Mention It All - SLC Newbie Yikes & Dubrow Hot Mics

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

After a slow Bravo summer, the calender is heating up again, and Dylan is back with a double Housewives recap episode to prove it. He starts with Salt Lake, where things come back down to earth after the dizzying premiere episode. Whitney is still in the hot seat, Mary is back to her questionable communication tactics, and the newbies Bronwyn and Britani get their first taste of conflict—to mixed results. Over in Orange County, Shannon has sunken below rock bottom, while the rest of the group pivots to the lingering feud between… Ryan and Eddie? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast. Oh, boy, we are, we are finally eating good in the Bravo world. It has been a little bit of a weird few months. You know, there's been some blank spots in the calendar. I've had to talk about Real House Eyes of Dubai, maybe more than I cared to. maybe more than you cared to listen to. But if you listened, I love you so much. And thanks for sticking around. But we are back. We are oh so back. Today, we have a double Housewives recap. I didn't know if it would ever happen again. I didn't know where things were headed.

But we are really eating good now. Of course, we even still have more coming up with Potomac and New York premiering in the next couple weeks. I'm so excited to start getting into those seasons. But for today, we have Salt Lake. We have OC. We have so much to talk about. But also, I want to just flag if you missed yesterday's episode, Angie Katzanovis, the Angie, uh, was on the podcast. I had a really nice time talking to her. She is somebody who I think, um, she's had like an interesting trajectory on housewives. We talked about this, how she had a little bit of a rough start on the show last season. Um, but she was really lovely to meet to chat with, uh, a very warm presence, a very, um, she's very well spoken, very, um, very, just like, pleasant.

to talk to. And I love that. When a housewife has such a big personality on the show, you never quite know what you're going to get. And I really had a good time talking to Angie. So if you haven't listened to that episode, Heather Debrough was on on Monday. We've got some more fun guests in the works. I've been, you know, busy hitting the stew, just like Lala and James Kennedy. But yeah, make sure you're subscribed. Make sure you're following the show because we have some fun episodes coming up. And I think this one's going to be a fun one too. Before I dive into Housewives, I want to just touch on a few other shows that I've been watching. I post about stuff on my Instagram story sometimes, and people are always like, talk about it on the podcast. And look, we're here to talk about

Bravo. We're here to talk about housewives. If there's something like mom talk, I feel like it's worth devoting an episode, but you don't need to hear me talk about, you know, how much I'm enjoying the season of industry or something. That's not really what we're here for. But I do just want to flag a couple things that I've been watching in the, you know, in the reality, juicy space, I watched this documentary series on Amazon Prime, The Money Game, that's all about college athletics. And specifically in, if you don't pay a lot of attention to college sports, in the last few years, they've overturned this rule that prohibited student athletes from profiting off of their name, image, and likeness. So for a long time, college students basically couldn't make money aside from, you know, getting their scholarship. And that has been overturned. So this is a docu series on Prime that's all about LSU athletes.

So it's like Livy Dunn, Angel Reese, Flauget Johnson, Jaden Daniels, the quarterback. It's super interesting. And, you know, it's reality in a way. It's more of a docu-series. But it's, I think it's interesting, even if you're not like a big, huge sports person. I would recommend it. That's on Amazon. And then I also started watching just, I think yesterday came out, Mr. McMahon, which is the Netflix

docu series about Vince McMahon, the guy who started the WWE, and he has had some major scandals. I just started watching that, so I'm excited to get into it. But this was a documentary where they were in the process of making it and had done all these interviews with McMahon and his family and his business associates a few years ago prior to all the scandals breaking out. And then they basically have, you know, re-edited the whole documentary. And he's very unhappy about it, which tells you that it's probably going to be good. But those are just a couple of little recommendations, things that I have my eye on. I also watch the Menendez Brothers show on Netflix, the Ryan Murphy one. I got to say I liked it. I was into it. Let me know what you're

watching. I have some flights and stuff coming up and I desperately need things to download while I am supposed to be sleeping on a plane. So there's a lot of TV right now. There's so much happening. But let's just dive into the Bravo of it all, because that's what we're really here for. Oh, boy. Salt Lake City coming off of that premiere. The premiere was really a special episode, and I talked about it last week,

the way that it was so centralized in its focus on that Valentine's Day party, the second episode, sort of by necessity, was a little bit of like coming back down to Earth, a little bit of an exhale. And I don't mean that in a bad way, because I think because they chose

to make the premiere are such a tightly wound sort of piece in and of itself. I think the second episode needed to be a little bit of like a step back, a reintroduction. We have to get to know our new women. We have to, you know, spend some time at everybody's house. We have to go to Wendy's. If Lisa Barlow's in the car, that car is going to Wendy's. I feel like if she ever gets a self-driving car, it's just going to automatically go to Wendy's,

like whenever she turns it on. And then you can go wherever you're going. Like, I want to go to Wendy's. I want to go to Wendy's right now. Actually, I'm recording this in the morning. Wendy's has a really good breakfast. This is not an ad. I'm pretty sure Lisa, I'm pretty sure Lisa going to Wendy's was an ad.

Me talking about it right now is not. But we have a lot of kind of detritus to deal with after this premiere because, you know, a lot of things were thrown around. We have new women in the cast. We have new feuds between old women in the cast. And so everybody kind of needs to get back. on the same page. And we start out, like I said, with Lisa in the car with Bronwyn and Heather. Bronwyn is, after two episodes of Bronwyn, I am a little nervous about her because there is, and Heather kind of raises this point in her confessional, when Brownwin is speaking so strongly

about Whitney and saying that this healed wit thing feels like it's rehearsed in the mirror and she was like laughing her ass off at it. Heather says that she's wary of people who come in the group and have such strong opinions about people that they are only just meeting and just getting to know. And I think that this is a really good flag for Bronwyn because it's giving Monica just a little bit. And I don't mean that Bronwyn and Monica are necessarily similar personality types or that Bronwyn is like, you know, running a fan account that's going to, you know, expose the whole group. But I think it's more of like a general new person thing of it's clear that Bronwyn has

watched the show. I don't know if she would, I don't know if she says that she has. I haven't, I haven't talked to her. It is clear to me that Bronwyn has studied the group and has sort of made a lot of judgments, come in with a lot of kind of maybe a game plan, maybe some notes, you know, under the table. And I feel like it's great for a new person to come in hot and to make a strong impression. But I do think that what Heather's saying about like, you don't know these people yet, most of these conflicts don't involve you. When Bronwyn is talking about Whitney's healing journey, you know, we can, we can laugh about the healing, the healing journey. Like, I think it's, I, I think it's, you know, fair game kind of. But for the other women in the cast, like, they've spent the last

four years with Whitney and they have listened to her talk about her trauma and stuff with her family and all of that and and they whether or not they're in a good place with Whitney right now and for the most part they're not they have kind of that background and that understanding and that you know prior relationship with her to then be in the position they are now whereas Bronwyn is making all of these judgments off of meeting her a few times maybe and then it's what she's seen on TV. And I think that, you know, when you're sitting at home watching the show and thinking about, oh, if I was in the group, I would do X, Y, Z, you don't actually know what you would do.

And it's a lot different once you're actually there. And it's like, no, your job is to have a relationship with these people. Your job isn't to, like, you know, tweet and be mad about stuff. I don't know. Brittany Our other We haven't seen much of Maley yet So I feel like Brittany at this point is the other newbie

And she's having a tough time of it too Mary is just Mary cannot get over The comment about growing up poor And I look Was Britney a little bit foot in her mouth In that whole interaction in the premiere? Yeah, it was awkward, it was uncomfortable

But she didn't call Mary poor Mary made a comment that made Brittany think that she and Mary maybe had something in common, which is growing up poor, but she wasn't calling her poor. And the second Mary brought her up, she was like, oh, I'm sorry, I guess I'm just, guess that was just me. And this is the first, this is the thing that kind of like is tough for me with Mary, is that Mary doesn't have conversations in like the same human, plain that the rest of us do.

Like, I don't think that she is really able to have, like, things just get lost in translation with her in a way that is very frustrating to watch. And I have to imagine that it's frustrating, you know, if you're in Brittany's position or anyone else that's had, you know, issues with her on the show, I have to imagine that she's like kind of a pain in the ass to, to like argue with because she just will, she'll get stuck on something. she'll flip it around. And it's just like, I don't know, but she says,

don't ever call me poor because that's like being ungrateful to God. And sure, it's interesting to be back at Mary's house. Her son is in the picture. He's living with her, not in school, not working, just asking for money. So that's interesting. But like, I kind of forgot that this was the first time in a few years that we've really had Mary carrying scenes on her own. And I don't know how I feel about it.

I think that Mary, because Mary is so, like, idiosyncratic, I think that there is something, like, she brings a lot to the show in terms of the overall group vibe, but I'm a little nervous about her having, like, individual storyline. Because the last time that she was on the show, it was people. were still talking about her husband, people are still talking about her, her church, her business, whatever. And nothing has come up with that in a long time. And it kind of feels like we've left it behind. And, you know, she's not talking about it. Her husband is, you know, God knows where. It just is like a little, it's a little bit like, okay, what is going to be the thread with Mary this

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It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Meanwhile at Bronwyn's house, it looks like Mary's house, but like with a bigger budget. Just like bigger, cleaner, less clutter. I'm not saying she's a hoarder, but like Bronwyn's house is a little more. It's like a she, it's like if Mary's house was chic. And maybe it's still tacky, but like tacky in a way that looks rich versus looks a little scary. Bronwyn has a very interesting life, though.

So her husband, we know he's significantly older than her. And she shares that he used to be the CEO of Palm as in like a Palm Pilot. And then now he left the tech world and now he's in private equity and has a hedge fund based in New York. And so they live in Salt Lake City, but every week he needs to spend two to three days in New York. This is very, this is crazy information to me because I'm like, wait, he was the CEO of Palm and now he has a hedge fund. Like, this is money. This is money. And I'm like, okay, first of all, that's a lot of money.

And I feel like anybody who's running a hedge fund, I just have like questions for. But like, why is Bronwyn here? Like, what is this doing for her? Is she being a housewife for her just like something fun to do, just something on the side? She tells us that she worked in finance and she was at a trading desk in San Francisco. Like, what a background. What a story. She has a teenage daughter who's going to go to college soon and they're super close because she raised her on her own.

Bronwyn, again, I have reservations about her with the group dynamics, but like, very interesting background. and I'm curious kind of like how how it's going to go for her for the rest of the season. Yeah, elsewhere in the group, we're picking up a lot of pieces from the premiere. I didn't necessarily realize how upset Lisa was going to continue to be at Angie over her talking to Whitney about these podcast comments. They have to have this whole meetup by themselves. Lisa definitely thinks that she is arriving at this restaurant to receive an apology from Angie. but it kind of goes a different direction and Angie mostly complains

about how they were ganging up on Whitney and Angie is basically telling Lisa that people in the group are afraid of her and that they feel like they have to go along with what she's saying which I think there's like maybe something maybe something there but overall I think it's really

the way that this season is kind of being laid out these first two episodes that it's kind of like everyone save for Angie and a little bit Heather against Whitney. Like, Whitney's going to have a tough season. And I don't know where, I don't know where the storylines are going to go, you know, when we get down the line. But like, it's, it's going to be tougher because Meredith really seems to be, you know, banging the drum against Whitney.

Lisa, likewise, you know, Bronwyn is, is clowning her, but then kind of playing both sides. It's just like, it feels like this group, you know, the baton is always being passed of kind of who's in the hot seat. And right now it's really Whitney. And as much as she wants to have this, you know, fun trip to Milwaukee to go to a drag show, I think, I think she's going to have a tough time because Heather plans a Ropes Course Day. Um, God, I love a, I love a Housewives Rope Force. It's just like, it's chef's kiss. It's so fun. Um, seeing everybody just like suspended in the air. Meredith decides that she's not going to do it because she has tennis elbow from churning too much butter. I fully support that. Mary's doing the ropes course,

you know, good for her. I was not expecting to see her participate in things this season. But then after the ropes course, they all sit down to lunch. Heather gets them a food truck. Mary orders a cassidilla, as she says, which just means because she doesn't want to go number two. I'm like, what are we talking about? But we get a little more into Brittany's whole thing, because Brittany stands up and does this toast. And she says that Jared, Jared Osmond, the Donnie and Marie nephew,

asked her to be his girlfriend last night after they've broken up 16 times and eight months together. Just a bucket of laughs, this relationship. So fun. And not only did he ask her to be his girlfriend, but he went Instagram official. and it's like, oh, okay. And she's like, I know that that probably doesn't seem like a big deal, but like it is because he's literally never posted a woman ever.

So everybody goes to the Instagram and it's them sitting in a Costco cart and he's saying like going to Costco with my best friend. And this is like, I really want like wellness check on Brittany truly because like if you are in your 40s and you think that that. is what should be expected from a man. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, boy. Oh, boy. It's tough. It's really tough because, like, look, going Instagram official, to me, it's like, who cares?

You know, like, again, that's not something that is, like, the signifier of how great your relationship is. But the fact that it's clearly something that matters to her and that she wants and that she's, she's, like, told herself is a good thing and she's excited about. And then every single person looking at it is like,

oh, oh, baby, oh, no, this isn't, this isn't anything. And she talks a little bit about, she, she sort of,

she gets a little bit into, you know, her past and her, you know, trauma and things that have happened. Um, not super deep, but,

you know, she has issues. stuff with her kids, stuff with her, you know, prior relationship. And then Mary Cosby says, well, if you're so kind, why don't your kids like you? Oh my God. Oh, oh, Mary Cosby. Oh, oh, Mary. And then Bronwyn is like yelling at her about using her words carefully and, you know, being sharp with her words. And this is when Heather calls out Bronwyn for being two-faced and talking about Whitney behind her back and then Lisa brings up the podcast and Meredith brings up her issue with Whitney. It's really like a, just like a whirlwind of everybody being mad at each

other. And it's kind of, it kind of feels like a little bit of like premiere part two. Like, I think the, the Bezos party was like the sort of better version of most of these arguments. But the stuff with the like Marion Bronwyn versus Brittany thing, it feels just like a little bit strange to me because like I think that Bronwyn maybe maybe Bronwyn sees an opportunity to kind of have a target who is not one of these big OGs that she can kind of have a moment against Brittany without sort of having to step up and fight one of the big dogs. But it just isn't landing to me. Like Britney seems like somebody who, if anything, maybe we should like give her a little bit of grace because it seems like she's kind of been going through it for the last like, you know, 40 years or something. And I mean,

Mary just is like, God, the comment about the kids. It's, it's not good. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, another great episode, Whitney invites everyone to Milwaukee, which, you know, they're thrilled about. It kind of feels like a couple seasons ago, I think on The Bachelor, maybe on The Bachelor. I I don't know. They always go on like four different trips every season and they went to Cleveland. And when they announced that they were going to Cleveland, everybody was like, oh, my God, Cleveland. That's fun. That sounds exciting. Oh, we get to go to Milwaukee. Oh, Whitney got us a private plane to Milwaukee. That's fun. First of all, who's paying for the private plane? Because I don't think Bravo pays for private planes. I don't think Trixie Mattel is paying for Whitney's private plane.

Does Whitney have money like that now? Is Wild Rose Beauty and Bathbombs doing that well? Good for her. I wouldn't have guessed, but, you know, I'm excited to see this girl's trip to Milwaukee. Meredith might not be able to make it because she doesn't want to go to Milwaukee with Whitney, but we'll see. Just before I move on to OC, just the last thing. First of all, Meredith's scene with Seth where she tells him that she wants to get bot mitzvah. It was genuinely very sweet. He seemed emotional about it. It seems like something that she really cares about.

I thought that was great. I like seeing that side of Meredith. But the scene when she is in the kitchen with her kids, like in the lab, cooking up bath bombs wearing a fucking ski mask. I almost peed my pants. It's so ridiculous. And that she's doing this whole thing while she's telling us. the story about how Whitney, like, did her wrong. You just, you can't write this. It's,

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requesting it from her privately. I don't know exactly how this works. But now he has filed the lawsuit, which means that it is public information. It's in People magazine. Tamara calls Shannon when she sees it. And then Shannon butt dials Tamara. And so we hear this audio. We don't have the footage, but we hear this audio of Shannon, like, yelling through tears about how Alexis must have hired a publicist to put this thing to be public. And I, Tamara is questioning this. And I do, I do think that Shannon might be a little naive in that this is going to be public the second it's public. Like, it's going to be news. You know, for People magazine, this is their job.

People Magazine, TMZ, all of these outlets, they are combing through legal documents, they're finding things as soon as they're filed. Like, this is what they do. So is it possible that Alexis had somebody tip them off? Sure. Of course, it's possible. But also, like, I don't think the fact that there is a People Magazine story about it automatically means that Alexis was running a PR campaign behind the scenes.

We don't know. We'll see. Shannon is barely in this episode because we see her FaceTiming Adeline I think at the beginning of the episode and she's saying that she can't She feels like she's hit rock bottom She doesn't think she can go any lower

And then it literally is like later that day The lawsuit is filed She isn't in any of the group scenes This episode actually it's a little weird Because there aren't really any group scenes And then There's just this like half group dinner at Katie's house later in the episode.

And this is when the other sort of big shoe drops in this episode. And this is that we are starting to get the Ryan unraveling storyline. We're getting bits and pieces of it. Obviously, the big Shohay Otani stuff that is going to, the big revelations haven't happened. And I think those happened after they were done filming the main part of the season. So likely that's going to be at the very end. Tamara dropped some tidbits about this. FBI investigation situation. And she says that she's known about this for six months. And there's a

confessional where Emily kind of implies that she knows about this too. Obviously, Eddie knows about it. Tamara says that Jen 100% knows about it, even though she kind of plays dumb when Tamara like name drops the FBI. But this is interesting to me because this is something that I, I, I, knew that we were going to get here on the season, but I was not necessarily under the impression that Tamara and others knew about all of this investigation stuff prior to filming even starting for this season. So it's a little, it's a little surprising to me that we made it until episode, what is it, like 10 or 11 before we're even getting sort of the first bit of this storyline. But there is something, there's something a little interesting happening that it felt like this episode,

there was a pretty quick pivot to this, obviously the Ryan investigation stuff, but then also Ryan's issues with Eddie. And this is also, again, stemming from a podcast, we got to, we got to get a handle on these podcast comments becoming storylines on the show. Because I don't mind, I think there are great uses of like fourth wall breaking and outside sources. And I love, you know, a classic reference to a blog or, you know, the streets are talking or whatever. I don't love that whole storylines are, are hinging on audio from podcasts that happened, you know, sort of outside the cycle of the show. But I do, I do think it's interesting sort of in the mechanics of this season, that all of a sudden this episode, Ryan and Eddie are both heated at each other. And, you know, Tamara is mad at Ryan and all of this over these comments that Ryan made on a podcast about Eddie. And, you know, Tamara thinks about the business. That's, you know, under dispute and about parenting and all of this stuff. And I'm kind of like, why are we just now hearing about this? I guess the Shannon and Alexis stuff was

sucking up a lot of air. And, you know, there's just been kind of maybe big, fish to fry on this season, but it did feel a little bit like, okay, Eddie has barely been on this season at all. And Ryan has not been on this season much either. And so I kind of was like, what happened this week that they were like, okay, all of a sudden, this is going to be a main storyline. I do think it's interesting, though. I mean, I think that Ryan kind of seems skeezy. I don't, I don't think that like when he's at the confessional alone, which first of all, two much solo confessional time for Ryan. That's not what I watched this show for. I don't think that's what you watch this show for. I want a solo confessional from him where they're like

grilling him about his legal activities, but I don't need a solo confessional of him talking about Tamara and Eddie's marriage. When he says it's a sham and they can't handle seeing people in love and all of this, it's like, I don't think that that's true. You know, I think that Tamara is a strategic person. I think that she, you know, operates on a lot of different levels. But I don't think a sham marriage is really what people are thinking about it. I don't know. It's just a little weird. And then there's this other layer to it where Ryan reposted on his Instagram story, some reference to Tamara's son, Ryan. And then something about a dick pick that somebody shared of him like 20. It's just like, where are we going with this? I'm looking forward to sort of the

Ryan stuff and whatever is in this investigation from this house raid six months ago about the gambling. I don't necessarily need that to be like the focus of the show. And I did feel like this episode, maybe it was just like a little bit of a quiet point where they didn't have a full group thing and they didn't have a lot else to talk about. But I'm like, okay, we gotta get this tamped down a little bit because I don't want this to kind of take over the show. The other thing I want to mention that before I go is this moment with Terry and Heather at the beginning of the episode

when they get caught on the hot mic behind the door. I didn't think that Heather DeBrow would ever let herself get caught in a hot mic moment. But they're at this doctor's office. Terry is going to have a corrective nose job basically to stop his snoring at or whatever. But he has to get an EKG first to make sure that his like heart stuff is good. And they're talking about these issues with Gina and Emily that Heather keeps having and keep popping up. And it feels like a little bit squabbily. Like Heather's kind of talking over him.

They're going back and forth, whatever. And then you just hear Heather go, don't admonish me on camera. And he's like, well, don't talk over me. And it's, blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, it's, it's one of those things where it's not like they're having such a huge, you know, knock down, drag out argument. But it, the fact that Heather clearly feels a way about the way that Terry was speaking to her specifically on camera. That's the side of Heather and Terry that we don't see very often, that there is this facade. And I don't think that Heather is a super fake person. I think that, I don't think that their whole marriage. is a lie or anything like that, but that clearly they are presenting this image of themselves and that when Heather feels like that is not being portrayed correctly, she's going to say something. And normally we would not get to hear that. And this week we did. And I thought that was very interesting. And I feel like that's going to be a topic at the reunion. Because I feel

like other people in the cast are going to point to that as kind of a gotcha moment. And I'm interested to see how Heather responds to that. Because it was, it was, it was. was a look from her that we don't normally get to see. I think I'm going to leave it there for today. Two great episodes. I could go on and on. And I'm sure I'll talk about it about these shows so much more in the coming weeks. But for now, thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. You can follow us on Instagram at Bravo, buy betches. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All podcast is produced by Dylan Hafer and Bell Roman. Editing by Bell Roman,

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