Mention It All - Shannon Explains It All (Plus RHODubai)

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

The new season of RHOC doesn’t premiere til next week, but Dylan starts today’s episode by unpacking a sneak peek clip of Shannon Beador explaining the circumstances of her DUI. Not great! Then, he does a dramatic reading of Brandi Granville’s latest Twitter spiral—she’s still not over the RHUGT Morocco debacle, in case you were wondering. From there, Dylan recaps Dubai’s latest episode, which sees Caroline Brooks increasingly on an island of her own making. Plus, Caroline and Sergio’s baby journey takes more uncertain steps. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to check me both Hey everyone Welcome back to the mention it all podcast I'm Dylan Hafer It's Wednesday July 3rd Tomorrow's the holiday Wow

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So no stress about what to talk about on Thursday. Sometimes the universe just works out. Today we've got a new episode of Real Housewives of Dubai to talk about. But before we get into that, some more little tidbits of updates. First of all, O.C. coming back next week and this clip that they put out yesterday of Shannon Storm's Bador opening up about her DUI like never before. It's a couple minutes long.

And we see Shannon talking to her daughters about how bad she feels and how embarrassed she is that at her big age of 59, she doesn't have her shit together. And specifically, so she feels really bad because so the younger daughters, the twins, started college. And obviously because you can't be in two places at once, David had to move in one of the girls. I don't, I don't remember who's who. That's not my job. but she's like, I moved in Sophie, I moved in twin number one, and then I was supposed to visit you, third one, I got the names, fuck. I was supposed to visit you, but now because of my mistake, I can't, and I feel really bad.

And like, okay, I don't want to be like callous about somebody else's, you know, legal situation. You know, clearly Shannon going through it for, you know, a decade plus, as long as we've known her, she's been going through it. You know, it sucks to not be able to visit your daughter at college. I'm glad that she's acknowledging that it is the consequences of her own actions. But then in the confessional, she shares a little bit about the night that it all went wrong. And this is, I think this is the most we've really heard her talk about it so far. I mean, it makes sense. She's saving it for the show. But she specifically says that she stupidly drove to John Jansen's house and then they got in a fight and he called her a drunken idiot.

And then to, uh, to, to, to prove him wrong, she went and got in the car and then revved it really loud to show, she says, to show how mad I was. And then she lost control of the vehicle immediately. Like, I, I, again, I don't want to be flippant about this, but. This type of story, it's like Justin Timberlake had one martini. And then he wouldn't do the breathalyzer. And so he got arrested. I mean, he had quote unquote one martini.

I don't know. If you are drunk and you're having an argument where somebody says you're drunk and then there's no part of your brain that's like, perhaps I'm drunk and I should not therefore go get in my car. it just feels like such a such an unforced error that it's like girl if it's like you know to quote Heather Debrough if everyone says you're dead it's time to lie down if everyone says you're drunk it's time to call an Uber go get your car the next day I am I'm nervous for how this conversation is going to be handled in the full season because obviously this little clip is kind of you know It's a little tidbit. She is showing remorse with her daughters.

Like, I believe that she feels bad. But I am like, I really hope that we don't kind of laugh off this story because it's like, that type of behavior doesn't seem indicative of somebody who just like had one too many glasses of wine and then like didn't wait long enough to get in the car. It's like, that's like really reckless.

I mean, when Gina was shopping at her little, at her little, what was it, like a lingerie party and then got in the car after one too many cocktons. I don't think she was revving up the engine to show, I don't know, Shannon how mad she was. You know, not to defend Gina's DUI either, because like, let's just not get DUIs. That feels like a good baseline. No more DUIs. I would be a fan of that.

O.C., though, back next week, we will talk about it, of course, in due time. I don't know how much time you guys are spending on Twitter these days. It's probably for the best, if it's less in your case. But I was, I'm always looking out for what. but our girl Brandy Glanville is going through these days. I mean, like Shannon Bador, Brandy in a permanent state of going through it in 2024. And she is, how do I say this? She has not moved on one inch from what happened in Morocco on the Real Housewives' Ultimate

Girls' trip. And she's tweeting about it. So this is, I'm just going to read. These are three tweets posted roughly each 10 minutes apart. yesterday. I read that I wasn't punishment for the false allegations in Morocco. I was fired, removed from the cast held hostage in a hotel in Morocco for days. The cast rallied on my side and didn't want to continue without me.

Because of the bad untrue press, I've been canceled from all jobs. Twelve minutes later. I've been left no choice but to sue Bravo. I have receipts four days. That's a number four days with no space in between. This stress has ruined my health. I have uncontrollable stress-induced angioedema, and I haven't worked for a year and half. I'm depressed.

I'm too depressed to do my podcast and too swollen for Cameo or OF. That's only fans if you don't spend a lot of time on gay Twitter. I'm being used as a ball guy. And then eight minutes after that one, this is in all caps just for your, you know, spatial awareness. I want so desperately to tweet all of my receipts, but my lawyers won't let me. I do appreciate all of your support more than you know. My cast from Morocco has been so amazing and supportive, and I love those gals. Brandy, at a certain point, you got to sue or get off the pot.

This is now over a year. This season was filmed like January, 2023. And we're still doing these like stream of consciousness. I was so wronged that, you know, I'm the fall guy. I was trapped in a hotel. It's like, if you have a lawsuit to file, file the lawsuit and then shut up about it. Let the, you know, due process, you know, play out in the courts. You know, not that I have a lot of that much faith in our legal system these days, but it's just like, Brandy.

I believe that she hasn't really worked for a year because nobody who has a job is doing this shit on Twitter. And I do, I mean, if she's having these health issues, the angioidema and she's swollen and all of that stuff, like that's, it sucks. I hope that she's well. But like from these tweets, it's like, oh, I don't know if that seems likely. But then I was reading these and I was like, why does this sound familiar? Why do I feel like I've just read a tweet of the same vibe? And I realized that, you know who else was tweeting up a storm yesterday? B.B. Rexa, all about the music industry.

And this, okay, does this tweet not sound like it could have been from Brandy if it was just like a little less spell-checked? I could bring down a big chunk of this industry. I am frustrated. I have been undermined. I've been quiet for the longest time. I haven't seen the signs even though people are constantly bringing them up and have been so obvious.

And when I have spoken up, I've been silenced and punitive. by this industry. Things must change or I'm telling all of my truths, the good, the bad, and the ugly. B.B. Rexa, I don't know exactly what you're going through, but it's got to be better than Brandy Glanville. At least B.B. Rexa's not too swollen to do cameo or only fans, right? I mean, we've all, we've all accepted for a while now that we're just never seeing the Morocco season of girls' trip. I don't know, I don't know what kind of communication there's been with Brandy or anyone else from the cast. I have a feeling not much because it seems like they're kind of just trying to act like that season never happened. But I mean, it's it's tough because I would

never say like, oh, team Brandy, she did nothing wrong. I know exactly what happened there. We don't know exactly what happened there. But like I, you know, I still would like to see. We're not getting in any other season of girls trip. It's been a year now. It's been a full year now, they filmed the Roney Legacy season. And I have not heard one, one little peep about the future of Real Housewives' Ultimate Girl's trip. And I don't even mean like, oh, they haven't confirmed that it's happening. I'm like, the streets aren't talking. The streets are quiet.

And I just am like, I don't know what we're doing here. Brandy, I just, I don't know. She could have had such a good little trajectory. She could have been on traders every season. She could have been on stars on Mars right now. She could be, I don't know. I was going to say she could be on, like, world's toughest test. I don't think that would go well for her.

If, like, JoJo Siwa and Tom Sandoval are crying every episode, I don't think Brandy would do well with that. But it's just, it's tough to watch somebody who was once such a force in the Housewives world, really just flame out like this. Ah, Brandy. I, you know, I hope you're well, but it's just get off Twitter. The drinking and tweeting days, it's over. It's done.

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episode as such. But I think that this season, I'm starting to get comfortable with the idea that Dubai is just something that is like kind of a nice little palate cleansing, refreshing vibe. And there's, you know, some good drama happening, some interesting personalities. And that's kind of all there is to it. Like, it's just, it's just not that deep. And that's okay. But it is, we do see some classic housewives dynamics at play. And specifically I'm talking about whatever is going.

on between Caroline Brooks and Tallinn and, you know, by extension, Caroline Stanbury. But the way that Caroline Brooks handles herself in these interpersonal situations is really strange to me. And I don't, I almost wonder, like, when you see somebody that's really kind of acting up on a show like this or really being kind of, you know, over the top and, you know, very reactive and all of that. my first instinct is like, oh, it feels like they're putting on for the cameras. Like it feels like they're, you know, kind of trying to create a show. But then when I actually take a step back and think about the way that Brooks is handling this situation with Talene, I'm like, I don't actually think this is a good strategic move. So maybe you're just kind of like this?

I'll walk it back just a little bit. Okay, so Talline came on the show. just five short episodes ago, as Caroline Brooks's friend, Tullyne has talked about how Brooks is one of her oldest friends in Dubai, you know, they go back a long time, you know, this, that, and the other thing. And going into this season, Brooks clearly has, you know, has it out for Caroline Stanbury in a way. So the second that Taleen and Stanbury start to, you know, make inroads together, you can tell that Caroline Brooks is just like deeply not okay with that. to her core. You know, we talk on all these shows about loyalty and like, who's allowed to be

friends with who. Caroline Brooks is like to the, to the next level. She's like, no, I'm not only am I not okay with you being friends with her. I'm going to do my damnedest to make sure that this doesn't go anywhere or else I'm going to throw a shit fit. And this episode, that's kind of what she does. So there's this situation. Basically, so in the last episode, you know, We have the situation where Sergio was talking about Caroline's kids. And so, you know, Tallene talked about that at the, you know, the whatever dinner. And then there was this 3 a.m. phone call. So Brooks called Tallene in the middle of the night basically just to talk shit about Stanbury.

And there was this accusation that Stanbury had told Lisa that she doesn't actually like Talline. So she doesn't understand why she pulled her away from her. from the table to say this thing about Sergio and it was like such a big deal. And, you know, Stanbury says that this isn't true, that she is annoyed at Brooks inserting herself in the situation. Everybody's like, everybody seems to be starting to realize if they didn't already know that like Brooks is kind of the source of a lot of this, um, a lot of this strife and a lot of these issues within the group seem to be coming from a common source. Now, to be fair, I do think Stanbury kind of did say that she doesn't know

why Taleen pulled her away from the table. Like, it seems like that part maybe was true, but that the idea that Stanbury doesn't like Talene is like a little too far. And Lisa kind of is, Lisa kind of is the missing piece where she's like, yeah, I mean, she said that it was weird, but like, that's it.

Brooks is making it into a bigger thing. So then when, you know, when Brooks tells Taleen this, it's like this whole issue of Taleen being mad at Stannbury for not blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's kind of like, like, again, with this show, it's like, I don't necessarily care that much. Like, I'm not, you know, I'm not losing sleep over whether, you know, Tallinn and

Stanbury are going to braid each other's hair at the next sleepover. But basically, Tallene has sensed that there is an issue with Brooks. And so she, they have, they go to this dinner. It looks like a lovely restaurant. Caroline, of course, shows up wearing this, like, you know, silver spandex suit. And it's like, what are we doing here? This is something with Dubai that I'm like, I look, I know we love the looks.

We love the fashion, but it's like my kingdom for a normal outfit. Like, what I wouldn't give to see just like a big, a big fat heel and like a cute dress. Instead, we've got I on in like another ball gown in the desert. We'll get to it. But Brooks and Tallinn are at this dinner. It's like, you know, they're out on this terrace. Everywhere in Dubai that they go to, it looks like it just has like a lovely outdoor dining space. And then I remember that it's 100 degrees. And I'm like, nope, air conditioning would be good for me. But they sit down to this dinner. And basically right away, Tallin is like, hi. So I feel like you were instigating in this situation with me in Stanbury and trying to create an issue.

And Caroline is just zero percent down to even have this conversation. She's like, mm-mm, nope, not instigating, being a good friend, looking out for you, I care. And so they have this, like, it's a very weird, it's a short scene that kind of felt long because they're just like, it's so immediate that the second Tallene, brings up the issue, Brooks is done. Talene is like, okay, so like now that we can have this conversation, let's move forward. And Caroline is like, nope, there's no moving forward. I'm good.

She just pushes her chair back, leaves the table. She's like, okay, bye. And I just, like I said earlier, I don't think that this is a smart way to handle a conflict on an ensemble show that only has six people. Two of whom, or, you know, Stanbury you don't get along with. Lisa, I don't know how that's going these days. Ayan, not super close. And now Talene, who you brought on the show, or like, you know, air quotes brought on the show,

just five short episodes ago, now you're going to be no longer friends with her. This is something where I've thought about it a lot on New Jersey this season because of how polarized the group is and how they're, have been these kind of allegiance changes, that it's like something like Jackie being friendly with Teresa and Jennifer actually makes a big difference because Teresa and Jennifer, if you look at the cast, don't have a lot of friends. And while Teresa and Jennifer are more than capable of holding their own on Housewives and are iconic in their own right, I don't think that Caroline Brooks or, you know,

frankly, anyone on this cast is at that point. So if we get to the end of this season and the only person, Brooks is talking to is like Sarah about this German guy that she like is or is not perhaps dating, but definitely not kissing. Definitely not kissing. It's like, what is the goal there? Where do you think that's going to take you in this cast? Because I mean, if they get a season three, let's assume they do, they have a reunion. Brooks, you can tell right off the bat is not the kind of person who's going to come to a reunion with her tail between her legs and be like, you know, Stanbury and Tallinn and Ayan and Lisa, I feel like I haven't given you guys a fair shake. And so I'm going to take a step back and really work on myself. Like, that's not in the Brooks playbook. For better or for worse, you know, I'm not saying that has to be the vibe. But if you have made all of these choices that are pushing the group away, it's probably going to be. you to then make different choices to bring them back or to bring yourself closer to them.

I don't think that at the end of the season, I mean, I talked to Tallinn last week. She and Caroline Brooks are not friends right now, and they filmed this shit over a year ago. Ditto, I don't think, I don't think Stanbury is checking for a text from Brooks in the morning. Like, I just think that it's a, it's a strange call to just kind of like, it's like she's a, you know, a plane that needs to lose weight or whatever. And she's like cutting off her, she's like throwing tools out the window and, you know, supplies and shit. And it's like, girl, you might need that later. And I always, I think it's fascinating when you have new people on a housewives show, how they kind of will move within the group once they sort of are established enough to not just kind of hang out with

their friend that they already had. Like seeing, you know, Angie on last season of Salt Lake, kind of there was an initial period where it was like, okay, Angie is going to be kind of like in her predetermined spot. And then by the end of the season, it's like all bets are off. You can be friends with whoever you want, like follow them, you know, follow the breadcrumbs. And I think Talene, to her credit, is doing a good job of that where it's like Tallinn could have been enemies with Stanbury just by proxy from being Brooks's friend. And she kind of went the opposite direction. She said, I'm going to see what's going on over here. I'm going to. to get to know Sarah a little bit. I'm going to, you know, hang out with Ayan. Like, I think that Tallinn

at this point feels like she has more relationships in the group than, uh, than Brooks, which is just, I can't imagine that that's what Brooks actually was intending to happen. I don't know. We've still got a good chunk of this season left to go. So I'm very curious to see sort of like where the pieces end up on the chess board, but it does seem like Caroline Brooks is going to have her work cut out for her if she wants to be like a meaningful part of this group. after this season. When you finally find your thing, you want the whole world to know about that thing.

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We get a lot more Caroline and Sergio content. I can't quite decide whether I think that they are compelling enough as a couple to be as central in this show as they are. Like, obviously Caroline is somebody that we've known for a long time and is like, you know, she's a good personality. I like having her on the screen. I did, she shared, um, the other day she shared like an article that somebody wrote about her on Instagram and the headline is like move over Lisa Vandapump. There's a new Brit on

Bravo. And I'm like, first of all, Lisa Vanderpump is still on Bravo. Second of all, Caroline Stanbury has been on Bravo for a fucking decade. We just talked about this. Ladies of London premiered 2014. There's not a new Brit on Bravo. I digress. Caroline and Sergio, I think sometimes when they have these solo scenes, it's giving like sitcom to me and I really enjoy it. but sometimes I'm like, enough. We get it. You have different attachment styles. We get it.

You're stressed about the house. The house. You guys, the house is not done. I don't know how things work and do by. I've never built a home. Certainly not a, you know, a home with an 80-year-old bonsai tree being airlifted into the middle of it that has to be watered by like two, I don't know. Like Sherpa is coming down for the mountain. It's wild.

The house isn't done. It's so funny that they're walking through like construction zone. And then they open the door and Caroline's closet is like flawlessly organized. Okay. Well, I'm glad the Birkins are all in their designated spot while you're figuring out like when your furniture is going to arrive. You know, you got to love the priorities. Ayan is not necessarily a fan of the house.

In her confessional, they're like, do you like the house? She's like, well, let me not be shady. She kind of is calling it like it is because she says that if Caroline doesn't give Sergio a baby, this marriage is not going to work. And I mean, as much as I want them to do whatever works for them and, you know, a fertility journey is, you know, clearly, you know, very personal and very complicated and lots of different layers, the longer we see them have these conversations on camera, it does just feel harder and harder to ignore the fact that they just like fundamentally seem to be on different pages about this whole situation.

Like granted Caroline is not outright saying no to the idea of having another baby and they go to this fertility clinic where their embryo is. And, you know, Sergio, of course, is emotional even seeing the embryo. It's very, it's very Dale Mortimer from back in the day on Roney crying over the eggs with Tinsley. But the thing is, like, that's, I understand that for him. Like, that's, that represents so much for him. And knowing that they just have this one embryo and Caroline is, you know, 40, whatever. And the doctor is saying, you really should try and be doing this within the next year. and then in the confessional, they're like,

Caroline, do you want to have a baby in a year? And she's like, fuck no. I'm not trying to have a baby in a year. It's like at a certain point, like, well, are you, do you want to have a baby? Because it's fine either way. But like Ayan said, if the answer is no, then like Sergio might go take his 29 year old equipment somewhere else.

I don't know. I mean, it's, again, it's very complicated. I don't want to be judgmental or anything. Also, it's like so wild how the laws and stuff, I mean, we're one to talk living in America. Like the laws are fucked up to here and back. But like surrogacy isn't a thing in the UAE. So they're saying if they were to use a surrogate, the surrogate would have to be in a different country. And they use America as an example. And Caroline says, and I kind of get this. She's like, if we use a surrogate in America, then I'm going to like forget that we're having a baby and then all of a sudden the baby's just going to like arrive one day and then our entire life is going to be different. And I kind of feel that too. Like I I feel like I'm a very out of sight, out of mind kind of person. And so I feel like it would be so easy to just like do the whatever the process. Surrogate. Surrogate. I'm not OBGYN. But then it's like what are you like WhatsApping your surrogate every day for pick. I don't think Caroline's going to be doing that. I don't think she's going to be like on FaceTime every day with her surrogate being like, is the baby kicking? Did you feel it? Show me the bump. It's just not, it's not in her nature. And I think, I hope that they can, you know, figure out a situation that works for everyone. But it's just, it's tough to watch two people who clearly are, you know, have a lot of love for each other, but are just like at such different points in their life. And, you know, even Caroline's daughter, Yasmin is like, I was raised by a nanny and you're going to have another baby now. Look, and Caroline's like, well, I had 18 employees and, you know, she was raised by lovely nannies, and my nannies were wearing brown uniforms and it was very different. It's like, okay, so like your nannies could wear whatever they want. Whoopee. Like, I don't know.

The whole, like, British upper class upbringing is something that is clearly just so foreign to us. I mean, she went to boarding school. So it's like there's a lot of, there's a lot of interesting like intersections there of like cultural things, age things. Obviously, you know, money is, you know, a very tangible part of deciding whether you're going to have a surrogate or a, you know, use an embryo or just having another baby in general. Everything is expensive. Like there, there really are a lot of layers there.

And I'm curious whether there will be kind of a resolution. I mean, it's over a year since they filmed this, and Caroline does not have another baby. And based on me seeing her like a month ago, I don't think there's a baby coming like next week or anything. So yeah, it is kind of, I mean, for a long time, it almost reminds me of Candace and Chris on Real Housewives of Potomac where it felt like for three or four seasons,

it kind of was like, and when are we having a baby? Like every reunion, Andy's like, whenever you're having a baby, which like, you know, maybe that's a separate question of whether Andy should be asking everyone when they're having a baby. But then Candace got pregnant and left the show and like, good for her. She's probably going to have a much less stressful pregnancy because, you know, Wendy's not going to be screaming at her. I don't know. I'm very, I am curious to see how Caroline and Sergio's relationship and journey of perhaps going toward parenthood develops. Maybe we do need a third season.

But then we end in the desert. Caroline fakes everyone out by having to get into this little family van. And then there's actually sports cars. I don't really care about sports cars. I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, okay, cool. You get to drive a Porsche for 20 minutes. I would just be stressed out that I was going to like crash it into something or like

do the gear shifting wrong. Do they, are those stick shift? Like if I rolled up and it was like a stick shift. sports car, I would be like, okay, so I'm calling an Uber. How do I get there? I don't know how to do that. But it is one thing that was, that stuck out to me that I don't know that we had mentioned before on this show. So they're filming during Ramadan. And this is interesting because at least a couple women in the cast are fasting during Ramadan. And they, you know, we see them doing this, this, you know, breaking the fast dinner earlier in the episode. And this is when a bunch

of the women meet this guy, Akeem that Sarah is, Sarah's like kind of, you know, again, maybe or maybe not seeing. And, you know, we have the, uh, our friend of the season Saba. I'm not getting like a ton from her. I don't know. I guess it's like good to have another person in the mix.

But it's interesting then when they go to the desert, it's like a hundred degrees and it's the middle of the day. And they're like, yeah, this is, it's, it's too, it's too hot to be fasting right now. Like I'm, I'm having a glass of water. Just like, uh, it's a, it's an interesting like, extra dynamic that we don't get on most of these shows. So I thought it was cool that they're filming during Ramadan so we can kind of like

have that as an element of the show. I don't know. Just like, just something, something I noticed. But then Brooks shares that she's now on a healing journey to very Whitney Rose of her. She's been to one, one healing appointment so far.

And it ain't working so good. It's funny. Like, oh, like, yeah, you seem so calm. and Talene is like, bitch, what? Calm. They have two different versions of what happened at this dinner.

Brooks is like, well, I mean, we both like said our thing. And Talene is like, yeah, like I said my thing. And then you got up and left. And Brooks is like, okay. Fair enough. And now they're maybe not as close to friends as they thought. And Brooks doesn't give a fuck. And it's a to be continued.

I feel like Dubai has not earned this many to be continued endings. But what are you going to do? So that's where we leave off. I am, you know, I'm not not interested to see what happens next in the desert. I feel like this show right now is operating at like a solid B where it's like good enough for me. I'll keep watching. I don't know if I'm going to like think about it a lot after it ends. But, you know, we got got a good like 20 minutes out of it today.

And I think that's all we can ask for. And that's all I can ask for from you this week. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week. Enjoy your holiday. Have a safe and fun time. Maybe stay inside and watch Summerhouse. I don't care. But until next time, you can follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches and be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mentioned at all is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca Sousmaqat. Editing by Jorge Morales Pico. Social media by Dylan Hafer. Guest booking by Dylan Hafer and Ali Friedlander.

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