Mention It All - Tales From the Bravo Vault

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

For today’s episode, Dylan beams in from vacation with some listener-submitted questions. He weighs in on a wide variety of topics from Real Housewives casting questions to which Bravo Lisa is the most delusional (it’s a tight race). He also shares some of his most chaotic Bravo stories, including which Housewife once talked his ear off about aliens at a party. Later, Dylan breaks down what’s All The Rage, presented by Angry Orchard Hard Cider. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Betches Media presents Ha ha, laugh, funny Mention It All, a Bravo by Betches podcast. We don't say that, but now we said it. With me, Dylan Hafer. We're going to check me, both. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention It All podcast.

It's Friday. It's October 17th as you are listening to this. We're recording a little bit early. I am on vacation as you're listening to this, but we wanted to make sure we didn't miss an episode. So we've got a good one still for you today. And I also solicited some listener questions from you guys. You sent in some great stuff, some Bravo, some a little off topic, but it's okay.

So we're going to get into that. But first, I want to talk about some of the exciting stuff we have coming up. As you know, our Tuesday episodes, you can watch full video episodes over on YouTube, the Bravo by Betches YouTube channel. We had Ashley Darby earlier this week talking about Real Housewives of Potomac season 10. I had a great time talking to Ashley. I think it's the fourth time she's been on the show. So we go back years at this point. But it was great to check in with her at the beginning of season 10 and really talk about kind of looking back on the last decade of her life that she has lived in front of the cameras. So if you haven't listened to that one, it's out now. And then we have some more exciting episodes coming up in the next couple weeks. Mary Cosby is going to be on the show next Tuesday. It's my first time ever meeting Mary, actually. First time on the podcast. podcast, first time interviewing her. We had a lovely conversation. Mary is such a character. I did not

know what to expect from her energy IRL. She did not disappoint. So that's a great one. You can subscribe and you'll see that on Tuesday. And then the following week, we have been stacking up these guests and we have another one of our secret lives of Mormon wives ladies, Macy Neely. She has a memoir out. So we talked about that, some other stuff about the show. So that's going to be out the following week. Just make sure you're subscribed wherever you listen or watch so you don't miss anything. But just like a fun month. It's been a fun month. And, you know, as I'm recording this, it's barely just started. But it's going to be a fun month and it has been a fun month. And I love that we have so much great stuff happening in the reality TV world because

we need great stuff to be happening somewhere. And it's not happening everywhere. With that, let's dive into some listener questions because you guys send in a bunch of stuff. And I want to get to as much as possible. Starting with, of course, people always, always have questions. Anytime we do this, it's always, who do you think is on the cast next season? Who's coming back? What are we doing with this show, with that show? And starting with, somebody said, what would you do with the RHOC cast next season?

It feels like they are at a crossroads. And I guess I agree. I don't know. I mean, this season has been a little bit up and down, a little bit frustrating with OC. I think the way that the blogger's storyline panned out just didn't quite click, maybe the way they hoped it would. But I agree that probably there needs to be some sort of rejiggering before next season of OC. But I don't think it needs to be a drastic, like, reboot, clearing the table, you know, bring out the guillotine kind of thing. here's what I think is maybe likely to happen.

I doubt Katie will come back. I hope that Katie shows up to the reunion, which I'll touch on in a second. I hope that she shows up to the reunion. I hope she, you know, has a good showing. But it's hard for me to picture her coming back to the cast. I think that Gretchen, thank you for your time, just like Alexis Bellino. I think we can bid farewell to you for good. Gretchen has not shown any kind of like new material this season.

In fact, quite the opposite. She seems extremely stuck in the pretty distant past, if I'm being honest. And I don't think that that is what we wanted from her. So I think that likely Katie and Gretchen will not come back for next season. And then I think the biggest question mark is Tamara. Because Tamara is a housewives institution. She is a legend in this. game and she knows how to do it better than almost everyone else who has ever done it. That being said,

it's hard for me to root for Tamara to stay on the show and to come back to the show when she has been so fickle this season in running away, in quitting in a huff, in, you know, missing episodes and then coming back with her tail between her legs, but her tail's not actually between her legs, because that's not Tamara's M.O. And then she wants everyone to grovel at her feet and beg for her to come back. And yes, she's on this therapy journey and she's really going through it with what's happening with Teddy. I am not saying that I want Tamara to be fired because I don't think that she's a good housewife. But I think that looking at Tamara's life and Tamara's choices, perhaps it is a good time for her to step away.

because if you're going to be, you know, saying I quit twice during the season, maybe that's a season you should have not done in the first place. If you're at such a, such an emotional state where you can't handle, if you can't take the heat, you know, they always say, you need to get the fuck out of the kitchen. And I, you know, I, I think that Tamara will always have a place somewhere in Housewives, you know, tapestry. but like maybe season, oh God, season 21 of OC isn't a place she needs to be. Beyond that, I don't think you need to scrap the rest of the cast. I think that Heather and Shannon work as the kind of, I don't want to say grand dams, but that's the term that comes to mind. Emily and Gina, to me, I enjoy them.

I think that they are, they're part of the furniture at this point. And I think that Jen Padranti, I still am interested in what's going on with her. So I am happy for her to stay. So you've got those five ladies and then maybe you find a couple of newbies. I do think what I would say. I think at this point we can feel confident that we have dug around in the, you know, the chest of drawers of O.C. Housewives past. and we are not going to find any hidden gems in there anymore. We've tried it with Alexis. We've tried it with Gretchen. You know, we've seen Gina Keough at a party. We've seen, you know, Megan King Edmonds at a party. No longer Edmonds. So sorry. Biden. Oh, no longer Biden. So sorry. Megan King. We don't need to keep rummaging around in the, you know, the ghost of Housewives past. I don't want to see Lizzie Rovsec. I don't want to see Lydia McLaughlin. Leave it alone. Find somebody new.

I know casting has been tough in OC. You know, Jen is kind of the only real bright spot in the last few years, aside from how you feel about Katie. But yeah, there's got to be some new women there. And then the other question, somebody asked the same thing for Miami. And they said, I wouldn't mind Julia not returning. Girl, me too. Me too. And I think watching the reunion so far, it's a little tricky because I think that it's a really strong cast.

but I think that it feels like maybe maybe a little bit stale. And so I think Julia, to me, is an easy cut. The one person that I, it pains me to say this, but I'm not sure where we go with Gertie. Because Gertie's energy at this reunion, you know, with the water dumping situation with Julia, it's clear that she has not really been able to move past that. And that not only has she not been able to move past it specifically, but I think it's also sort of like clouding her relationships with the rest of the cast. And I think that the way that Gertie handles herself in conflict is tough because I think she just sort of rubs a lot of the women the wrong way.

And that's not necessarily a problem on a one-off basis. But I get the feeling and it seems to me like many of the other women in the cast maybe don't hate Gertie or don't even strongly dislike her. but they just don't really care about being friends with her. And I think it's tough because that's not only on her, but when it's an ensemble show, if there's, you know, seven or eight women and only two of them really are viewing you as a friend that they care about, that's challenging to overcome. So I don't know where we go with that.

I mean, I think Stephanie, I have been pretty, pretty, you know, mixed on her performance this season, but it does seem like the women in the group like her, for the most part. Like, even with Alexia and Marisol that she's had issues with and Lisa, it seems like she is mostly well-liked at this moment. So, as surprising as it is for me to say this, I feel like Stephanie maybe should stay. I don't know. I would love to see Nicole back if she wants to. But otherwise, I think the cast is fine. I don't know. I don't think either of these franchises need a big old reboot.

I think they're both doing okay. But speaking of franchises that aren't, I got a bunch of questions about what we should do with New Jersey and New York. And I just like, I don't know, you guys. I don't, I mean, it's been now a year and a half since New Jersey filmed. over a year since the finale of the last season aired, it's starting to feel like there's just no momentum. And that doesn't mean that nothing can happen. That doesn't mean that it won't happen.

There's been little rumblings, but it feels like there have been little rumblings of what's going to happen in New Jersey for a year now. And nothing's happened. And, you know, we will know when it's happening for real. That's one thing that I think has changed in the last five-ish years is like, you know when a show is back in production, especially a show like Real Housewives of New York City or Real Housewives of New Jersey where the second New Jersey is filming, you're going to see a grainy video on someone's phone at a restaurant down the shore that somebody zoomed in on of Jan Fessler, you know, yelling at Melissa. that's going to be all over your Instagram feed the second it happens. So until we see that, until we see Rachel Fuda and, you know, Danielle Cabral walking around with a coffee at the local mall with the camera, it's not happening.

And so I think that for New York and New Jersey, because they feel like they're in such a stagnant place right now, I'm kind of like I don't care until there's. real news. And maybe that makes me a bad Bravo podcaster. But if it does, so be it. And when those shows, if and when those shows come back, I will embrace them with arms as open as possible. A little more of a fun direction. Somebody said, of all Bravo, Lisas, who is the funniest, most delusional, and best housewife? Those are three different categories. Okay, so we have Lisa Barlow. We have Lisa Hawstein. We have Lisa Rina. We have Lisa Vanderpump. I think those are the, I think those are all the Listas. If there's a, if there's another Lisa, I'm sorry, she wasn't memorable enough to come to mind for me.

Who's the funniest? The funniest, intentional, Lisa Rina. Ooh. But Lisa Vanderpump has that dry, British sense of humor. Maybe, hmm, this is to have. unintentional, Lisa Barlow. Lisa Barlow is like, you laugh at her. Lisa Van der Pump, you laugh with her.

Crazy girl. But Lisa Rina. This is tough. Lisa Hawstein, least funny. That's what I'll say. Most illusional. God, I, it's like, this is a close one between Hawkestein and Barlow. I think that maybe Lisa Hawkestein is the least self-aware.

where. Like she doesn't, she doesn't realize how she comes across. But I think that the most delusional has to be Lisa Barlow. Because just look at how she's been behaving so far on this season. She is, she is living so far in outer space that the satellite signals don't even reach up there. And, you know, I think the other women in the cast are starting to have less and less patience for that. And let me tell you, on last week's episode, when Heather went to Angie's salon and they were talking about Lisa, and Angie said that Lisa dyes her hair bowling ball black, and that when hair is that dark, it doesn't have shine. The way that these women insult each other, oh my God, I love it. But Lisa, I think, they're all Lisa. Lisa Barlow, I think, is winning the

delusional Olympics. And the best housewife, I think I got to run it back and give this one to Lisa Rina. Because I think that if this is a strong category, you know, Barlow, Vanderpump, Rina and Hockstein have all given us some important moments. But Lisa Rina, I think now does not get enough credit for how she just gave Beverly Hills a shot in the arm and really was instrumental. in delivering some of the best seasons of that franchise. And I think that the way she went out of the show and then kind of her like, her, she's sort of removed herself from the housewives world so much in the last few years. But God, she was good when she was good.

And I miss her. And I'm excited to read her book in the spring. I will say that. Moving on, somebody asked my seating chart prediction for the Real Housewives of Orange County reunion. And while I would say, does it matter? I'm not a big, I'm not a big seating chart analyzer when they post them. I think it's like a little interesting, but some people get so up and arms. They're like, this makes no sense.

This person in the third chair? I'm like, you guys, there's seven of them. They can all hear. There's no, like, I don't think there's like bad seats at a reunion. It's like when you go to certain theaters and they're like, oh, there's not a bad seat in the house. It's like there's seven women. You're all there on the stage. It'll be okay.

But if I, I do feel like if Katie fully shows up to the reunion, she will have to be next to Andy. So I have on starting at Andy and moving, moving to the sides, I have on one side, Katie, Jen, Shannon, Gretchen. And on the other side, Tamara, Heather, Gina, Emily. Okay. That's what I, that's my seating chart prediction. Lock it in. What do I win if I'm right? This one was fun. Who would be at your dream Bravo dinner party? This was an interesting one because I decided to go with a group of ladies that I think would have a good time together and that I would also enjoy both engaging them

in conversation but also sitting back a little bit and just watching it unfold. And these are women who I, I, uh, I've met everyone on this list, but not, I haven't, I haven't like, spent time with everyone on this list, but, but I think that they all would actually be nice to, to spend time with. I didn't want any, you know, horror dinner party from hell. I don't want drama. If I'm at the table, I want it to be a fun time. So my five that I picked for this, um, were Angie, Katzenavis, Giselle Bryant, Cynthia Bailey, Margaret Josephs, and Heather DeBrow, I think that we would have a great time. I think that the wine would be flowing, the champs would be popping. I'm sure that, you know, I would let Heather maybe curate the menu, maybe $60,000 of no boo sushi would be on the menu.

That sounds good to me. I think Cynthia's funny. I think Margaret is funny. I think Angie is just a pleasure to have in class. And I think Giselle is a good time too And I think they all could Talk and get along and have a nice time So that's my Bravo dinner party

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And this was tricky because I try not to have like recency bias with these things, but also you don't want to forget about people from, you know, whatever. I went with my gut. And one of, when I get asked to my favorite housewife is, that's a weird question for me too, because I'm like, I just don't know. but somebody that I always come back to is Chiray. And I think that Choray is one of our greats. And I think that compared to some of the other women who get put on Mount Rushmore's and who are, you know, in every, every meme compilation and whatever, I think that Choray is a little bit slept on as a, an OG of, an OG of one of the OG iconic franchises.

She was in Atlanta for some of the biggest moments, for some of the biggest ratings ever. She has come back not once but twice. The only housewife, I think still today, the only housewife to have three separate stints as a full-time housewife, which is, you know, a little bit of an interesting achievement because, of course, that means that she has been fired three times. But Choray is just so goddamn funny. She makes me laugh. She is just the right amount of delusional. One of the other questions that I got was,

what is my favorite housewives trope? And I thought that was interesting. And the thing that I landed on is I love somebody who has just a little bit of a healthy amount of delusion to where they are really just funny and kooky a little bit and living in their own world just enough, but not so much that they don't seem human. Like they don't have an emotional arc. Like they can't actually engage with things that are going on with other people.

And I think that Shiree, she just makes me happy. The clip I saw recently one of the favorite ones where she's just at home eating her chips. And she's talking about how they're her special chips. And they're just the right amount of salt and a nice crunch. Hell to the nod to the nah-na-na, Chateau Chiray. She has given us so much, and I think that she deserves her flowers always, and I will give them whenever I have the chance. So Choray, my most underrated housewife. Some fun ones about people that I've met, people I've interacted with.

Somebody asked who was my favorite Bravo Lev to interview so far, and who is my dream guest? And, you know, it's, I could never pick a favorite that I've interviewed so far, but I have to say in terms of dream guests, when this season of Salt Lake City was coming back around, I really, really wanted to try and get Mary. Because Mary is somebody who is the, she's the only, on the current Salt Lake cast, other than Brittany, who just joined last season, Mary is the only person that we haven't had on the show. And I had seen her at a couple of events in person from a distance, but I had never even actually met her. And Mary is such an interesting character, such an enigma sometimes, but also, like, has such a human, like, tender side to her. And I just was like, I want Mary.

And it happened. It's coming out next week. And you guys will all be able to listen and watch it. So that was very exciting. On the more, maybe less attainable dream guest side, some of these Bravo watching celebrities, I just would love to sit down with and talk about, you know, the stuff we all love talking about with each other. Rihanna has been on the dream guest list for a long time. Jennifer Lawrence is a housewives fan. John Oliver from last week tonight, when he goes on Watch What Happens Live, he really, he knows Ball.

He loves to talk about Housewives. One of my favorite photos ever is when he wore the Brooks Marks track suit on Watch What Happens Live. Just like, oh, I would love to talk to him. He's so funny. But yeah, there are lots of celebrity Housewives fans, and some of them sound more fun to talk to than others. But those are a few that I would really enjoy. Somebody asked about my best or funniest Bravo Lebb encounter. A few that I came up with are just like, though.

sort of like fever dream moments where people are together in a room that don't seem to go together. Knights like Dave Quinn's book release party, the Not All Diamonds and Rosey book, maybe in 2021. And it was just like so many people in the same room. I remember specifically, I saw Leanne Lockin and she, we were talking and she was yapping my ear off about some show. that her husband Rich was working on for Discovery Channel or something that was about aliens or ghosts or something supernatural. And she was just like talking and talking and talking about how, of course, this was a real thing, the aliens or ghosts or whatever it was. And how this show was going to be so great. And, you know, she wasn't on housewives anymore. So wasn't this amazing? Meanwhile, Cindy Barshop, the Vajazzling Queen herself from that one season of Roney that one time,

was like at this event wandering around looking lost. Just moments like that that it's like, what is happening? Where am I? I think about two, the night before the first ever BravoCon in 2019, I ended up at the Moxie Hotel in Chelsea. And there was this like Housewife Game Night event happening. And Kelly Dodd was there. And Bronwyn Wendomberg was there.

And Emily Simpson was there. And Leon Locken. scene of the crime, she was there. This was before, in 2019, I didn't know anybody. Like, we had not started the podcast yet. We had just launched the Bravo Baibetch's Instagram account. So at BravoCon in 2019, I didn't, nobody knew who I was, for, for sure. I didn't really, I had never met anyone, really, in the Bravo sphere.

And so that was really one of the first times that I had been, like, around Bravo people. and it was also the day after Kelly Dodd had gotten engaged to her husband, Rick. And so she was, first of all, drunk. And her ring was like three sizes too big and she needed to get it fixed. And this was, can I, okay, walk with me back to 2019 for a second. This was before Kelly Dodd was the Kelly Dodd that we know and hopefully don't think about too much now. where she's like on TikTok live every day talking about like, you know, illegal immigrants or whatever she and Rick get into.

This was when Kelly Dodd was just like a little bit of an unhinged Housewives villain. And like you could kind of enjoy that. Yeah. So I have a video in my camera roll of Kelly showing off her engagement ring in my phone and saying, I think she says, I bet you bitches are peanut butter and jealous. Just. what a time to be alive. I remember, too, that night, Bronwyn was celebrating, hitting 100,000 followers on Instagram. It's like, okay. Oh, where is she now? I couldn't say. But nights like that, it's less about like, oh, I ran into this person and more just some of those events where it's like, what is happening right now? Truly, truly, truly. Last season when they did that Real House of Salt Lake City Van Lewin ice cream flavor,

watching Mary and Angie and Bronwyn scooping ice cream, just things like that that just stick in my brain and I'm like, I can't believe that happened. And I can't believe I was there for that either. Wow. Thoughts on Karen Huger for DUIs. Is it time to stop rewarding bad behavior? So here's the thing. Like, yes, it's time to stop rewarding bad behavior. And she just was in jail for several months. And she's not on the season of the show. that she's been on for the last nine years, I think that we did stop rewarding bad behavior.

And I am 100% in favor of her, you know, taking accountability and doing whatever penance she needs to do. But if she's on season 11 of Real Housewives of Potomac, if she returns to her job for the last decade, I don't think that's celebrating bad behavior. I think that's she went away and she, she did the accountability part, and I hope that she continues to, you know, to make good choices and to, to, you know, contribute to society in a positive way. But I don't think that, I don't think that, like, punishing her in the sense of, oh, you can never come back to housewives, even though people want to see what you're up to and even though you actually have relationships with these women, I don't think that's, I don't think that's the same. And I hope that she does come back to the show. I think, I think I would like to.

love to keep following her story. And I don't think that her being on the show is, is rewarding bad behavior. Um, just a couple, a couple little last ones I want to touch on. First of all, somebody, I appreciated this. Somebody said, most civil cases are dismissed once the parties reach a settlement. L.B. sounds so dumb. Sorry, that wasn't a question, but that's my opinion as an attorney, L.O.L. Thank you for, thank you for weighing in there. Um, I think Lisa's, uh, definition of dismissed continues to be challenged and critiqued, and I can't wait to see how that will pan out. Somebody asked me for my thoughts on Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban Splitting. I hope that Nicole is well. She looked fucking amazing at that Chanel fashion show. She can rock the bangs. I saw that

they just greenlit a new Paramount Plus series that she's going to be in with El Fanning. I think she's booked and busy. I think she's as hot as ever, and I hope that she finds Someone that will make her happy, or if she wants to be alone for a while, you do, you, queen. And then lastly, somebody said, which Housewives show would you like to guest star on? And the answer is like, I am so good. I am so fine. Have you watched this season of Real Housewives of Orange County? I say this with all the love in my heart.

The last thing that I am manifesting for my life. is to be pulled into any kind of Kiki Monique situation. I am 100% content watching these shows and talking about them with my friends and with you guys and with some of the people from the shows. That is about as close as I need to be. And so in terms of what Housewives show I would like to guest are on, maybe someday I'll be in the crowd at Sonia's Cabralesque, but that is truly as close as I need to get. But I hope that we get to keep talking about it here because I really enjoy it, and I hope you do too.

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Now, this week, I had to save this one because I knew I needed to talk about it, but the Miami reunion has been so dramatic for so many reasons. But we need to talk about what's going on off the screen with Todd and Alexia. Of course, on the reunion, we get the update from Alexia that she and Todd are no longer together. You know, whatever situation ship they were having while the season was being filmed seems to have come to an end. And can I just say, thank God. But now, Todd, you know, surprise, surprise, is unhappy with the way that he has been portrayed on the show. So he is suing, he filed a defamation lawsuit against Bravo, NBC Universal Media, and purveyors of pop, which is the production company behind Real Housewives of Miami. And he is alleging that over the last two seasons of the show, his name and likeness have been featured without consent, and that there have been defamatory statements falsely portraying him as financially irresponsible or suffering from financial distress despite his, I'm reading, this is a quote,

despite his multi-million dollar real estate portfolio and longstanding business reputation. Now, I don't know that much about the specifics of Todd's business dealings, but this does feel a little bit like something that if you were a real successful businessman with like a lot of great stuff going on, would you really be spending your time worrying about things that Adriana and Marisol have been saying about you on Real Hustlers of Miami. I mean, maybe so. I'm not a successful businessman, really. So maybe that's worth $10 million in damages and presumably a bunch of legal fees. But I don't know. And then he also says that his name and likeness have been featured without his consent. And there's an extra $1 million that he's seeking in damages for that.

And he's requesting a jury trial and saying, this lawsuit represents an opportunity for Todd Napola to set the record straight and hold the defendants accountable for their intentional and reckless disregard for the truth. Enough is enough. I'm sorry. Like, Todd Napola is just like, I can't take him seriously. And I have, I've met the man. You guys, I have met Todd. I are L. And, you know, there was always a little air of something a little fishy. And now I feel like we know that that's true. But look, I don't know if Todd has money or not. It seems. like he probably does. It's always strange to me, though, when a lawsuit like this, from everything that I have read, it's being filed only against the people that are creating the show,

and not any of the women on the show. So it's funny, it's like, okay, so who was saying the defamatory things? Like, who was, who was dropping these little tidbits? We know who it is because we watch the show, but it's interesting to me that from a legal standpoint, he hasn't said, like, oh, I'm suing Marisol for talking about me. He's saying, I'm suing the production company for, I guess, like, not editing it out. I don't know. This feels like loserish behavior. You know, I don't think we'll see him on future seasons of Real Housewives of Miami. In fact, I certainly hope we don't. But just like, I feel like if you're somebody like Todd, and you've been on this show in the past, and now you're divorced from Alexia,

Like, you're calling more attention to yourself by turning this into a legal battle. It's very like, is that like the Mantella effect or the stricand effect? I think it's the stricand one where it's like when something's not a thing and then you talk about it and then it becomes a thing. But like you didn't want it to be a thing in the first place. I'm like, I was perfectly ready to finish this season of Miami and then kind of never think about Todd again. And now, now we're going to get, you know, articles every time. there's an update in this court case, and I think that that is, in fact, um, you know, not really helping his case. I mean, they said it on the show. He wanted to be

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