Mention It All - Starstruck In Miami & Miserable In San Diego Ft. Taylor Jackson

Episode Date: December 12, 2022

Still a littler ragged from a very important trip to Miami, Dylan is joined by professional plus-one Taylor Jackson, and they break down what it was like to attend the RHOM premiere party. Which house...wife finally left Dylan starstruck? Later, they catch up on the RHOSLC trip to San Diego, where Jen’s verbal attacks resurface, and the friends are still desperate to secure their snowflakes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We'll go check me, boo. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I am Dylan Hafer, and today I am excited to be joined by my friend, my co-worker, my Bravo buddy, Taylor Jackson, who has just recently returned from a little trip to Miami that we took last week, which we were going to get into. But first of all, hi, Taylor. How are you? Hello, Dylan. Thank you so much for having me. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I'm not in studio, but you kind of ran me to the ground on this Miami trip. And I am feeling the repercussions for the past four days. So now we're here. We had a hot and dirty, 43 hours in Miami. We went to the pool. we went to the club and we went to the Real House of Miami Season 5 premiere party, which was, it was a good party. It was an amazing party.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I keep thinking about it. Like there wasn't one flaw of the party. I can't think of anything. I think I had about 18 spicy margaritas and it was called Birkin on the beach, right? Yes. Me and Dylan were slugging back them, Burkins on a beach, living our best life. the girls, I was never like a Miami watcher of the Housewives. But now this season, I think it's giving everything.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And these women are literally perfection, like in person. I was like kind of blown away, weren't you? Yes. It's, I mean, even before one of, I think, the best looking casts on Bravo, best dressed casts on Bravo, they always turn up. They always show out. But every one of the ladies, all nine of them, were at the party. We weren't sure if Larsa was going to be in attendance because she,
Starting point is 00:02:36 a lot of the time when they invite you to something like this, they'll say like what talent is going to be at the event. So you know, because you're like covering it. And it was everybody in the cast, but Larsa was on this list. And so I'm like, oh, like I, I feel like maybe she will show up or maybe she's out of town. I don't know. Larsa was there. She was there. Larsa. Okay, this is weird because people always ask me if I get like starstruck to meet housewives or if I, you know, how I feel interacting with them because obviously I've met a lot of people on Bravo shows. I've interviewed housewives. It's not like so out of the ordinary for me to be in the presence of a housewife at this point. You know, right. It's a journey. But something about Larsa is like it's just a little,
Starting point is 00:03:28 it feels like she's coming. from a different plane, not even that she's like, not even that she's more famous than any of the other housewives, because of course you have people like Lisa Rina, Kathy Hilton, you know, you have people, right. A lot of the Atlanta women have, you know, tons of social media followers. Like, it's not like Larsa is the most famous person on Bravo,
Starting point is 00:03:51 but it feels like her sort of fame orbit is just in a different place because she's in that, like, Kardashians, very tabloid culture realm and then coming back to Miami coming back to housewives and we're at this party with her and she's in her you know little sparkly silver dress that just kind of like hangs right off her back and she's she's little she's petite she's teeny tiny the glam is on point it's like she looks like she just stepped out off of the face the face tune app like her face is like it's just it the glam is there and I will I will back this up because I have never seen Dylan nervous around anybody and we're standing there and he looks he looks he looks he's like
Starting point is 00:04:41 he looks like he's about to go ask someone at the sixth grade dance to have a slow dance with him he is like on his toes he's looking around I said I literally looked at him I said go go say hello he had to do like a second look around and like I could tell he was like pump himself up he's like okay and then he was off i actually have a video i have a video of the whole thing and you better put that on the page because i'm going to send it to you to be fair she was in conversation with her her plus one at the event which i don't she said that she is um you know dating but not in a relationship and that she is friends with marcus jewell I'm like, Michael Jordan's son was in my presence.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's so weird because she's talking to page six or whatever source about her relationship with this guy and how they're friends and how they hang out whatever. And then you see them at the party together. And like it's like when you see the thing. It's like when you see the thing that somebody is being talked about in the press for. and then you see it in front of your eyes, you're like, okay, am I, like, how am I supposed to process that? Like, is, am I, are we not supposed to talk about it? Are we? And I'm like, I feel like I can talk about it because I'm sure there were photos of them. You know, they were both there. There was not that big of a party. You could see everyone in the room. So I'm like, okay. I mean, and they didn't, they weren't like trying to hide anything. I don't think either. First of all, if
Starting point is 00:06:30 they were, they wouldn't have showed up together. Second of all, like, they were touchy-feely. Like, his hand was right on that, like, the curve of her back. Like, I saw that. I mean, they were giving couple. Right. I mean, it's not like they were, like, making out on the couch or anything. Like, it was not, like, anything PDA-ish.
Starting point is 00:06:46 But, like, they were there together. And, but it was nice. The thing about this party is that sometimes when an event is, like, too big or too public, they don't really feel as comfortable kind of living their, lives, but Alexia, both of her sons were there. Peter and I think Frankie maybe left after a little bit, but Peter was there, you know, she was there with Todd to like Marisol's husband was there who we know isn't, we don't really see on the show that much. Gertie was there with her hunk of man Russell. Right. They were spicing it up. Yeah, I know. It's, it was like, it was fun because I went to the
Starting point is 00:07:28 premier party for Ultimate Girls Trip in June in New York. And it was a lot bigger. There were a lot more people there. And they had set up this big kind of like VIP area for the girls trip ladies. And, you know, they're kind of like people were mostly hanging out in that area. And sometimes they would come out to like take some photos or say hi to people. But it was a little bit like, you know, you didn't have access to everyone all the time. Whereas at this party, it's like, oh, yeah, like, Nicole's just standing there. Go up and go up and say hi. Talk to her.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's what I liked about it a lot because I've been to events like this too, not so much like Real Housewives premiere parties, but it was so like intimate. And like who was invited was like they were like they were clear to be there. You know what I mean? Which I think makes a more comfortable environment anyway. Like they walked in like I don't know. It just felt very normal and they felt very down to earth as opposed to like I'm
Starting point is 00:08:22 envisioning Beverly Hills, uh, premiere party and like Erica Jean comes in for two seconds and she's gone. You know what I mean? They stayed the whole night. They were there just as long as we were. Right. They were partying. They were having a good time. Right. A lot of the Family Karma cast was there too, which
Starting point is 00:08:38 was really fun. I wasn't, I, it crossed my mind because I'm like, they live in Miami. They could easily be there. And yeah, Bali was there. Brian was there. They are so sweet. I don't, like, they are so sweet. Like, like, friendship level. Like I was like, Dylan, who was
Starting point is 00:08:54 that? And you told me. I was like, you would have never known because they just like are so normal and nice. I know. And then there were also, there were these two people there. One of, so it was this guy, Bo who, we, we're, okay, so we're with our friends, our Maggie who runs at best of Bravo. Was also there with her friend KK. We were hanging out the whole night. It was like a fun little group. We were staying in the same hotel. So we all were kind of like a little unit. And then we're standing. And this is at the point in the night where people were pretty much done taking, photos on the little step and repeat.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Like it was kind of empty. And then we look over and there's this man and this woman who are living their absolute life on the little red carpet. They're dancing on each other. He's smacking her ass. She's wearing the stimpiest dress I can possibly imagine. And I don't say that that's not a, that's not in any way like a commentary on her wearing that dress, it is simply a description. It was the tiniest dress I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Right. It was like, it was like, it was like basically hanging together by like chains on the side. Yes. No, literally. It's like two not, two like two place mats with some chains strategically in between one front, one back. Go off. And so we had no idea who these people were. Like nobody I mean, there were a lot of people there who watch a lot of reality TV. Not a single person was like, oh, that's so and so. So I find out later because I just took a video of them acting absolutely wild. I posted it and someone is in my DM. They're like, oh, my God, that's Bo from Big Brother.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I look this shit up. That is Bo from Big Brother who was on Big Brother in like 2006. And he didn't even win. It's almost 20 years ago. It's literally. So it's this guy who was on Big Brother, Bo, like 15 plus years ago. And then the woman, I forget, I don't even remember her name, but she was on the most recent season of Love Island USA. And it all makes sense.
Starting point is 00:11:09 As soon as you told me that, it all clicked. And it all makes sense. I'm trying to find, I don't even have this, like, I'm looking at Bo's Instagram. He has 21,000 followers. It's like, I love that you're just out here. I mean, he must, he's, the fact that he's still on a PR list right now for these types of things. honestly kudos to you. I mean, he is running the game.
Starting point is 00:11:30 You know what was cringe, though? So he was wearing this t-shirt and you know how there's like you can, there's just like a Balenciaga t-shirt where it just like, you buy the shirt, it says Belenciaga. He, so Belenciaga, obviously a little bit, a little bit of a touchy subject right now. Read the news. But not only, he's not wearing a Balenciaga shirt to the party. He is wearing a custom t-shirt. I have to imagine that says Bo Lensiaga, like his name Bo, B-E-A-U-Lensiaga.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I'm like, you're going, right now, you're going out of your way to wear a cute pun on the name of Balenciaga, who everyone else is like, don't wear that right now. Also, not even to mention the fact that you're the only person at this party. wearing a t-shirt. Literally. Everyone is literally cocktail chic, like whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Okay, obviously the self-awareness was not there. It wasn't there. They were almost giving me, they were giving us a little mini show.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Like, it was almost like free performant, a free performative act that we were witnessing. And this is us. This is me, you Maggie KK.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Sitting around the table, literally I have, for some reason, the cocktail waitresses and stuff would come around. And I would always somehow have a glass of champagne in my hand while also having a margarita. I couldn't say no when they gave me the champagne.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Anyway, we're all, like, sipping our champagne, just Deadbolt staring at these people. And when I say we're six feet away, were we six feet away, maybe even closer? Like, yeah. They must have known that, and I think they were almost doing it on purpose at that point, because it was, my mouth was like this. Dropped, by the way, my jaw was dropped. It was very influencers in the wild. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And Dylan put up the video of her, like, his bow smacking this girl's ass and writes, that's me and Taylor if we have one more drink. And it was just so true. I actually don't think we had another drink after that. We pulled the plug. Oh, we pulled the plug and then we went back to the room. And the nicest hotel we're staying at, literally the Nobu Hotel. What do we do? We're starving.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Okay. We order 40 McNuggets, me, Maggie, KK and Dylan. Four people. Yeah, we got like $60. Yeah, $60, $60. of McDonald's and that's how we ended the night because guess what we we we offer range Dylan we can go to these events and we can dress up and look classy and chic but at the end of the day I'm just a girl from South Jersey and that's that okay and I stay true to myself yeah it is always a
Starting point is 00:14:18 little bit humbling as a civilian with you know limited a limited normal amount of resources You, you know, you plan your little outfit. You get ready. You go to the party. And then you're taking pictures under bright lighting with people who have hired the absolute peak of hair makeup. They got the best tan, the best nails, you know, the best body. They're wearing designer, whatever. And you're like, we're going to look so cute in this picture together.
Starting point is 00:14:54 my eyes are like shut i'm like okay the lighting i do have to say was top tier the lighting was on point but it's like i have photos with Nicole and Lisa where i'm just standing between these two women who are like gorgeous glam creations you kept being you kept calling Nicole the one that looks like a Barbie
Starting point is 00:15:17 right yep she was a little Barbie she was i want it like a little pocket i'm like okay i'll i'll look I'll look cute too, I'm sure. Oh, stop. You did slay. Sleigh mama. Well, I'm so glad you were able to accompany me because, you know, you need a good plus one for every party. I am a great plus one for all those people who need a plus one.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You know, did you just get dumped? I'm here for that. If you just need a friend, a fun friend, I'm a good time girl, like Heather guy. Oh, Taylor. Don't, now you're saying desperate. Oh, shit. Really? You're like putting out a plea.
Starting point is 00:15:53 You're like, any event that I can get invited to, please. Okay, I'm not. Okay. All right. At least I'm not like going. Taylor will take. Taylor will take exciting invitations, but don't come to her with your basic ass, like, suburban wedding that you need a plus one for. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm not going to your fucking holiday party at like corporate USA America. Like, no thanks, babe. I only do premiere Miami two-day trips. Okay. Comfort plus. And that's at the bottom tier. And comfort. Comfort Plus, baby.
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Starting point is 00:17:14 And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope? It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic Speaking of going on a little trip We're going to talk about Salt Lake City And these ladies are having a hell of a time in San Diego
Starting point is 00:17:36 So random This this San Diego trip I feel like it's something about it Is just not clicking into place Where it feels like nobody is On a trip Like nobody's having a vacation right now Everybody's they've taken
Starting point is 00:17:56 a flight somewhere and the dynamic is just exactly as bad as it is when they're in Salt Lake. I'm like, is anyone going to have one ounce of fun on this trip? The CEO of fun really should get it to motion after this trip, Ms. Meredith Marks. No, she tried her best. She did. Yeah. I mean, I don't think Meredith Marks is a great choice to be CEO of fun, but I also, I mean, I agree with the fact that I don't think anybody else would have done a better job given the circumstances. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:29 watching Jen scream at Lisa the way she did on that boat where she is just saying, she's repeating this kind of nonsense jumble of words of, go do that. Yes. Uh-huh. Do that. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:44 You're going to do that. Do that. And Lisa's like, I don't know. What's going on? What are we talking about? What are you mad at me for? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:18:54 And there's just. just, you know, the Jen kind of wall of aggression. There's no way to actually speak to her. And then four hours later, she does not remember that this has happened. Right. When she's sleeping on the bus, that part really sent me. That was hysterical. But yeah, when she was like denying it.
Starting point is 00:19:12 But it was one of those moments where, like, I guess it's just a typical Jen thing. I look at my phone for one second while I'm watching it. And then the next moment, like, nothing was really happening. Next moment Jen is nearly pushing Lisa Barlow all. the boat. I'm like, how did we get here? And for what? This is like a full,
Starting point is 00:19:30 I feel like it's just, Jen's, like, typical, as everyone knows, like her mechanism to, like, deflect clearly. Um, and she uses aggression, which just just doesn't, it doesn't hit. It does not come,
Starting point is 00:19:40 uh, does not come across well. Or when she, like, even when she poured, like, the drink on, um, Angie. Angie, Angie Kay, Angie Tate. There's too many Angie's on this damn show,
Starting point is 00:19:50 number one. Um, and she was like, what? It was funny joke. I'm like, babe, if my best friend came over and we weren't already like going completely feral ratchet at some party like pouring drinks on other people, I'd be pissed off too. No, the drink pour was bizarre.
Starting point is 00:20:07 The fact, it was one thing to say, oh my God, I got really heated. I didn't, I saw red. I didn't know what I was doing. That would be one thing. But for her to be so stuck in saying that it was a joke, it's like, on what level? Like nobody, nobody ever thought that was funny. You weren't playing around with her before. That was just so crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And then the fact that Angie is like chewing her out on the bus on the way to the boat. They're having this whole big argument. And then Angie Kay is like so fucking whipped by Jen Shaw that by the end of the day, she's back to defending her against, even against Heather, which Heather and Jen are friends. she's like, well, you know, she chose to stay friends with you. And Heather's like, who the fuck are you? Right. And by the end of this episode, we have spun it back around into Jen saying the only
Starting point is 00:21:05 person in the group that she can trust to have her back is Angie. And it's like, I still barely know this woman's name. I literally don't know her name. Like, is she Kay, Angie Kay, Angie Kay, Angie Kay, Angie Kay. Angie T. Angie, the other, Angie is not on the trip. right right um i wish she was why not just add another fucking fuel more fuel to the fire but watching jen and angie's friendship i was like so i was so confused if i ever went back and if i was on a tv show
Starting point is 00:21:37 and went back and watched this and that was how me and my friend were acting i'd be like we're not friends like blatantly i don't know it was it's so like toxic and just like bizarre to me like you said at the end of the dinner, now their best friend, I don't know. It was just like a whole, I felt like I was being thrown through many a hoops. Yeah, I think it's tough because knowing that Angie is so new on the show, obviously she doesn't have a solid place in the group. So she feels like she and Jen had this moment during the day, but she can't afford to not have Jen on her side. because then if she stops getting invited to shit, she's off the show.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And I feel like she's, it's like you can see the mechanics working inside her brain a little too obviously that it's like, okay, our fight was, our fight will make good TV. So that's a point in my column. But if she actually stays mad at me, then I'm going to get iced out of the group.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So I better suck up to her some more and like turn her against Heather when, before we can, came on this trip, Jen and Heather were like the closest ones in the group. It's so stupid. Right. Right, right, right. And it's just giving like, it's giving desperate to me. It's giving friend of desperate trying to get that. Do they hold snow globes? Snowflakes. They're in a snow globe. They're in a snow globe. Yeah, you are. Get it right, Taylor. Come on. They hold, they hold like fake CGI snowflakes. Who the fuck can hold a snowflake? It's like literally impossible.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Right. It's like the idea of holding a snowflake, it's like, it's cute. It's not realistic. At all. Like, come on. Like, stick with, okay, whatever. We're getting way off topic there. But Angie is trying so hard to get into that snow globe. And she's, and like you said, you can see the wheels spinning. But it's almost like, it's like that scene in SpongeBob when he's in the office. His brain, all the little sponge bob is like going crazy. Like, that's what the inside of her brain looks like for her. For her, trying to like make good TV and like stay on the show. She's like, she is just grasping for Andy Cohen's attention to give her that fucking snowflake. Yeah, it's, it's tough when you, in this cast,
Starting point is 00:24:00 obviously there's only five of them, depending what happens with Jen. Then there's only four of them. So obviously everyone is going to understand that there is room in the group for some new people. And it's like sharks in the water. The Angie's going to have a battle to the finish. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Like Angie Katzenavis isn't just going to not seize her opportunity, but then you end up with people. Like obviously to get a snowflake or to be worthy of being a housewife, you have to participate. You have to be bringing something to the table. But when it's coming from people that we don't really know or care about, it just feels like kind of know your place a little bit. And we see the same thing with Dana at the other side of the table. trying to also get involved with Jen and Heather because she's like, well, Heather, remember, you told me that if Jen were to ever give you
Starting point is 00:24:56 a friendship ultimatum that you wouldn't be friends with her. Do you remember that you told me that? And Heather's like, Dana, can you shut the fuck up? She literally looks at her, she's like, can you not? Like, who are you? Literally, who are you? And then she also brings the information that apparently Angie Harrington and her husband didn't want to publicly apologize because their lawyer and everybody
Starting point is 00:25:21 else on their team was like, no, you can't do that publicly because then you'll forever be associated with Jen. And I like that Jen is like, she can't comprehend why somebody wouldn't want to like release a public statement about her. She's like, but she was the one who started the Finsta. And it's like, yeah, Jen, starting a Finsta is wrong. Everybody agrees. that it's wrong, but it's not as wrong as your federal charges that you're going to maybe spend a decade in prison. Like, it's
Starting point is 00:25:52 levels to admitting you did something wrong. Right, right, right, right. And like, also, speaking of Jen and her finances, how is she, okay, when they go on these, these trips, and it's funny when Whitney signed it when Whitney was like,
Starting point is 00:26:09 yet again, another domestic trip because somebody can't leave the country. Like, it was just funny. But when Jen throws those parties, like an extravagant party with the dancers and the fire and the flame throws and all that's it. Who's? Who's money? Huh? Is it Angie's again? I, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I really always struggle with this because I know that there are certain things that production does pay for. Like, they're not paying for this house. They're not paying for their flights there. They're not paying usually for the like anything really on the trip. And so I know sometimes they'll say the thing of like, oh, I'm hosting this trip. And maybe they worked with production to help plan it. But it's not like hosting in the way of like I'm paying for everything. But on this one, they really are acting like it's this tradeoff between Angie and Jen.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And Angie's like, I love the fire dancers, but it's going to be awkward when I have to tell them they're not getting paid. And it's like, okay. But if you know they're, if you know they're not getting paid, then why would, wouldn't you step up to help out? Or like, I'm not even sure in my mind that was something that production would be paying for. So I'm like, are you fully just lying to make Jen look bad that they're not getting paid? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Well, that's one of her fucking storylines that she's holding on to is the whole Cherise party, which I have a lot of thoughts on because like I agree from both ends. But like when you offer to host a party at your house. Yeah. And like you're the one planning like you're getting all those like. spending all of this money, like either you and Jen do it together and you're sitting down at a table saying we want this, this and this, then I would be like, okay, Jen, like, she'll, she'd split the cost. But if you're offering to host an entire party and like orchestrating all like the bells and whistles, then you're paying for it too. Yeah, I, I agree. I think it could
Starting point is 00:28:07 go either way. But I feel like if there wasn't a clear, if there wasn't a clear, if there wasn't a clear agreement of who was paying for it, then hosting the party doesn't just mean allowing your home to be used for the party. If you're planning it and putting it all together, it's not out of question for me, out of the question that you would also be paying for it, even if it was somebody else's birthday. But all, but, you know, I do believe that Jen maybe isn't the best at paying people back for things because I feel like that's actually kind of a common housewife thing. Like on Atlanta, Shiree is like notorious for not paying people for stuff. This was a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Again, with another party last season of like they sent Shirean invoice. And she was like, I'm not paying for this. We didn't, we didn't agree on how much the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah was going to be. And so I don't know. I do feel like Angie Kay, I get maybe why she's annoyed, but it's like I don't actually, I think you might need to let this one go. If you can afford to pay for it, I think you're getting stuck with that bill. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:15 And then she also tried to make it like her housewarming party too, which adds a whole layer of like, okay, so this is your party. Whatever. Yeah. Then for sure you should be paying. If it was also your housewarming, then you're not, I'm not paying for somebody else to warm my house. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Exactly. Exactly. I don't know. It's just another storyline that I think she's like trying to make relevant or like, you know, It's she's she's right now in in the The trial and error of a friend of on this franchise. I think She's figured out her lane and right now She's off she's off the beaten path or whatever whatever the fuck do you think so they're going to be filming their reunion this week
Starting point is 00:29:58 Do you think all three friends of? Should get or will get a reunion invite? I think both Angie should just because they have been involved a lot of drama. But otherwise, I don't think it's necessary. I think they will be there. Do you agree? I think at least, at the very least, I feel like Angie Harrington kind of has to.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. And then probably Angie Kay. And then in a way, I'm like, I don't know if I need Dana at a reunion, but then also I'm kind of like, maybe just invite everyone see what shakes out. because like, like I said. Is Jen going to be there? I don't know. I don't think we know.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I think she. I fucking hope so. I think. I think there is a chance, but I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's a yes or I don't know if it's been decided. But I think there's a chance. People should be dialing in from prison or she in prison yet? No, she hasn't been sentenced yet, Taylor. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Her sentencing is on January 6th. Keep it straight. Happy 2023, Jenny, girl. No, but I think the thing is I went to our friend Evan and Danny's page six show last week that Meredith was at. I talked to Evan about this already. So if you haven't listened to that episode, go check it out. But Meredith wants Jen at the reunion because they've all filmed this show together that Jen is a big part of. And I think in terms of creating a good reunion, it works.
Starting point is 00:31:37 better to have everyone there. And like last season we saw Mary Cosby not show up to the reunion and they couldn't talk about a third of the things that really seemed important. So I think in terms of agreeing with like the ethics of Jen doing the reunion, it's complicated. But in terms of storylines and stuff, it would be better if she was there. Right. I mean, she's involved in basically all of it. I mean, it's a mega part of the entire season and franchise, obviously, especially if this is her last time, her last season as a housewife. And given, given everything that she has been dealing with this season, a lot of the drama has specifically been about people either choosing to stay friends with her or choosing to
Starting point is 00:32:20 distance themselves from her. And, you know, her getting her relationship with Meredith has been a whole thing, whether she's getting in the middle of Heather and Lisa, like all of that kind of stuff feels really relevant to Jen specifically. And if she's not there, then it's going to kind of feel hollow to even talk about it. Right. Exactly. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:32:41 She does love a, she loves a reunion look moment. So I think if she is going to show up, she's doing it strictly for the look, the reunion look. Maybe she'll do like a bedazzled orange jumpsuit. That'd be kind of cute. And like, she might as well, like, listen, we all know. We all know what's going to happen. She's being sentenced on the sixth. play into it, babe.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Just play the part at this rate. Yeah, I mean, that would be kind of iconic if she did like a prison themed reunion look. I kind of love it. Well, I guess we'll see when they, when they film, so they're filming next week, you said the reunion. This week, yeah. This week. The looks like leak that when they're filming, correct?
Starting point is 00:33:27 I feel like that's what it is. Or is it like a week after? Usually they try not to. Usually it'll be like in a week or two. Okay. All right. So we'll know by then if she's there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like it'll be hard for them to really keep secret because I think they're filming it in New York. So usually you kind of can put the pieces together of like, oh, this person's posting from New York. But maybe she'll do what she did with BravoCon and like show up in town but not actually
Starting point is 00:33:56 be there. I was invited. Wait, really? She did that? She was in New York, but she didn't go to BravoCon. Yeah. Yeah, she was like at the hotel where all the housewives were staying, like hanging out. Why?
Starting point is 00:34:08 Why? Why? Because what? I mean, she's about to spend possibly several years with getting very little attention behind bars. If she can show up to, you know, the Gansworth Hotel and like have a good ass time and get some, get some attention. She's going to do it. True. True.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And you know what? Wouldn't you? If you had pled guilty to your fraud charges and you were awaiting sentencing, would you not take the opportunity? Oh, no. I would go full like Paris Hill in late, like early 2000s party mode for sure. You're right. You're right. You're not wrong.
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Starting point is 00:35:53 I often propose new Bravo TV shows, spin-off shows. Oh, God. Well, I have a new one. Hit me. Inspired by the ANGs, Angie versus Angie. It's going to be the friends of mixed with WWE. And we take all the friends of every Real House Five franchise, and we put them together.
Starting point is 00:36:12 like a big wrestling match and I see a lot of profit from that Bravo if you're listening lots of sponsorships you know a fight you know how like all these boys love like tuning into fights and it's like behind a paywall
Starting point is 00:36:24 this could be it this could be Bravo after dark you know who I think would do really well who Barbara Kay Barbara Kay from New York a few seasons ago Oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:36:38 she ran for mayor She'd come in with her power tools. She's like, I'm a builder, bitch, and I'm going to break you down. See? See? And they could all have their little, um, their cute little, like, fighter names
Starting point is 00:36:54 and their cute little taglines. And we could be like a cute, like outfit moment. Um, but they just beat the shit out of each other. And whoever wins gets the, um, and like instead of a trophy, like if it's New York, here's an apple. If it's Orange County, you know what I
Starting point is 00:37:12 mean? Wow. This could be good. What would we call it, though? Top of your head. What's the name? I don't know. Friend of fighters. Friend of fighters. Friend F-O-F. The F-O-F. Okay, I love this. Wow. Coming 2023 to Peacock. Right. I feel like they would buy it. Peacock is also Peacock is one that threw the Miami party and they've got their shit together. Thanks, Peacock. Seriously. Thank you. So if you're interested, again, DM me. Have Peacock's people call Taylor's people and then we'll get it pop in. Right, right, right, right, right. I'm kind of busy. Well, now that you've dropped up that brilliant idea onto our laps, before we go tell people where they can follow you. You can follow my journey through life on my Instagram at Taylor Jackson, T-A-Y-L-A, Jackson with two ends.
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