Mention It All - The Best Housewife Tipper, Porsha's New Chapter, & Slaying Drag Race AND Traitors Ft. Monét X Change

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

On this week’s Tuesday episode, Dylan is joined by Drag Race winner & Traitors star Monét X Change for a hilarious, unfiltered chat that bounces from Housewives to competition shows to life on the road. Monét tells the story of a housewife tipping her over $1K at a drag show, breaks down what it was really like filming The Traitors, and explains why she thinks the show is called Traitors for a reason (NOT the Faithfuls). Plus, she talks Porsha Williams’ full evolution, why RHOA will always be THAT franchise, and what Drag Race should do next to keep things fresh. Go to the BravoByBetches YouTube page to watch full length episodes every Tuesday & Friday: Youtube.com/@BravoByBetches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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See Home Depot.com slash price match for details. have like favorite places that you go on tour that you've been back to a bunch now? Yes, I love Portland. Great dick in Portland. Okay. I basically like the cities they have good dick and them. Okay. Basically.

They have the good dick and the good cheeseburger. It's like the tour manager is like, okay, we got to go to these markets. You're like, mm-mm. Rio de Janeiro, please. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Mention at All podcast. I am so excited to be joined today by an iconic guest. You know Monet exchange from Dres.

drag race, from traders, from this, that, and the other thing. And I'm excited to get into it. Hello, Monet. Hello. I thought we were recording all that time before. We had such good conversation already. You know, it could roll it. They can chop it up.

From the top. It's like if you said anything you didn't want, then we wouldn't use it. But, you know, you never know. You know, any time I go into a building, I just assume from the, from, for the time I walk into the door, I'm being recorded. Well, we're used to having the housewives in here. And sometimes, you know, they'll be talking like the real shit. And then they're like, oh, sorry, we're not.

Baggy. You know, I just met Erica Jane again for the first. Lisa Rina had a thing in her home for her book launching. And Erica Jane was there. And I was like, Erica, I don't know if you remember me. She was like, I know you from Traders. I was like, no, no, no, bitch. We met before.

She was like, when? She was like, one night I was doing before Drag Race. I was doing my show at Industry Bar. Yes. And she walked in, this was like 2015, 2016. And she walked in with some girlfriends. And Erica Jane came on that stage. I made it.

She tipped me over $1,000. She just was just every, every number, 100. Because this was in the days when Erica was rolling in it. Girl. And I was like, girl, come back every week. I pay my rent on time that month. At industry too, I feel like you're like, okay, like we got it, you know, a dollar, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But she made it rain. I love it. Because I feel like industry is where the tourists go who don't know that they are supposed to tip a queen. And so it's like. They're sitting down watching like it's golf. This is not golf, girl. This is a drag show. Engage, laugh, smile,

tip. You know, it's, I, it's fun to think about those times now when before drag race and everything, to think of you just like hosting an industry on a random night. What? A random night,

honey. It was the It Night. I was Tuesday night. That was bad drag queens on Tuesday night. And I used to pack industry out. You hear me? And then they handed it to, I think Holly Box Springs and then she tanked the show and she got fired.

So. Ooh. Do you ever miss those days when you were like really having to hustle to like to make it happen for yourself? You know, I do kind of miss those days because there is, to me, there is nothing like the grit and the professionalism that it taught me to be a New York City working queen, right? Yes. Like going from doing three, three bars, going from literally on Sundays, I would go from intemeto brunch, go home, take off the bottom half of my face, take a little nap, go down to hardware for my 10 o'clock show with Ms. Cracker, then go do the monster at 1 a.m. Look Queen. So, like, and that taught me just to work hard. Like, I think a lot of these new girls, they come and they're these bedroom queens, and they pop out their bedroom, talking about my booking fees 150.

where? Why are I paying you $150? How do you haven't even hustled? You haven't grinded to earn that 150? I feel like when you, when you came on drag race for the first time, it felt like it was at sort of a little bit of a turning point where a lot of the people that were coming on the show had before were these like career queens who had really worked and been in the industry. And then it was like, then it was people who had watched drag race and said, oh, I want to do that.

Yeah. How can I get there? Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's a, I mean, it's. it's so many talented people and, you know, in every era, but it's, yeah, it's definitely changed. Yeah, I think so, too. Like, back then, you know, like, in my, like my era, you know, you had, you know,

performance, peppermint and you had Bob, Bianca, like, people who were, like, work in New York and also in cities around the country. Yeah. Asia O'Hara used to do the Rose Room. That was her gig. Like, a lot of queens worked in, there was steeped in Nightlife and Drag. And now you're seeing queens who were inspired by that. I think the next evolution of the show is they need to bring in the good.

good old, like the Mimi Marx, the Jackie Beats of Cherry Vine. Give us like the queens who were before the ones that were the Golden Era Drag Race. And like, give us those because I want to see that. I want to see how Candace Cain is going to react to an acting challenge. I want to see. It will be revolutionary. It'll be amazing. These 22-year-olds aren't going to know what hit them.

Yeah, yeah, it's really, it'll be iconic. It'll be fierce. I mean, it's been such an amazing, you know, evolution to watch over the last you know, many years now of drag race and how much it's become central in culture. And I mean, seeing you on traders earlier this year, you and Bob have done it now. And I feel like that's just like another, another thing to add to the pyramid of like, y'all can do anything. Yeah, you know, I love being on television. I love hearing myself talk. I think I have interesting things to say. I think I'm a fun person to be on TV. And, you know, I think some people, like a lot of people,

because traders, they're doing the civilian season now. Yes. And they're like, you know, I do shows and sometimes I do a Q&A or advice at the end of the show like for 10-15 minutes people always like I've auditioned for traders like what advice do you have and my advice is always when you go on these shows I think it was the best thing that Bob's the the only good thing he's ever said to me was when I went to season 10 I was like okay girl like give me advice the only advice I have to you to be yourself he's like don't go on TV trying to do this try to be that just be you and that's going to be more than enough and I think that's why I work on television that I'm not trying to go on

TV and be the villain or be the bad guy or be the funny girl or be this I'm just going on stage to be on stage on TV to be Monet and and I think that who you are will always shine through if you go on TV to try to be something you're not the audience we when we watch TV we can smell that shit a mile away and we reject it so I just like to go on TV and be myself and for the good bad and ugly right sometimes it's worked out for me sometimes it has it and you know you'd love the chips fall where they may what was it I mean you've done so many things in the last you know 10 years but what was it like doing traders, which you've done

competition, obviously, in the drag space a lot, but going on to a show where you're competing in a completely different way. It's not about your your drag talent or what you're bringing to that table. It's about doing missions and social strategy and all that. What was that like kind of shifting

the mental gear a little bit? You know, I love those kind of strategy games. I play strategy games at the house. I play strategy games with my fiance at home. Like him, not putting the dishwasher, put him on and pulling it. I'm doing mental gymnastics there trying to convince him to do that in a way that's authentic

to him. So I'm always strategizing throughout life. So I think when I got the chance to go on traitors, I was so excited to like do it for real because I love Survivor. I love Big Brother. I was a fan of Trader since season one. Yeah. I watched it when it was back in three seasons like in real time.

So I love, love the show. So it was like a no brain. As soon as they got the call, I was like, yes. And, you know, I wanted to be a droider. But Alan Cummings made me a fateful. And I think he did himself in the franchise of the service because the world deserves to see Monet Exchange to play in traitors as a traitor. Also, Candace said, she said this in an interview and I was like,

that is so right. She was like, the show is called traitors. It's not called fatefuls. What's going on there to be a fateful? He was like, traitors are they stars? I'm like, yeah, that's what I want to be. I want to be a star in the show. I think it's so strange when somebody goes on there and they're like,

oh, I just don't think I could be a traitor. It would be stressful. And like, why are you there? Then why are you there, go out and make some cookies with your grandchildren or something, Dorinda? Like, no, like, come play the game of Traders. It's so fun. It's so fun.

And I know, I mean, you're a reality TV fan watching Housewives, things like that. Were you excited to find out who you were going to be doing it with? Oh, yeah, I was super excited about the cast. I mean, the number one person I was excited for was Portia Williams. Yes. I am obsessed with Portia. Number one, I just wanted to see her ass in real life, and it did not disappoint. Portia would walk through the door.

I was taking notes. I mean, that ass, the wind that she creates by her ass of moving through that gas was just, it's magnificent. She has her own breeze that follows her. So I was excited to me, Portia. I was excited to meet Natalie Anderson because I'm a big fan of Survivor. Yeah. And who else was excited when I saw them, IRL? Like, no shade, I'd never seen, I never watched Potomac.

Yeah. So I didn't really know about Canada. this, love her now, and Lisa, I, like, I knew about Lisa on socials, but I never watched Beverly Hills either. I only watched Atlanta. Right. So I would have been excited to see, like, anyone from Atlanta, Forcia, Nini, oh, God, if Nita was a neck assail.

I feel like every year people are like, so I heard a rumor that Nini might be, it's like, I don't think. But here's the thing, though. I think a lot of people, a lot of housewives are deterred from the show because you have to do your own glam. People don't realize that. Yes. You have to do your own glam.

And like, Portia was like, yeah, bitch, I sat my makeup artist down and, like, for two weeks. And he taught me how to, like, beat my face so I could do it because you don't get to, you don't have hair. You don't have makeup. You have to, these women are waking up at the crack of dawn and doing their own gland themselves. Well, I had respect for Maura Higgins that just was like, wigs. Where do it? Wigs. Well, thank you for saying that.

Wigs and hats. Wigs and hats. Because I was watching, I was on threads. And people were like, I can't believe how Moore is able to. style her hair. So, yeah. And she has to give herself

a haircut on television. I'm like, bitch, a hair. It is a wig and a box girl. Morris going like this. Wake up. And putting the next one on.

What do you mean? She's cutting her hair on TV. Like, what? So thank you. So it's longer. It's shorter and then it's longer again. Oh my y'all.

The logic. Where is the intelligent? Open to schools. Please. It is so. I feel like there is still like a corner of America. just doesn't realize like half of the things that exist in our world. They're like, oh, you could just, you can wear with?

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with his like Tom Brown everything was Tom Brown the house for head to tell So I was like I was taking him as my Inspaws like if I want to go into the castle I want to mirror what he did And I'm like take some some pages from his book So I my tiless My tylist

I sound like Mora My tylist My stylist My stylist Taylor O'Rear We were like we got together And we just came together Came up with like 12 looks to have for the show that I was going to do And I was like, I know I wanted to have some tartan in there, but still feel like Monet and I love Valentiaga.

So we just found really dope ways. I'm so sad. There were like four or five offices I really wanted to show off that I didn't get to, including the banquet. But, you know, that's just more excuses for Alan to bring me back for Traders. We need like, like Michelle Visage, watch a pack-in. Oh, that's a good idea. Alan comes to the room. He's like, show me all the clothes.

I mean, some people, we don't want to see what they were packing. Right. We don't need it every week. Yeah, not that every one. Not everybody. What, yeah, no, it was, I was bummed to not get to see you and Portia have a little more time together. No. I feel like we got to get you down to Atlanta and you can, you can hang out with the girls.

Ooh, could I be like a friend of the, what do they call them, a friend of the wise, or whatever the girl called them? Yeah, I love Portia so much. And she's the big old lesbian now. Obsessed. Yes. Portia is eating plus. I'm obsessed with that. It is wild, the evolution we have seen of Miss Portia Williams.

She went for like a preacher's wife. Cordell is not perfect by far. She was a preacher's wife to trying to ride the Underground Railroad to a Duress Day and now a full-blown lesbian. Honestly, Portia is a new, she's one of the newest members inducted into the LGBTIQA plus community. I sent her a welcome packet and she's reading up. She's learning. She's getting on the language and everything. There's going to be a quiz.

She's going to be a quiz at the end of the year. And so I just loved that for her. We were sitting together on the couch at the reunion. I was like, I was like, Portia, are you a lesbian now? She's like, yes. She was like, I love it. I love it. I was like, good, good for you, Porsche.

I love that for her. I do too. Growth. Let me tell you something. I curse the day that my mother gave birth to me and I realize that I like dick, right? I hate that I like dick. I hate that I like that. I wish I was straight just so I could be with women.

That's the only reason I want to be straight. Because being attracted to men and loving men is a, it is the most toxic thing about me. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. But them being a straight man? I know. But if I was a straight man, I would be the gayest straight man ever. You know what I mean? I would be like, uh, uh, I would be like the liberace of the straight.

Like I would be so faggy, but straight. Like I would, you know, and it, my wife would have just have to. This imaginary wife. It would stuff for her, but I mean, would she rather that than, would you? You went with that or some like, bro. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. We can, like, have fun together.

Do you, do you go, like, all the way back with the Atlanta Housewives? Like, what's the, what was the starting point for you? Oh, baby, season one, episode one. Okay. I have watched every single season from season one episode one to current. I think, in my humble opinion, and I know there is a lot online. People like, are like, Atlanta has gone down, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, every season has its ebbs and flows.

It all goes up and now, but I enjoy Atlanta every season. I love all the two. dolls. I'm so fucking happy that Britt E.D. is not coming back. She is a awful toxic person. And so I'm happy she's not coming back. And I can't, I can't wait for this next season. That was, it was such a disappointing way that that worked out where it was like, you pulled, you pulled this big move of getting Kenya out of there and then to just, couldn't back it up for shit. I know. I hope that, do you think that they're going to bring Kenya back? Maybe. Maybe in a year or two. A year or two, right? Because they got Kay Michelle coming on this year.

I know, which I love. So I had Kim Michelle, when I had my talk show Exchange Rate, she's a guest on exchange rate. And she, I'm, she was the sweetest, because sometimes, you know, when I would have the show, sometimes these guests would come in and they were very country and, you know, and I would meet all the guests before in the green room and chat and talk, whatever. And she was just so warm and so lovely, you know, especially I was just some new person. I just, I've just been on Drag Race and don't really, I mean. She was just so lovely and so sweet.

So I'm excited to see on the show. It's always interesting when somebody who's been. kind of the top dog in one space, then it's like, okay, I'll try something new. Yeah. We'll see. And I think she's going to bring her. I love Camichael. I mean, I feel like people sometimes like, I guess fans of any franchise can be really

like negative about what changes, what's happening, you know, is this, is it going to live up? Is the glory days over? And it's like, just enjoy it. Yeah, I say that, but girl, every time Instagram change the format, I'd be pissed off. I'm like, why is the button down here? You know what gets me now is the day. DMs and the feed, you have to swipe through the reels tab. Yes.

And so it's the sound every time. It's awful. I mean, Instagram, they're not going to listen to us. But if you guys open to feedback, we would like to keep things as they are. We do not need to change things every two years. Please, we are. I am in my late mid-30s. Okay, I cannot keep up with the changing pace of social media.

I can't. I need things how they are. It was so funny a couple months ago when the like 2016, photos was trending. Oh, God. And it was like, oh, we were doing squares on Instagram. Yes, squares. With the heavy filter.

It's like, you know, I was a late bloomer to Survivor. I only watched it in the pandemic. Okay. And then, so they had all the seasons on, I think, Netflix or one of the streaming apps. I was back and I was like, oh, let me watch it from the beginning. Baby, I said, uh-uh, we don't watch it from the beginning. Back, that's when it was.

Filmed on a Nokia. Literally. So I found the first season that they filmed in Technicolor. Like, like, like, like. Like the Wizard of Oz. We're starting there. I'm not going back to the Twitter. It is wild to watch some of those shows that don't feel that old, like in life.

And then you're like, oh, this looks like dog shit. I know. What's also to how crazy how we've just adjusted to like what life is. I can't even fathom how they were watching TV. Like, how are people watching that on television? It looks like it's starting like 240P. Like this podcast is in HD. I know.

It looks better than a survivor. Although I will say I would go for if they did like a retro, if Instagram, in the new, in the next update. Okay. If they go back to 2016 Instagram where it was like the blue and I would go for like a retro. I will say I think the adding, the making the carousels 20 photos was a mistake. I agree. It's too much.

Because people are, I don't need all, I don't need all 20. You don't gag next year when we get 40. Then what you're going to do? Just for a whole day just swiping through like, God damn. was ever going to be over. Please no. Did you, how old are you? 30.

Okay, so you, so you didn't survive dial up internet. Yeah, you don't have, yeah, you didn't have that all up internet. Wow. Not really. Wow. Like, I know what it is. You know, but you've heard, I've heard the noise. Girl, you know, you did not know the struggle of going on Napster or Limewire,

downloading your music, and you, like, at 40% through. Right. Like, at 60%, then your sister pick up the phone upstairs. to call her raggedy best friend and then she crashed your whole shit. So now you had to wait two more days to download the song and it finishes downloading and you're like, okay, Aaliyah rocked the boat.

I can finally listen to it. Let me listen to it. And then you two and a half minutes in it and you hear this is AOL music. You're like, now I got a little raggedy ass copy. Like it was a shrug. You couldn't just download something in two seconds and a half it. It was a journey together.

Oh my God. The little like tags in all the illegal songs. Yes. Crazy. Yes, girl. I'm wondering for you, you growing up like 90s,

2000s, what was the first reality show that you remember watching and being into? Oh, okay, first reality show I remember watching was Real World New Orleans. Okay. With the girl from BYU, the girl, she was from

the Mormon girl. Yeah. I think that's the one. I think there was a gay guy on there and I remember being like, oh my God, a gay person on television. Yeah. I will gay person. Uh-huh. But I liked real world because Like, it was like seeing like a gay person living their life on TV. Mm-hmm.

I don't remember who, I don't remember the name with the person, but it was, I think it was a, I think it was a black guy. Danny Roberts. So he wasn't. He's a white guy with like, yes, the white guy with like the spikey hair. Yeah. Uh-huh. Wow. Yeah, I remember Danny on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, like, the first reality reality, real world, it's, it's crazy.

Real world those old seats It's crazy because they really just like Okay, live in a house Yeah, like I'm troubled dude What was the premise just living? There wasn't really what They were there for like months too I think like it was a long time

Did they have like a job they had to do? I think they would work Well you remember like Jersey Shore In the original seasons they were working at the t-shirt shop How they had a T-shirt shop? I feel like now it's like we can't we can't pretend these people have a job Yeah Also I can't have the Jersey Shore

They still do seasons Yeah, they just announced they're doing like a last season. What the fuck are we watching them do now? What's crazy though is with Housewives, these shows have been on for 10, 20 years, but new people come and people leave. Jersey Short, it's the same cast. Like, I'm like, I haven't watched in years. I've watched it years.

I didn't even know that they had some new girls. There was some, like, Angelina. Angelina, she's like a new one. I was like, when did she come into the picture? So I think I watched like the first two, maybe. three seasons and then I fell off. It stressed me out. Yeah.

Then it tried to do, remember Flora Bama? The MTV tried to do Flora Bama, which I don't think that was successful at all. I think there was something racist happened on... Are you shocked? In Flora Bama. Am I shocked?

No. It wasn't like the fucking panhandle of Florida. Nothing good happens in the Panhandle of Florida. Nothing good can come from that. I did. One of my first gigs I ever did was before I got a drag race, this club, a splash bar in...

Yeah. in Panama City Beach. They brought me down before Draggers. It flew me down. It was my first, like, pay gig ever. And I was like, oh, wow. This is how they, this how they lived down here. This is a very interesting place.

Yeah. And now, and now do we go there on tour? You know, I have not been back. Okay. Next tour. Next tour. Not this one, but the next one. Maybe I'll go back to Florida.

Alabama. You know, there's always, there's always time. That'll make, when you're, when you're, when you're doing like the 100 city tour. Yes. That'll make the list. Yes, 100 city tour. When I'm in my era's era, in my era's era.

So you were like real world, Atlanta. I know you were like top model. Top model. Okay. I'm going to say something controversial. I know when we are analyzing top model with a 2026 lens, we can look back and be like, that was awful. I cannot believe they did that to those girls.

But when a young, what top model was to, 2001. When 11-year-old in the closet, Faggedy Kevin Burton, it came on an exchange, was after I finished my math homework, and I was watching Tom Model in real time

and seeing these fierce women being models and posing and looking at the photo shoots and seeing Mr. Jay and his fierce platinum hair and Mr. Jay and her sickening legs and her, like, strutting out of the runway, I was living my best, life. Like, I felt like, like, I don't think that fashion was for me because I never been

like a fashion girl. But, I mean, as a little gay boy, we love that shit. Like, I was living for it. I know what you mean because I think it was less about the, less about the world of fashion and like modeling. And it was more about feeling like you were being exposed to like this like essence of fabulousness. Yeah, I agree.

That wasn't in every other. Yeah. Survivor didn't have it. American Idol didn't have it. Exactly. It was something, a sensibility. It really was. And were they doing some crazy shit with those girls?

Absolutely. Yes. Absolutely. We can all acknowledge that. But being a little queer kid watching it, I was living. And very theatrical. Totally. The way that Tyra, you know, the clip that always goes around of her, like,

pretending to faint. And they goes like, Tyra, no! Tyra is so camp. You just see her this year doing Santa Smize? Yeah. Yes. With that yellow wig. And the ice cream.

And the ice cream. The ice cream. Tara's always been one for the theatrics and she was not devoid of them on top model. It was, it was. Did you watch the documentary? Not the one that's on E, the one that was on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard because when you're looking back at something 20 years later, it is really easy to say like, okay, that's problematic.

That's problematic. But yeah, in the moment, it worked for a reason. I agree. And just like we look back at like how fucking awful all these, uh, interviewers and stuff were to Lindsay and Brittany and we can look back at, but in, in real time, everyone was, Whitney Houston. Like in real time, we all were like, I mean, I was what? That was what? 17, 18 when the whole 2008 Brittany happened.

So like we all in real time were like, that's crazy. She's blah, blah, blah. But now we look back and we're like, we were all awful to her. And this woman was just trying to live her life. and with the crazy microscope of what celebrity was. I mean, celebrity is still crazy now, but back then it was like crazy. Paparazzi was in your pussy, just taking pictures. Like, paparazzi was like in these people, you know what I mean?

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like do you feel like from the other side you have different perspective on, I don't know, like how the sausage gets made? Ooh, yeah, like being on these shows and like being like, especially when I did, I did The Survivor Influencer Island. Yes. They brought eight of us down there.

And, you know, seeing, like, how robust it is behind a camera, it is crazy. Like, to give you, like, a thing, like, drag race films with, I think there are six cameras in the room. Mm-hmm. Right. Rupal, a couple of producers, sound lighting, and six cameras, right? Survivor, minimum, I should have asked a question, but I think minimum, you were looking at it. at like on this is a this is like a lower end I would say you have about 20 cameras and you have like three drones and you have like three jibs and you have like all it's like it's like you're

looking at like whoa like this is like a wall of just like yeah yeah so seeing how all that happens and they know they let us watch the filming of the first day of season 49 and we're like seeing like how like the mathematics of like planning yeah of moving the contestants around and filming this challenge and all that. It's just such a, it's so wild to see it get made. You're like, oh, wow. And I think the fact that watching the show from home, they're so meticulous that you never see any of that.

And you don't think about it. Whereas, you know, on a lot of shows, like, in drag race, it's like, if you saw a camera in the work room, you're like, yeah, it's not, it's not going to take me out of it. Yeah, exactly. But on Survivor, it's like, no, they, the attention to detail of, like, keeping that fantasy alive that they're, like, alone on the island. It's kind of crazy. It really is crazy.

It's crazy. It really, because, yeah, you watch the show. You feel like, yeah, they're alone on an island. No, there's like 19 cameras on them. So now you're watching season 50 and you're like, oh, there's six people watching him shit his pants. That was crazy. I'm like, what happened there? Was it a sneeze that went awry?

Was it, like, how? They ate some bad coconut. To shit your pants on television is crazy. That's tough. It's tough. How do you recover? He's so charming, though, that I'm like, we, you know, I get it, but I'm like, I would have to, I would drown myself. Having done traders, having done the survivor influencer experience, would you do a real season of

survivor? Oh, I totally would. I would absolutely do a real season of survivor. I think the competitive nature of it is very appealing to me. And I think that, yeah, I just, I want to do it more so to prove to myself than I can. And I think that I can, you know, the influencer island was only 48 hours. but in that we like it was a real thing like they didn't skimp out on any of the survivor of it all like we really they gave us a what they give the actual contestants they get like a crash course of like a few hours to learn how to like weave palm fronds and make fire and stuff like that and we had that were we successful at it no but and we had this crazy thunderstorm that they hadn't had in years it rained on us for from like three o'clock in the afternoon to like five o'clock in the morning and I was like oh they're gonna like get us like little raincoats or something no no no they left us on the beach that they left us on the beach beach to be wet and cold and shivering for all those hours.

And I'm like, that's just a dip into what the actual thing is. And I think, I think I could really do it. The downtime is what would actually get me, though. That's what I always think about. I'm like, we watch one hour a week that's edited together. You're only spending, you know, 10 minutes of time with each tribe. And I'm like, oh, what do you do? Hours ago.

Hours are you sitting on. Kind of bring a Kind of a Kind of. And you don't have a phone or anything. So, like, your concept of time, you kind of lose it because you don't really, like, all you have to go by is the sunrise and sunset. And I'm not no optometrists. That's the real thing. I don't know how to study the sun going now.

So I don't know what fucking time it is. I know the sunsets. I'm like, is that? I mean, when the sun sets in winter in L.A., it's fucking 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Right. And I have no idea. So you just don't know.

Until you see that boat coming, that's when you know there's action. Other than that, you're just sitting on this hot, sweaty beach with sand in places you never knew it could go. Okay. Well, maybe Survivor for you in a year or two, but right now you're on tour. Yeah. High heels, bad knees.

High heels, bad knees, girl. What are you loving about this tour? I'm loving about this tour is this is like my first, like, real tour doing material I've really worked on. So I did a special years ago. But, you know, I did in a very backwards way. I did an hour. I wrote, I wrote down an hour, performed it once that recorded a special. Which is not the way to do stand-up comedy.

Right. That is the most backwards where you can do stand-up comedy. Comedians normally work on material for years. Yeah. You've got five minutes here, five minutes there. Yeah. And then you work the material and you find you things. You massage and you get new stuff.

So I've been able to do this. I've been doing this material for about a year and a half now. And it feels really good. It truly is some of the funniest shit I've come up with. And I'm just really proud of it because I've been doing a stand-up comedy now for four and a half years now. And four years now. And so it just feels really good.

I love stand-up. And it's just a way to just to be on stage and just having the trust of the audience. Because, you know, I think, you know, they have a lot of girls trying to come out here and do stand-up. Some of the draggers girls. And I think they try to paint us with all with the same brush. I'm like, no, baby, I'm true to this. I am really like about it. I'm doing like time and faces spots in New York.

And I'm like really working material. I'm not just coming out here and saying a tongue pop and laugh. No, I'm like, I have material to, to. Right. But it's not like, let's get this roast to cook in. Yeah, what I mean? It's not like, I'm like, it's real like comedy. I'm really excited about.

I think that's, yeah, I think that's a good point. Because when you come off a show like Drag Race, there's so many different lanes and some people, music, dancing, you know, performing, active. There's so many different things. And to really figure out, like, no, this is something I want to, like, really do. Yeah, totally. And then like, when I, you know, when I have, when I work with other comedians and, or like, I do these weekends. at these comedy clubs and then the owner or the manager

and the manager comes like you're really fucking good I'm like motherfucker what did you expect? What do you what what what do you think going to happen? Yeah. I'm like oh oh because you had oh okay yeah yeah I'm not that babe I'm actually out of here

to try to do this comedy thing for real and because also I don't want to bastardize stand-up comedy stand-of comedy is such it's a dope art form there are so many there are millions of fandom comics, some who really do the thing of like, especially like, people like my friend Mateo Lane, right? Mateo, yeah, who did comedy, like, he's very, he's a, he's a purist

in that way, and he's like, you got to like do the seller and the this and that and do seven stand-of things a night and work the material, like, so when I know I have friends like him and Nicole Byer and Sashire and Bob who like are really steeped in comedy, I don't, I would never want to come behind those fierce friends and half-ass comedy. I'm doing it for real. I'm really proud of it. Well, everybody should go see. Absolutely. Doing it for real. Y'all.

Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. It's so fun. Of course. Thanks everyone for watching. Don't forget to rate, review, subscribe. And until next time, be cool. Don't be all like uncool.

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