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Episode Date: August 21, 2024

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Who's on check me both Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast It's Wednesday We have lots to talk about Of course we have a new episode of Dubai

We are going to get into We have a real housewives of Salt Lake City trailer I knew that it was coming on Monday And come on Monday It did And I have now had a couple days to sit with it and excited to get into the new season. But first, we have some really,

really important news to talk about. And I'm just going to read a headline from people. Lisa Vanderpump is teaming up with Kroger grocery stores on a collection of floral bouquets. Oh my God. What great news. If you live in an area with the Kroger, that is so exciting that starting the first week of September, you'll be able to buy a Lisa Vanderpump branded bouquet of flowers at the grocery store. Just truly, like what what a special moment. She really is giving Blake lively with her new business venture, and I guess I like that for her. Lisa Vanderpump, it really is interesting kind of how many different checks she continues to get. Like she's on multiple different shows, multiple different

networks, she's got all the like pet stuff going on, and now floral bouquets at Kroger grocery stores. It's interesting when somebody gets like a certain level of famous and successful, how they sort of like water down their brand to make a buck because Lisa Vanderpump, if she walked into Villa Rosa, and I feel like there are always fresh flowers in her home, if there were like Kroger bouquets as her centerpiece, I think that she would fire someone. Like I just don't think like grocery store flowers. And I'm sure her grocery store flowers will be the loveliest, you know, classiest grocery store flowers you've ever seen. But like, I just don't think that she would really be satisfied with like a $699 little bouquet that you get at the Trader Joe's cashier. Like, that's

not the Lisa Vanderpump by, but I'm happy for her. I hope that her, um, I hope that her, uh, bouquet collection at Kroger just does, just bang up business. Another piece of breaking news that is not technically Bravo related, but, you know, my skill in life is making everything Bravo related. So we're going to talk about it, is that Jennifer Lopez has filed for divorce from Ben Affleck. Now, this is not news in the sense of, wow, I'm surprised. It's news in the sense of, we've known this for two months and now it's actually real. She filed for divorce. TMZ reported this first yesterday.

It's happening. The date of separation was listed as April, so really the whole time that there have been rumors of this, they have indeed not been together. Interestingly, though, one of the things that T. MZ is reporting through, you know, sources, who knows, alleged, alleged, alleged, that they do not have a pre-up. Now, this is something we've talked about this on Housewives. We've begged Teresa Judice to get a pre-up. Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck getting married at their like big 50-year-old ages and not getting a pre-up is so, so wild to me. And I don't know the intricacies of their finances.

I'm sure they both have, you know, plenty of money and neither of them is going to be left, you know, destitute by this arrangement or anything, but like, why wouldn't you get a pre-up? Jennifer Lopez is out here spending $30 million of her own money to make like a shitty CGI feature film length music video about how much she loves Ben Affleck. And he's like looking distressed with a cigarette and a Dunkin' Donuts every day. Separate the money. That seems like a no-brainer. But the reason that I actually am talking about this, because I promise that I want to tie it back to Bravo,

is that thinking about Jennifer Lopez, you know, kind of in like a reset era, freshly divorced, maybe with a few less coins than she has had previously. Because I feel like she probably just, I feel like she's a bigger earner than Ben Affleck at this stage in her career. She does so many things. She does music. She cancels tours. She's in hit number one movies on Netflix that I couldn't name. But apparently they are some of the.

most watched movies in the world. She does press tours that, you know, make her look questionably, you know, like a nice person to spend time with. She, I think, has a makeup line or like a skincare line or something, which I'm sure that she uses diligently. But look, if Ben has taken some of those coins and J-Lo needs like a little bit of a reset, what if she spent a season on Real Houseways of New York? What season?

What is it going to be? 16 next year. I just feel like that could be. something that we could see. I don't think it's like, I'll be real. I don't think this is going to happen. But just like walk with me down the, you know, potential lane. Imagine Jennifer Lopez and Jenna Lyons. I just think that that would be iconic. Two, two strong, beautiful women who maybe had their professional primes 10 years ago, just kind of going for it with the outfits

and kind of the esteem and the legacy of being a 2010s icon. I mean, Jennifer Lopez is obviously like head and shoulders, fame and, you know, notoriety and everything above anybody on that cast. But like, I would like to see Jennifer Lopez have to like handle Bryn Whitfield. I would like to see Jennifer Lopez. I would like to see Aaron Leachie actually contend with the fact that Jennifer Lopez is actually famous and successful. And Aaron, I think, would be very bothered by having her in her space. I just think it could be fun. And Andy, Andy does like Jennifer Lopez compared to a lot of people who don't seem to have the best

experiences or things to say about working with her or interacting with her. Andy actually did defend her earlier this summer when there was kind of controversy around her. It was when she was canceling her tour. People were saying, oh, she seems like a nightmare. You know, the, if you know, you know, the orange drink and ham and cheese on a roll. Like, it made her look kind of silly. And Andy said that she has always been a great guest on Watch What Happens Live. She's been on there like four times. He said she was, she wasn't late. She was game for anything. She's been on his radio show too. Like, Andy is, I think, team J-Lo. And so I don't know.

I feel like I've talked about how maybe after this season of Roney, they're going to need a little bit of a shake-up. And like, what if they brought in a ringer for one season? It could happen. I mean, thinking back to, like, Lisa Rina getting cast on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, now, I mean, I don't want to, like, pump up Lisa Rina's ego to say that she and Jennifer Lopez are equivalent. But, like, it could be fun. It could be fun or not.

I feel like some people are going to be like, no, get you. off the houseway. She doesn't belong there. Bring Ramona back. People would rather have Ramona back than J-Lo, probably. But, you know, it is what it is. So good, so good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack

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much you miss them when they're not on and how much you wait for them to come back. And I think that with Salt Lake City, this is their fifth season. They still have five of their original housewives on the cast. This is a, this is a solid, sturdy, dependable franchise at this point. And I think that is, I think that we need to give them their flowers. I think that they have earned it. And not only that, not only are they always entertaining, not only are they coming up with something new every season, but they have stuck to an extremely consistent production schedule now for five seasons. And that is something that very few of these franchises can say. Certainly currently we are in a spot of a lot of shuffling around the calendar, a lot of hiatus,

a lot of put on pause, you know, wondering when things are going to come back. And real houses of Salt Lake City, they get their asses back. into filming and they have a new season ready for the fall. Since 2020, when this show premiered, there has not been one year where we were like, what are they doing with Salt Lake City? When are they filming? Who's coming back? Like every single season, even after, remember when Jen Shaw was going to prison two years

ago? And we were like, what will become of this franchise? What will they even have to talk about? And then they gave us season four. They found Monica Garcia in some cavern in Utah and we're like, this is what we need. And this season, it looks like they have done it again. The new season premieres on Wednesday, September 18th. So we have just a few weeks to get in gear, a few weeks to prepare.

And I want to talk about this trailer a little bit. I want to talk about our new women in the cast because we have three new women in the cast. We have a new housewife, Bronwyn. And I just never thought that we would have another housewife named Bronwyn. Because I think for me and for probably a lot of you who watched OC season 14, 15, Bronwyn is a little bit triggering. As a concept, as a person as a name, Bronwyn Wendomberg was a housewife who had a short tenure,

but made a lot of noise and just so many. question marks, so many puzzling things. And looking back on that era of OC, I feel like Bronwyn wasn't, she wasn't the only problem with the franchise. She maybe wasn't even the biggest problem with the franchise. I mean, those seasons have a Kelly Dodd-shaped, you know, hole through them. But I just, going back to a place of Bronwyn is a little tricky. Thankfully, thankfully, this Bronwyn spells it differently. So this is B-R-O-N-W-Y-N. So that's Bronwyn. I think they're pronounced the same, but this is, I'm going to read the descriptions that Bravo is giving us of our new ladies, because I think those are always a little interesting and a little bit

informational too. And so it says, Bronwyn arrives in Couture with her over-the-top fashion and a sense of humor as sharp as the diamonds she wears. A longtime friend of Lisa Barlow, Bronwyn makes a splash with the ladies with her outrageous, fabulous, and confrontational style. Now, great. Gorgeous gowns. Love to see it. In the trailer, we get this like montage of her different outfits. And one of my favorite housewife tropes is when somebody is like known for fashion and everybody's like, oh my God, she has the best style. She's such a good dresser. She's always in couture. And then you see the outfits and it's like fucking clown car shit. Because we see Bronwyn, she's rolling up in the first,

probably faux fur, like red heart-shaped coat that was a thing like eight years ago. I remember, because I was in the trenches of Tumblr when this was a thing. I think Rihanna wore it. It was like, you know, celebrities were wearing it. It was a thing. I think it was San Laurent. But like, sorry, pulling this coat out that like looks like it was living on Tumblr in 2014 doesn't make me think like fashion icon. And she pairs it with these like pants that have lip marks all over them. Like, that's not doing it for me. She's in this, um, matching, like, yellow leopard print set that's like tiny little shorts, a bra and a puffer coat of all the same print. And I'm like, first of all, where in the fuck and what season are we in? Like, where are you

going in Salt Lake City that requires or even allows this type of ensemble? What is the, what is the dress code? What is the idea here? And we see a few more. outfits and it's just, it's one of those things where it's like, even sometimes with Doreet, I find this, where people are like, oh my God, derreet, iconic, fashion, fashion, fashion, she gives fashion, she serves looks and it's like, right, but like, are they, are the looks good? Is the fashion, fashionable? Or is it just like she gives you a lot visually to talk about? And I, I think that this is a great, this is a great thing for a new housewife. We haven't necessarily had like, a fashion girl in Salt Lake City other than Mary Cosby who like talks about fashion but then always

kind of looks boring and honestly like the only thing is like that Willy Wonka ass house with the weird chairs and decorations and everything but like it seems like Bronwyn is going to give us a lot to look at and a lot to dissect and I'm a fan of that and then we have two friends of Brittany and Maylee, Britney spelled B-R-I-T-A-N-I, if that isn't the most Mormon thing I have ever heard. So her description is Utah Native and practicing Mormon, Brittany Bateman, is a real estate developer,

actress, an accolated singer in an on-again, off-again relationship. Brittany is introduced to the women through her friend Heather, but bumps heads with a few of the ladies from the jump. Okay. There is like, like sly so much. unpack your, okay, so she's a real estate developer, actress, and accolated singer. First of all, like, are these careers or are they, like, like, interests that you check off on, like, a hinge profile? Because, like, are you a real estate developer, or are you an actress, or are you a singer?

This is the same, like, Tallene on this season of Dubai when they're like, oh, she has this, like, huge music career. I'm like, where? For who? What? What? This, you know, Play me the music. I want to hear a song. I don't think we've heard any songs from Tallinn this season. And I'm feeling that Brittany is going to be the same. It's going to be like, oh, yeah, like, I was a professional singer for many years. And it's like, I know that that can mean a lot of different things. Like you can be, there are many ways to get paid as an artist, as a musician, as whatever. Like, when I was in college, the fun fact, I got paid to sing at a Catholic church for Mass every Sunday. I'm not Catholic. It was my first time going to Mass in my life, I was getting paid. Thank you, Jesus. But no, I'm interested to learn more about this. Like, what does actress mean? You're living in Utah.

You're a Utah native and a practicing Mormon. Like, are you in like LDS church promotional videos? Is that your acting resume? I'm curious. I would love to know. Interesting. We'll see. And then Whitney's friend, Maly workman, M-E-I-L-I.

I think it's M-E-L-I-I. It could be Miley or Miley or, I don't know. We'll find out. She has her hands full as a model with four young children and husband at home. Originally from California, Maley was raised LDS and moved to Utah to be more involved in the church, but ultimately decided that the faith was not for her. Interesting. I do like that we are, we're maintaining the kind of push and pull relationship that this show has with faith and with religion

and with the Mormon church specifically, having our two new friends of be both a current practicing Mormon who I would assume has some kind of Mormon 2.0 type of lifestyle as an actress and an accolated singer. I imagine that you're having to take some liberties. And then Maley, who seemingly was really into the church, but then now is very out of the church. Interesting things. I'm curious to see what these two will bring to the fold. And of course, our new housewife Bronwyn, I'm excited to see her. But this is, okay, there's one thing with the trailer that I want to talk about. And this is actually something that happens before the trailer, because when you press play on this trailer, it is three minutes long. But the first 30 seconds of that are like a choppy little

promotional video of the cast from their photo shoot being like, I don't think you're ready. Get ready. Because this season's trailer starts in five, four, three, two, one. Get ready for the trailer. And I don't really. Maybe this is something that's. like, I don't know if it's for the YouTube algorithm or they just want to like show off that they are able to film stuff with these women. But I'm like, why do we need a 30 second intro to the trailer that is promoting the season? Like, just press play. I don't need you to tell me that the trailer is coming because I pretty objectively have sought out the trailer and pressed play on it. That's just a little. Like, am I being nitpicky? Do you feel the same? The biggest thing that I am looking forward to,

season is whatever is happening between Meredith Marks and Mary Cosby. Because for a long time, going back to when Mary left the show for a season and Meredith was kind of the only person in the cast that seemed to still have any sort of relationship with her and then Mary coming back last season as a friend of, it seemed like Mary was only really friends with Meredith out of everybody in the cast. And in this trailer, it is clear that something has shifted. because they are no longer on good terms. We see this preview of, I think they're at Mary's house. There's this lunch or something where they're all dressed like Breakfast to Tiffany's vibes.

And this means, so you know, in Breakfast to Tiffany's, Audrey Hepburn has those like super, super short little bangs that kind of like sit right on her forehead with the updo, with the jewels and everything. So Meredith Marks has recreated this hairstyle, but because Meredith Marks does not have bangs, she has like swooped some of the ends of her ponytail around to the front of her forehead. So there is like this gelled down little fringe of ponytail ending kind of askew on her forehead. The effect, look, I love that she's going for the theme. I love that she got creative with her hair.

But I'm like, why does it look like you have like little pieces of hair just like glued down to your forehead? But anyway, at this lunch, Mary and Meredith are going at it, and Mary calls Meredith a sneaky little, snarky little something. And I just think this is a brilliant, brilliant thing to call somebody. Because it's like so vague, but also so, like, it has like a little, like, it's kind of like a sensual, like a little bit of like a, has a rhythmic quality to it. the sneaky little, snarky little something. Like it's, it's like the alliteration of the S's and the L's and the repetitive. Sneaky little, snarky little something.

Like, I feel like I mean, like, when I had to take music theory in college, we would do like rhythmic dictations and you would have these little like, mnemonic devices that you would use to mark the different things. Like it was like, hamburger, burger king, table, table. And that was like, eighth note. Eighth note, quarter note. And I feel like sneaky little, snarky little something. Feels like something that my music theory professor would come up with.

But I just, and then Meredith is like, hi, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And Mary's like, get out of my house. And I just like, seeing Meredith activated and seeing Mary activated, Mary as a full-time housewife is something that is very intriguing to me this season. because going back a few seasons ago, she skipped the reunion. She was seemingly very out on this show. And then she came back. She was a friend of.

She dipped her toes back in. But she has always seemed, especially since she came back, to have this kind of like love, hate but mostly hate relationship with doing this show, like kind of a disdain for the whole idea of it and for like most of the women in the cast. like Whitney, little girl, Barla, or she just like doesn't, she doesn't seem to really like enjoy the time that she spends with these people.

And so the fact that she has agreed and that they have seen enough to bring her back full time, it makes me think that we're gonna get kind of a different vibe from Mary this season, but that might be me wishful thinking or reading into something that isn't actually there. But I don't know.

I'm excited to see Mary this season, even though I think Mary's kind of a terrible person, but that's put a pin in that for another day. There's a little sneak peek that looks like Angie is kind of talking shit about Lisa's parenting. This is something that really piques my interest because I feel like that is something that is pretty like taboo normally that Angie's telling Heather in the trailer. She's like, well, I don't, yeah, I love my daughter. And I don't let her stay up until 2 a.m. gaming.

And then the next clip you see is Heather talking to Lisa. And Lisa's like, she's going to cover my parenting. I'm a great fucking mom. Like that to me, I'm like, oh, if that's what they're, and then they're yelling at each other across a table that I'm excited for. There's a clip of Lisa Barlow and Justin yelling at each other. That is like what's going on. There's also this lunch that looks like they all are dressed up as Lisa Barlow, which I think

when housewives dress up as other housewives, like last season on OC when they had that party where they each had to dress up as like somebody else in the cast, it just, oh, it scratches a great itch. It really, it makes me happy. And so I've reservation for eight Lisa Barlow's. And then everybody's like, I love that. I love that. I love that.

But then when they're yelling at the table and Lisa's yelling at Whitney and she goes, she goes, take that wig off. It's like you're not worthy of being a fake Lisa Barlow even. I just think that Salt Lake looks great this season. And I don't know if there's going to be something that kind of like, quote unquote, lives up to the reality Vante's finale situation of last year. year. But I think before this season starts, and I'm sure we'll talk more about it, I think it's important to kind of like level set where the expectations should be and that like not every

season of Housewives needs to have something that is like historic and mind blowing and like absolutely unbelievable to be like a really solid entertaining season. And I think that sometimes, you know, in the week to week, obviously I spend so much time talking about this stuff and thinking about it and as do all of you. I mean, you guys are so smart and have so many great opinions on things and some bad ones too, but I'll let those slide, that it's like, you have to kind of like step back a little bit and be like, okay, like, I'm still enjoying this. It's still fun. There's still enough to talk about. And I think that Salt Lake, they're going to give us something good, even if it's, I don't know, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I'm excited for it.

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I, on the other hand, though, I know I was just saying that these shows, you know, they're doing their best in XYZ. Guys, this episode of Dubai was so boring. I was watching it and I like, you know, I was watching it at the end of the day on Tuesday. You know, like the last kind of thing of my workday was like, okay, I'm going to watch Dubai. I'm going to take my notes that way Wednesday morning when I go to record. I, you know, I'm not scrambling to get my thoughts together or anything.

And I realized that I was like 30 minutes into the episode and I was like waiting for it to get good or to like pick up the pace. coming back from Bali this episode, I talked about this on last week's recap that I expected the Bali trip to feel a lot more kind of earth-shattering than it was. I expected the shifts in the group to feel kind of past the point of no return

after the trip to Bali. And instead, Lisa and Ayan kind of made up on the trip to Bali. And then the only real conflict that came up this episode, was that Caroline Stanbury now felt like she needed to kind of fix things with Lisa and also kind of with Ayan so that then the three of them could be back on the same page. And Stanbury felt like she didn't want to be the reason that Lisa and Ion's friendship

was falling apart, which, you know, makes sense. But so we see her patching things up. That ends up kind of working out. And then there's just kind of like no, there's no real tension this. episode, there's no real, it doesn't feel like things are kind of escalating. And I expected things to escalate a little more toward the end of the season. And I'm sure that there's more that's going to be happening. Obviously, you know, like knowing where the cast is right now, there's like clearly some bigger rift that has formed between Ayan and Lisa. I mean, when Lisa was on the show a

couple weeks ago talking about it, it really, you know, it's from a deep place for her. And if you haven't listened to that episode. I do think it was a really interesting conversation. I think like two or three weeks ago I talked to Lisa. So go back and listen to that. But this episode, I mean, Ayan is still frustrated that Lisa said she doesn't trust her. Lisa's like, I don't forget, but I'm okay to forgive, you know, yada, yada, yada, we're fine. Ayan feels a little played by Stanbury. It's a whole thing. But like, at the end of the day, nobody's that upset. Meanwhile, Sarah, we have an update on Sarah's dating situation because she meets with Saba, our friend of this season, and Nina Ali, who was on the show last season, and we hadn't seen her yet this season.

And I didn't realize she was going to make a guest appearance. And now I realized why I didn't know that, because she shows up and I just felt absolutely nothing. There are some former housewives where when they are even, if they're showing up for one five-minute scene, it's going to be in the trailer for the season. It's going to be teased weeks in advance. it's going to be like, oh my God, Alexis Bellino is coming back. You know, Alexis Blino was like on the show a couple seasons ago. Or like, Fadra is going to be in Dubai. Huge deal. Nina Ali meeting with Sarah and Sava.

I'm like, okay, okay. Sounds good. Cool. Nice to see you. I mean, Nina, lovely woman. Former guest on the podcast. Go find that one from two years ago or maybe don't. I don't remember what we talked about.

But Sarah has, she's come to sort of a. a turning point in her relationship with Hakein, this German guy who didn't want her to do the podcast that's paying her $50,000. Again, I need to know what podcast that is so I can get myself on it. But basically as like collateral for him asking her to cancel this thing, she's like, okay, so if you cared that much about me, then you can cancel this one photo shoot that you're doing. And he wouldn't do it. Okay.

At this point, like you guys are, you're fucking grownups. Like, if this relationship isn't working for you, like, why are we doing like a pit for tat. I cancel my gig, so you cancel your gig. Like, break up with the man. He lives in Germany. What are you getting out of this? At this point, this isn't the guy for you. It's not going to be true love. You're not going to get married. Just like cut the ties. I think, I think Sarah is one of those, like, she's so focused on like spirituality and mindfulness and crystals and taro and all this stuff that it's like, just dump him. Just end it. It's, it's done. that's enough.

Later in the episode, Sarah brings up this thing of like the nanny who was turning off the cameras in her house and like bringing guys in. And then the guy was like asking to see a picture of her kid. Like, very creepy, very weird. I mean, like, he's certainly weird. I didn't really, it didn't really like give us that much

in terms of like a housewife storyline. It kind of was just like, this story is crazy. I think I need to fire my nanny. And it's like, okay, again. You should do that. It sounds like a good plan. It was nice to see Ayan meeting with Huda Katan. Like that's actually major, like, Huda Beauty is like a major, major company.

It is kind of funny, though, to watch them have this conversation about Ayan Beauty, which is, you know, coming up to be launched. And, like, the way they speak about it just feels kind of fake. And this isn't like an accusation. I'm not saying that Ayan Beauty is, like, fake or a front or, like, you know, just for a storyline or anything. But just like the way that they are having this conversation on camera feels so disconnected from reality where it's like, oh, like, where's your packaging? And she's like, all in the U.S. She's like, you should try and get it in Italy. Italy's great. And she's like,

okay, okay. Oh, like, where are you selling? Oh, online. Oh, you should try and get it in a store. Oh, yeah, we're trying. Oh, get it in Sephora. Oh, we would love to. Oh, I can get you in Sephora. Oh, that sounds amazing. It's like, is this how business works? Like, you just meet somebody who is successful and then they're like, so you should do this, this, this, this and this. And I'm just going to take care of it for you. Don't do email. I don't do email. Why would you do email? I don't know. I wish I had the best. Maybe the makeup industry is easier to crack than, then I realize maybe I'll start a makeup line. Mention it all beauty. I would have fun like naming the shades. Like if we were doing like an eyeshadow palette, I would have a fun time naming them,

but I don't really care. I don't, I wouldn't want to do anything else. I definitely wouldn't want to do email. I'm like, Huda in that way. Stanbury and Lisa, like I said, they have their little meeting. Lisa says that things were going well in Bali until Stanbury threw Ayon under the bus, and then it makes a think. That wasn't her attention. It is, I did like Lisa opening up

and saying, bringing up that she was really hurt by the comment that Caroline made in the past about like a joke about her being an escort and like how she met her husband. Because Lisa kind of brings up that this is, there's this stereotype of specifically black women in Dubai and like how they get their money and how they meet their men and like what they do for work and that implying that or joking that she was an escort really is something that can like be reputationally damaging because unfortunately due to stereotypes like somebody might not think that's a joke.

Somebody might believe that and then treat her differently because of it. I think that that is something like on this show, this cast is so. diverse and comes from so many different backgrounds that I almost wish they leaned a little more into kind of how those differences and how those backgrounds kind of manifest within the group. Because I think sometimes there is this kind of like, just like glossy sheen that's put over all of it that's like, we're all rich ladies living fabulous lives in this playground of Dubai. And we all know billionaires. And we're all playing polo.

and we're all going on yachts. And it's like, that's great. And I think that's like a key part, obviously, of like the Real Housewives of Dubai. But I think that the show is better and more interesting when you can also peel back those layers and talk about how maybe, you know, even though they're all these like, you know,

fabulous, you know, privileged women who live in Dubai, like there are different realities of being a black woman or for Sarah, like being an Emirati. Like, they have a lot of differences between them. And I think that that is something that, like, obviously you don't want it to be the only thing you're talking about. But I think I like when we acknowledge it. And I like when we can have sort of tougher conversations around it. And I think that that's something like, if this show gets more seasons, I would love for them to be able to kind of like strip those layers back and talk about that.

I think Ayan has done a great job of that talking about her background and where she comes from and her story with FGM. Like, I think that that is something that makes the show, like, richer in the sense of just like, more dynamics at play, more conversations to be had. And that, that I think they should, they should focus on a little bit more. But then we have this polo day that Caroline is planning. And I,

okay, when they say we're all going to polo in my mind, and maybe I am dumb, I'm willing to accept that. I thought that they were going to be playing polo. I'm picturing, like when Ayanna's rolling up in a gown, I'm like, she looks ridiculous.

She's going to ride a horse in that. And that to me is comedy. I want Ayan to be riding a horse in a gown. But they're just like sitting on a patio, eating and drinking with like dudes on horses in the background. Like they're not even really watching the polo. So this is something, perhaps I just don't know that much about polo, which is also true. I don't know that much about polo. But one thing I wanted to bring up is I've noticed this.

on housewives. And it's, it's so funny to me. When the first person who gets to the restaurant, Caroline walks in and she's like, she is greeted by the guy, the waiter, the host, whatever. And she's just like, oh yeah, like if you could just bring some, bring some things to munch on, bring some small bites for the girls, for the ladies. Does anyone order like that in a restaurant in real life? Like, do you ever just walk in and be like, just bring us some stuff to share? Bring us some things to nibble on. Because like, if I'm at a restaurant, especially a restaurant, restaurant with friends. We are analyzing that menu so closely. And I'm like, oh my God, like, the Brussels sprouts sound good, but I really want, like, the bacon wrapped prosciutto wrapped dates.

And also, like, the mac and cheese, I bet is really good. So would it be crazy if we got, like, the mac and cheese and the Brussels sprouts and the bacon wrapped dates? Or would that be too much? Or should we get the guac, I bet, is really good? Like, the last. The last. And of needing to see the menu is wild to me, that you're just going to be like, bring us a bunch, bring us some stuff to nibble on. Could never be me. But maybe that's like a me thing. I don't know.

But yeah, I mean, Polo is kind of boring again. Caroline and Talline are like seeming to be okay. But now suddenly, now that Caroline and Tallinn are fine, Caroline is like, well, actually, I knew Rafi before I even knew Talline. So my actual hurt is over that my friendship with Rafi is suffering. And so I want to have a private conversation with him. But now it's not the time in place. It's like, okay, if it's not the time in place, then like leave me out of it. But also, what?

So now you're like, you're like downplaying your relationship with Talene and saying that actually the only person you cared about was Tallinn's husband, who you do way before you met Talene. I just feel like this doesn't feel real. I believe that they have like known each other in some capacity for a long time. but I'm just kind of like, okay, okay, whatever. I don't need to see like a heart to heart with Caroline and Rafi. I don't even, every episode, I don't remember his name until they say it.

And then we end the episode with Caroline Stanbury's birthday. Sergio brings her on this yacht. There's a cake in the shape of their new house, which is ugly. The cake, not the house. I mean, the house is fine, I guess. Caroline is like, every birthday with Sadrio is so amazing. He's just getting me back in shoes and yachts and, you know, it's like a wonderland. It's like, life can never believe.

I don't, their life is just so wild to me because I'm like, okay, this man is 29. We are the same age. And he's like, baby, I want to get you out of berkin for your birthday. What can I do for your birthday? We want to go on a yacht. We want to do the thing. And it's like, you're like a former soccer player. Like the money part, I just will never understand.

But then, of course, we have. have to have the baby conversation again. You know, they're having their lovely little birthday thing. And then it's like, so baby, are you having a baby? Do you want to have a baby? So right now, if I say, are you having a baby? And she's like, um, I don't know. But then the way this ends is so strange to me because we have been talking about this

all season. And she finally is like, okay, Sergio, do you want a baby? Like, is it a deal breaker or not? And he just says, I want a baby. And she says, that's the first time you've said that. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. That's the first time you said that. This is episode 11.

I feel like he said it 11 episodes in a row. Like, it's obviously Sergio wants a baby. She's the one saying, like, if I don't have a baby with you, someday you're going to leave me. And he's like, so he'd win a baby. It's like, yeah, we know. That is like your main storyline of the season. I just feel like I'm going crazy here. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how many episodes of Dubai we have left this season. It must only be like two or three, but hopefully we get some more, you know, momentum in some of these friendship storylines. Because right now it just feels a little stagnant. I mean, other than Sergio saying for the first time that he wants a baby, I don't really feel like we got any big reveals in this episode. And obviously I'm being sarcastic because I don't think that was even much of a surprise. But, you know, hopefully things will, hopefully things will pick up some steam. And I do think they'll probably have a good reunion because,

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