Mention It All - Schwartz & Sandy’s Business School 101 Ft. Danny Murphy (VPR)

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

On today’s episode, Danny Murphy returns to the podcast with much to discuss. First, Dylan recaps his big meeting with Ramona Singer and Jenn Fessler, and Danny evaluates Jenn’s early friend-of performance. They also discuss some Miami developments, and Michael Darby’s lawsuit against Candiace. Later, they pivot to Vanderpump Rules, where everyone is embracing the delicious messiness, and we’re all winning again. Check out our latest promo codes here: https://betches.com/promos Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents Ha ha laugh funny Mention It All A Bravo by Betches podcast We don't say that But now we said it With me Dylan Hafer Heyfer

Hey everyone Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer And today I am happy to be joined Once again by a favorite guest of mine Always Danny

Danny Hi Dylan Always a magical Bravo moment with you Well I know You had a magical moment last night. Well, I got a bone to pick with you, Danny. If I'm, if I'm perfectly honest, we were supposed.

It is Thursday morning right now. Wednesday evening, we were supposed to be dancing the night away together at the launch party of one, Avery Singer's new company. It's called Batch Boss. It's a luxury bachelor and Bachelorette Party planning service. Congrats to Avery. Great event. But Danny, you told me you were going to be there.

And then I get a text like an hour before. It's like, oh, I'm so tired. I'm sick. Here, and any person that listens to this that lives in the city of Holboken will understand. Oh, there's no water, right? Yeah. It's now back. So I literally, I got a call from my building at like,

4 p.m. yesterday. Like, you might have water back. If you do, you need to run your pipes for 15 minutes to make sure it like regulates. I was like, I'm at an I'm not home right now. And they're like, oh, okay, well, then you might not have it. And I was like, what is this like riddle

that I need to do to get to water? I still can't drink it, but now I have it back. So I was also running on, like I showered, but not with, like I had a, at a gym that I joined in a crisis. I'm picturing you doing like a little like bird bath with a bottle of Desani, just like splish splash.

A, how dare you, Evian? But B, that was my Tuesday morning. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. And I was like, I can't batch boss it up when I'm not smelling or looking my best. That's true. I was up close and personal with Ramona, who I had never met before. and I would not have been comfortable doing that

if I hadn't showered yesterday. Because she would say I smelled. She would say that to my face. What's that? What's that? I just don't get it. So here's the rundown. Okay, please help me.

This event. I'm looking at a photo right now so I don't miss anyone. They did like a whole Bravo kind of group photo because it was an eclectic bunch, you might say. Of course, Avery was there. Love. Ramona and Mario.

Oh, Mario. Oh, I guess because they support the daughter. I don't know why. It had not occurred to me that Mario even might be there. And then the second I saw him, I'm like, oh, duh, yeah. Like, did they get flirty vibes? Like, no. They weren't really around each other except when they were taking the photo.

And I will say, first of all, Mario looks like a fucking snack, as always. Yeah. But also, seeing them next to each other in a photo is so powerful. Mm-hmm. Like, I won't get into it. But then we had Kyle and Amanda were there. Because I saw, wasn't Drake? Loverboy was helping.

There was, yeah, one of the signature cocktails had Loverboy in it. And then there was some Lover Boy in the gift bags as well. Good gift bag. Cute. And then, let's see, Derrinda was there. Loved seeing her. It's been a while. She was wearing a very, a very glittery, silver, short mini-jjjjjointed.

dress and then thigh-high, like PVC leather boots. I'm fucking in love. That is when I am, if global warming lets me be in my 50s, best believe I'm in that. I'm in glitter and thigh-hye. I could see that for you. Yeah. Really?

Okay. Continuing with the list, Bershon Shaw was there. I've not seen Bershahn in a minute. Yeah. She and Ramona always hit it off, I guess. guess. I guess so. And then and then rounding out the group, Jen Fessler, our new Real Housewives of New Jersey friend of. What? Looking great. She was in a, you know, a blue pants suit with a long ponytail. It was the first time I had met her. I did see her at your live show in December,

but I didn't get a chance to meet her. Lovely. She, I was like, I was like, how's it going? How's your season going so far? She's like, it's insane. I'm like. She, she, does seem like she is just that 24-7. Like, because I like her energy on the show, I think is just her energy, which is really delightful. Yeah. It's, no, it's a, Jen Fessler, I feel like is, she's such an interesting character. And I'm sure she will get into kind of some of the drama a little more. But I just, she's somebody that I, I could watch for hours.

Yes. Eating the mozzarella. You know, ordering pizza. Ordering pizza. She's like, no, we cannot share. don't even try it. I respect that because I don't always love when people are like, oh, well, I'll get this and then we'll share it.

I'm like, no, I'm ordering what I want to eat. And Jen is also doing friend of right. She's like, I'm here. I'm like to have a nice dinner to go to some parties, see what happens, and party it up. Meanwhile, our girl Jackie is friend of foeing and the friend of that we love to see of fighting with people. I, Jen Fessler gives me a little bit of Barbara Kay vibes. Oh, oh. It's just in the sense that she's like a little off kilter in a way that is really entertaining to watch.

Like she's not, she's a little quirky. But I think what Jen Fessler has going for her is that she's on this show as Margaret's friend. She and Margaret are not going to have some big falling out this season. They're still, she's doing, she's keeping it, you know, she's keeping it together. So if she wants to stay on the show, there's going to be potential. for that, whereas Barbara Kay came on as Luann's friend, and by the end of the season, you know, that wasn't going so well. Or even by like episode three, I feel like Luann was like, who's Barbara? What?

Right. It's kind of like the Mia and Jacqueline of it all where it's like, you come on the show with someone's best friend and then immediately it's like we hate each other. It's so sad and crazy to see. But that's why I do love that Jen is kind of proven that she's like, no, Margaret's my friend. I'm not going to shit talk her on the phone. But I do love, I was visualizing Jennifer in her car home from the Moots party like boop boop sorry about your nose job boop so I'm looking for a therapist she I said it on my episode yesterday with Jordana she was working the phones this week oh I reminded me when I was an intern at the new york city parks and rec department where I just had to always had to I was answering all the complaints

and I was like you got parks you got parks oh my god you got parks I know did you like handling the complaints or just like answering the phone? In full disclosure, if you called them in the summer of 2013, I did not know how to transfer phone calls all the time properly. So I'd be like, oh, just one second and I would just hang up. So are you a VEP watcher? Yes. It reminds me of there's a moment when Sue is like, I can't say no to you again.

So I'm just gonna. And then she like slowly hangs up the phone. Oh, I'm like transferring your call right now. I'm like, oh, Verizon, the lines went out. I definitely had, I did that in college. I worked at like the Info Center desk and I was not real good with the phone either. And there were definitely some times where I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. And I would just transfer them to like one of the like generic extensions if I didn't know who they actually needed to talk to.

I mean, like, I'll send this to like admissions. I don't know. They can help you. They'll do something. or send an email, you know, why are you, why are you calling? Right. The phone, Google. Google is free.

Yes. Oh, my God. I did, speaking of friend of status, uh, on the Miami finale, Adriana and Marisol get their little title cards at the end of the episode of like their updates. I was, I was surprised. I don't know if that's happened before for friends. I don't, did Kiki get one or no? I don't think so.

I guess because Kiki's no drama just vibe. Like she's just like, she's just. that's the thing. Like Kiki to me has had a great season in terms of establishing herself as a fun presence on the show more than last year. But they still have not really allowed her to crack into the storyline of it. Yeah. I almost feel like like Kiki and Jen Fessel are doing similar things. They're just like in scenes and you're laughing at them. But I'm like, oh, I don't know. And like, when Kiki has confessionals about like, oh, I relate to this because I'm like, oh, you have, I'm like, why don't, I want to see more of your life.

Yeah, Kiki has, I think, a very interesting personal story. I know our mutual friend Gibson Johns has spent more time talking to Kiki and is always like, oh yeah, she's fascinating. Like, she has such an interesting life. If, you know, if she's ever, if they ever let her show it on the show, she would bring a lot to the table. But, you know, maybe next season. I don't think anybody's getting fired from Miami. No.

Oh, I love everyone being like, this is what I'm like, no one's leaving this show. Like, this cast is so, so good. And I feel that almost was probably why maybe Kiki didn't get to showmark because, like, everyone had so much stuff going on. But I say just add her, make all these friends of full times and add so much more chaos to the mix. I agree. I mean, that's the thing, like, there are these kind of unwritten rules of, like, how many people you can have on a cast or, like, who gets to be full time? Who's a friend of? Who gets to show what?

And I feel like Miami, the last two seasons, has really kind of broken. that mold a little bit of how involved a friend of is supposed to be, how they craft the storylines. It's like, okay, yeah, maybe we're not seeing as many, like, solo scenes at home of Adriana and Marisol, but in terms of the structure of the narrative arc, there's no sense of, like, well, we're not going to feature Marisol very much because, you know. She's on Ultimate Girl's Trip. Yeah. Oh, that Girl's Trip trailer. I'm excited. I am really excited because it's some of my favorite Housewives ladies altogether. Like this one in particular, some of my faves getting into some mess together.

I feel like people, for whatever reason, maybe it's just because there was no premiere date or trailer or anything for a long time. But people kind of slept on this girls' trip group. I know. Oh, they're doing the one in Morocco. Oh, I forgot that they already filmed the one in Thailand. And I'm like, no, I think this season is going to be good. I think because it's like you have Giselle, Portia, and Alexa, like, you have so many powerhouses that are going to be able to, like, cause some fun drama.

And I love that immediately getting into it, Giselle's like, so what happened with the black eye? Candice is acting Portia about her relationship. Leah's in the hospital. I mean, it has some great, some great moments. I know. I know we don't feel great about Brandy Glanville right now for good reasons. But one of the things I appreciated on her. girl's trip season at the Berkshires was that she had clearly done enough research on the people

that were coming on the trip with her to know kind of what were the interesting things from their past to bring up what the situations were. And I feel like Jazele is bringing that same energy in the trailer where it's like she knows for each given person in that group kind of what the pain point is going to be. And what is she's like the audience watching at home. It's like we haven't seen Porsche in a couple of years. I want to know what's happening with that. We haven't, you know, Whitney and Heather, question mark, question mark. We know they're still not getting along. What's the update with that? Like, there are numerous things where you kind of need somebody in the group to be informed enough to direct the conversation. And I have confidence

in Giselle. Oh, yeah. And I, it is interesting because when me and Evan chatted with her when she was on virtual reality a little bit ago, we asked her just like lightly about Ultimate Girls trip. And she said she's in a group chat with point. Portia, Alexia, and Marisol. So that might be like a core four. And I think Leah and Candice are friends because they like TikTok together from time to time. Yes. So I don't know if Whitney and Heather just made no friends or like what's happening there.

But I feel like there are teams formed quickly. I feel like if I went on a girls trip, I have a feeling I would be like good with everyone, but not super close with anyone. So I feel like maybe that's like a Whitney and Heather kind of. kind of vibe where it's like they're like kikiing with everyone in a general way but like not in the group chat. Everybody's like, do you guys want to come to Salt Lake? Everyone's like, we're okay. Like that is such a lovely invitation.

I will think about it. Miami, sure. Miami's hot, hot. Do, no, do, do, da, can I say? I like, at first I was like, what is this song? Now I'm upset. It is funny how multiple times throughout the season, throughout doing press at BravoCon, even, these women in the group will talk so much about how much they like Adriana's new song. Not liking Adriana, but her new song, yes.

In the finale, Alexia literally at the table is like, you know I don't fuck with you, but that song is good. She's like, I hate you. I like the song. I hate you. The song is catchy. It's like you can't deny it. It's undeniable. You cannot.

It is. It's made. I'm like, okay, Adriana, your next, next season, I expect some more songs from you. Well,

in the finale, she does have a little, uh, studio meeting slash session with Emilio Estefan. Oh, okay. And she's like, she literally starts getting tearyied in her confessional because she's like,

it means so much that me, this little girl who came from, Brazil is meeting with this Titan of Latin music. This is my American dream. And I mean, I love this for Adriana. I don't, it's funny because I have,

I was not aware until right now that she has this dream of a real music career. So, I, because I thought, I thought she was releasing songs kind of like usually like housewives release songs. Because like Candice is doing an, like, she released

an album, she released it deluxe. Candice is doing a music career. Right. I didn't know Adriana's plan. I didn't know that was Adriana's plan. Exactly. There's, that's the thing. It's like I am such a lover of housewives music as a genre.

But there's a big difference between a Kim Zolziak, a Countess Luann, a Melissa Gorga, who put out, you know, a few singles. And just why? Maybe it's a storyline. Maybe they do a couple performances. But it kind of, it is what it is. And then you have a Candice. Or, you know, even in Erica is, you know, she's done music for real. And, you know, Adriana, coming.

She's going to get Grammy nominated before Candice. Just watch. Oh, my. Well, she's not going to get sued by Michael Darby before Candice because did you see that? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Candice getting sued by Michael Darby for, he wants $2 million in damages. He's claiming defamation because on this season, Candice made a comment about him paying

for oral sex from a man. It's also, because I feel like, A, Michael, you should be giving $2 million to Ashley Darby. B, do you really want to, like, bring things to light? Because that's what this would, like, if you bring this to a trial or anything like that, there's got to be a lot of people talking, a lot of things that get exposed. Right. I mean, to me, the big question mark, when somebody sues for defamation, like, like that is like it has to be false.

Like there has to be a lie at the center of the story. And, you know, I personally have no knowledge of whether this story is true or not. No. But if there is any truth to it or if there are truth to any similar stories about Michael Darby, like there is this idea, I think when I read about this lawsuit, Michael Darby is still adamantly denying that he is ever sleeping with men or is ever doing anything related to sleeping with men. So there's, it's not to me like this lawsuit. It's about the one specific thing that Candace said on the show.

But it also to me is still like a public statement of like just for the record, I still am not gay. Yeah. And also because I was reading about that. And it's not defamation of character to call somebody a different sexuality than what they are, apparently. Yeah, interesting. So I don't really know what Michael Darby's legal plan is for this. I don't know. Everybody goes to stream drive back a few times so Candice can get a nickel or two.

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That's why you rack. Okay, the main event we need to talk about is Vanderpump Rules. I, okay, Danny, I have had the most interesting experience over the last few weeks since the season started. Because last year on the podcast, I was talking about Vanderpumpurals most weeks.

And when I tell you, it was tough to find people who were even keeping up with the season to come on and recap it. I wasn't. I wasn't watching. A lot of people were like, oh, I'm sort of watching, but I'm like five episodes behind. And I'm like, great. I need you to be ready by 11 a.m. on Thursday to talk about the episode from the night before. So, you know, I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, I hope it's good again this year, but, you know, who I don't know who's watching. I don't know if it's like a priority.

There's been so many new shows happening lately. We've had guests coming on the podcast. We are, you know, booked and busy and, you know, blessed. Oh, very much. The LA circuit. But, you know, we've had great guests recently. There's been a, you know, a scheduling jam almost on mention at all. And I start getting DMs.

Where are the Vanderpump recaps? Are you ever going to talk about Vanderpump rules? And I'm like, oh my God. Yeah. Like, first of all, it's not about the plus. First of all, yes, I'm watching this season. I'm enjoying this season. And second of all, I would love to recap it because it's good.

Yeah, it's good. There's a lot to talk about. But, you know, we've been busy. But I'm glad that with you today, we get to talk about Vanderpump Rules as And also did you see Andy Cohen's tweet this morning? Yes. Feel like all is right with the world when Pump Rules is thriving and it is. It is.

It really is. Just like we pick up this episode still at Tom Sandoval's most extras show and Agora Hills. Good for him. Good for him. But just the amount of the amount of different. things that are developing at this Tom Sandoval show, I feel like it's giving us more storyline and drama from this one event than we've had in the past two years on Vanderpump Rules.

Oh, so many. Everybody is fighting with everybody. And it's also old school fighting where they're holding vodka sodas and plastic cups being like, well, you said this about me and now I hate you. Or someone's crying in a corner. People are storming off. It's what we're going to these people for. Sheena and Katie are hurling insults back and forth, calling each other trolls. That's delicious to me. And also when Sheena was like, you can call me like a, you can call me all these things. What troll is too far?

I don't know why that word hit a nerve for her. She was like Margaret Joseph's hit an arm. You can say I'm a bitch. You can say I'm unkind. You can say I've been a bad friend. But don't call me a troll. But I was like, oh, I didn't know. Okay.

You know, we have Sheena then venting to Raquel about how Katie has spent the last decade, basically making her look like shit on TV. We have Raquel then pulling Ali aside to make sure she's on the same page about how James fucked Lala like four years ago. And Ali is like, yeah, I did know that. And also it's, it's, yeah, he told me. My world has been shaken. Thank you. Yeah. This Allie girl has given me, she's just giving me energies.

Alie? Or lack thereof. Look, James is all in on this relationship with Ali. Teddy Malencamp. He's all in with Teddy Mellencamp on Allie Louber. And Allie seems like a great girl. Like, she seems, she's cute. Gorgeous gowns.

Fun. I, you know, we don't know her yet. But it does feel like, I don't know. It's tough. I was thinking about this. when she sat down with Raquel, that the fact that Ali clearly has not been around this group enough to really have a relationship with anyone but James makes it tough because now that she is on the show this season, she can't just only, if they want her to be a part of the group,

she can't only film these scenes with James. But Katie doesn't know her. Sheena doesn't know her. the Tom's don't know her None of them are looking like they're getting Like they're like Oriana The way to get to know her Right She's not really being brought into the group

I don't think You know Lala's barely in this episode I don't think anybody really is Looking to like Pull Ali into the fold And so it leaves us with these weird scenes Between her and Raquel Whereas like the scene with them

In the premiere That made sense Raquel needs to get stuff off her chest Get on the same page This scene in this episode, it's like, why are they talking about this? And I, you know, justice for Charlie, Charlie telling Raquel, I mean, I don't think that's like your bit, your issue to make like to make Allie aware that James cheated on you once, maybe once, four years ago. Like, I get why Raquel feels like she has like, you know, the red flag. flag brigade for James. But like, you know, it's a new relationship. And it's interesting you brought

up the Charlie conversation because I chat at with Sheen and Raquel yesterday. And when I was like, oh, that was a really great talk. Like Charlie was kind of like giving you like some real talk, voice of reasons. And they were like, that was judgment through and through. And I was like, oh. Okay. Guessing to guess not. I love, I, I, but I like to your point is like, why don't get involved with all this like BS that just is going to like stress you out more. then you have to be stressed out. Yeah, I do get the sense that Charlie has sort of floated away from the group this season. She's not on the show as much.

It doesn't seem like people are really close with her the way they maybe were a year or two ago, which, you know, I like Charlie, but at the same time, I don't think she's a vital part of this cast. She's vital to, sir, it feels like her and Peter are keeping the lights on there. Backbones of sir. Yeah, she's like, guys, I don't have time to film a fight at Tom, say, Vindon's band. Table eight needs entrees. Okay.

Yeah. She's like, can you, she's like, can you please make me a strawberry? Like, we did the sugar rim. Cut to her, though,

becoming like head manager of SIRS in like four years tops. I give it. Charlie's empire could be growing. Okay, but that's depressing. I know. You're saying that like being

manager of Sir is like winning an Oscar. And I'm like, some circles. She's like, it came true. Wow. Yeah. Like, Peter stuck around for so long, so long, put in all the hours that he finally got to have a drunk makeout with Brickell. Good for him. The Me Too movement, darling. What?

Lisa. It's not a good look. You don't want to be the dump pee. You want to be the dump. You want to be the dump. Oh, my God. Lisa Vanderpom knows. I was, I'm always kind of like, what is she going to do this season with these kids? And I'm like, oh, she delivers. Lisa Vanderpump is putting in work this season because on this episode, we get, honestly, she has like tough love conversations with James and with both of the Tom's. And all three of those men need to hear it.

Mm-hmm. I get so stressed hearing any ounce of conversation about how the Tom spend their money. because I'm just like, do you guys not have like an accountant or like a financial advisor that is giving you any guidance or anything like that? The fact that they're like just hemorrhaging so much cash into this and Lisa's like, why didn't you guys come? Like, why are you guys trying to do something without me? Well, it's not going to work.

The situation with this guy, Greg, seems so questionable to me. Me, somebody who knows absolutely zero about business. I say all the time in this podcast, when anybody's talking about like the ins and out, of buying a house or doing business or, you know, divorce or legal shit. I know nothing. I'm Wendy with her notebook when Peter's telling her about, like, opening a lounge. I'm like, okay, what? Yeah.

It's like Teresa making the phone call to Joe, want to make peace. But that's my understanding of business. But to hear that all of this stuff is in Greg's name, it's his lease, it's, you know, whatever. But Tom and Tom are the ones spending all of the money for the rent, for the X, Y, Z. Tom Sandoval's mom and stepdad put in $250,000 for this restaurant. That, to me, as a fucking idiot in business, sounds wrong. And also because especially because I feel like when Greg is the restaurant guy, so it's like, and the Tom, Tom's are kind of like, the fun idea is like, oh, we, like, we're kind of like the faces of it.

But now they're the pockets of it. I'm just like, this is a really, really bad move, especially because it's like, oh, like, Schwart or Sandova. I'm like, no, don't mess up Ariana's money because I love her. Right. Like the, the Tom Tom, arrangement, people, I feel like kind of give them shit sometimes for having such little ownership stake in Tom Tom Tom.

But that is the best arrangement possible because they have, I am sure, made back their initial investments and then some, and they get to have their fucking names on a bar in like the main strip of WeHo that people line up like it's a fucking meet and greet seven days a week. Swartz and Sandy's is not the same. It's not going to be the same. I mean, it has,

I'm not saying it can't be successful, whatever, that I don't have a crystal ball, but like it's not the same proposition as like we're opening a bar next door to Lisa Vanderpump's other two bars that we're barely putting money into. Exactly. Because also, and when people gave them shit for that, Angela Yee said on a financial podcast, I half listened to once that you'd rather have like 20% in on something that you know will be successful than own 100% of a failure.

And I think that's what they're messing up with. Because also when I Google image or Google Maps, Schwartz and Sandy, yeah, I mean, it's like in the same vicinity in the sense it's in Los Angeles. but it's not like, because like when you go to, like, when a Vanderpump fan goes to do like a Vanderpump bar crawl. Right. And it's, you could literally crawl. Right.

Like, I've also done the Google map because when they say it's in like, what is it? Like hidden village or some. It's like Valley or yeah, no, hidden. I think, yeah. Hidden Valley Ranch. I'm like, whatever. I'm like, we're not a craving ranch. Okay.

So when I Googled it, what became clear was the neighborhood that they say it's in is clearly like a made up real estate term that probably has something to do with gentrification. I don't know, but I put money on that. Whatever. But like, it's in Hollywood, but not like it's in a completely different area of Los Angeles than Tom Tom, Sir, Pump. Oh, yeah. So like, if I was doing a night out or something, if I'm in L.A. for a long weekend.

And I have one night where I feel like I'm doing Vanderpombe. stuff. Because also not everyone you go with is going to be like, I'm not going to five fucking nights of Vanderpump. One night. When I went to LA last year, I did a whole podcast about my Vanderpump experience, but people assumed I was going to spend my whole time in L.A. I was there for like four days just like hanging out at Sir. I'm like, no, the food is not good. The drinks are not good. The atmosphere is not good. I'm not going to spend my three days in like a shitty club restaurant lounge just so I can catch a glimpse of Peter.

Wait, and it's so funny when I went to, because I did, I had a one happy hour at TomTom and I don't drink. And when I was like, I was like, I was like, oh, can I just do like a grapefruit juice and like seltzer? And the guy, the bartender was like, what does that mean? And like I had to explain to him what like a non-alcoholic beverage was. So you only go there to get fucked up or to like sit, look and see where someone

takes a fight and then bounce out because it's, not, there's no ambience or chill energy there. Yeah, best of luck to Tom and Tom. It's not looking good. They're looking good though, I have to say. They are looking good. Girl, winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes.

Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross.

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Whatever. None of those people are tourists as my day. Go on. To me, I don't see. how you don't see why Katie feels weird about this. Because, you know, Katie is not saying, you know, I don't think Katie is being that unreasonable. I think she's just saying, she's not saying you have to wear a chastity belt until I find a guy.

She's like, can you not hook up with the person that I need to see almost every day? Right. Like, not only are you all in the same friend group, quote unquote, but like you are working together. You film a TV show together. You are required to be in the same place. Katie is inviting Raquel on her divorce girls trip.

Shocked that after that reveal, she still was like, oh, you can call. I was like, wow, Katie, my jaw dropped. I was actually, for all the people who give Katie shit for being like unreasonable and like not getting over Tom or whatever in 10 days, I thought she took Raquel's admission of guilt basically super well. The fact that she didn't like X Raquel out of her life for that admission is growth, I think, to me.

I think 100%. And also because I like that she, not like, but it was very, it was growth to see that she didn't flab out and also got very emotional where she was like, yeah, this is really like my house that we were in is closing. Like I'm just like going through a lot of life stuff that is not like I don't have the time to get angry about this. I'm just very sad. Right. Like I, her response to that felt very human and from a, from a place of emotional, you know, stress rather than like any sort of vindictiveness or any sort of, you know, revenge or, you know, like there's no sense to me that she is trying to make Schwartz's life miserable or that she's trying to find issues where there aren't any. I think she was triggered by a very specific thing that Schwartz went on Sheena's podcast, and they were talking about this. And then Raquel kind of played into it. And I actually think Katie, she was very insightful when she brought up, are you actually interested in Schwartz or are you sort of being wrapped up in this thing that Sheena is sort of pushing and you're kind of getting carried away with it? little bit because she's like, I don't think Raquel actually has this kind of streak in her of being conniving and malicious or whatever.

I actually called her cotton candy. I feel. Well, also, because she did tell me, she was like, apparently, Sheena wasn't telling Raquel, do it, do it, do it. She said it like once or twice. And Raquel just was like, oh, after that, I couldn't stop thinking about it. So I think Katie will be a little surprise at how Raquel operates. Because I do.

It's also not like. Like, oh, Sheena convinced Raquel to get bangs and she got it. Going on hooking up with the guy. It's a different. It's a different operation. But I do stand by, or I think it was Ariana who said it, not this episode, but last week, which is like, why is no one mad at Schwartz ever? Yeah. And I know Katie's get a little annoyed at him.

But I'm like, because his moment, and I think you put it on the problem by Benches Instagram. Are we still filming? Look at the camera. He knows. Because he says, he basically said. She says, do you want to make out? He says, I really, really, really do. But I know I can't.

But, oh, God, I really do. Like, he does not, like, he does not say Raquel, no. Exactly. He's just like, oh, and you're such. And he's like, and he was like, you're so attractive. And I really like, and it's just like, do, da, da, da. And I'm like, oh, if there was no cameras. But you know what?

And also, it's funny, if there were no cameras filming, they would have made out then. And you know we would have had Sheena Shite, MZ, like Robin Dixon's own. She would have been vlogging that, yes, yes, yes. Oh my God. I would kill for she emz segment. It would be amazing because I feel she really has kicked it into high gear this season, Sheena, for better or for worse, for all the people. But like, she is moving some stories around her and La La La are really leading charges. Well, I respect that because last season, there was so much about her and Brock.

And it was loud and clear the way the audience responded to that. and I don't know if it was a deliberate move on Sheena's part to have Brock less involved this season. I imagine the producers were not banging down his door to sign a full-time contract. But it feels like Sheena kind of has course corrected a little bit. And it's like, nah, this will be better if I'm just kind of like stirring up the shit a little bit. I don't need to be like Brock, Brock, Brock, Brock, Brock. I feel like they were trying to last season, from the few episodes I watch. make it evolve into like a Vanderpump where it's like, oh, like, married couple, friend,

but now it's like, no, let's just keep the trash coming, guys. And they're doing it so well. And I mean, it does unfortunately help that like a divorce is going on and Lala separated and all this stuff. I did love Lala. I need to have to get better because she knows how to get a scene going. So I hope she recovers soon. But I love that she spends her sick days watching Beverly Hales outspice. Oh, my God.

With the sound on, I love that they have the same, Vanderpump and Beverly Hills have the same production company. So it's very synergistic, if you will. That's, and I also am like, Lala, please take, I hope you're taking notes because I would love in a year or two for you to be on Beverly Hills. Some may say, you know, who knows? Some may say, or maybe Tracy Tudor apparently. Maybe, you know, if people, maybe if this season goes well,

maybe we'll see Christina Kelly on a. Wait, I love that Ariana even's like, what is Christina Kelly doing here? The funniest thing, though, I don't know if you picked up on this. Katie says when she's like reintroducing Christina Kelly to us because it's been a minute. She says, we just traveled together to Rome for our friend's wedding. Oh, we know that friend. If you, uh, if you happen to miss that, our friend is one Stasi Schroeder. Our friends.

I'm shocked they didn't have like Stasi like blurt out like she watched like the grudge video or the ring video. I guess I didn't, I guess I didn't realize that Stasi was at that level where they are fully not saying her name on camera. Yeah, she is, she's just fully eliminated. Stasi who just announced she's pregnant again, Mazel Tov. That was to me like I'm not somebody who's like riding for Stasi. I don't really give a fuck. But I just have stopped thinking about it. Same.

Same, same, same. The baby thing came up on my timeline. I'm like, oh, cool. But I just was, you know, I thought that was a note worthy that it's like, okay, our friend's wedding, got it. That's what we're. Got it? Because that's the thing is like all of them are still friends with Stasi.

And so it's interesting. Oh, exactly. It's interesting to bring Christina back onto the show with no kind of mention of the fact that this was a friend group before and really still is that we're going to be missing a piece of. I like Christina. I've ordered her lip balm before. Is it good? It was good.

That was a like deep COVID purchase. I was like, you know. I have, I bought some Bravo things I think during deep. I got, I think I got a married to the mob makeup kit or a makeup bag that said like bitch on it. And I'm like, where? What am I doing? What's happening? My, uh, my Bravo purchases during quarantine times.

were Christina Kelly's lip balm and Porsche's sheets. Okay. You know, you were quarantining. You were being cozy at home. Yeah, I needed something to look forward to. Wait, and now here's my thing for you because I brought up Tracy Tudor. I think her name is I don't watch a million dollars in LA. Should I?

Is that a show you guys talk about in this? No, I have not watched it in a while. I have seen a couple people saying, though, that this season is really good and that there's more drama. like within the group than there sometimes has been. So I don't know. I like Tracy though. I think Tracy's

cool. I've interviewed her before. I like Tracy. And it's her and Josh Flagg, right? He's on that. Altman and Flagg, both. Yeah. Oh, okay.

I don't know. I don't know. But you know, that's a, you know. James and Max Vanderpump boxing together was really just my favorite little moment before we go. Wait, but that was. was funny that you were saying, Allie has no one to film with.

I feel like no one's really filming with James besides Lisa and Lala in her either. Well, yeah. Well, I don't know. I mean, James has great TV, but like, it doesn't have a best, like, friend track record. No. And I feel like everybody is kind of like, why are you drinking and why are you making all these choices again? And we don't know how to help you type of thing, which is just kind of a rough spiral. Yeah.

We're getting back to the point from a few seasons ago where he was calling Katie, like, fat in her shorts. And everybody was like, um. Okay, no, bye. Literally, yeah. Oh, God, that's gonna be, yeah. We can't go back there. I don't know. Danny, you'll have to come back here.

Yes. Oh, my God. Before too long, because it's always a pleasure. That'll be my see you next time we record. That'll be my, that'll be my, sorry. I'll put that on the calendar invite. Somebody will be looking at my calendar. They're like, cut recording.

What? And it's just, we're doing the Luantra. that T. Kyle did. Keeps up. Okay. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much, Danny. Thank you everyone for listening.

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