Mention It All - Sutton’s Cursed Sisterhood Circle (And More RHONY Problems)

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Dylan is back with a double Housewives recap, checking in on RHONY for the first time in a while before moving to the greener pastures of Beverly Hills. On the RHONY trip to Puerto Rico, the season continues to veer off course, with another prank, a pointless feud, and little else to talk about. Over on RHOBH, Dorit and Kyle go back years to the roots of their fallout, while Sutton attempts to bring everyone back together with a speech. But amid all the obvious tension, is this season really delivering? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents. Ha ha, laugh, funny. Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast.

It is Wednesday. It's December 11th, and it is like 60 degrees and rainy in New York City, which is just simply not the vibe. I want to be having a holly jolly Christmas time, and right now I feel like I am. I'm stuck in some sort of like slightly cold but very humid nightmare. Speaking of nightmare, we are going to talk about real housewives of New York City today. It is the first time maybe in like a month that I've talked about New York in real time.

I think actually maybe the last episode I really properly talked about was the pregnancy prank episode, which really feels now like the turning point where we went from kind of like lightly bad, to crisis mode. And I don't think it's gotten much better. But I did kind of, you know, I feel like Luann, like I've, I've been traveling, I've been to prison. Like, it's been a, it's been a busy month. And so partially I haven't talked about it because I didn't want to. And partially I haven't talked about it because I feel like other stuff has come up. I mean, Beverly Hills being on the same night as New York has sort of shoved New York, you know, squarely to the back burner. But we are going to talk about it today because I think we, you know, it behooves us to check in a little bit, even if you have not kept up watching New York. I am here doing the hard things, doing the work, putting in the time, putting in the effort. And I have some notes, we're not going to like spend, you know, an hour on it. Don't worry. I don't hate you that much. But I think, I think it's worth checking in on. Of course, we're going to talk about Beverly Hills as well. But we are, we're really getting to the end of the year. Next week is going to be our last week of episodes for the year.

We're going to be off a little bit for Christmas for New Year's. I just want to, I want to put out the call now. I think next week I want to do some kind of end of your wrap-up, listener questions, listener thoughts, questions, comments, maybe go light on the concerns. But I am going to, I'm going to put out on Bravo by Betches, like a couple of those question boxes so you can submit stuff. But always feel free to DM to leave a five-star review with your questions or your comments. And we're going to be putting some of those together for some episodes next week because I feel like we can't let the end of the year go by without sort of taking stock of where things are, even though there is a lot to talk about still.

I mean, I still haven't even gotten to talk about sold on SLC, which started last week. Southern Charm just premiered. That's on Thursdays. So I'm sort of figuring out where that's going to go in the schedule on a weekly basis. But yeah, I mean, Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, Potomac still all happening. Married to Medicine, that's still on my list to talk about. Really a lot going on. I've also been watching a lot of movies.

It's the time of year where there's a lot of fun stuff happening. Obviously, everybody watched Wicked. I'm a big fan of Moana, too. I got to see on Monday night, I got to go to a screening of this movie called Better Man, which is going to be out. I think some theaters, like on Christmas Day, and then in January for the rest of the country.

I don't know how these things work. But it's a musical biopic of Robbie Williams, who is like a British artist who was in a boy, band called Take That in the 90s and then went solo. And the thing about this movie is like it's it's giving like Rocket Man, Bohemian Rhapsody, like the format we've all seen before, except for in this movie, Robbie Williams is portrayed as a CGI ape. Everybody else in the movie is a real person and he looks like he's like one of the apes

and Planet of the Apes. It's like there's always that, um, that like Twitter prompt that goes around that's like, if there was a movie where it was like everybody was real people and then one person was a Muppet, like who would be the Muppet, that's what Betterman is like. And you guys, I went into this movie with zero expectations. I knew almost nothing about Robbie Williams. This is not an area of expertise for me. I knew like his one song, Angels, mostly because Jessica Simpson covered it in the early 2000s.

I'm sad and whale Are so angels Got to be in my That song, a classic This movie, I'm telling you, is phenomenal. I was bopping in my seat. I cried, I laughed, I had a great time. This is truly so random for me to be talking about

on this podcast. I talk about movies more on my own Instagram, so if you want to follow me there, that's kind of where to go for the movie content. But I don't know. I just was having fun. And Housewives, I got to say, it can feel like a slog sometimes. And that brings us to New York.

I feel like I am being a little mean. But I think it's kind of, I think they kind of deserve it. This season of Roney has just gone from something that I wanted to be optimistic about. And I wanted to give them a chance. And it felt like they were really giving them a big push again this season. And I was, I would say like, you know, net positive on last season. for the most part. And it just has, it has spiraled into this place of like, what truly, what are we doing here?

Who is this for? And I, you know, if you have listened to me, you know that I am not the kind of person. I'm not the kind of housewives viewer who gets off on just hating everything. I try really hard to give everything like a fair. I feel like I'm pretty generous a lot of the time with my opinions. You know, I'm not out here just like dragging people for clout. I don't know if it would get me clout if I did. Maybe I'll think about that in the new year.

But like I really feel like I try to, I try to take things as they come and get what I get and get as little upset as possible. But what are we doing here? You know, this week, the ladies are headed to Puerto Rico. I always love a trip. You know, I think cast trips, especially the bigger ones where they're going somewhere, Puerto Rico's not international, but somewhere, you know, fun in the sun on the beach, whatever. It's not like they're just popping to the Hamptons for a couple days. I think that trips are sort of like the easiest thing to get a pretty good grade on, on Housewives. because so much of the heavy lifting is sort of wrapped up of all the logistics,

of all the who's meeting who, what's the setup, who's having the party, all of this, you're just on the trip together. You're at the house, you're staying together, you're going to dinner together, you're waking up together, you're doing activities together, all of the kind of logistical effort that goes into the season, on the trip, you don't really have to worry about it that much. Now, that's not to say production is putting in so much work on these trips. And that is something where, like, these trips don't just happen.

You know, like, if it's Raquel planning the trip to Puerto Rico, I'm doing the biggest air quotes you've ever seen right now, production is putting together every single meal, every single activity. You know, it's a huge undertaking. But the women kind of just have to show up and do their jobs. and the jobs right now are just not being done. It's like when people are like we don't need influencers, we need electricians, like go learn a trade.

Honestly, on New York, we need some skilled craftsmen of house wifery. And it feels like right now we just don't have, we don't have enough tools in the belt. Tell me why. Rebecca Minkoff has been giving us fucking nothing all season. Zip. Zip. Zilch Nata. I haven't had a thought to spare for Rebecca Binkoff. I don't think she's interesting

on the show. I don't think she's really funny on the show. The whole pregnancy prank I found baffling and, frankly, offensive. The Scientology stuff is really hard for me. And I think the way that she has handled that or sort of not handled it on the show is also disappointing, if not predictable. I do feel like this episode, though, all of a sudden, Brin has decided that bitchy Becky, boring Becky, Becky with the good hair, is going to be her kind of enemy number one. And the way that she goes about it is like so off that all of a sudden I'm like, don't make me take Rebecca Minkoff's side. When you're making the little digs about Nordstrom Rack and all of that, I am on board.

Look, there's nothing wrong with carrying a Rebecca Minkoff bag. I'm not Lisa Barlow. I don't fly coach and I don't wear coach. That's silly. It's fun. It's lighthearted. It's fun shade. Whatever.

And Rebecca honestly seemed to take it in stride. But to act like this whole thing about not understanding. when you don't have kids. The first time I sort of, I was like, let's be real. I was half paying attention to this. I think I watched the episode on 1.5 speed. That is the one thing. I, you know, not to, I know talking about screeners is annoying, but one thing I love about

the screener platform that Bravo uses is that you can up the speed. And sometimes we've got to get through these things a little quick. So I'm watching this. And I'm kind of, you know, I'm working on something else. I'm taking some notes. I'm watching. You know, I'm very committed to this job. Don't get me wrong. But I'm watching. And I sort of am like, oh, I don't love that Rebecca was just like you wouldn't understand because you don't have kids. Because I do feel like that is something that people say that is a little bit thoughtless about somebody else's journey. And we already know that Rebecca might be prone to that because of this pregnancy prank that we had a couple episodes ago that was so, you know, ill conceived. And I'm like, brain is somebody we've seen her this season talking about really wanting to have kids. And she has these frozen eggs.

Is she going to do a surrogate type of thing? She's talking to her ex-fiancee about whether they would have a kid together and co-parent. She's actively in this mindset of trying to figure out sort of what having kids can look like for her. So when Rebecca says that, my first thought, you know, not paying that close of attention is like, yeah, that is. yeah, that is kind of fucked up. Becky, bitchy Becky walking into the Puerto Rican villa swinging her big ass fallopian tubes. Brin's word, not mine. I have no thoughts on Rebecca Minkoff's fallopian tubes, just for the record.

But then it's like you take a step back and you're like, no, Rebecca's literally talking about not wanting to share a bed because when she's at home with her numerous kids, I think she has like three. I don't know. I'm not checking for her kid status. But like that she doesn't often get to just lay in a bed by herself and like enjoy that because she has kids. And Bryn, I don't know if Bryn is like deliberately misunderstanding what Rebecca's saying or if she is like so. And I could more understand this. If she is so locked into this idea of like I want a kid and that might be difficult,

for me that any sort of mention of not having kids then is kind of triggering and upsetting. That, I think, could be valid. But Bryn just like sees red right away. And then for the rest of the episode, essentially, can't listen to Rebecca, can't take a step back and sort of, you know, process what she actually was saying, which was a simple matter of like, I have kids that are always in my bed, 24-7, therefore it would be nice for me to have a bed to myself. And Bryn takes it as this, like, weird dig about her not being busy. And it's like, that just wasn't what it was. And should Rebecca maybe have framed it in a different way? Like, maybe that literally just the thing of saying, you'll understand when you have them is a little bit flippant and a little bit, you know,

not the best way to say that. But then it's the whole episode. And it's like, this is not that. deep. So good, so good. Everything you want for summer is at Nordstrom rack stores now and up to 60% off. Stock up and save on the brands you love like Vince, Sam Edelman, Frame, and Free People. Join the Nordi Club to unlock exclusive discounts, shop new arrivals first, and more. Plus, buy online and pick up at your favorite rack store for free. Great brands, great prices. That's why you rack.

Girl, Winter is so last. season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders. That perfect hang on the patio sun dress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear up on that envelope. It's time for a little in-person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic. Bryn Whitfield, I love you. But another prank?

Another goddamn prank? Didn't we just do this? Actually, haven't we just done this like six times? And the prank isn't even good. Hiding Jessel's suitcase under a cabinet in your bathroom next to the bidet, like wrapped in a towel. And it's the suitcase that Jessel says has like her passport. and her shoes.

And this is one of those pranks. And first of all, at this point, ladies, I don't want to see any fucking prank. It's a wrap on pranks. We're done. But particularly this kind of prank where it's like designed to make someone upset. This is not a prank where it's like, oh, you put a fake turd on someone's seat. And for one second, they're going to be like, blah, that's so gross.

The cockroach in the Pavlova earlier this season. Like that's a five-second prank. It happens. It's funny. And then it's over. Maybe somebody's like a little peeved. But at the end of the day, it's like that was like a silly goofy thing to do. Hiding someone's important belongings to the point where they think that they may have been like fully lost or like didn't make it on the plane or something like that's just like kind of it's like more of a mean-spirited prank.

And the fact that these women in such a short amount of time have been able to cover so many different unfortunate bases with their pranks is like, was somebody telling them to do this? And this is where I kind of have to wonder in terms of production. I don't know who's working on this show. You know, obviously producing a show like this is a lot of work. I'm sure they're doing their best. but like when it's happening over and over again, I'm like, how much are Bryn and Aaron and Rebecca Minkoff really like sitting down and concocting these things on their own?

Because they might be, but also I could see a world in which, you know, Bryn is talking to a producer about, you know, ideas for this trip or, you know, how this trip is going to go. And whether it's Bryn's original idea or whether it's, it's a producer's original idea, the thing I'm like, oh, wouldn't it be funny if we, if we just put, yeah, she would freak out and it's right next to the bidet. So that would be funny because she's going to think there's like, you know, poop crumbs in her suitcase, like all of that. Whether or not it's, I believe that a producer either came up with it or told her it was a funny idea and that she should do it. And I think it's sort of like, it's like negligent at this point.

It's malpractice almost. I don't know why I'm using like, you know, words that doctors get sued with. But like, we have to stop it. Even Andy said he doesn't like the pranks. I don't know if he commented on the one last night. The one last night was just like so stupid. The pregnancy one is still the worst because that was like a storyline. This at least we got like some laughter out of it because it was funny when when Bryn and Rebecca are in the middle of yelling at each other about, you know,

not having kids or not being busy or whatever. Jessel's just like poking in her head and being like, has anyone seen my, has anyone, has anyone seen a suitcase? A little cream suitcase, same side of, no? Okay, I need to suit. It's a little less funny in hindsight because you know that Brin's ignoring her

because she actually does know where the suitcase is, but like in the moment I did laugh. but like, that's it. It's the only time I laughed. It's the only time I laughed. I also, the Uba and Aaron issues, disagreement, feud, whatever you want to call it, it's landing a little weird for me. And I mean, to be fair, I think most of the conflicts in this group don't land perfectly because I'm just not that invested at this point.

and I'm not sure how invested they are. But I believe, I do believe that Uba and Aaron's anger and frustration with each other is real. I believe that they are having a difficult time getting along with each other. But beyond that, it's like, what are they actually arguing about? because Uba has been telling people that she thinks Aaron has a problem with her and that she's a gaslighter and all of this. And then Aaron is mad at Uba for calling her a gaslighter and for talking about her. And then Uba's mad at Aaron for talking about her, talking about her.

It feels like we are just kind of in this like argument. loop where nobody's actually saying anything of substance and they're just kind of, it's like, I didn't say that. No, I didn't say that. No, you didn't say that I didn't say that. No, I said that you said that, no, you were saying that, no, you told her. No, I heard that you told her. And it's like at a certain point, ladies, what are we doing here?

And they have that talk in this episode in Puerto Rico where they're like, I love you and I love you. So let's just, you know, let's not talk about each other and let's not have blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then Uba, like 15 minutes later, let's just be real. Uba is she herself, the leaky pigeon in the group because right away, she's in the room talking about Aaron being, Aaron being gaslighter and Aaron being blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Aaron's like, what the fuck? we just talked about this. And while I don't, you know, I don't care that much about Aaron's, you know, deal and, you know, I don't think she's a perfect friend either. It is kind of like, Uba, what are we doing here?

If you can't go 10 minutes without talking shit about Aaron, then don't say you're going to stop talking shit about Aaron. Just say that you don't like her. And that, I think, is sort of a little bit where the issue is happening with this season is that it's not that there's no conflict. It's just that the conflict is revolving around dumb shit that doesn't feel rooted in anything. And it's revolving around pranks. And it's revolving around sort of like seemingly on-purpose misunderstandings like the Brin and Rebecca thing. and it's just frustrating. Meanwhile, Raquel Chevremont is still the most interesting person in the room,

but she's not involved in any of the conflict. And so, you know, I think Raquel is a really interesting addition to the cast, but when it comes to, like, being a real housewife, I can't say that she's really making that much of an impression. I more just want to hang out with her. I want to hang out with her and Mel and, you know, go to their, like, Butch Vogue party and have a good time and have a few drinks and laugh and hear about art. And, you know, I'm sure they have cool stories.

But I'm like, what is she going to talk about at the reunion? It's going to be a slog. This could be a watch what happens live reunion. Put them in the clubhouse. Give them 30 minutes. I don't know what we're doing there. All new drinks are now at McDonald's with refreshers like the strawberry water melon refresher. and the mango pineapple refresher with popping boba to crafted sodas like the Sprite berry blast with berry flavors and cold foam.

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Visit Red Bull.com slash bright summer ahead to learn more. See you this summer. Should we talk about Beverly Hills? Beverly Hills is not perfect this season. I saw our good friend Jared Alexander posted on Twitter last night after the episode. He was like, this season of Beverly Hills, the cast, it's not bad, it just feels a little bit off. It feels like there's something missing, like maybe something's not clicking. And I was scrolling through the replies to that tweet. And a lot of people seem to be echoing that sentiment that maybe there's, it feels like

there's a missing piece in the cast or that something isn't quite clicking or that there's just like there's not quite enough to sort of latch onto. And I do feel that. I think that they're, you know, comparing New York to Beverly Hills right now is apples and oranges, night and day. I mean, Beverly Hills has so much interesting material to work with, whereas, like, I just talked about New York for probably 15 minutes, but I feel like the majority of that was just me kind of explaining why it's not working for me. And I think for a lot of people, whereas Beverly Hills, I might have questions, I might have qualms, but I don't have. real, you know, negative, harsh feelings about this season. This week, they are still on their trip to, it's not San Diego.

It's like, Oceanside. I had to look up where it was because I was like, are they going to San Diego? It's like north of San Diego, south of Orange County. I don't actually think they went that far, which is, you know, whatever. I guess this is their little trip for the season, so I'll take it. But I have a few takeaways from this episode. First, we get the continuation of Derreet versus Kyle at the first dinner on this trip. And they are really going at it.

And I love to see this. I feel like this is sort of what we've been waiting for. And what's clear to me is that, like, they both have so much anger. And I think that it's interesting to see both of them. really like living in that space of being angry because I think so much of the time on housewives we see people sort of like trying to present in a certain way where it's like I might be trying to drag you for something but I don't necessarily want you to know that it has like emotionally hurt me or like affected me in some deep way versus this I feel like they're really

they're really kind of putting it all out there. It's kind of a knock-down drag-out. And right away, I thought this was fascinating. Doreet is like, I think that you punish me when I say things that you don't like. And Kyle's like, you're right. I do punish you. That to me was a big admission. Because I feel like so much of the Kyle Richards thing is like, oh yeah, you know, like,

Doreet and I haven't been close for a while. It just hurt me when she said this thing and that thing. But like for her to cop to. the idea that it is a punishment for Doreet. I was surprised that that didn't sort of get latched on to more by Doreet because to me that shows sort of like an intent that I think I wouldn't necessarily have expected Kyle to admit to that it's like not only are we like not as close as we used to be or feeling a little bit of distance, but like I am purposefully putting you on ice for six

months because of something I didn't like that you said. And, you know, to Kyle, it's more than just one thing that she didn't like because, of course, Derreitz's like, well, that was a joke and that was a joke and that was a joke. And Kyle, like, why are you punishing me for a joke? But I think it's, I think it's an important thing for Kyle to admit because I think that it's true. But all of a sudden, we're going back years of everything that Derreet has, in theory, done to Kyle. back at the Chehita fashion show in New York, which was like four seasons ago when DeReed's like, I better come and fix Kyle's fashion show because she doesn't know what she's doing. And then Kyle's like, when have I ever said something like that to you?

And Doreat's like, at the Bucca de Beppo when you came in the room. And then we get the flashback of Kyle saying that it didn't transport her to Capri, which like, oh my God, what a horrible thing for Kyle to say that the, you know, shitty private room at Encino Bucco de Beppo didn't transport. her to, you know, the Amalfi Coast. What an insult. It's fun when we really are like peeling back the layers and are like, okay, how far back does this go? Like, we're really getting, going back to the source. And the fact that all of this stuff has been sort of like being added and added and added over the course of years at this point. And this is, you know,

across the table when Sutton and Erica are kind of like, is this? And Erica's like, years ago. Like, that to me is one of the best things about this, people staying on these shows for a long time and having sort of this treasure trove of evidence that when these things happen, it's not just like, oh, yeah, like you said this thing or one time I remember. It's like, no, we have the exact footage of when it happened and the way that it aired on the show, which a lot of the time these arguments are.

are really more about the way something ended up on TV more than how it happened in real life. Because the comments that Doreet and Kyle made that they're angry about with Bucca DeBepo and the fashion show, those were in confessionals. And so if this show didn't exist, like if these women were living the exact same business ventures and everything without the show, which, I mean, they wouldn't have gotten them without the show. but let's imagine, let's put on the memory, the like imaginary hat. They would never have made these comments or heard that the other person made these comments. And so it's, it is like a uniquely sort of like under the microscope Truman Show kind of thing that now we're fighting years later about stuff that happened specifically on the show. And that I find, I just find fascinating. I also think it's interesting that Doreet brings up that she feels like, you know,

Kyle hasn't been there enough for her, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We've talked about that. But Kyle says, you know, the last couple of years I've been going through so much with my separation. And it feels like Kyle sort of feels that she should have a little bit of a free pass for the way that she's treated Doreet and the way that she has maybe not been there for Doreet in the last couple years because of what she's been going through with her marriage. And this is interesting to me because, you know, I haven't, I haven't been married. I haven't been divorced. Obviously, it takes up a lot of energy and mental, whatever. You have stuff to worry about. And Kyle says that. She's like, we shouldn't

be worried about this right now. Like, we have this thing that requires all of our, you know, attention. We should be supporting each other. But like, over the course of this episode, something that I think is really prominent is that most of the women in this group have similar or at least, you know, relatable experiences. Kyle and Dorit are obviously in the thick of their separation stuff right now, but Sutton, Garcel, Erica, Jennifer even, all have, you know, experiences that they can share, that they can relate, whether it's offering advice, you know, Sutton kind of takes to read aside. and it's like, you know, when you're going through this thing, I've been there. And so, you know, I can help you.

And that, of course, you know, I don't know how long that'll last because by the end of the episode, they're screaming at each other on a sprinter band. But it is like, it's interesting to kind of like stack all of those dynamics and experiences on top of each other. And you have, you know, Garcell talking to Erica, talking to Kyle about all of this stuff. And, like, you know, Garcel and Kyle sharing a really real moment that I thought was kind of amazing about Garcell's feelings of like, I'm divorced, I'm single, I'm about to be an empty nester. I'm busy in my career. But, like, what is the next phase of my life just like as me, Garcel, a woman in her 50s who's going to be alone?

And, I mean, this is, we've, already heard Kyle talk about this, you know, even just in the last couple episodes, that she only has one kid left at home. She now has, you know, no husband at home with her. Portia's going to be gone in a couple of years, probably, at least, you know, in some capacity. And then what is her life? And obviously, you know, I don't think or, you know, I know that it's not like your life ends when it's like, oh, your kid went to college, what are you going to do? But like, it's a life change. And specifically for Kyle, I mean, getting, you know, separated from Mauricio

much more recently until a year ago, maybe even more recently if she thought there was a chance they would get back together, she thought she was going to have, you know, retirement with her husband. And, I mean, the question mark here is like, are you single? Are you alone? Where is she who must not be named Morgan Wade, y'all? Like, is she in the picture? Like, I think Garcel it seems like, has been mostly single for quite a while now. Kyle, that's a lot more of a question mark. So I do hope that we have not, you know, sort of put that on the shelf for the entire rest of the season because I still have some questions for her there. But I think it's really interesting.

The other thing that I think is fascinating is that this week we see Sutton deciding that she wants to be kind of like some sort of peacemaker within the group. For the second dinner, she writes out a speech, which first of all, I'm just like, Sutton, please. She writes out a speech that is like about friendship and sisterhood, and she's like the bonds of being,

we are all sisters. And it's this long speech handwritten. And she's like, it's coming from my heart, which is why I had to write it down because you all know that I'm not good with my words. And I do. I really had to laugh when Erica's like, are we at cheer camp? Is this like brownies? Like what is what is happening? Because I think that Sutton is somebody who is very interesting.

I think that she is a smart person who is a very, you know, worldly and cultured and all of that. I don't think that she's a writer. And it's hard when you're right. writing about something earnest and something sincere, it can tip over into like gobbledygook about friendship really quickly. And like this thing that she's doing, she's like tying a ribbon around their hands. And she's like, now we are bonded as a sisterhood for life. It's like, first of all, what is this ribbon?

Like, what are we doing? Is this like, what is this ritual? Where did you come up with this? Like, did she see that somewhere? Did somebody tell her? Did she meet with like a Reiki healer who was like, so you're going to take this ribbon and you're going to tie it around all those messy ladies and everything's going to be excised from the group and then you're going to be the leader of the sisterhood circle. I believe that Sutton believes that. But I also believe that by the next morning when we're on the sprinter van, things have taken a turn for the worst because there is.

So there's a teddy. A teddy thing has been, the name has been uttered. Don't say it two more times or else she'll appear. I really think on this show, we need to have a teddy jar. Not on this, not on mention at all. On Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Because I just talk, I talk about what I see. But these women can't give Teddy a fucking rest.

She's not on the show. She's just not. And, you know, at the, you know, the night before they're talking about this Teddy thing. And, you know, Kyle's like, well, we're all close with her. And Doreet's like, well, we're friends. But I wouldn't say we're close. And that's the whole thing on its own. But then Sutton the next morning on the bus, she's like, well, I just didn't like that.

While we were talking about Teddy, Erica, whispering to Kyle and, you know, I just think it's like mean girl, not nice. And it's funny because Erica was basically whispering to Kyle the same thing that Derreet was saying out loud, which is like, I don't think that they're that close. But Derreet like flips out over this. And one thing I love, and we see it a couple times this episode, is when Derreet gets into her, like, angry yelling register. where she's like, I was the one exciting it to you.

And she and Sutton are just like, all of a sudden, very angry at each other. Doreet is like, this is exactly what I was talking about, where you never know which Sutton you're going to get. And yesterday when we were on the boat, she was like, I want to be your divorce guru. And now she's like, I think it's fucked up that you said that you're not that close with Daddy. It is a little confusing. And Sutton's whole thing is that she thinks that anything that you want to be.

want to say about anybody, you should be able to say in front of the group and that there should be no secrets and no whispering and no talking behind the back. And I just kind of want to know what show she thinks she's on. Because it's like, madame, you are a real housewife of Beverly Hills. This show is built upon talking about people, about spreading, you know, rumors and stories and gossip and talking and talking and saying what the other person said to them and then you tell them and then you go to lunch and then you say in your confessional and then there's a receipt at the reunion. It just is fantasy to say that we will never talk about something behind a back again. As long as people have had backs, they've been talked behind.

You know, I fully believe going back to cavemen times, we were talking behind each other's backs. It's a human thing. It's the same thing. Honestly, I feel like it's the same vein. I always complain about people, the idea of like people not being liars and being so horribly offended when you insinuate that somebody maybe would somehow tell a lie. It's like people are liars and people talk behind each other's backs. Those are my commandments. And if you are on housewives being like, we should never speak about each other. We should be open and honest all the time. like what do you what do you think is going to happen

it's not going to be good and I don't think that Sutton actually wants that I think that she wants to be the one saying she wants that because then she will be sort of portrayed as like the peacekeeper of the group and I think Sutton is great TV I enjoy

her a lot but in that moment I'm like girl please get a get a grip where do you think you are right now Wow. What a time. We had a lot to talk about. I was a little, I got to say, I was like, I'm going to talk about Roney today. And I don't know how that's going because I might talk for 30 seconds and then get bored. But I feel like we kept it going. We had a good energy and, you know, let's keep the good energy going. Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen. I'll be back tomorrow with one more episode for the week. And like I said, next week, going to get into some year end stuff as well as talking about, you know, the current shows. So send me whatever you want to hear me talk. about for our last few episodes of 2024. Wow, I can't believe we made it. But thank you so much. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool. Mention It All is produced by Dylan Hafer, Sean Kilby, Jorge Morales Pico, and Rebecca

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