Mention It All - Snakes In The Sand Ft. Sara Al Madani

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

Dylan sits down in-studio with Sara Al Madani to discuss her experience this season on The Real Housewives of Dubai. Sara shares her perspective on the show as an Emirati woman, and how her community has reacted to her being a Housewife. She breaks down the real timeline of her issues with Caroline Brooks, and why she doesn’t feel she gives unsolicited advice to the other women. Later, she discusses some devious dynamics within the group, and why she felt betrayed by Ayan once filming began. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All. A Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.

I am Dylan Hafer, and I am so excited to be joined in the studio today by another Dubai housewife, Sarah Almadani. Hello. Hi. How are you doing? You're in New York. You're living your best life. You're here.

You look beautiful. Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. New York is beautiful. And yeah, we came to get some work done and we did it. Survived it. I know. So we had reunion taping last week and then you've been here now for a few more days.

Has it been a little less stressful post-reunion? You're relaxed a little bit more? I mean, I was also relaxed during the reunion because I've never said anything. There's no receipts on me. I've never talked. I'm not a gossiper. But then what worried me was I know that some girls on the show will go the extra mile to create things just so they can be heard. So this was like, I was like, oh my God, how do I have a conversation with someone about a lie?

Like, I was like, this is the only difficulty I was going to have. Right. You're like, there's no way to prepare for that. So I'll just, you know, I'm going in clean slate. Exactly. Exactly. Whatever. If I mean, I feel like you can't really, if you can't prepare for it, it's not worth stressing out over sometimes.

No, it's not. You just go there, be your authentic self and just flow, you know, and fight for the truth. That's it. That's what I did. Is that how you've kind of handled this whole season of Housewives, the experience of being on the show? Because obviously, first season, it's a totally new experience. How have you enjoyed the last few months? Has it been stressful? I mean, every now and then, I sit down and say, what the hell did I sign up for? But then, when you look at the overall experience, It's just, it's fun. It's adventurous. You get to meet people. You get to build real friendships that people can witness them growing and blossoming on TV. So I was like, you know, if the universe gave you this, there's a reason. Just go for it. So I'm enjoying it.

I'm enjoying it. Yeah. Speaking about what did I sign up for, I want to talk about signing up for it because I'm sure that was, there was a lot that went into that decision. How did this kind of come into your life? how were you first kind of made aware that this opportunity was potentially happening? Somebody called me, that's it. It was a casting director, and I thought it was a prank, so I hung up.

And then when the person like proved to me that they're legit, it's real, and I was like, why are you choosing me? And he's like, we've been meeting so many people in Dubai. We've met over 100-something people. And he's like, we want you and we want you to do casting. And I was like, okay, fine. I guess it's because I'm probably the only Emirati woman who, like, has the guts to do something like that. Very rebellious, you know?

So I think they've done the homework. So I rejected in the beginning. I was scared. Yeah. Because it's against culture. It's against like what I'm used to. But then I was like, no, no, this came my way for a reason. I'm doing it.

Yeah. I was thinking about that because obviously you've talked on the show about wanting to sort of dispel some of the misconceptions about Muslim women especially and the culture in the UAE. And I'm sure that just doing the show in the first place was a big step in that direction of, you know, somebody like you agreeing to put yourself out there in this way isn't what people would expect. I mean, you said something so important. So three reasons why I did the show. Number one, I want to have fun.

Number two, I like taking new journeys and new experiences in life. Number three, and of course for personal brand growth and personal growth. Number three is, I think my religion, you know, Islam and my culture being an Arab, needs a huge PR campaign and someone to justify and explain everything. So I felt like, let me take that responsibility to address all the stereotypes and the misconceptions that are out there. And to show them that everything they heard about us is not true. And I am an example for them to see it. Was there any hesitation?

Like, did you know signing up to do the show that you would be the only Emirati woman? Or were you wondering kind of what the mix would look like? No, we did not know until everything was finalized. But once I knew I was the only Emirati woman, I was like, oh my God, the pressure. Like, no, everyone's going to think I'm representing, which I'm not representing the women in my country. I'm representing me. I am a byproduct of my country and my culture, but I am me.

I'm not trying to show you anything about how Emirati women are because there are so many shades of them. I can't cover it all. So, yeah, I mean, it was stressful when I knew it. Right. But I was like, you know what? Just do your thing. Did you get any kind of negative response from family members

or other people in that community who maybe were like, why are you doing this? it's not kind of the when the show was announced there was a huge backlash from the community and they were like these women don't represent

the Emirati housewife and I was like dude it's not a documentary it's a reality TV show it's light entertainment it's fun enjoy it and they're like

a lot of people were saying okay let them change the name of the show so we won't get confused I was like you cannot change a franchise name of 15 years and you know like hey Dubai wants to change it. It doesn't work like that. So obviously, I call them, I call it blind faith. It's like

there are a bunch of people that just listen to each other without doing the research and attacking. If you've done the research, you'll be embarrassed to say something like that because that's not what the show is about. Right. And I think one thing that has been exciting to watch with this show is that it's showing off so many different parts of what makes Dubai, Dubai. You know, it's not, it's, like we have you in the mix which I think is important but then of course there's people from all different backgrounds and you know like having Caroline Brooks who's from the US originally and you know Lisa with her Jamaican heritage and Ayan is you know it's it really does feel so different from any other I don't know where else you could put together a group like this but

that's but that's how the UAE is that's how Dubai is this is this is you walk in the streets. You see different cultures, different religions, different this. You see like a mosque somewhere, a church somewhere, and then like a temple somewhere. So it's embracing all cultures and religions and we all coexist together in peace, you know? So the cast is a resemblance of how the country and the population is in the country. That's how it is. Totally. Who did you kind of know in the cast before? Was there anyone that you were excited to me or maybe not not looking forward to spending as much time with in the group? No, because I didn't go in there asking about anybody.

I knew Nina for a couple of years. I know Caroline Stamberry. And Ayan, when I used to be a fashion designer, I used to hire her as a model for my shows. So that's the only thing I knew about her. On a personal level, I did not know Lisa or Caroline Brooks or Chanel. On a personal level, I didn't know them. Was it was it exciting to you to get to meet these people and know that you are going to be spending the time together?

Because I think it's a it's a pretty unique experience to know that it's like, okay, these three women that I don't really know socially at all now where everybody's going to be saying like they're friends. Yeah. I mean, it is exciting. But at the same time, because I'm a person that has done a lot of work on myself as personal, spiritual, mental growth. and I've done the healing. So it was also, part of me was scared to be dragged in a negative way into something that I've healed from. And I don't want to be in that place.

And then a part of me was like, okay, let's do it. Let's meet some girls. Let's have fun. Let's enjoy. So I had these two emotions go in me and my emotions were right. I did have fun. I did create friends that I would die for. But I did also get dragged into things that I would.

I didn't want to be dragged into and affected by people's negativity. Yeah. How much had you been familiar with housewives or Bravo or any of that before? Because obviously you're not, I mean, somebody like Caroline Brooks, 10 years ago, she was sitting at home in Boston watching on TV. Like you, obviously you're not coming from that background. No, I definitely, I will not deny. It's because I started business at the age of 15.

So I was never in front of the TV watching shows or cartoons or anything. So TV was not my thing, but growing up, I heard of it. Of course, everybody talks about the real housewives. And it used to play on like different channels. And I used to like, you know, see it every now and then, but I never watched this show. So I didn't know what I was signing up to. So that's how it is. But I love it.

And when I started doing it, a lot of the other housewives started being nice and introduced themselves and all that. So it is a beautiful community. but you have to always remember that you have to remain you regardless of anything. Yeah. I think that's important because I think we have seen women on these shows sometimes kind of lose themselves in the machine of what's happening. And maybe your values or how you interact with your friends in real life kind of can get lost a little bit.

And especially for somebody like you saying that you've done the work and kind of healed yourself, it's like you don't want to backpedal on all of that. because there's cameras and it's intense and somebody's yelling at you know like it's it's yeah i mean and i've said it to all the girls so many times over and over again i said i will not lose my ethics and morals so i can be famous or so i can be like a celebrity or a tv personality i was like people like me for me they don't i'd never water myself down i worked so hard of being who i am and this is i kept on reminding a lot of them because they did that mistake where they went off completely just for the sake of like, you know, being something.

Hungry for fame, basically. Yeah. Has it been strange to see people talking about you on social media and reacting to kind of what they're seeing on the show because, you know, just having that attention that's kind of outside of yourself? The thing is, I've always had that attention growing up because I've been in the limelight since I was young. But the kind of exposure I'm getting from the...

the show, it's like people insulting me and people hating on me on Twitter and all that. If I haven't done the work, I would have been affected, but it doesn't affect me. It's like you don't know me. Okay. So it doesn't bother me at all. Yeah, it's like you've got that little glass up. Yeah. 100%.

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Visit redbull.com slash bright summer ahead to learn more. See you this summer. So speaking about maybe getting dragged into stuff, obviously the situation that happened at that dinner at Caroline Brooks's house, I think watching it, it felt very surprising that it got to that place. because, you know, maybe obviously some people had feelings about how you were speaking about her son, but the level of intensity that was coming from her felt very unexpected. She overreacted.

And she apologized later, but she overreacted because she was triggered. And this is why when I sat in her house, I made it clear. I said, can I say something? You won't get, like, I don't want to offend anybody. and she said yes and I said I don't know anything about you and your son I made it so clear that I'm not judging you because I know nothing about you so and then I just told her you know based on boarding school you need to be closer with your son because boarding school is far you know I wasn't telling her to get closer to her kid right so yeah and then also when I told her you should go talk him in it's because when they said goodbye to each other she was looking at him with puppy eyes and I was like what if she wants to go upstairs but she has guests so So I said, you should go talk him in. Like, we're okay here. Don't worry about us.

So it was all coming from a place of love. The tone was a tone of love. The body language was like giving love. But I guess Brooks has been judged so much in the past because of what she's been through that she thinks I'm judging her as well. So she did not welcome it as love. She welcomed it as a judgment. And then when her friends started like throwing shade, this is where she lost it.

and she started fighting with her friends, and I tried to stop, I tried to stop the fight, and I got involved in it. Otherwise, me and her, we didn't argue before that. She was just talking back and forth to me. I'm not a yes friend.

I'm not a friend that's going to tell you what you want to hear. I'm a friend that's going to tell you what you need to hear. And I feel like if we are not making each other a better version of each other, then we should not be friends. Don't eat from my table if you're not adding anything to it, basically. Vice versa. So I'm the kind of friend.

I will not drink and party with you, but I will celebrate your highs and be there for your lows. So I was just there telling my friend, let's do more. I've overcame my generational cycle. You should do more. Let's be better. Let's be more. And the reason why I even came with that attitude is because in Ion's birthday in Shanghai, I think the restaurant, Brooke sat next to me and she told me, listen, I love your public speaking gigs.

I love what you talk about therapy. She said, I'm doing therapy and I want to be a better person for me and my kid. I want to be a better woman. And I want to sit with you more. So when someone says that to you, you think they're already open to a conversation of love and exchange and all that. So maybe I misread it. But I did learn something just because you're a loving person and you want the best for everybody. Not everybody's going to accept it.

And you have to just, you know, accept that. Yeah. I think that's an interesting kind of background because obviously I think Brooks and Lisa and maybe Ion have made comments on the show about how sometimes you would offer unsolicited advice or kind of, you know, stick in somewhere where your opinion isn't really wanted. And, you know, to say that you felt like she had kind of been open to that sort of deeper level with you, then it makes sense why. Yeah, that's why I came in with so much love. and I wanted to uplift my friend and show her how we can be better because we are both survivors. We've both been divorced. We've both been through abusive relationships.

So I wanted to show her that surviving can be beautiful. We're not victims, you know. So this is the kind of attitude I was giving her. And it was so much loving, but she didn't take it that way. But then we spoke about it. She apologized. I apologize. And we're really, really good friends now.

But I'll tell you something very important. The reason why the fight escalated to like a lot of episodes is because Nina was not the one that told me about Brooks calling her. It's Lisa and Chanel. They called me and they made it so much worse. They said she insulted me and she kicked me out of the house and all of that. And I was like, why would Brooks say that? Because I texted her the day I left her house in the morning and I was like, I love you. I think you're an amazing mom.

I didn't mean it in any way. I was just trying to tell you how me and you can be better at everything. We should not settle at where we are. We should be better. And then Lisa calls me and tells me this. But then I promised Lisa not to tell anyone. And I kept my word because I honor my words. That's why throughout the show you see me like being quiet and watching Lisa and

and Ayan in the desert give me advice. And I'm like, hold on Lisa. Wait, you're advising me while you were just butchering Brooks on the phone with me and telling me how bad she was to me. And I was like, just Sarah, be quiet. But then I realized this is where I should have spoken up and I should have like stood up for myself, but I didn't. Right. I think it's, it's tricky when you're on a show like this, the difference between a normal non-filmed social experience where you would, you know, you would have your disagreement. You know, apologies would be made. You would probably move on and nobody else would really be paying attention.

Whereas then on the show, this is turned into a moment. And if somebody can act behind the scenes and kind of like stir it up a little bit more, then it becomes a bigger moment. And that's on the next episode. And I think maybe people like Chanel and Lisa have that mindset a little bit more of like what's going to make the moment go to the next episode. I mean, to be honest, watching the show now, it's like I'm looking at Lisa and Chanel and I'm like, these are the girls I'm on the phone with all the time.

and I eat with on the same table and I share my food and I share my home and I've been a shoulder for her to cry on Chanel and I've been with her through her ups and downs. I was like, that is so weird. It's just weird. Either they're dying for attention

but I was just being genuine and that's what I got in return from them. But giving unnecessary advice is not what I do. Like never. Chanel had a demand and I gave a supply. Brooks had a demand and then I gave a supply.

I never advise Lisa. Like you don't see me telling Lisa anything, you know? Or you don't see me advising Caroline Stamberry because, you know, like she never asked for anything. Even Nina, it's just that Chanel calls me all the time and wants advice for work, for life, and I've always been there for her. I have messages. I have voice notes.

So it's like, I'm sitting there. I'm like, I'm preaching. Well, like, what are you talking about? And I think what bothered me the most about Chanel is you remember the episode where I told her it's never too late to be like me. So she went on interviews and she's like, who does she think she is? Why do I want to be like her? And in my mind, I was like, she's delusional because she, that day when she attended

Global Citizen, she attended my speeches. In between speeches, I couldn't have time to spend with her. So she told me, I wish I can be like you one day. Speak eloquently like this. On stage, your energy, the way you put your words, I want to be like you. But it's too late. I'm getting older. And that's why I didn't have time to reply.

So when I went upstairs and I told her, it's never too late to be like me. You can be even better. You can do this. You can do that. I was giving you advice about how to believe in yourself. Right. Like if you,

if that's a direct response to a conversation you already had, then to blast it out without the context. It's like, you know what I meant. She's victimizing herself. And then, you know, a good friend would have said, you know, guys, Sarah didn't mean it in this way. Me and her internally talked about things in the past. and she's just advising me.

A good friend. If I was there for you as a shoulder to cry on, you'd have my back as well. But when I saw her interviews, I was like, no, no, no. She wants people to sympathize with her. She wants to feel like a victim. I mean, go ahead.

You know, if the shoe fits where it's Cinderella, do whatever you want. But now I know who my real friends are and who I should not be friends with and who I should watch out from. I did like that episode that you guys were at the Global Citizen together. It was nice to see you.

That felt like a very, kind of like in your wheelhouse like that's what you do and it was nice to see that we were like i gave speeches we were together and she was like sarah preaches about kindness all the time you were at an event we spoke about nothing but kindness we were trying to solve world hunger we were doing all these things what am i going to tattoo on your arm iron maiden like it doesn't make sense of course i'm going to write kind on your hand but she felt like i was indirectly telling her you know you're not kind but people who are traumatized and they're they're not healed and they're still in the dark,

unknowingly feel like it's them against the world. So whatever you tell them, they feel like you're coming to get them down, you take them down. And this is what happens when you're not healed, when you have a lot of problems and you're not resolving a lot of them. You feel like everyone's against you. It's like starting fights out of nowhere and saying you are the best and you're this while nobody asked.

If there was someone given, how do you say it, unsolicited? Yeah, unsolicited. If someone get, if there was someone getting unsolidated things, it's Chanel when she's like, I'm beautiful, I'm this, I'm this. It's like, we're all beautiful. We're all equal. We're all women, you know? Yeah.

So, yeah. I'm just as shocked as the viewers are while I was watching the show. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's entertaining to watch, but I can imagine being her friend and expecting a certain reaction that then when it goes in a different direction, it's like. Yeah. I mean, another thing that was a shot, like a backstab to me. me and Nina in the back is when we were watching the confessionals.

And I remember she used to come, Chanel and Lisa would come to me and Nina, especially Chanel and they'll go like, listen, don't say anything bad about us in confessionals. My kid, Tudge watches the show and he gets traumatized and his feelings get hurt. Please don't do it. And we honor our word. We promised her we'll never say anything bad, even if we felt bad. And in confessionals, you see us like not talking about anybody. Right.

But then she was, and she's like, I never said anything bad about you. And then we see it. were like, hold on, hold on. This was a trap. It's because she wanted to sound like the smartest. Yeah. And the most like shadyest. So she, she lied to us, basically.

And it's almost, it's twofold because then, you know, she's saying bad things about you and you don't really go there. But then also people are watching the show and they're like, like, Nina's confessional seems boring. Like she won't say anything. And it's like, if that was something that she had, you know, if that was a conversation that you had already had and said, okay, like, I won't go there with you. It kind of, it almost is like setting you up for failure a little bit.

It is. And me and Nina, we sat together alone and I'm like, Nina, you know what? I'm upset with Chanel about some things. You're upset. I'm like, since she said her kid's going to be affected and Todd is a beautiful boy, he's amazing. I was like, I don't want to go there. And Nina's like, let's not go there. Even if we're upset, let's not go there, you know?

It's not like we were going to name drop or like say anything bad. Me and Nina don't swing like that. We are very classy when it comes to how we react to things. But it was like even if things she's done behind our back or to expose her in confessionals, I was like, let's not do it. Her kid's watching it, you know? But it was a lie. And then she butchered us both.

I know. Wow, we fell for it. I kind of felt for Nina with the situation at the engagement party with Brooks. I felt like she kind of got dragged into the middle of that situation. It wasn't her. Lisa and Chanel are the ones that told me. She was the last one that told me. me. And that's just not her, it's not her way of doing it to really get in the middle of other

people's. And I'm so sick of everyone saying Nina's boring. Nina's so gangster. She's so fun. You have no idea how fun she is. But I think it's selective participation where she gives some people her energy. Some people she don't because she doesn't feel safe with them. So, but she's crazy. She's fun. Nina's not right there. We had a great time. She's funny. She's funny. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session. And this summer, Prime Originals have everything you want.

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party, I assumed everyone would go to the wedding, but then Lisa and Brooks went to Ayan's fashion show. Was that like pre-decided? Did you know? No, I did not know. I just showed up. I think Brooks apologized to Caroline or something like that because I think I was there. That was the issue for Brooks. But then Lisa, of course, would go with her other pair. So they're together always. So I mean, the wedding was beautiful. To me, I love Caroline Stanbury so much. She's one of my close friends as well. And her husband is just so genuine and kind. Surger's like a brother. And if you don't know Sergio, Sergio, he wears his hearts on his sleeve and he's so kind to everyone. He's so sweet.

And he is such an empath. He brings out a sight of Caroline that Caroline never knew exists in her. Because Caroline was told to be stoic all her life and to not sure her feelings. But Sergio brings out that. And sometimes you see Caroline sitting down and opening up and showing her feelings and being more affectionate. Like we have a WhatsApp group and I tell all the girls like the four of us, the two Caroline's and Nina. I say, listen, every time we stop talking, we have to tell each other we love. love each other. It took me two weeks to make them all say we love each other. They felt it's weird.

I was like, we have to express love. Love is beautiful. And then Caroline Steinbury started saying it. And she's not used to it. And I think all of this comes from her relationship with Sergio, because he's showing her life like she's never seen it before. I think people have been a little harsh to them like watching the show. And I mean, maybe sometimes like there are moments that are, you know, a little bit funny or cringe or whatever, but I think you're right that it does feel like he's showing her a different kind of

way of seeing the world and that's exciting. And if she's happy and enjoying it, then like, that's amazing. I always tell them what makes you happy shouldn't make sense to anybody. Who cares about everyone and how they're looking at the age gap? So it's okay for like a 50 year old man to marry

a 25 year old girl, but it's not okay when it's the opposite. I don't understand. Like age has nothing to do with what you guys have in between you both. And you've been together for years, almost four, five, six, I think seven years or something. So you've been together for years and you've built something together.

You know, own it. You know, and I, what I don't like is how people attack them for being together all the time. It's because a lot of women are used to, you know, I call it toxic masculinity. They're used to their husbands, never being there, always with their friends. Their relationship is only when they both go home

or their date date night once a week. But he found a friend in her. He found a best friend. He found a sister. He found a wife. He found everything in one person. And he feels fulfilled. What's wrong with that?

There's nothing wrong with that. I know a lot of women want that, but I don't get it. So that's why I feel like there's a lot of hate. And if only you get to spend time with both of them, their love is so beautiful. So beautiful. And very inspiring.

Yeah. Inspiring. What's your take on really? I'm dating, all of that. I have no idea. I've been single for years. I mean, look, I've been married twice, wrong decision on both times. Very toxic relationships, narcissistic relationships, abusive.

But you know what? It takes more than two men to make me give up on love and give up on humanity. And I'm never going to say there aren't any good men in the world. There are nine billion people in the world, you know? And I'm not giving up on that. I'm looking for love. I'm looking for my other half because I feel like love inspires you. And what I hate a lot nowadays is I see a lot of people advising or preaching saying,

we're better off alone. We don't need a man. I hate those kind of advice. I hate it because you are robbing us humans from one basic instinct, which is to feel the feeling of belonging, to want to be with someone, to feel appreciated and loved. and why are you trying to take that away from people and ruining it for them? No, I don't want a man.

I need a man. I am independent, but when I come home, I don't want to be independent. I want to be next to someone I can open up with, depend on, and live life with and grow up with. So I do not believe in, let's be alone, let's take over the world, girl power. No, there are things we cannot do the men can do and vice versa. We complete each other. We don't compete with each other. So I love love and you'd see me looking for it till the day I die.

Has anyone else in the group tried to set you up with any? Oh my God, don't remind me so many of them on daily basis. But it's like, no, no. You know, I need someone deep and spiritual and I need someone who's kind and loving. And the girls are like, but he's rich. I'm like, but I don't care. I don't care about money, you know.

I feel like if two people really love each other and they inspire each other, they can become rich together. So it doesn't matter. Like money is, okay, it's a cherry on the pie, but I don't want to be with like a man who has zero affection just because he has money. I don't care about these things. I go way deeper than the surface. Yeah, it's like money is nice, but I'm not going to, you know, drop everything.

No, never, never, no. Especially because you, I mean, you're an established woman with a career and with, you know, a family and all of this. It's like, you're not. Yeah, like, don't impress me with your money. I can do all of the things you do. for me by myself. Give me something I can do. You know, give me something I've never experienced. Give me, because I know, I know what love is because I've given love. But do I know how,

how it feels to be loved? No, I've never. I've been used and abused all my life by men. So I don't know how it feels like to be loved and cherished. And, you know, like for a man to take care of you and be there for you. I don't know how that feels like. Do you think you would ever leave Dubai? I don't mind. I mean, look, look, I was living in L.A. for a while and nothing compares to the safety of Dubai. But if, let's say, I had to travel and move somewhere because my career can grow there

or I fell in love with someone that can't move here, I don't mind moving. We're not trees with roots to the ground. I love my country and I cannot imagine living anywhere else, but if push comes to shove, why not? You could do real hostways of Beverly Hills. I don't mind. Take me anywhere.

I think that would be exciting. I mean, you never know what the future holds. I mean, look, although I feel like all the women on these shows, they've, you know, you take time out of your life to do this, right? So all these women on these shows, whether they're loved, hated, I don't know most of them, but I have so much respect for them for putting up and doing this for so long and maintaining it. So I have nothing but respect for all the housewives.

Totally. Is there anyone that you've connected with that has been helpful or supportive in? in a particular way. I mean, so many of them reached out. They were so kind. It's like, you know, they're welcoming you into the neighborhood. Yeah.

But I've heard so many good things about Fedra from Brooks. And when I watched the episode on the show, I was like, I wish I was there. She's so funny and she's so much fun. I mean, she has energy. So I would love to meet her. I'm excited about meeting her. Okay.

I mean, you know what people are saying she might join the show next season? You never know. I saw that. She said she wants to buy a house in Dubai, so. She's more than welcomed. I mean, she will do so well on the franchise. We'll have so much fun with her if she joins, really.

And I've heard her say, I've heard a lot of people going back and forth on Twitter that she said she'll bring the ratings up and stuff like that. I mean, look, you cannot deny who Fadra is. You cannot erase her history and say, oh, you can't do that. You're nobody. This is Dubai. No. If Fadra comes, she will uplift us in some way because it's like, you know, we have a band

and like Jennifer Lopez joins us to sing once. You cannot deny the power she brings, you know? So I have nothing but respect for her. If she wants to join, she's more than welcome. She's funny. At least she will filter the bullshit, you know? I'll tell Fadra, you compared her to Jennifer Lopez. That might win you some points.

She's sweet. She's funny. You'll have to make some connections at BravoCon this fall. I'm excited. I spoke to her over Instagram and I said, I can't wait to meet you. She said, me too. She's really kind. She's a nice person.

But what I like about her, heard I heard that she doesn't let people get away with bullshit. And I think the Dubai one needs someone like her because there's a lot of bullshit. You need somebody to come in with a broom and sweep it out. Just sweep it out. Yeah. Clean it up. Yes.

Indeed. Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, maybe on the radar for for down the road. That's. Why not? Yeah. Well, Sarah, this has been so lovely. Thank you.

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