy, confiding in one another so early in the season. And then like apologizing two years later for being rude to her about her husband. Well, it's funny. It is funny when you have a longer break between seasons. Obviously, you're, you know, seeing each other and things are happening off the show. But when you come back and it's like, what still, what do we remember versus what is like conveniently kind of memory hold? And it's like, okay, I distinctly remember that you couldn't stand her. Like, like even down to the last whatever, a couple of months. I mean, it's just,

it's funny. Yeah. So what was, what was it like kind of feeling out the new dynamic having Haley, Erica, Daisy was great, Carol within the group? Right off the back. It feels like there's a lot of fun potential with everyone who's coming in. So much laughter. So much fun. Ridiculous moments. I also think it's nice to have other people on that really don't care, like how they're perceived. And that is a huge, I think makes a huge impact on the show.

Like Carol, she's like, whatever. At this point, like, I'm literally bearing it all. I'm not censoring myself. She has big opinions. Daisy can't help herself. Like, she just says exactly what she thinks. Ailey is truly herself. Erica, I feel like it took her a little while to warm up, and then she was like off to the

races. So all amazing additions, like really, really great. I was watching the first scene that you had with Haley in the premiere. I was laughing out loud. You were really getting emotional about this, you know, with your daughter and the day you had gone through. And she's like, how do I get this girl to take off her shoes? I know.

There's germs all over the floor. The wine won't open. That wine opener, I was like, am I being punked right now? It was like an hour that we were trying to open that wine. Well, it's so, because I think when when somebody does a show like this for the first time, it's normal to kind of have that like opening period where you're like, I don't really want to be like that honest or like come, you know, be that, you know, real. And with her, it does feel like there's just like no, no filter, no nothing.

I know. No filter. I think that she, it's hard to explain, Haley, because she's like a really unique person and is very much of an individual. But she is herself, you know, she is herself on the show. So I think I think it's fun. Do you feel like over now that you've been doing this for a while, do you feel like you've gotten more able to kind of just let everything go and be yourself?

100%. Okay. 100. It definitely took me a second. Yeah. It definitely took me a second because I think I can't. from such a different background like I went to grad school I worked in real estate development like I was just so right professional minded and career driven that I wasn't open to just I mean I was

I would say things but then the minute someone wouldn't like it I'd be like oh my god I shouldn't have said that or I'm sorry or I you know but it's like now maybe that's also with age like I'm growing up and I just feel like this is what I think and I'm gonna tell you I think it's I I think it can go both ways though because I think there are some people where the long there on a show or in the, you know, spotlight or whatever, the more kind of guarded and, like, careful they can be about what they show. You're right. But I think, you know, for you, it does feel like, you know, at the end of the day, like,

you haven't had some, like, massive scandal or some, you know, like, crazy thing that you've had to combat on the show. Like, you've had ups and downs with friendships and, you know, family and stuff. But, like, it is kind of just like, okay. yeah, like I know how to act now when the camera's in my face and it is what it is. I feel like it's also now it's just like I'm going to be who I am. And if you guys don't like me, you don't have to like me. Some people will.

Some people won't. Some people will agree. Some people won't. And it's just getting comfortable that not everybody's going to like you at all times. Yeah. And that goes for any single person ever on reality TV. You're never going to have the entire fan base. You know what I mean?

It's just maybe when you leave and people are like, we miss you. but it's but while you're airing like people are always going to have opinions and I think being okay with that takes a minute and then once you are especially me like I'm I've always been a people pleaser I want people to be mad at me things like that but now that I'm okay with it it almost like opened the door to so much more and I was like let's just it's all an open book now you know what what do you want to know so yeah and it's like I think that's something where like if you try to be the the like people pleaser or like the audience pleaser all the time it can really backfire and then it's like it did for me this

girl is boring. She doesn't, you know, like there, you can't, it's like if you're trying to tip the scales too much in either direction, people are going to like sniff it out. 100% agree. Yeah. I mean, you're, you know this better than anything. But yes, I agree. New from Nespresso. Blend wellness into your coffee routine with a coffee plus range infused with functional benefits. Choose the coffee you love with added B vitamins, like coffee plus B12 to help support immune function and coffee plus B6 to keep your day moving or go with the flow and choose ginseng delight our new double espresso with ginseng extract whatever lies ahead don't change your morning let your morning change you discover coffee plus on espresso dot com you are friends with lindsay hubbard

very good i know i saw you at the in the city premiere a couple months ago i mean they have had a crazy whirlwind year, just of attention and everything. But I feel like she's somebody who, like, has really mastered the, like... Oh, yeah. I talk to her. Some days I'm the villain. Some days I'm the hero. At the end of the day, you can kind of make whatever work.

Yeah. I mean, I talked to her almost, I'd say, at least three times a week while I was filming this season. She was such a good sounding board. And, like, we would laugh about stuff. And that's like the levity is what kind of made me be like, okay, whatever. It's not that big of a deal. Like just go with it, you know?

But when you start like panicking, that's when you start being more reserved and not being able to be like as open as you possibly can. So talking to Lindsay has been so helpful this season. That's so interesting because it's, yeah, it is like over the course of a season too where it's like you're going to have so many lunches. You're going to, you know, have all these different conversations. Like if you're really trying to. kind of like micromanage every interaction.

You're going to be miserable and it's also like not going to be. It's not fun. Yeah. It takes the joy out of the whole process. Yeah. It really does. Okay. So maybe like next season we got to get Lindsay to like come join you.

Get it on camera. It is funny because I think for such a long time, Summer House was kind of like the like kids show. And it's like you guys are like not very far apart. We're the exact same age. You're the exact same age. one year older than me. Okay? Literally.

Like we party the same. Like, I mean, she probably out parties me. That's the truth. But like, we're very similar. We have babies the same age. Yeah. We go to Montauk together. Like, but it's just, I'm a housewife and she's on summer house.

Like, it's just a different category. They finally got them into the city and I'm like, okay, we feel like we're like at the graduating. We're at the big kids table now. We're at the big table. We're at the big table. Well. One day.

One day he will. You should be at the summer house. I know. You might see me pop up in different places this year, we'll say. I feel like the New York ecosystem should be fluid. I agree. Lindsay would literally go from Summerhouse like the summer and then come stay at my house. Yeah.

Or vice versa. I need a break. It's like, yeah, it was right there. Maybe you'll be on next gen NYC season three. Next gen. The youths are going to love you. I actually really like them. I really like Brooks.

I know him. They're a good group. I really liked you. I met her at the Ultimate Girls Trip premiere. She's so cute. Who else? I met one of the girls that's from the city. There's like Georgia, Ava.

I think Georgia. But then she told me she actually grew up in like Westchester. Okay. You know, I love when people do that. They're like, I'm from the city and they're like, oh, what part? They're like, you know, great neck. That's not the city. Oh, but I went to high school in, you know, Connecticut.

Well, okay. Well, then you're not from the city. Yeah. I keep my mouth. shut because I'm not from here, but that's okay. But I own, I would never pretend I am. Yeah, just don't say it. Okay, what are you, what do you, what is your

vibe of like, people say there's like the 10 year rule of you when you get to say you're a New Yorker or some people are like, no, never. I saw J-Lo said that. Very controversial. But I was kind of like, I love you for saying this. I also have always loved J-Lo. Like, I was obsessed with her. My friends know this.

It's like, it's both. Yeah. Because you can graduate. into a New Yorker because you know how to ride the subway and you know how to do all the New York things after 10 years. But it's different than being a grown, born and raised, like, for sure. Literally going to high school on the train by yourself, going to Monday night butter, like, in, you know, like after freaking geometry class. Like, these are the things that I was doing that only, like, a New Yorker that is born and raised in the city will do, you know? And let me tell you, I'm in my 30s,

and I see those, I see those kids on the train and I know my place. It's like, I'm intimidated. I appreciate that. I mean, I was riding a horse. There was, there was a barn called Claremont. I used to learn how, I used to ride horses. Yeah. I learned how to ride horses in Claremont, which was across the street from Central Park,

and I rode a horse through Central Park. Like, that was my after school activity. It's like so wild to me now that looking back on it because people would be like, what is, there's like a, there's a child on a horse in the middle of Central Park. They closed it. Obviously, that's not happening anymore. But like that, I did crazy shit like that. And when you're a New Yorker, you just get this grit and crazy education.

There's this whole like menu of options that just don't exist anywhere. It's a menu of options. It's a great way to put it. I remember one time I was going out with my girlfriend, Danielle, who's like my very close friend since I'm two years old. We were on the train. And there was, you know, a homeless guy on the train who was reading the newspaper. And it's like, like whistling, whatever.

All of a sudden he pulled up the newspaper and he had a huge hole. and his jeans and his entire package was out. And we were like, oh, my God. I think we were like 14. Like, can you imagine seeing that? I was like, oh, my God. There you go. Only your New York.

Who is there, who else in the cast is like born and bred New Yorker? Daisy is like born and bred. Okay. Cy, I think she went to high school in Florida, but she's from New York as well. Yeah, yeah. She's also from Brooklyn. Brooklyn, yeah. Yeah.

I think that's it. That might be it. That's it. Yeah. Daisy has such an interesting, like, aura. I feel like right off the bat, I'm like, I want to know everything about you. Yep. Martha Stewart is like.

No, she's like a daughter to her. I was just with them. An hour ago, we were at a lunch together. And I have to say, Martha looks so good. Like, she looks unbelievable. And the way Daisy does her makeup, I mean, she's beautiful. as it is. But the way she does her makeup

just brightens her and makes her look so, I don't know, she's really talented. Well, it's so, because I feel like, you know,

when you hear it's like, oh, Daisy is Martha Stewart's makeup artist. It's like for most, like, celebrities would be like, okay, she really does somebody's makeup.

Right. Like Martha Stewart, I feel like in these, in the last like 10 years has had this like renaissance almost where it's like she looks amazing. She doesn't give a fuck.

Her vibe is like, she says whatever she wants. The doc, she had the documentary a couple years ago. and it was like such a moment. Like it is, it's cool to be just like in the orbit of someone who has that. There's not a lot of people like that.

She's powerful. Yeah. She walks into a room and you're like, you want to talk to her. You know, and Daisy's her right hand. She travels the world with her. Yeah. They go everywhere together. It's amazing.

It's cool. What was your, I guess between, between all the new ladies this season, like, was there somebody that you were most kind of like, surprised by as you got to know them more? Like how did you kind of feel that they, you know, became more of a part of the group as it went on? I don't know if I was surprised by anyone, because I feel like they all kind of were,

like they are the way that they were in the beginning. I'd say that Carol, I think Carol jelled so well, and that probably surprised me. Oh, interesting. Like, I don't think I realized how well she would. gel. Yeah. And how it just made complete sense. You know what I mean? Because when you think about an OG, you kind of feel like, oh, is that is that being forced or whatever? But it just was so natural. That is, that's interesting to hear because I, I know what you mean where it's like, you could almost

think that bringing somebody like her into the group would be kind of like a like stunt cast kind of thing. Yeah. And it's, it's cool to hear that it's like, no, it actually just worked. It works so much. Yeah. It's pretty crazy, honestly. It really is. Like, you know, I don't think I, I didn't, I knew that she and I would be friends and we'd get along because we were friends ready. But I don't think I realize how well she would gel with everybody. Yeah. So.

Well, it's fun because I think like, I mean, you said. I mean, she started as a friend of. She ended up as. I think a lot of people forgot that. Like when they, when they put out the cast photo and the trailers and everything, it's like, yeah, we knew Carol was going to be on this. And I'm like, you guys like, no, we didn't know that she was going to be like holding the apple. She was not in the first episode because she was a friend of. And then it was.

like oh no she needs to stick around well she was in part of every single thing i loved that they added the like carrie bradshaw narration at the beginning i want to say i have to give a shout out because it's really important we have a showrunner this season i mean it's shed still obviously who's the i mean literally the best production agency that i know of um but we have a new showrunner lorry gordon who did salt lake city for many seasons yes and her team were so incredible like she deserves the credit because she's so passionate. She cares so much. She's like in the weeds with all of our stories. Sometimes if I'm like holding back, she's like, Aaron, I know you have something else to say. And that's so important because it's like sometimes you're like, oh, do I go that? Like, do I say what I

really feel? But when you feel comfortable with somebody and you know that they're like in your corner to make great TV, you just trust them with it. And she was just so great. Everyone was so great. She has somebody that's her right hand named Casey and he was amazing. All of them were just, it's a great team. So that experience alone, I think, changed it all. I remember hearing, I think while you guys were filming that they had brought in some people who had worked on Salt Lake. And I think that like Salt Lake, I don't know if you've watched all of it or how much. Oh, I love Salt Lake. It's like they do such a good job of there are over the top fights and ridiculous moments and stuff, but also you feel like you're getting so much personal story from all of them. And it feels like everybody's like

100% bought in to whatever that season is going to be. It's very true. And I feel like, I mean, you were saying back at the beginning how you like trust Bravo and they do a great job. But I think also like the production behind, you know, all of these shows. It's like, they work so hard to like find, to like really find it for every season. You have to be a mastermind. Yeah.

To like, like think about all the people's stories and piecing it all together. I mean, it's really, it's not easy. Yeah. And just like the professional. I mean, there was literally one of our producers that would come and if she'd see me stressed with the baby, she would hold him. She was like holding my baby half the time. Yeah.

So I mean, we just had, I think that also changes things because you forget, like there are all these people around you and when you feel so comfortable with them and it really feels like family. I mean, they, oh, I always loved everybody we worked with. Right. But I don't know. There's something different about this group. Well, yeah.

I think it's like it also makes sense like this is, it's a different show than it was the last two seasons that you did. The group looks a lot different. And sometimes you need a different touch with different, you know, pieces and figuring out how to put it all together. And just wait for Devin. She is great. Okay. She's great.

I mean, I feel like there is a lot of people are excited to have this show back. And I think, like, you know, Real Housewives of New York is such a, you know, foundational whatever. And, you know, having it back and feeling like there is this kind of, like, new excitement. excitement around it, I think, is exciting. And, like, showing the city and the sexy way it should be shown in. I am curious, you know, have you, how much have you kept up with some of the women that aren't on the show anymore with Jenna and Raquel and Uba and Bryn? I still speak to Jenna.

I still speak to Uba. You know, like here and there, I just wished her happy birthday. It was just her birthday in August. And I love them both. I always will. I talk to Raquel here and there, but not that often. honestly. And Brin doesn't speak to any of us. I'd be happy to talk to her. Like, I have no issue with her. I mean, it was rough, but it's been a while. And I hope she's well. I really do.

Yeah. It is, it feels like the kind of thing where it's like sometimes somebody just needs to kind of like remove themselves from. Yeah. Maybe that's what she wants. And yeah, it's fine. I don't know. I wish for the best. And, um, and Rebecca, Becky Minkoff. I just saw her in the Hamptons. I know. You guys were friends before she was on the show. Yeah, I do see her. And she's great. She's happy. She's, you know, doing great. I'm, so, like, we're, we're just getting into this season. We have so much left to go. So much. Where are you at in terms of thinking about watching it all back, the ups, the downs, whatever? Like, are you mostly excited? Are you kind of, like, dreading certain things? I'm nervous for something. Yeah. Yeah, I am. But I'm also excited.

Like it's not going to be fun to see my house in that like in that way and see my kids upset about it all over again and then maybe people poking fun at it, whatever. It just that was hurtful. Yeah. And I think that's it that when you're on when you're being honest and putting things out there, it's like you do then like there's the back end of that. Yeah. Like especially when it's like something so raw like it had just happened. Right. And it happened while I was filming.

Like literally. So to have that be part of the story. Yeah. And then to have it be, have any negative connotation when I was like, like, I was, my brain was like exploding. I'm like, how am I supposed to do this right now? Right. Also, fourth wall, even like, I'm filming a show and now I have to deal with like a flood

in my house. Yes. How am I supposed to do this? It was crazy. I mean, the cameras came. Obviously, you saw that. So that was helpful. So I didn't have to miss a day of shooting.

But it was really, it was tough to deal. with that while filming. Yeah, but I think that's something that like people, because we're just watching the show unfold, you don't realize. You don't think about that it's like when something comes up in your personal life, it's not just like, oh, I'll catch you next week. It's like, this is my real life. And my kids were upset.

And it was like, you know, during the spring break, usually at least we go up there for a little while to get them out of the city. And, you know, we were all like, you know, the kids were like, why aren't we going? Why aren't we going? It's like your house is gutted right now. So we can't go. Yeah, so whatever. How much were you aware of the stuff that Sai was dealing with with her marriage and things?

Because it seems like Jessel was kind of caught off guard by that. Oh, I knew. Okay. Yeah. That's why I get a little upset when people say that I spread people's business. Right. Because I never spread any of her business. Okay.

Yeah. I would never do that. I would gossip, of course. Well, I'm not going to sit here and say, I don't gossip. But not about things that are important like that. Okay. I'll never, ever talk about somebody's, you know, divorce, ever. Yeah.

Never. It does. Yeah. It feels like we're getting a different, like, energy side than we have in the past, which I'm intrigued by. But, like, you know, everybody has their stuff they're working through. Yeah, we'll see. Looking further ahead to, like, when it's reunion time this season,

do you feel like you're going to have a lot of stuff to sift through? Yep. Are you taking notes? Are you, are you, are you thinking about it? Getting prepared. Absolutely. You got to get ready.

I have a lot to get off my chest. Well, you have a couple months, probably a few months before we get to that. But I'm excited for this season and I think it's going to be a good one. Me too. Thanks for being here. I love being here. I'm glad to have you guys back. I'm glad to see you.

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