Mention It All - The Anatomy Of An Apology (RHOA, Below Deck Finale)

Episode Date: February 16, 2021

Bari and Dylan are back from an uneventful long weekend, and they jump right in with a RHOA recap. After a few faux pas on the group trip, Kenya chooses to abdicate her hosting duties, but her apology falls flat with the rest of the women. Dylan and Bari also discuss the show’s powerful tribute to Breonna Taylor, and celebrate how far Porsha has come on the show. Then, they break down the Below Deck season finale, where the charter season came to an unexpected end due to COVID. With one last Rachel meltdown and some truly emotional moments, it’s a doozy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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With Dylan Hafer And Barry Rosenfeld I need to start drinking alcohol Now go to sleep week Hey everyone Welcome back to another episode of the Mention and All podcast I'm Dylan Hafer

And I'm Barry Rosenfeld And welcome to a short week I guess the short week Yeah it doesn't It already doesn't feel like it's going to be a short week. I thought it was Monday. Maybe that's for the best. Maybe I'll just be, I mean, I haven't known what day it was in like almost a year.

So at this point, you know, it is what it is. How was your President's Day weekend? It was good. How was yours? My weekend, I have a feeling was similarly uneventful to yours based on the fact that you can't remember a single thing you did. I will say the one big excitement of my weekend was that I sat down and watched the Jersey season premiere that's on tomorrow.

Oh, boy. Oh, boy. It's the juicy. Buckle up. Buckle up. I was told it was shocking. I was still not prepared. I can't wait to get into it later this week because I think people are going to have a lot of opinions. Yeah, I turned on my TV this morning and the episode was on of Jennifer giving a tour of her house and everyone was like, cool. It was so awkward to like rewatch. She was like, this is the room that like the traditional room that like my daughter's going to be asked to be engaged, like married.

And Dolores was like, isn't your oldest daughter 10? And she's like, yeah. She's like, all right. So you have a little while to go. But, yeah, Jersey never disappoints. 16 bathrooms. Yeah. That's so.

Oh, my God. Imagine during coronavirus her looking for toilet paper. Like the, the everyday person couldn't find toilet paper. Jennifer needed more than all of us. Well, I feel like if you're not having people come in and out of the house, you probably only use half those bathrooms. So like, I hope so. They could probably take like some toilet paper from like the sixth guest bathroom and put it in like the master or something. I'm so sad that we're talking about this right now.

We need to get Jennifer on the show solely so we can ask about her toilet paper situation during the pandemic. Okay. Let's get into. Today we're talking about Real Housewives of Atlanta, and we're also going to talk about the below-deck finale because our schedule is a little mixed up. Okay, Atlanta, we're still in Isle of Palm, South Carolina. This trip, this trip really all boils down so far to Kenya's shortcomings as a hostess. Right. Yes. I have mixed feelings because, of course, I sympathize with what Kenya is going through with her marital situation.

and she has a kid to take care of. But at the same time, objectively, she has not been a good host on this trip. This episode was like if one of those where so much happened, yet nothing happened, if that makes sense. It's particularly this episode. I don't know why I feel that way,

but I agree it's upsetting. Porsche even called her out with her sob stories, etc. You do feel for people when they have stuff going on. However, that doesn't have anything to do with you planning a lunch for the entire house. So I'm sorry. I can't. I can't. Yeah.

It is one. Like, I get, I think there are different kind of levels here when you talk about, okay, so I feel like the three big things that are happening. You have the jet that she took. Right. The having her daughter there and nobody else being aware of that are allowed to bring their kid. And then the whole crab cake situation. I feel like the. the jet thing, that feels like

Kenya just being petty. That feels like she was going to take the jet. She didn't want to tell anyone. The kid thing, I think that is more of a real, you know, she's in the situation. She doesn't feel like she has the, you know, the child care or the whatever situation to not bring Brooklyn. Fine.

I don't, I feel like it's not really my place to be like, bitch should have got two nannies. Because like, that's, like, I don't, you know, I don't have two nannies. I don't know. But then the crab cake, to me, that is the thing where it's like, did you not? Like, she's like, well, you could have gotten your Uber Eats too.

And it's like, right. But why would, as the host, why would you have not said the food's going to be late? Who wants to get Uber Eats? Even if you're not paying for everybody's, which they're on a cast trip. I'm pretty sure Bravo's picking up the tab for all of that food. It would like to know that. Why can you not wrap your mind around the fact that? that it felt like shitty for the host to get food for themselves and not for other people.

That exactly what you just said is that she can't wrap her head around it. Like, why are you not understanding? And listen, we've all been there where we're having an argument with someone and they're just not getting it. But like, this is candy handed you reasons why you were quote unquote being annoying this trip. And there one thing was, all right, two things. Okay. She gave you a list of reasons of things that you did wrong. And it was almost like she wanted to host the trip to be like the host and like queen.

And then completely fell through and was like, oh, no, I just labeled myself the host. Like I don't have responsibilities. Yeah. It's strange because on these shows, obviously there are certain responsibilities that the host person takes on. You know, like planning the games, whatever. But like the trip is going to happen regardless of who hosts it. Like it's a trip for the show. So it's not like if Kenya doesn't host the trip, the trip isn't going to happen.

It's like just to have literally anyone else play host for the weekend. I for one, it's so hard to put into words. Like I don't need so. It's one thing if we have something planned for the day. Like, and you have to be downstairs at a certain time and you're taking a bus somewhere and like you're going to the winery, etc. Or whatever, whatever the case may be. But in general, if you guys are just saying it, the. house, which you know is like the deal.

Why do you need someone telling you what to do? Go put your fucking bathing suit on and lay by the pool. Like it's not, I don't, I actually prefer people don't tell me what to do. I'm here to hang out, get away for the weekend and have fun. And like, I guess the whole, I don't, the whole crab cake thing is just really that, that was like the, the straw that that was just there is no explanation for that. So I can't get past it. From a more specific standpoint, let's talk about this.

this night that we start on. And Kenya, it's, you know, they're finishing up dinner. And it's like, okay, like, what are we going to do now? Like, they're supposed to be a game, right? Like, they're, I mean, they're always, they're, they need to film for the, for the show. Like, they can't just, like, not do anything the whole time they're at the house. And Kenya's like, okay, for the game, let's do, let's all go to sleep. And it's 9.30 p.m.

And they're like, uh, we can play never have I ever. Portia says she played never have I ever in jail which is I love I love how casually she can just throw that in there she's like yeah it's a fun game I played it in jail everything Portia says that is casual is the best like she did it at the other dinner too we'll get there and I laughed out loud because her her um delivery is just so good so okay so then kenny says let's all go to sleep and she means it she goes upstairs to her room Candy goes up is knocking on the door. Clearly, Kenya has the door locked or something. She finally comes to the door and she's like, why is there a camera? And Candy's like, uh, they followed me.

Like, we're on a TV show. I'm coming to talk to you. Like, I didn't say like, hey, bring a camera. It's like that they're doing their job. I don't, I don't understand. This is, again, kind of similar to the crab cake. It's like, why does Kenya think this isn't how it's going to go? Like, does she think that the producers aren't going to try to get her to come down

stairs like you're here to film a TV show again though it would be one thing if she was like okay guys like go to sleep and like jokingly and go upstairs and like woo-hoo all right I'm so tired I'm really going to sleep like she didn't she like just went up but that was funny when when candy did knock on the door and she was like didn't come we didn't see kenya what we just heard her like she actually didn't open the door enough right candy got pissed and I like don't blame her for that because Candy in this case is like the Heather Gay of the show where she's just like been there for Kenya and she's getting sick of it and she's like I don't need to keep doing this and I have your back but like are you seriously not coming down like you're oh you're

being serious you're not coming downstairs and then Candy like walked away this is one of those moments where I think it's a really interesting dynamic that we see a lot of the time with housewives drama is that it's there is an event that's happening on the show that they're kind of talking about like kenya not being a good host whatever but also there's this kind of like veil over it of that the drama is about the show itself that it's like you're on this trip for the show like everybody knows you're there to film that's the point of the trip and you know they like they break the fourth wall a little bit when Kenya's like why is their camera but when candy's saying that it's not fair for her to not come downstairs

and not be with the group. And, you know, that's a part of being on the show. That it's like they work together as a cast to go on this trip and create this content for the show. And that by staying upstairs and not engaging with the group, Kenya is kind of not pulling her weight in terms of being in the cast. And I think that's, so it's like, I mean, we can all empathize with the fact that it's like, it's obnoxious that she's hosting the trip and she won't plan a game.

but it's also as equal cast members on this show, it's obnoxious that she won't show up to the, you know, the evening portion of filming. The evening portion. I feel like we've said this before on other cast trips too. Like that's why it's a cash trip because like these women, some of them would not be going on a trip together if they weren't on the show. Like so that's why Candy was like, are you effing serious?

Like I don't want to sit down here and like. Right. And then all of them. Whittle my thumbs? I thought it was really interesting seeing all of them kind of get upset, especially about their kids. Because like, you know, we've, we talked about this before, but it's like, Portia has a young kid. Candy has young kids. Shemia has a baby at home.

Drew has young kids. Like, there is, there are fewer people on the strip without young kids than with. And for all of them, they're like, I'm here because I feel like I have to be here. Like, this is my job. Right. I figured my shit out. And again, like without specifically, you know, trying to like throw shade at Kenya's child care situation, it does feel like she's not kind of pulling her weight in terms of participating with the group. Right.

So I do want to talk about the talk that Candy and Kenya had the next day. And I kind of do like seeing Kenya vulnerable like that where she kind of like, you know, opened up and was talking to. candy and she did get upset and she did say like I am going through stuff I told you that this week like I told you that um right and then she brought up mark and like candy again was like feeling for her but she was like with can you like that's not the problem like I get it and whatever but then she of course she gave her the list like what we said before the jet the crab cape blah blah blah blah blah and telling her all the things she did wrong and honestly she we thought she had it like she was there and was taking in everything Candy was saying, but then they went back and met with the girls and gave what I guess you can call an apology. Dylan, would you have called that an apology? It was an apology in the sense that I believe the words I apologize came out of her mouth, but not an apology in the sense of there really being any meaning behind it. And her, you know, her reaction was basically like, if you think I,

I'm such a bad host, then fine, I won't be the host. Not like, I actually, like, thank you for the feedback. I understand. I should have done this differently. There's a level, I mean, trust me, we have seen some, some shitty apologies on housewives. I don't think this is like the deepest problem ever to apologize for, but it's, she doesn't really show, I think with an apology, it's important, obviously it's important to say the, you know, the apologizing words, but also to know why. It's important to show that you understand not just what you did wrong, but why other people were affected by it and were upset by it. And I mean, Kenya clearly is not really interested in that. She's like, she's like, fine. If you want Latoya to do the workout, Latoya can do the

workout. Like, I'm sorry. I didn't plan the perfect trip. And that's not really, really in- charge. She put people in charge of the rest of like the events going on. But also the fact that Candy was like, I don't care at all about the private jet. Like, you got a crab cake and didn't tell anyone. She's like flying a private jet all you want, but like you didn't ask. That's not actually like the real, the meat of the problem here. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session.

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Watch only on Prime. I do want to quickly, I want to highlight two moments that we kind of brushed over. First of all, we see Cynthia putting this pig meat in a Ziploc bag that she says she's going to bring home to Mike Hill, which is just, honestly, respect to her. There's a lot of leftover meat on this table. and, you know, she says there's a whole pig in there.

I love that they say she, they're like, see, this is why you're an auntie. Like, you're dressed like a niece, but you're acting like an auntie, bringing the doggie bag of meat home. Ew. Not for you. And then the other moment was when Portia in her confessional said that Kenya is like Maleficent. Oh, my God.

She couldn't, she was like so excited to make the analogy. She's like, she's like a Disney villain. And then like she landed on it. She's like, Maleficent. That bitch is like Malifficit. That bitch is like Malifficit. And they they edited it with this dramatic music and this slow motion clip of Kenya laughing maniacally. I posted a reel of that moment on the Bravo by Vech's Instagram because I just, I had to rewind like four times to properly record it.

But it was worth it because it makes me laugh so much. Because you watched it four more times. I mean. And then once it was a real, I watched it like 50 more times. The tension though, I'm not going to lie. Like you can cut the tension with a knife in that house. Like it is. Yeah.

Between Portia and Kenya, between Marlowe and Kenya now, like candies and it's just like Latoya and Drew like it's like awkward, but it's a good awkward. Yeah. Like I'm actually enjoying watching it. Yeah. So after we have, after we have Latoya's drunk workout that she makes everyone take shots for. Shamea is the MVP. Shamiya was hustling her little butt to that workout.

She was really going for it. I thought it was interesting. Drew and Portia decided not to do the workout and had a little sit down. Well, Drew couldn't do the workout. Oh, right, right, right. Drew's foot is out of order. Yeah. I think it's interesting how Drew was kind of having this confusion about the group. She's like, wait, wait, wait. So last night everyone was like so upset with Kenya, whatever. And then today we're just like pretending it didn't happen. Like this. feels fake to me. Like, I don't know kind of what the like what the vibe is. Like, who actually likes who?

Like, I don't. And I think that's interesting. It kind of reminds me of Eva a little bit. Like, her energy of like, like, I feel like she, I like Drew's energy, but she hasn't quite like locked in with the group. And I think that actually creates some opportunities.

And we see her bring up with Kenya at this crab crab shack place they're at. about like, what's actually going on here? Like, why are we pretending that nobody's upset anymore? I think that she had a good intention, Drew, but the start of her at that dinner wasn't like she, she couldn't land the plane,

like right where, how she wanted it to come out. But it did turn into a good conversation. I do not like when people just say they're being attacked. Like Kenya is like, I feel like I'm being attacked right now. And Drew was like, what do you? I'm not attacking you.

Like I literally. I'm asking you a question. Like, so I don't, I don't like when you, when people just, like, throw out that word. I think it's, like, kind of aggressive, to be honest, but. I feel the same about that. And a deflection, and a deflection for not answering the question. I feel like attacked. And then also when people claim that they're being bullied on these shows, I feel like that goes hand in hand that it's like, somebody criticizing you for something is not attacking you.

And somebody saying something that you don't like is not automatically bullying. It's called the conversation. Right. It's a conversation. You're on the show. I think I just stuttered. Disagreement. But yeah, I mean, I think Drew kind of has a good point.

I do think Kenya kind of is, again, getting in her own way when she's like, look, I apologized earlier. If you don't think, and it's like nobody at this table feels like they got a real meaningful apology from you. So at that point, it's. like that's on you. It doesn't matter if the words I apologize came out of your mouth. If nobody that you were speaking to felt like they received an apology, that's,

that's not their problem. And I'm sorry, I got triggered when Kenya goes, I'll wait when everyone was on their phones because that was middle school. Oh my God. Oh, my God. You're in middle school social studies. Oh, my God. Your teacher would be like, I'll wait.

And like she said that. And I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God. all the women were like, well, Tanya was ordering appetizers. Just like, honestly, we've seen her hungry before and like good for her. She's like, and Porsche, this is the part I was talking about.

Oh my God. When she was like, I'll wait for Porsche. She didn't even blink when she goes, no, you can keep going. I'm just, I can hear. I can do. I was like, oh my God, she doesn't get, Porsche doesn't give a fuck what you are saying.

But, well, yeah. I think because when you look at the whole group, Portia and Kenya are the two people that kind of have the least relationship, I would say. Like, they're not friends. They're not trying to be friends. Honestly, at this point, I don't even think they really have that much beef with each other. They're just like, aren't friends. Yeah.

And so for Kenya to kind of be, like, demanding Porsche's attention, Porsche's like, I don't, like, I don't care. Like, this, it affects people like Drew and Candy and even Marlowe more because they, actually feel like they are invested in like trying to have a good relationship with Kenya, whereas like Porsche's like, I don't give a fuck. Like keep talking. Like I'm not like leaving the table because I don't want to hear you. I just am like scrolling on my phone because to be honest, I'm kind of bored. I really appreciate though.

Portia like I always think about this. Like I compare her to her first season on on Atlanta and like she was young and like wild and she still is, but she has become, I can't even put into words, like, such like an influence, because people now come to her as, like, the person to talk to, like, what you were saying before, like, Drew felt comfortable talking to her. Right. Portia, like, can evolve into any conversation that anyone's talking to. And I don't know. I just, like, I love Portia. I love Portia. I love Porsche so much. I love Porsche, too. And I think that is a good segue into talking about

I think the best part of this episode which was seeing the women sit down at the house and watch live on TV the grand jury findings from the Brianna Taylor case and that was just so it was so emotional

I wasn't watching it live on TV when it happened but I remember that day and like getting the news and seeing these women who I mean they obviously as black women have very personal experiences with racism and, you know, racial inequality in America. And I thought hearing them speak about that and watching them, you know, experience that disappointment of the system, letting them down once again. It was so emotional. I was crying.

I really applaud them for sharing that with us. And also, I'm really glad that the producers and editors left that scene in the episode because I think it really, it's important to see like they're out on this trip. Like they're obviously, you know, getting drunk, having a good time. It's housewives. That's what they do. But they're not detached from reality because this is something that they can't just like turn on and off in their lives. Yeah. I thought that scene was that was very powerful. That's the word I like even while watching it. That's the word I really chose for this. Like it was very powerful and raw to watch. And those were real emotions and real feelings that they had. And I, I, I can't really feel what they're feeling, which is also a

problem in itself. And that's why it was so powerful watching this. And I did like when Portia said, well, I didn't like it. I just understood when Portia said, like she, when they got the verdict that she feels that she's here on borrowed time. She's like, why? the system doesn't like do anything for us. And I was like, that's just like something that's very serious and emotional. And afterwards, again,

Portia, not even thinking twice, her, her instant reaction was, we just have to keep going and put more pressure on them and be, and keep doing what we're doing. Like she wasn't, she was taken back for just a minute.

And then she was like, I'm going to keep doing what I have been doing. Yeah, and it's, I mean, like we were talking about a few minutes ago, kind of watching Portia come into her own in terms of like the group dynamic on the show and stuff, but also just as, you know, of full person who is super invested in these issues that are so important. And it, I mean, truly her journey on Housewives. I was watching recently part of the episode where she and Kenya have that like Miss America, Miss USA, fight like outside that charity event.

And it's like, it's, it is crazy that we have watched from that to this. Like, it, it just, it's like night and day and, you know. Well, because Portia is now realizing what the real issues are in the world. And she's standing up for those as opposed to just wasting time fighting with Kenya about, you know, irrelevant things. Yeah. So props to the Atlanta ladies and the editors and stuff, because that was just a really great powerful moment.

And I don't think if this had happened a few years ago, five years ago, I don't know that we would have seen that on a housewives show. And I'm glad that we've come to a point where it would have been an edited out scene. Yeah. Or like it just wouldn't the, I mean, the whole vibe of the season, you know, they started the season talking about Black Lives Matter. They showed Porsche protesting. And I think I think we're just in a different place now where we understand that,

a lot of people understand the importance of including that. And I just don't know, you know, from a standpoint of like the network, the producers, the whatever, like a few years ago, I don't know if that would have kind of found its way into the season in the same way. And I'm glad it did. So, you know, more work to do, but really happy to see that. Let's talk about below deck. Elizabeth, seeing her reaction to getting fired again.

still just like made me laugh because it's like, oh, what? It was a little, it was dramatic, but at the same time, like, like we said last week, she really didn't see it coming. So she really was like taken aback. And the part though, or it continued of her chasing Francesca through the boat was not a good look for Elizabeth. Like she was like, please, can you talk to Captain Lee? And that part, I was like, no, like Captain Lee was there when you got fired. like he already knows about it.

And she was like, Francesca, please. Yeah. Can we work it out? Like all of this. And Francesca, though, was like, you've had a lot of opportunities. You've had a lot of chances,

which I agree. But at the same time, I'm going to go back and say, but they could have been done differently. Because Francesca, I feel like at that point didn't even give Elizabeth a warning. I thought about that.

The girl never got a warning, like a verbal warning, being like, this is your last chance. I feel like it was always in, Francesca's like confessionals or something or to other people, but I don't, I don't think she ever said to Elizabeth, like you have one more shot. I don't think that happened. I think, okay, I think with the, I feel like with the guest cabin thing, at one point, Francesca was like if this happens again, but then it didn't end up happening again. It just was like two days later. Something else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the kind of thing where I don't know, I think you could.

pick, you can pick apart the way in which it happened, but I don't understand how you could watch the season and not think that Elizabeth is like worthy of getting fired from that job. I, I don't know. It's, it is funny and like, kind of just ironic that they waited so long to fire her. And then it ended up being the end of the season anyway. So she didn't even miss a single charter. It's like, damn, if they had waited one more day to fire her. right it wouldn't have happened so they had planned Elizabeth's birthday for that dinner when they went out that night so she had gotten fired they went out that night and this cake gate we shall call it dinner's over and the waitress comes with a full sheet cake and sparklers on top and they were the whole table knew right away they're like oh my god oh my god like bugging out

but then we find out Rachel's the one that ordered the cake but Rachel also claims she canceled the cake. So she doesn't know there's a little bit of a mix up how this cake still arrived. So the whole table is like eating it and cutting it and sharing and celebrating. And Rachel takes a little dive into Rachel land. No, I agreed with her to an extent. She thought it was very distasteful, very not appropriate that they were cheering and laughing about Elizabeth leaving. Rachel, we know, has been friends with her, had her back, etc.

but yeah I think it was kind of like confounding like one thing on top of the other because it was like Rachel like I do agree that the the way they were the way they were going about eating the cake was like a little you know a little distasteful not the most considerate but at the same time Rachel was also pissed at Francesca and so it was kind of like I think her reaction was a little bit out of proportion, but I do understand where the general feeling behind it was. But it's like, that's not just on Francesca. Like, everyone was doing it.

And then, you know, I think I get that Rachel was annoyed about Elizabeth getting fired, but it's like, your issues with Francesca are separate from Elizabeth being bad at her job. Right. She, it was so awkward, too. Like, she went into Captain Lee the next day. And the thing,

I don't like about this. Oh, that was weird. That rubbed me the wrong way. When you go on, when you want to have a private conversation, it's still on the walkie-talkies, which I never understand because it's like if I want to go talk to Captain Lee, like I want to, I don't want everyone to know that I'm going to talk to Captain Lee. It's like a private conversation. So after Rachel's meltdown like the next day, she asks over the loudspeaker if he has a minute.

So now everyone's like, oh, it's about the cake. It's about the cake. And Francesca's like, now what is she going to talk to Captain Lee about? And this conversation they had was just so awkward because she didn't have anything to talk to about Captain Lee. It's like, okay, so you're going to be like, Rachel and I, or Francesca and I are having communication problems. Captain Lee's not going to be like, okay, fuck Francesca. She sucks. I think she needed a minute to vent.

And that's what I think it ended up being. But she went in with no like direction of what she wanted the end conversation to be. She was like emotional. At this point, it's like she doesn't, you know, she doesn't have any information that's going to lead to, like, Francesca getting disciplined or anything. Captain Lee, at the end of this conversation, is never going to give her anything more than, like, figure it out, okay? Like, go, go figure it out. Like, he doesn't want to deal with this. And I appreciate that Francesca and Rachel had a little, a little heart-to-heart come to Jesus moment because it's like,

they don't have like their problems are not that deep like they dislike each other's communication styles I guess but it's like nothing has happened here that is that you know overwhelmingly bad like just do like you know try your best to get on the same page and that's it like nobody has like wronged anyone else you just aren't really seeing eye to eye name me another charter where this chief stew and chef didn't get like got along for the entire season like it just doesn't happen there's there's bumps in the road like they have problems with every with everything the other one does because they there's a hierarchy it's just so rachel has kind of like invented in her mind that francesca is way worse than she is and it's like you guys have had some communication slip-ups maybe francesca isn't always like

as on top of it as she like thinks she is but nobody here is like dropping the ball so hard. No, I actually think all these charters went pretty smoothly from a viewer's perspective. I agree. I mean, they talk at the end about how the first charter was kind of a disaster from the deck crew standpoint, but like nobody was, you know, this season was not a particularly bumpy season. I mean, Rachel pretty much knocked it out of the park every time with the food. There were like some obvious little hiccups on service. Elizabeth, you know, was kind of absent. But it wasn't, yeah, like there was no, I mean, there's a reason that nobody got fired. Well, I guess Shane, I guess Shane got fired.

Yeah, but never mind. We don't remember. There's a reason that this season was like generally pretty chill in terms of cast turnover because there weren't that big of issues. And, you know, Captain Lee says it's not a time to celebrate when the season gets cut short. But I don't, I mean, I would have been having champagne. Well, he gets the news and everything with him is so dramatic. It's like hilarious. And he lets everyone know that to the last because coronavirus is getting significantly worse around the world.

So they get notified that the last two charters get canceled, which by the way, the first thing I thought of watching it, which means if I was working it, I'd think even more were my tips. I'd be like, yes, I was wondering that. I was like, okay, so that's probably like. probably like $3,000 that they're not going to get. Or maybe more, to be honest, if like, you know, they get more than $1,500 as a tip if it's a good charter. But that's like their money that they're depending on. And so I do wonder if that happens, if they just like go scratch or if they like get compensated in some way. So they, they've, I've heard them talk about this.

They get paid. Like they get. Of course. Yeah. And then the tip is on top of that. I would imagine they probably get their salary through the end of the season and then just don't get the tip money. Yeah, but you kind of, you know, like in a service industry, you kind of do like bank on your tips, though, because they are great. Right.

I mean, but whatever, maybe to go spend six months at home, it's not so bad because they're not going out and, you know, getting bottle service every day. Here's hoping. I'm curious to see this reunion next week. I have intel that one person doesn't show up to the reunion. But I think it should still be okay. I don't know. Why have we not even seen a commercial for? I think because they filmed it just they filmed it like a week or two ago,

but it's like a watch what happens live reunion situation. So it's not kind of the same like wait as like a housewives reunion. Yeah. I mean, I'm interested to see franchise. Teska and Elizabeth kind of go at it. I guess the James and Elizabeth thing could be interesting. I don't really feel like there are that many loose ends here. Like the relationships are pretty cut and dry.

There wasn't any like gigantic scandal this season. So it's, I mean, I think it's a one part reunion. Like whatever. It'll be nice to wrap it up. That's definitely all it needs to be. But I do want to mention too that Eddie, who has really, really grown on me, such a little sweetheart. He got promoted and it got really emotional.

And then he leaves. he Captain Lee says, which got me like emotional that, which is the best compliment I think anyone could get from a parent is that he would want his son to be like Eddie if he were, you know, had lived, have still been here. And I think that hearing that if Eddie, Eddie hearing that is like the nicest thing you could hear from like, it's so kind. And it was very sweet. Such a great moment. Eddie was on watch. happens live last night and he was he was talking about how much that meant to him so um that was a nice way to end this season um overall not I don't think it was the best season of below deck I don't think

it was the worst um I'll be curious to see I have a question for you yeah what so there was a poll on Instagram that you did where specifically you asked if you we'd want Francesca back and what was the end goal for that like does the majority of the people want her back or don't want her back as chiefs too? Let me check. It was like, I think fairly evenly split, but I think the nose were winning. As if we're the ones making the decision. Like whatever that answers.

Currently, with two hours left on the Instagram story poll, we are at 55% no, 45%. Yes. So most people, a majority of people don't want her back next season. Yeah, but it is pretty even. Like, you know, it's not like... The thing with Francesca is that I don't think she's like incredible. Like, I definitely don't think she's like a Kate or Hannah in terms of, you know, their kind of star quality. But I don't think she was...

I don't think she was like bad on the show. No, no, no, no. And I'm a little... For me, the only thing is we've had so much turnover across the below deck franchise. You know, sailing other than Captain Glenn, sailing has a... complete new cast for season two. We obviously lost Hannah. We lost Kate.

And I mean, there's obviously more turnover than just that. But specifically with the Chief's dues, it's like, you know, it would be nice to have some consistency, but we'll see. We'll see, we'll see. We will be back on Thursday with another episode. Thank you so much for listening. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe. Follow us on Instagram at Bravo by Betches and just be cool.

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