Mention It All - Screenshot Sniper Attack (RHONJ)

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

To kick off the week, Dylan shares a free idea for anyone with free time on their hands: Bravo-themed Inside Out fan fiction. From there, he recaps the deeply messy events leading up to Kenya Moore’s suspension from RHOA filming, and what it might mean for the future of the franchise. Later, he dives deep into this week’s RHONJ, which is an excellent episode in a season that feels like it’s teetering on the edge of disaster. Numerous group threads come together at Melissa’s housewarming, but Marge’s last-minute screenshot attack is one of the best Housewives maneuvers of all time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I'm Dylan Hafer.

Happy Monday. We made it. We've got a lot to get into today. First of all, we've got to talk about what the fuck is happening with Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'm so nervous. I don't know what's going to happen. We also have to talk about Real Housewives of New Jersey. a lot less nervous for that because I thought last night's episode was one of the best in a while,

some really, really, really inspirational housewifery going on in Franklin Lakes. And then, you know, we're just going to roll through. I did see over the weekend I saw Inside Out too. And this made me think, I need somebody, and I don't have time for this. I also don't have the creative muscles at the ready. I need somebody to write inside out fan fiction that's like about housewives. Because can you imagine? Imagine we're at Melissa Gorga's housewarming party, not to get ahead of myself.

And it's like we're seeing Jackie talk to Dolores and then Margaret is listening from across the room. And imagine you go inside their heads. And it's like Jackie's little like embarrassment thing is like popping off. And Dolores' anger is like on a hundred. and then you've got Margaret, and it's like, I don't know if that would be like envy or, you know, which emotion would be at the control panel or whatever. But I just feel like this is something. There's something here.

If you haven't seen Inside Out too, it's great. It's so fun. Anxiety. We can all relate. I mean, I think. But anyway, more to come about Jersey in a few minutes. But first, we've got to talk about this situation with Real Housewives of Atlanta, which, this new season, the sort of soft reboot season,

they're like a month into filming, things are getting going. A few weeks ago, Keny Moore is having an event at her new salon. She has a Kenymore hair care salon. And there is this situation. So reportedly, rumor has it at this party at her salon. And I'm reading from,

This is a people.com article written by Stephanie Wenger and our friend Dave Quinn. It says that at this party, Kenya unveiled explicit posters of new RHOA cast member, Brittany Eadie, performing oral sex. And this is at the grand opening of the Kenya Moore hair spa. Sorry. And it says the other individual involved in the sex act depicted on the poster is not yet clear. And Edy was not in attendance at the spa when the posters were revealed. A source tells people more unveiled the posters after Eadie. allegedly threatened her co-star using the word gun.

However, a second source close to production disputes that, saying at no time was Kenya ever threatened with a weapon, nor was there ever a weapon present during the course of production. I mean, I would hope not if you're showing up to Housewives with a, if you're like pack and heat, that's a different problem we need to solve. But this says as a result of the incident at the spa, the first source confirms to people that more has been suspended from RHOA. she won't know whether she'll return to filming until an outcome of the network's investigation is complete. This is just why.

How did we get here? What the fuck is going on? So this is something, I feel like we're seeing across a few different franchises in a few different ways. Obviously, this is not a situation that we've had exactly on another franchise. but it just feels like people are starting to lose sight of where the lines are and kind of what we do this for. And look, I don't want to sound all Carol Radsawill speaking anonymously to New York magazine or whatever.

But whatever happened to fun, whatever happened to we're just fighting about stupid shit and getting mad about who's, you know, invited to what. how good of a spot you have on the step and repeat backdrop. Oral sex posters. Get a grip. Get a life. What are we doing? Look, Kenya has been such a great housewife for such a long time.

And of course, there have been situations where she has kind of stepped up to the line, maybe, like, did a little tap dance on it. And she's given us so many moments that we are so grateful for. But like, what are you doing? Kenya last week, so this went down on June 6th and then on June 8th. Kenya tweeted, this is after things had sort of started to circulate a little bit. I would never engage in revenge porn. I have never distributed private images or footage of anyone,

nor solicited images owned by others to use to threaten or blackmail. I have always been vindicated. I can't talk about story even with people planting fake news. hashtag Sweet 16 Fire emoji. So this is before she was reportedly suspended from filming, but when people had sort of started coming into her comments and her DMs about this situation, basically being like, girl, what the fuck is going on? And this wording to me is pretty telling because she is denying very specific wording.

She's saying, I would never engage in revenge porn. I have never distributed private images. solicited images. She's not saying I didn't print out a poster of my co-star engaged in whatever and show it at the grand opening of the Keny Moore hair spa. If this was a situation that was just cooked up out of nowhere, and by the way, there is video, photo, whatever, of this situation, I'm not going to share it because it is explicit, but if you want to find it, I'm sure you can.

So we know that it happened. I think basically what Kenya is saying is that this. photo or whatever was like publicly available or was already out there on the internet. And it's just like if that's, if that's the case you're making, you've already lost the plot. You know, like that's not actually, it's like a, oh, that's, yeah, I get, I guess maybe it's not revenge porn per se or like, maybe it's not illegal, but it certainly isn't like something that seems normal to do to someone that you are a co-worker of. I think HR at pretty much any company in the world would have feelings about this.

Just a, just a hunch. But anyway, so yes, this happened on Friday. Kenya reportedly being suspended from filming until further notice, maybe until forever. And this has sort of called into question a bigger thing of like, what does this mean for this season of Real House of Siles of Atlanta? knowing that they are not probably close to done with filming, but also far enough in that cutting out a main cast member like Kenya

would undoubtedly be difficult. And by all accounts, this season was kind of being built around Kenya and Portia. Obviously, Porsche's return was, you know, a big story. But kind of other than Porsche, the vet that they have kept in the cast is Kenya. You know, they got rid of Shire. Drew, God-lover, I don't think she has like the juice to be one of the main too. Cynthia Bailey is going to be a friend of, but she is not like a Kenya replacement by any means. It just feels like this reboot project with Atlanta has kind of been a little bit cursed.

And obviously we haven't seen any footage. I don't know what else they have going on with this cast. Maybe the new women are fantastic and this can be overcome. But it just feels like the kind of thing where this franchise was so great for so long. And the last few seasons have kind of felt like the air slowly being let out of a balloon. And a situation like this, even if it could make a compelling, you know, arc on a show, it just doesn't bode well for the long-term health of the franchise or even for this full season. Because now they're going to have to figure out how to address this, if they address this.

if they address this? Are they showing all of it going down and just like blurring out an image of this woman, you know? Like it's, there are a lot of questions. And of course, right after this news broke on Friday, Kenya was like, you guys, I'm going on Instagram live at 6 p.m. to address things. And so, of course, my dumbass goes on Instagram live at 6 p.m. because I want to see Kenya address things. And she's sitting on there just shooting the shit about her salon. She's like, thank you to Team Twirl who's been here from the beginning. And also, did you know how hard it is to have a salon? And thank you for all your support.

And I'm not going anywhere. And also, there have been bloggers who have been making fake appointments and then not showing up. So they're filling up our books at the salon. So we look empty and we're not making money in X, Y, Z. I'm like, girl, look, I get you have to hustle for a buck out here. But like, be fucking for real. nobody's coming on Instagram live to see you talk about the achievement of opening a salon. Read the room.

And that's the thing. Kenya's smart. Kenya can read the room and know that she's going to get thousands of people in her live. And so she's going to be talking about a salon. And there are people in the comments that don't know what's happening. So it's just heart, heart, heart, heart, team twirl. We love you, Kenya. But then it just makes you seem like you don't really understand the gravity of the situation.

And then she also, she posted, I think on Twitter, I saw somewhere she posted basically that she, or maybe this was a rumor. I don't know. Sorry. We'll see. But she's essentially now pivoting to saying that people signed an NDA to be at this filming event and then leaked the footage of her showing this poster. So really, it's those people's fault that she was suspended from filming. So now she's trying to see if she can sue people for essentially like, telling on her, this, of course, operating on the theory that if this didn't go public, that she wouldn't have gotten disciplined and wouldn't have been suspended from filming. I don't know. I don't know where the network's internal standards are at this point. But, God, it's just like that and the tweet denial. It's just like, you're on real shaky ground right here. And it feels, it's frustrating that this is kind of what this has come to because it's such an iconic franchise. now we're like standing here wondering if there even is going to be a season

and it just feels like something that could have been avoided so easily Girl winter is so last season and now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs you're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders that perfect hang on the patio sundress those sandals you can wear all day and all night

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See you at... Not the reunion. But anyway, we start with the conclusion of the great Fuda and Judice sit down of last week. And can I just say, I feel like it's been a while since I've complained about a to-be-continued usage on Housewives. What are we doing here? Why was this a two-be-continued? The last episode ended with John and Rachel storming out and then suppressing.

surprise, they just leave. So there is literally one minute at the beginning of this episode of John and Rachel leaving the gift that they were supposed to take to Melissa and Joe's housewarming from Teresa and Louis. And then Teresa and Louis just being like, where the fact is the fucking, look at the fact, John Fugazi. It's like, I don't want to beat a dead horse and be like, stop it with the two we continue. But really, they didn't cut that scene in half.

They cut off the very, very tail end. And I just think that it's a little bit. It's a little bit of a cheap trick, if you will. But anyway, that's my little soapbox moment about editing practices in Real Housewives. Just one little note about Danielle's house. We see them. You know, she's still floating, coming back down to Earth after the Bougy Kids fashion show. But her real full-time job is being a mom. Love that. I really am obsessed with Valentina's

little bed cave situation. Essentially, Dominic and Valentina share a room and they have this like bunk bed type of situation. But when she goes in to wake them up, Valentina is on the very bottom level. Like, I think maybe just on the floor. I'm like, I don't know if there's a mattress in there. But it looks like there's like a doggy door on the bottom of this bunk bed. And Valentina is like in her little, in her little lair sleeping down there. And I'm like, I think I need that. I want, should I buy myself a bunk bed? If it has a little, if it has a little cubby that I can just crawl inside of, that might be what I need.

I feel like I've been sleeping terribly lately. Not like fully terribly. I've just been waking up so early and I feel like the light. I have blackout curtains, but then like it's around the edges. I just think if I had Valentina's bed, I don't even know if it's a bed. It's like under the bed. Should I start sleeping under the bed? No, I feel like it's like dusty down there. I don't know. Whatever. Maybe I'll slide into Danielle's DMs and be like, hey, hey, girlie, where'd you buy the bed?

We get a nice scene with Dolores and her mom and her daughter Gabby. They do their their weekly lunch on Tuesday because that's Gabby's Day Off from being a vet. I'd love to see this. You know, they're having a good little catch up, having a good little gab, talking about, you know, Frankie and Brittany, talking about Frankie Jr. and his girlfriend and how much they like her. And then we get into the whole stuff with Dolores and Polly and the business situation that Polly wants to start an 11th.

electrician business, but he's not an electrician, but he's like a, he's a contractor. And I love that Dolores's mom, she's like our voice in the scene. And she's like, Polly's not an electrician. I thought he was an electrician. He's like, no, he's a contractor and he contracts electricians. Who the fuck knows? I, I feel like I talked about this last week. I don't know. I couldn't tell you for certain what any of the guys on New Jersey do, except for like something with construction, something with houses, something with, something with, does John, to do like tile? See, I don't know. They all work in like, they all work in like house adjacent industries. But when Polly wants to start a business with Dolores, I'm like, what is Dolores

place in this? And she doesn't know either. She's like, I don't know what my title would be. I don't know exactly what I would be doing. And it's like, right. So does Polly want to be in business with Dolores as like an actual partner? Or does he just want a check from her? And I I don't mean to like so doubts about Paul's intentions. Because I don't think he's a bad guy. But I do have questions. And Dolores has questions too. Like, answer the questions.

These last couple weeks, you're just, Polly is starting to, I feel like he's starting to creep into a little bit of a sticky spot. With, maybe with Dolores, but I think certainly with the fans, where it's like, Dolores. is our queen. Like, Dolores is, everybody loves Dolores.

And I feel like more than any other housewife, certainly more than any other housewife on this show, I think. But more than most other housewives, period, if you hurt Dolores, you better sleep with one eye open. You better sleep with one eye open because it's not going to be good. I got to stop with that.

But anyway, I look forward to Paul, hopefully, coming to a point of clarity with his divorce and with his business. And hopefully he and Dolores will be on the same page about everything by the end of the season, but also they finished filming like eight months ago and they're still not engaged. So who knows? I just am like, Dolores, you deserve, you deserve an A plus. And I feel like right now he's given you a B. It's a passing grade, but it's not great. We could be doing better. Then we get like matching scenes of both Teresa and Rachel at home.

And I love that basically like word for word. They're both like so glad to be recharging and resetting from the toxicity of their conversation with with one another. And Teresa's like, he's like, I'm in there with John Fugazi and he's a goofball who can't admit when he's wrong. What? This John Fuggey. thing. I don't think it's giving what Teresa thinks it's giving. Like, look, I like

a good shady nickname. It can be fun sometimes, but she said it like half a dozen times in the last two or three episodes. And I'm like, you gotta like, you gotta like chill with the John Fugazi. I don't think it's like that, I don't think it's like sticking, really. I mean, it's

probably sticking for like Tree Hugger 2477 on Twitter, but like it's, I don't think it's sticking in like a a broader cultural sense. And it feels like a little bit try hard. Also try hard. One of the daughters is now wearing the Namaste bitches hat in this scene.

Again, I think I mentioned this last week. That podcast no longer exists. Teresa had some sort of, who knows, what type of issue with her co-host, Melissa. Not to be confused with Melissa Gorga, of course. And now she started her own podcast that Louie's involved with. funny how Louis has a way of sort of like bringing everything in-house. I'm sure there's no ulterior motive.

I wouldn't even suggest it. But it is just so funny that they have clearly made such an effort to be wearing the Namaste bitch's merch in like every scene they film at home this season. And now they are, all of that free promo is going to a podcast that no longer exists. Oh. Now the tables have turned. But Rachel, you know, she also had to cleanse her volleyball. She says that the lunch with Teresa really showed her that Teresa is exactly the person she hopes she never becomes.

In a way, I believe her, but also it's like, Teresa's living your dream. She's been the star of a reality show for 14 years. Like, maybe you hope you're never like, like her in like certain personality ways. But like, I think in a lot of ways, she also is the blueprint. I mean, John clearly is, loves the camera like I'm off to a flame. They are very interested in really getting in the mix this season, particularly with Teresa. And I'm thankful for it. I think we need that.

But also it's like, okay, like she, I don't think you like her. But I think that being like her actually kind of is the goal. Teresa is now, along with, I think, Tamara and Kyle, the longest running housewife, 14 seasons. Rachel Fuda, she's got a decade plus to go. don't count your chickens, Mama. I don't know how long this truck is still going to be running. If the no reunion decision is anything, any indication. But anyway, this episode really, really, really is about Melissa's housewarming.

And this housewarming, it delivers on so many fronts. It just, first of all, the house looks great. You can disagree. I know they, people were really dragging. them for like, we got initial photos to the house and people were saying that it looked like it was built on like Sims 3 when you're trying to like, I don't know, put a million bedrooms in the ugliest mansion on earth. And then they did some work to it. They kind of like, they judged it a bit. They replaced those Dementor looking lamps. They added like a new part

on the front so it looks a little bit less like AI generated. But this, you know, more important than the house is what's going on inside of it. And there's a lot happening of the. And there's a lot happening of this party. Because first of all, we have Margaret and Jackie kind of reuniting after there have been some issues growing between them. And specifically, Marge was not at Danielle's bougie brunch, but she was told by Melissa that Jackie was trash-talking her there. So Marge is, she's keen to get answers. Jen Aiden is going to this housewarming party. You know, she and Melissa are newly olive branched the fuck out. And so they're going to see how it goes. But I just love.

Jen is talking about her, like, issue with Danielle. And just like to start this sentence, when we were at the Bruges brunch and we were talking about the puppy party, imagine explaining this to a pilgrim or to like a medieval person. The bougie brunch, the puppy party, talking about Danielle, treating people like shit because of her ambition. Jen says that God has a funny way. of humbling people.

And the whole Jen and Danielle thing, I understand Jen being like a little put off by the way that Danielle handled the situation with Lena. But Jen is just, it feels like she's going so hard against Danielle. And I'm not sure that it quite like adds up to me. Like this Lena thing, I think was interesting, but it was more interesting from the sense that Jen clearly invited this woman to the puppy party to Biscuit's birthday. to Biscuit's birthday, specifically so that she could share this,

you know, negative seeming story about Danielle. And I am kind of wondering more, what is at the root of Jen caring so much about ruining Danielle's, you know, reputation, credibility, whatever. Because it's like, okay, if you were a little, like, if you didn't love the way she handled

kicking Lena out of the VIP, I would get that, but then it's just be like, hey, Danielle, you know, you're, you're newer to this than me. In the future, I would just say, you got to be more careful how you treat people because it could come back to bite you. Or maybe it's about the step and repeat. Maybe you couldn't put aid in plastic surgery on the step and repeat? God, I love, I love when there's a step and repeat drama on housewives. Because truly what is more, what could be more trivial, but it just like is so. specific and amazing.

Like going back to Roney season like two or three when they're talking about the social register and Jill was mad about the step and repeat. I think there was a storyline in Dallas one time where people wanted to be on the step and repeat. It just, it always gives. And so when Jen threw that out there, it's like, oh, so this isn't about Lena at all. It's about like you felt like Danielle used you. And Danielle's like, bitch, we made $25,000 for charity.

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That's Freedom to Be. Use us directed. But then, of course, the Jackie thing, the Jackie of it all. Jackie has found herself in a very interesting position this season because we know that she has been getting cozier with Teresa and she's been getting perhaps less cozy with the other side of the group. Melissa kind of, she's talking about Jackie coming to the party and she stops just short of saying that she only invited Jackie

because she didn't want to get dragged for not inviting her. She's like, oh, well, you know, she's like, I still have a... a love for Jackie. I still, you know, I still like the girl. And also, I don't want to hear again about Jackie not getting invited to something because that's come up a few times. And it's like, yeah, I think that's actually the reason why you invited her. Also, because there's kind of like unfinished business on this side of the group. I think if Jackie wasn't here, we wouldn't have gotten kind of like the most iconic moment. But anyway, there's a lot that happens. So, Dolores is asking if Marge is going to have a talk with Jackie.

she decides that she will. Dolores tells Marge that Jackie thinks that she's in Rachel's ear. So that the reason that Rachel dislikes Teresa so much is because Margaret and Melissa essentially are telling her to not like her. And Rachel is like, okay, first of all, I don't like her because she spread a thing about my husband. I also don't like her because she said a thing about Jaden's mom and like Jaden's mom is me. Like, I literally adopted this kid. Like, his mom, his, like, biological mother is not his mom and is not in his life. And it does not have, should not have standing in this group to impact the way that you think about me.

But so, you know, Rachel has her whole, you know, other thing. John also, by the way, bringing up that he was younger than Gia when he got in trouble for drug stuff. And reminding us that Jackie had gotten huge trouble for bringing up Gia, few seasons ago, a rumor, you know, about that she heard a hypothetical. A hypothetical, yes. But the Marge and Jackie confrontation, it's real interesting. Melissa, Melissa says she's not mad at Jackie for making up with Teresa. Jackie, she's mad at Melissa for bringing up her saying that Teresa caused her relapse. She says that this was like a private moment. And Melissa's like, well, you said it on my podcast. And also it's in the book. So it's like, maybe you're,

You didn't like the way I deployed that, but like, it's not a secret. And Jackie, Jackie thinks all of this just boils down to her being okay with Teresa. And so she kind of like storms off from Melissa and Margaret. And it's, Jackie seems to be in a position of like, I don't know if she feels like this is her last chance to kind of salvage a spot on the show. Of course, she kept her friend contract this season but was not upgraded to a full-time housewife. but it did kind of feel like the first few episodes of this season, she was kind of being relegated to like maybe even not a friend anymore. Like she was at a couple of the events, but really wasn't getting any sort of screen time. And she definitely has worked her way back in there for better or for worse.

I mean, I think it sort of stands to reason a little bit. And of course, I don't want to, I'm not inside her head. I don't know exactly why she's doing all of this. but that the more that she has an issue with Margaret and Melissa, the more that her kind of personal stuff is going to feel relevant to the show. That if it's just like, oh yeah, by the way, I'm good with Teresa now and nobody else cares, that's not an interesting storyline. But if it's Margaret sucks, Dolores is a fucking slob, we'll get there.

And, you know, now I'm besties with Teresa and I've never once had an issue with her. her don't roll footage because there is none. Suddenly that's interesting. And I don't know if it's like interesting, interesting in a way that is like actually interesting, but it's interesting in the sense that there is something, there's something to follow there. There's a storyline to be had. So then we move on from Melissa and Margaret to then Margaret's telling Dolores that

Jackie was complaining about not being tagged in this post about the charity baseball game, this fucking baseball game. Everything comes back to the Coney Island baseball game. And then, you know, after Jackie storms off from Margaret, she's like hugging Joe Benigno and Joe and Margaret's like, don't like my husband. We're not friends. You're just yelling at me. But then the real crux happens when Dolores is talking to Jackie. Jackie denies talking shit about her like Margaret said she did.

And then Margaret, like a fucking like samurai from across the room. We see her in the background. She swivels around her little bobbed head. And she sends Dolores a screenshot in real time of the text conversation where Jackie calls her a fucking slob after complaining about not being tagged in this post. And literally the words have just come out of Jackie's mouth. I didn't shit talk you. And then Dolores is like, a fucking slob? You call me a slob?

What is this, Jackie? A slob? And like, it's wild to watch Jackie just be like so caught in 4K in real time, red-handed. And her try to backpedal and be like, well, you know, like, you know, oh, it was about the situation. I don't think you're a slob. I was saying that the situation was like sloppy. And she's like in the confessional. She's like, a slob is not a big deal.

Like you're just saying like, you know, it's like not, they don't have their shit to go. It's just like they're, it's like, you know, there's such a slob. Oh my God. Oh, my God. But it's not a big deal. It's not like something that I would say to be like an actual. insult about somebody. And Dolores, meanwhile, she's like, where I come from, you call someone a fucking slob, that's a big deal. You're saying, oh, my God, you're such a slob. You're a slob.

It's such a stupid word to have like this much weight. But at the same time, the way that it goes down, the orchestration of Margaret in real time, in the moment, sending it to Dolores, having a Joe B. be like, look at your phone. Look at your phone. She's like, Dolores being like, I got to check on my dog. So she has like an excuse to get her phone. Margaret Joseph's, you don't have to love her, but you have to respect her.

Because who else, who the fuck else on Bravo is, is pulling that off? And this, we're really seeing now kind of the depth of Margaret and Jackie's fallout. And I think that was always the question going into this season, knowing that Jackie and Margaret are not on good terms, and knowing that Jackie and Teresa are together, there was kind of this question of like,

did Margaret turn on Jackie just because she doesn't like that she's friends with Teresa? And you might still think that that's the root reason. You know, again, I'm not inside these people's brains. But also it's like, oh, there's a lot. more layers here. And it's interesting that this is coming in sort of defense of Dolores, who is the person on this show who has kind of the least skin in the game when it comes to the, you know, teams and picking sides and all of that. And I think that that actually to me makes Margaret look better and Jackie look worse because it's like, oh, well, if you were talking

shit about like Jen Aiden. It's like, okay, yeah, she kind of like, she dishes it out. She can take it, whatever. She probably did whatever you're accusing her of. But it's like, calling, again, Queen Dolores, a fucking slob. Who are you? Who is Adrian Maloof in this world? You're probably, like, get it together. And I think that's what it feels like with, with Jackie. I mean, I don't want to use the word slob, but I would say maybe it feels a bit sloppy, a bit short-sighted, that like, okay, if you're mad about not being tagged in this picture, Jackie's like, oh, well, you know, Margaret, you should hear the things that, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and probably is about you, and where I come back to me, and where I come from, that's some serious shit. And then I do, I mean, in her professional, she's like, also, Margaret, stop talking about me.

She doesn't like that either. But it's like, no, we're dealing with you right now. Margaret, she's got to come into her, probably later. Maybe next episode. Who knows? Oh, wow. It was really an exhilarating ending to the episode. And I, you know, I understand there are larger forces at play of why this season of Jersey is maybe going to need a recalibration and why we're

not doing a reunion. But watching an episode of like this, I'm like, I just, I can't be mad. I can't complain. Are you not entertained? I'm certainly entertained. I hope you were too. And we'll be back later this week. I have an interview coming out later this week with Caroline Stanbury, a lot of fun. Make sure you're watching episode three of Dubai, so you can be caught up for that. But in the meantime, thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mentioned at all is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca Sousmaqat.

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