Mention It All - Take A Bow, RHOSLC
Episode Date: January 3, 2024It’s the first week of 2024, and we may have already gotten the best episode of the year? Dylan sits down to unpack the mind-blowing finale of RHOSLC, where the cast and the editors united to create... something truly special. From the Reality Von Tease timeline to the most important social media reactions, it’s a full deep dive with all the need to know information. Later, Dylan speculates on Monica’s future with the show, and why this episode hit so hard. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast.
We don't say that, but now we said it.
With me, Dylan Hafer.
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast.
It is a new year.
It is a new day.
It is the Salt Lake City finale day.
The morning after, really.
Can you even fucking
believe it. You guys, I'm so happy. This finale, oh, oh, they really did it. They really did the damn thing.
I, obviously, we're talking about the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Season 4 finale,
if you haven't seen it yet, what are you doing? What are you doing with your life? What are you doing
with your time, with your choices? This finale, it is,
almost, it is almost hard to believe the level to which it lived up to the hype in my estimation
and seemingly in the estimation of many people watching because this season was such a
gamble from the start really, because going back less than a year, this season of Salt Lake City
barely even seemed like it was going to happen or like it was going to happen, you know, quickly.
And then, you know, it was starting and it was pretty good.
And then it got even better.
And then it got weirder and deeper and darker.
And then this finale, they left us right before the holidays with this teaser that it was going to be, you know, one of the most shocking dramatic episodes ever.
This, this Heather phone call that was teased for months.
And by God, it delivered.
There's nothing like it.
There's nothing like the feeling of watching a Housewives episode that has been prophesied as one of the greatest.
And when it ends, you're like, yeah, it was.
And the fact that we got this episode, I truly cannot stop thinking about the fact that this episode that this episode,
January 2nd, the first, the first new Bravo episode of the calendar year.
And it's this.
Where do we go from here?
What do we do now?
It's like the Miss Juicy meme, where it's like, well, what the hell we're going to do now?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't want to be, you know, all Doomsday.
right off the bat, but I am I am a little concerned about where we're going now. But no, no, no, no.
It's January 3rd. I cannot be in this place about the year ahead. We have a long year ahead. We
have lots of shows to look forward to, lots of world events. I'm sure we're going to want to
distract ourselves from and trust and believe we will be doing that by talking about Bravo.
Lots of great guests coming up, lots of amazing things on the schedule. But today, I mean,
these Salt Lake City women, I would have to go back, but I don't think there's.
have been very many seasons that end on the cast trip.
Like, Monica walks away from that table.
Heather tells her to pack her knives and go.
And that's it.
Everybody gets their little, uh, their little, you know, post title card where they're,
you know, they're working on their marriage.
They're working on their business.
But there's no coming home from the trip.
We're going straight to the reunion next week.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect $200.
There's no, there's no, like, recap with the husbands of what happened on the trip.
It's kind of wild.
This Bermuda trip, I, it's interesting to think about Salt Lake City as a whole.
Over four seasons, this trip being the first time that they got to leave the country,
the first, it feels like the first real, like,
top-tier housewives trip that they've gotten to have.
Of course, they've had, you know, drama in Zion, like the trip to Vail when Jen got arrested,
last year in San Diego with Heather and the Black Eye, which we will get to.
Obviously, it's not like nothing happened on those trips.
They had their moments.
But when you think of Housewives trips in the Pantheon, you're not thinking of a girl's trip to somewhere else in Utah.
you're thinking of scary island you're thinking of you know Atlanta going around the world you know
they've been to Japan they've been to Spain you're thinking of OC going to Mexico a million times
you're thinking of Ireland you're thinking of Iceland you're thinking of all of these sort of
huge trips Beverly I mean Beverly Hills the places they've been salt Lake City didn't have a trip like this
until right now. And oh my God, Bermuda is, it's really up there. Because what's so wild is that even the
first half of this episode, so it starts, we get our, you know, lightning and thunder, angry gods
montage of like, you know, what's going to happen. And then it goes back to eight hours earlier.
And eight hours earlier, you would never know what is about to go down. You're getting Heather and
Whitney having a little, you know, make-up moment after the book blow up from the night before, which, I mean, the more that they talk in circles about this, it's like Whitney Rose, my sweet dear, what are you talking about?
Heather reads the portion of the book. I read the portion of the book. If you haven't listened to that episode from two weeks ago, I read the whole portion of the book.
And it's like there's just nothing there.
And Whitney's like, well, but I hadn't read it.
And Heather's like, I read it to you.
And she's like, great, but I hadn't read it.
And Heather's like, no, you read it.
I read it to you.
She's like, great, but like I hadn't read it.
What do you want from her?
I mean, Heather at the end of the day is sort of the bigger person in this moment.
And it's just like, okay, yeah, I'm sorry.
But it's like, sorry for what?
Whitney, I think this is one of those situations where it's like, Whitney probably should have just said no to that story being in the book in the first place, but she didn't want to or didn't feel like she could.
So she didn't.
And then now that it's out there, she feels some type of way about it.
But it's like, there wasn't anything that bad about it.
Like she, it's, I think it feels like a self-conscious thing or like a, I don't know.
I'm glad that they moved past that because it just was not worth having such a blow up about.
But I did love the disagreement over whether Heather had used the word butthole.
She's like, you said from belly button to butthole.
And others like, I did not use the word butthole.
Wow.
January 2nd and we're already having discourse about housewives using the word butthole.
We're so back.
We're so bad.
It's 2024.
It's a new year. I'm having a great time. Then they go riding on these scooters around Bermuda.
If you put the Housewives in an unusual type of motor vehicle, it's always going to be something good.
And this is when we get through Revelation. I don't know if this has been discussed before, but Meredith Marks doesn't drive.
Heather says she hasn't been behind a wheel since 1987. And when Meredith gets asked in the complaint,
about the last time she drove a car, she says she has no idea.
This is the kind of housewives detail that I just think makes the whole tapestry of what's
happening on the show a little bit richer.
When you know these sort of quirks of the cast and you've known them for a long time and
you've sort of gotten the full picture of who they are, it's like Meredith Marks being the kind
of woman who never drives a car.
it just tells you so much with so little.
Because it's not like she's the president of the United States.
Like, she could drive.
She's a wealthy lady who lives in Utah sometimes, allegedly.
Like, she could just buy a range rover and drive herself around.
But the fact that she doesn't, and it's not like, oh, I usually just let Seth drive.
It's like, no, I literally don't drive.
It's such a perfect, perfect detail.
I feel like I cut.
I mean, of all the things that happen in this episode,
I kind of can't stop thinking about the fact that Meredith doesn't drive.
But they go on the scooter ride.
They go shopping.
It's cute.
Notably, Monica buys something for Heather because she doesn't have her credit card.
That's, you know, put a pin in that for later.
So good.
good, so good.
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One hour later, they're back at the house,
and this is when things really pick up.
Because Heather gets the phone call.
And of course, we've pretty much seen
this whole, you know, first big.
in the trailer and in the preview for the episode.
You know, she's behind the closed door.
It's what did you find out?
I can't believe it's her.
They go in.
She throws them out.
Like, that all pretty much is what we've already seen.
And the thing is, what I was really worried about going into this episode is because of the
legal stuff that has already begun to play out publicly between Heather and Monica.
I was bracing myself for the possibility that if that phone call was just her finding out that Monica used a different last name and didn't pay her beauty lab bill,
it's like, is that drama worthy of a housewife storyline?
Yes, of course.
But is that drama worthy of the hype that was built up around this episode?
I would say not really, especially because we had already found.
found out about it via these legal filings. So even when we saw the phone call on this episode,
I'm still thinking, okay, like, don't get too excited. You know, we'll see what's going to happen.
Like, okay, Heather's going to be mad that she didn't get her money. And perhaps that's going to be
it. Thank God I was wrong. Because we get to dinner four hours later. I love one of my favorite
things in an episode of Housewives is when the editing is like, we're
watching 24. It's like, okay, we started at 8 p.m. Now go back. It's noon. Now it's one. Now it's six.
Now it's five. Like the time jumps in this episode, it is, you're on the edge of your seat. You feel like you
know where everyone is at all times. Like that's the, that is such a mark, especially when they're
on a trip and everybody's in the house together. When you kind of are like mentally keeping tabs of what's
with everyone in the group because everyone feels like a vital part of what's going on.
And this is when we get to this final dinner, the Bermuda Triangle Dinner.
First of all, whether it was Heather or some, you know, lovely field producer who came up
with the idea for this Bermuda Triangle dinner, bless you, bless you, bless you.
The three like little rectangle tables arranged in a triangle with two of them sitting at each
table. It's such an awkward table arrangement, but it is so inspired. And I love that the editors put
like the little like superimposed digital triangle over the aerial shot just in case you missed
the visual of the triangle. Heather is firing on all cylinders in this episode. And obviously,
you know, we'll get to the more dramatic stuff. But just the fact that she brought those stupid little
dolls from the Pioneer Luncheon all the way to Bermuda.
She kept him in her little carry on until the last night.
She puts them in the bowls.
Like, the Pioneer Luncheon coming full circle to this final dinner in Bermuda is
genius.
It's brilliant.
It's perfect.
And of course, we get one last game.
You know, Heather, Heather of the Who Are You Throwing Off the Wagon Game is now
bringing a new game to the Bermuda Triangle Dinner.
And it's, everyone can ask an unsolved mystery about one person by picking up the doll that's in their bowl.
The structure of the game, like, the dolls are so unnecessary to the game.
And that's what I love.
That's what I think makes it sort of camp is that it's like, we don't need the doll.
You could just say, like, hey, Lisa, I have a question.
You don't have to be, like, holding this weird little doll.
But I do like that we get a couple rounds of the game before we get into all the monica stuff
because Whitney brings up Lisa saying that she was being dramatic the night before about the book thing.
And she asks why it's okay for Lisa to be dramatic, but not other people.
And Lisa, to her credit, is basically like, I never said that.
Like, we're all dramatic.
You can call me dramatic.
Who cares?
I'm dramatic.
They say dramatic 45 times.
It's a little, it's kind of neither here nor there at the end of the day.
But like, yeah, you're all dramatic.
You're on real housewives.
That's sort of what we're here for.
And then Meredith asks Heather, why she didn't get more support from her on this trip about the whole DM situation?
And this is about to be burst wide open.
So the fact that Meredith even really asks is a little bit silly.
But it just gives us one last moment this season of Meredith Mark's vocal work that I really just, we need to stop and appreciate.
Because when Meredith is like, I didn't feel like you had my back at all.
All?
At all.
At all.
Ooh.
I'm trying to get my mouth around it.
What is that?
What is that?
I love it.
It's perfect.
It's so Meredith Marks.
The way that she just locks in when she's at these group.
dinners, you know that there are going to be some strange, strange vowel sounds coming out of her mouth.
And, you know, starting this season with Palm Springs and the rumors and the nastiness and ending up with
at all, it couldn't be more perfect. It could not be more perfect. Meredith is episode between
the not driving, the pronunciation and, you know, the revelation about what happened in her store.
It's a good episode for Meredith. I mean, it's really a good episode for everyone because it is simply
just a great episode. But this is where, you know, Heather says that Monica was very clear and
convincing and that Meredith didn't seem that upset about it. And Meredith is like, well, you know,
it was lies and I just can't let myself get upset about lies anymore. And I'm like, honestly,
go off, Queen. She's, she's disengaging. She's disengaging. But Heather asks why they believed
Monica about the DMs. And this is where you can tell that Heather,
really has something up her sleeve.
She's like, why did we believe you, Monica?
Why did we believe you?
And Monica's like, well, I had the proof and I had the receipts and I had the whatever.
And Heather's like, but not because it was true.
And Monica's like, well, yeah, I said I had the proof.
And this is when Heather's like, talk about being dramatic.
Heather is relishing this, as she should.
Because Heather says she has a few questions about Monica.
and notably she's like, I don't have Monica's doll in my bowl, but I want to ask about Monica.
It's like, see, the dolls were never necessary.
But I'm glad we had them nonetheless because we need a little fun.
He says, who is the real Monica?
The real Monica is someone who doesn't want to be our friend, but wants to profit from our lives and our pain.
The real Monica is flashback.
Oh my God, it's so good.
Oh, my God.
In that moment, I ascended.
It's so dramatic.
It's so good.
And the thing is, until this moment, the other women at the table gave no indication that they knew what was happening here.
And that, that, I don't know how they did that.
I don't know if they agreed to do that.
But that made this reveal of this last minute link up on the beach.
Just, just total.
galaxy brain, mind exploding.
Because Heather,
shortly before this Bermuda Triangle dinner,
texted the other OGs,
the core four to meet up on the beach.
And they all walk down, it's windy,
it's cloudy, the wind in this episode.
You know, Monica's wrapped up in a blanket
like she's baby Yoda.
Everybody's hair looks like it's about to,
their clip in extensions better be clipped the fuck in
in because they're about to fly away.
And they're like,
yeah, why did you bring us to the beach?
and Heather delivers this monologue about this woman that's been their friend and it's gotten to know them in XYZ.
And this woman, Monica, you know her as reality von T's.
It's so stupid, but it's so good.
Because the thing that works so perfectly is that these women, like Lisa Barlow says, they're all dramatic.
And they, their reactions in this moment, the second she says reality von T's,
no, what?
What?
The pure shock and horror on their faces, you can't write that.
Give them Oscars.
Give them Emmys.
Give them whatever the fuck they want.
Because all four of them, their reaction to this is so incredible.
And Heather then goes into this story.
She's unspooling the timeline here that this account, reality von T's, started out being just about Jen and about, you know, stuff that Jen was doing and exposing Jen.
But then it ended up being about all of them.
And they were all getting this stuff posted about their families and their businesses and their lives and that it was like a plague to all of them.
And that they didn't know who was behind it.
And this is when Heather reveals that it was her.
her hairstylist and Monica's former best friend, Tenisha,
who was involved with this account,
and that she asked her about it,
and that earlier, Tenisha came clean
and said that Monica was involved with the account
and had all these receipts and all this proof and all these facts.
Exactly what Monica likes.
Facts and proof and receipts, timeline, everything!
So she found out from Tenisha.
and then the beauty lab piece.
And the beauty lab piece, I love the way that she found out about this.
She says she was going to get Monica a beauty lab gift card.
A gift.
She was giving her a gift.
And there were three monicas in the system with the same birthday.
That is bold, even by Monica's standards.
It's one thing to use a different name to not be Monica Garcia everywhere you go.
Who cares? What's in a name? A rose by any other name would still need lip fillers.
But to use three different names at the same establishment, when there's like other details and stuff that are going to be on your profile and you're also not going to pay your bill, that's bold.
It's pretty bold.
So this was the, you know, the final straw of the information that Heather got in that phone call.
And, you know, here we are.
Here we are. Monica is reality vanties.
And Heather, putting all these pieces together, saying that she was tipped off when, when Meredith had said that she was DM'd stuff that Monica had already said about other women in the cast.
the volumes of evidence exposing Monica.
And she's like, you know what?
I needed to make sure this was ironclad.
Iron clad.
That is one of my favorite descriptors,
because usually the way that I see ironclad used
is to describe like a famous person's pre-up.
When it's like, oh yeah, they're getting divorced,
but they have an iron-clad pre-nup,
so she's getting nothing.
That's how sure Heather wanted to be.
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So we go back to dinner.
We zoom back to dinner.
And oh my God.
I have your perfect formula.
Receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots.
I've never seen Heather heated like this.
Never.
I've seen her angry.
I've seen her loud.
But the way she is dialed in, activated.
And she's asked the other women to have her back.
And Monica just goes, no, that's not true entirely.
when she said it entirely,
a shiver down my spine, a chill.
And this is what, you know, Lisa's like, what's entirely?
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
And Heather says, you got caught on security footage in Meredith's store
when the clutch was stolen.
And we have the footage.
It's Monica with this, you know, more of a dirty blonde kind of look.
She's wearing a face mask.
So you can't see her mouth and nose.
but it's clearly Monica in the store with a couple other people.
And Monica's like, I didn't steal the clutch.
I had never been in the store before.
And Meredith is like, you light about being in my store!
And of course, they roll footage of earlier this season when Monica's at the store.
And she's like, I've never been here before.
All the pieces.
The cast and the editors, the way that they're working in like perfect harmony at the end of this episode, is really brilliant.
because there are so many pieces of the puzzle over the last couple of years that come back.
And even so far as when Monica tries to sort of implicate Angie Kay in this reality of Antiz thing.
And Angie Kay's quote unquote involvement is essentially just that she would like respond to things on their story, which it's like, okay, is that like great that you were responding to things that they were posting about these women who like allegedly are your friends?
It's not great, but also, like, don't act like this is like a smoking gun.
But Angie Kay clearly cooperated and gave them the screenshots.
Because we get these screenshots from Angie's DMs.
And it's like her being like, hell yes, Angie H is so thirsty and desperate.
And I love the fact that Angie Harrington has been like fully excised from the Salt Lake City cinematic
universe, except for catching this one stray in Angie Kay's DMs. It's so good. I will say, though, I was
curious. This made me curious. I looked back in the DMs, the Bravo by Betches' DMs. I was like,
oh, like, have I ever interacted with this account? Like, Reality Bonte's? I don't remember.
I haven't, but they did tag me in like 20 different stories. So I can't see any of them anymore.
they're long gone going back to like
2021, but it's a lot.
That account, by the way, hasn't posted,
or at least there aren't any posts currently up
since last year, I believe,
and it's a lot of stuff of that gen.
I mean, it's the kind of thing where I love
Bravo stuff on social media.
Obviously, that's what I do.
It's fun to engage.
But like, those accounts that are mostly just
dedicated to posting,
you know,
theoretically incriminating messages and stuff
that people post, like, it's kind of boring.
Like, I don't, it's just like not how I like to engage with Bravo content.
So a page like that, it doesn't really stick out to me.
But then when you go back and see some of the stuff, it's like, oh, my God, they were really,
they were really going for it here.
But there's, oh, my God, this episode, there's just so much happening.
When Monica has basically admitted that she was involved, but she,
She seems stuck on this idea that it's like, I didn't start the account.
I didn't start the account.
It was Tanisha who started the account.
And she says, Vantis was never just one person.
Bottom line, this is in the confessional, bottom line, our mission was to take down Jen.
The other women were just collateral damage.
And this is the type of moment where some of this stuff I could see.
There's a little bit of both sidesiness.
Shit happens on housewives.
You never know who's going to forgive her.
come back for a storyline or XYZ.
But to say on camera that these women, you viewed as collateral damage in this social media
campaign and that you were posting things about their business and their lives and their
families, I don't see how you could come back from that.
Because you have admitted to being somebody who's not trustworthy and not only not
trustworthy in the sense of like, oh, she doesn't keep her promises, but not trustworthy in the
sense that you have literally tried to take down people that you proclaimed to be a friend of.
Monica came on the show this season saying that she had been friends with Jen and even referencing,
I think, in the first episode, that like Jen had told her negative things about all these
women, so she kind of had her guard up.
So why on earth, knowing what they know now, would anyone else on this cast be willing to even entertain the idea of moving forward with Monica?
This is when Heather, Heather with the big reveal that she says, you know, for Jen, she lied and she took shit and she got yelled at and that she, Jen gave her a black eye.
And she didn't tell anyone.
I was not expecting this.
I wasn't prepared for this.
I just kind of assumed that we were never hearing about the black eye.
But here it is.
I mean, she said it happened.
And I'll just read what Jen posted because Jen Shaw from the federal prison camp in Texas posted an Instagram story.
Or I think Marillo is running her account now, one of her assistants or designers or someone.
at the real gen shop
quote
Bravo if I punched Heather in her eye
you guys would have footage to prove it
it's clear the show can't live without me
since I was brought up at the beginning, middle,
and end of season four
Andy is still butt hurt that I turned down
his one-on-one interview
why would you sit down with someone
who gave another cast member a black eye
next story
like first of all
it's not Bravo's job to like collect evidence
to exonerate you from giving Heather a black eye
like maybe they have footage
maybe they don't. They've said that they don't, so I'll believe that they don't. But also,
Jen proclaiming that the show needs her because she was referenced throughout this season,
that's not a sign that they need you so much as that they're living in the aftermath of you,
and it would be strange not to acknowledge. Like, if you were in a group of six friends and one of
them went to federal prison for years, it would be strange.
not to be like, damn, that was kind of a crazy thing that happened in our friend group.
Let's talk about how to move forward from that.
That's not like being obsessed with the person who went away.
That's like processing human emotions and trauma and feelings in a way that is human.
And they're not sitting around crying because they miss Jen.
They're not like, God, we have nothing to talk about without Jen here.
They're like, yeah, it was pretty crazy when our, when we were on a bus and the feds showed up.
I think I, I think that should be allowed.
Heather asks her to leave.
She says, pack your bags and go.
Pack your bags and go.
I ate shit for her every day.
It's like, well, nobody, you didn't have to do that.
There is still that, like, in the back of your head, it's like, yeah, you probably shouldn't have, Heather.
We all told you to stop doing that.
We all saw that that wasn't going to end well.
But, you know, she's not going to do it again.
And I think this is, I mean, it's the logical conclusion.
If you find this out about somebody who you don't have,
you don't even have that close of a friendship with,
you're going to tell her to fuck off.
And that's what they do.
Monica walks away.
She says she knew this information would come out eventually,
even Gossip Girl.
couldn't stay Gossip Girl forever.
Wow.
Put that on a pillow.
It really is wild.
What a wild end to the season.
They haven't all been together since the finale,
and now they're sitting down for the reunion.
I mean, I guess this episode sort of justifies the fact that they didn't have a cast panel at BravoCon,
because it would have been this.
And they couldn't give away the end of the season.
It's a, it's a, it's really just a timing problem, but damn, damn, what an episode.
A few, a few social media tidbits that have happened in the last 12 hours or so.
Obviously, I mentioned that Jen Shaw posted that story.
So that's something that's happening.
Also, we have heard from Tunisia, Heather's hairstylist, Monica's former friend,
who was also involved with Reality Von T's.
She's been posting Instagram stories,
basically saying that Monica,
it's Monica and Koa,
this other guy who also worked with Jen Shah.
The three of them were in this group text together.
They were running this account together.
And, you know, Monica's side of the story is basically that
Tenisha started the account and she was just involved with the stuff about Jen.
Tunisia paints a little bit of a different picture.
She says that Koa and Monica were really,
hurt by Jen. And so she was kind of just trying to support her friends and, um, I guess
helped them push through the pain by, uh, conducting a smear campaign on social media.
Uh, look, I, I don't know if I can condone the, the thought process there, but she basically
says that she was along for the ride and that she never even had personal beef with any of these
women. One specific thing about this that is super weird is this idea that Monica was
really into finding out these women's addresses and doing drive-bys of their houses and taking
pictures of their houses and sitting outside their houses. There's a video that Tenisha posted
of Monica in quote-unquote disguise. She has like a scarf over her head going to drive by Jen's
house. There's another screenshot that Tanisha posted of a text from Monica that is a photo
of Jen's house with an arrow pointing to a woman.
in the window that is labeled as Jen.
Like, that is psycho behavior.
Like, it's a woman in a second story window of a house and you're taking a photo from
the street and labeling that that is Jen.
Like, as much as, as much as I don't think Jen Shah needs us to stick up for her,
like, nobody should be, nobody should be having, like, random women patrolling their house
like that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So Tunisia posted a bunch.
We also heard in a twist that I just love from Dita Vantis, the namesake for reality Vanty's.
And also the profile picture of reality Vanty's.
And this is where Dita took issue because obviously people were sending this to her, tagging her and stuff.
And she posted a screenshot on her Instagram story of the account and said, please report this page for using my photo for their profile.
Apparently it's being used right now on Bravo TV as well.
She also posted a tweet from somebody that was like, basically, like, I wonder if Dina Vanty's watches Salt Lake City.
And she was like, no, I don't.
Please report this.
Ooh, they're getting a cyst and deceased, that's for sure.
One last little item.
After the episode last night, Monica was on Instagram live, answering questions, responding to people, just sort of gloating.
She's in this mood of, I think she feels like she won something.
I don't really know.
if that is warranted.
But she was on Instagram live watching the episode with Dana.
And some of you listening probably don't even remember who Dana was.
But she was one of the three friends of last season, along with Angie K and NGH.
She went on the trip to San Diego.
So she was there when Heather got the black eye but didn't see anything.
They were being asked about this.
And she was like, I didn't see it happen.
but there was a lot of physical stuff that night.
It's like, okay, thank you, Dana.
Thanks for nothing.
It was really funny, though, to watch in the comments of this Instagram live.
People were like, oh, my God, Dana, yes, Queen, Dana.
And it's like, did anybody care about Dana like this when she was literally on the show?
I think it's one of those things where it's sort of like everybody was just hyped up last night.
And so it's fun to see, like, it's like seeing two, you know, of the Disneyland
characters like hanging out together.
It's like, oh my God, it's like Donald and Mickey.
It's Dana and Monica.
But that would be, it feels like one of those things where for Monica to stay on the show
would be really hard to justify in like a real world friend group explanation.
So there is kind of this vibe that I got that I picked up on seeing Dana and Monica together
last night, that that would be sort of the only way I could see them making a case for keeping
Monica around is if they sort of brought other people to her side.
Because I just can't imagine.
And of course, I mean, we've seen crazy stuff happen with friendships and betrayals and new
relationships.
I mean, remember when Danielle Stoub popped back up on New Jersey as Teresa's friend?
like dear God.
But I just, it's so hard to imagine how Monica would really remain in this group.
So I mean, I don't know.
I'm very excited to see the reunion, this finale.
Just, just what an episode.
11 out of 10, truly.
I'm sure we'll talk about it more.
Damn, it's January 3rd.
And I kind of feel like we just saw the best housewives episode of the year.
So we'll see where we go from here.
In the meantime, though.
Thank you so much for listening.
Don't forget to rate review and follow the show wherever you listen.
I hope everybody had a great, happy holidays, happy new year.
Can't wait for everything that's coming up this year.
And until next time, be cool.
Don't be all like uncool.
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